TLMG's Jungle Warfare Log

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  1. Day 21


    I think the biggest effect I am noticing thus far from Jungle Warfare is strength, and a heightened alpha male attitude, more so than the usual for me.

    As I said last week I have revamped my workout to be a DC style of training. I'm not using pure DC, as the guys in Ironman Magazine had some nifty ideas to tweak Dante's concept, so I'm employing some of those little techniques in there as well. I figure that I'm on a product that enhances my natural test levels so recovery will be a bit quicker than normal. For example, Here's a sample of today's workout.

    Chest, Shoulders, Triceps, Back (Thickness, Width).

    Chest:

    Decline Hammer Strength: 480lbs for 8 reps, 3, 2, 2 Rest/Pause.
    I incorporated a second set whereby I did normal reps for 10 reps, but finished the set with 5 X-reps (as talked about in Ironman Magazine).

    A month ago I was struggling to get 6 reps with 20lbs LESS than this.

    Delts:

    Military Press: 205lbs for 10 reps, 3, 2, 2. Rest/Pause
    Second Set was lighter with 155lbs. However, rather than doing normal reps, I would "double dip" in the sweet spot and do 2 partials at the bottom of the movement before moving the weight all the way back up to the top.

    Triceps:

    Cable Pushdowns (Elbows flared Jay Cutler Style): 300lbs for 8 reps, 4, 3, 3.
    The second set was lighter incorporating the same "double dipping" in the sweet spot of the movement to recruit more fibers. It's like a 1 1/2 rep, but with 2 half reps between a single full rep.

    Back Thickness

    Machine Rows: 150lbs rest/Pause style...not that much, but to give you an idea a couple months ago I was struggling with 100lbs on this.

    Back Width

    Lat Pulldowns: 210lbs 6, 3, 3, 2 rest/pause.


    No noticeable side effects thus far. My libido is still very high and there is more volume to my ejaculate. The pumps are still VERY nice and last all day. I'm kind of sort of noticing some leaning out effects but not a whole lot at this point. I'm only 3 weeks in and results are coming slowly but surely. Like I said above, I'm noticing a heightened alpha male attitude, and I'm a bit more "moody" at times as I've upped the dosage from 3 to 4 caps. Tomorrow I will weigh myself. I sent some pics to ALRI so hopefully Author will take a look at them and let us know about body size and dosing soon, along with prior androgen use.

    Till tomorrow, peace out everyone

  2. Day 22


    I weighed myself this morning....up 2lbs. I now weigh 232lbs. This was done first thing upone waking in the morning. Now that seems to be a bit more consistent with the Jungle Warfare writeup!! My goal for next week is 234lbs.

    So...

    Day 1: 220lbs
    Day 10: 230lbs (primarily due to refeeding after a cut...although some was muscle mass gained.)
    Day 22: 232lbs
    Day 29:...???

    I'm up 12lbs in body weight, and my strength and libido are way up as well. 2 thumbs up so far. I bet I can gain an average of 2lbs a week.

    Daily caloric intake will be just above 4000 kcals.
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  3. Day 23


    D/C day of Quads, Hammies, traps, Biceps and Forearms...(I put calves in after cardio).

    For a "non-hormonal" product this stuff sure gives some wicked strength gains. Today I loaded up three 45lb plates on a Hammer Strength Preacher Curl and did a rest pause set of a total of 12 reps. I hit 6 reps before hitting failure...then went into my rest/pause reps. All of my lifts are definitely going up.

    I decided to add in a rest/pause set of barbell shrugs, followed by another just straight set to failure simply because big traps just look powerful. I also have stuck to not using any wrist straps while shrugging to build up my forearms and grip. Using wrist straps for all those years was a huge mistake. My motto now is if I can't hold onto it, I ain't liftin' it. Needless to say that when I started Jungle Warfare I could barely shrug 250lbs for 10 reps without wrist straps (365lbs with straps). Now I'm shrugging 315lbs without those damn straps and holding that bar for 10 full reps. So I'm almost up to where I was with straps.

    Tomorrow will be 30 minutes of cardio, followed by abs and calves. Damn I can't wait to hit the weights again on friday. The biggest thing, like I've said, is that I'm noticing some fantastic strength gains from the Jungle Warfare and it gets me all revved up to get in there and tear it up. I love walkin' out of the gym knowing that I've smashed all my prior records.

    No increase in acne to report. No oily skin. I still have that very heightened "alpha-male" feeling and over all I'm just in a good mood. I have however noticed that irritants are intensified just a wee bit!! Some kid working at the movie theatre tried telling me I couldn't bring my home made weight gainer shake into the movies with me yesterday. LOL!! Needless to say he did NOT get his way.
  4. Day 25


    Today was Chest/Delts/Tris/Back...slightly modified doggcrapp style.

    My workout consisted of Flat Bench Press for chest (345lbs...6,3,2 Rest/Pause.), Dumbell presses for delts, lying barbell extensions for triceps, and dumbell rows. I simply ran out of fuel to hit back width. That just sucked!!! I've been pushing more weight than I'm use to and I'm starting to feel it. My wrists are still a bit sore from wednesday from the heavy curling and my elbows are slightly tender from all of the heavy pushing. Luckily too I have the weekend off to let my wrists and elbows relax.

    If there's one conclusion that I can for sure draw at this point regarding Jungle Warfare is that it gives some really sick strength gains. I also had a guy today totally shocked and he said that I'm looking a lot bigger. The last time he saw me was roughly 3 1/2 weeks ago when I started the Jungle Warfare! I see myself every day, so sometimes it is hard to tell. But I have been getting a lot of compliments lately on the size I've put on.

    I missed both of my planned cardio sessions this past week due to unexpected, last minute circumstances that came up. So the plan is to hit cardio on both Saturday and Sunday morning to make up for it. Nothing too heavy, just 30 minutes. I hate missing out on cardio because weighing 232lbs on a 5'10" frame is a lot of weight to carry around for me. Cardio keeps me feeling light and agile.

    I can't say however that I have noticed any profound leaning effect from the Jungle Warfare. Maybe it's that the whey protein bloats me to a point that I just can't tell, or maybe it's just my diet right now. This is what I will have had for today and is pretty typical for me...what do you think?

    Meal 1: Shake consisting of...
    2 cups non fat milk
    1 cup raw oatmeal
    2 scoop whey protein powder

    1/2 powerbar

    My workout

    Meal 2:PWO shake contains 87g carbs, 70g protein, 6 g fat.

    Meal 3
    1 1/2 cups brown rice
    1 can chunk white tuna
    4 oz. chicken

    Meal 4: shake consisting of...

    2 cups non fat milk
    1 cup raw oatmeal
    2 scoop whey protein powder

    Meal 5

    1 1/2 cups brown Rice
    10 oz chicken
    Veges

    Meal 6: Usually a shake

    2 cups non fat milk
    1 cup raw oatmeal
    2 scoop whey protein powder

    There may be a few other items in here throughout the day, but this is a typical meal plan for me and it usually works out to roughly 4000 kcal.

    Ok, so saturday and sunday are cardio days with abs and calves. Monday will be Traps, biceps, forearms, quads and hammies.

  5. Your diet looks spot on, I read your log almost daily and would add comments, but your log is so complete I really have nothing to add, except this product seems to be kicking serious ass for ya..... rock on
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
    Your diet looks spot on, I read your log almost daily and would add comments, but your log is so complete I really have nothing to add, except this product seems to be kicking serious ass for ya..... rock on
    LOL!! Thanks! Maybe I'll just start omitting stuff so that you have comments to add! Glad to hear I'm covering all the bases.

    I wasn't quite sure what to think about JW at first, being herbal and all. I honestly didn't expect to get the results that I'm getting so far. I'm very pleased.

  7. i'm not sure if the results have to be dramatic.......... i mean since it's not hormonal. with the ph's you'd expect you'd have to get to some very high points, since you know you're gonna lose a chunk of that during pct. but i'd be happy if this product gave me a pound or two/month AND/OR better composition. i mean wouldn't we all be a happy camper if we each gained 8 pounds in 6 months, while looking leaner? i think for the average joe, that more than exceeds expectations....especially if the product is as they say "good for you". but even if it weren't, at least it's not bad for you.
  8. Day 28


    Tomorrow I'm going to weigh myself...LOL!! It's too damn late right now and I've had too much food to provide an accurate figure.

    Today in the gym was Traps, Biceps, Forearms, Quads, Hams...all from doggcrapp style training with slight modifications.

    Traps: Barbell Shrugs rest/pause, rest for 3 minutes, then perfomed one straight set.
    Quads: Squats on a smith machine...loved it!! 3 straight sets
    Biceps: EZ barbell Curls Rest/Pause, rest for 3 minutes then performed one straight set with X reps.
    Forearms: Reverse curls using an EZ curl bar, 2 sets...1st set rest/pause, the second set a straight set with X reps.
    Hammies: Hammer Strength lying leg curls, rest/pause, 2 sets performed.

    This is my workout C, the 3rd in the rotation of Doggcrapp style training so come next week we'll see what kind of strength gains I have made.
  9. Week 4 impressions so far...


    Alright, it's been 4 weeks since first begining this product so I thought it would be a good idea to post some thoughts at the end of 4 weeks.

    Positives

    *Increased Strength.
    *Increased Libido.
    *Increased stamina and performance in the gym.
    *Increases with muscle mass are at this point really starting to show.
    *Better overall attitude...just a general feeling of feeling good.
    *Heightened alpha male attitude.
    *Pumps that last all day...very nice vasodilation effect.

    Negatives...if you can really call them that

    *A bit of increased acne and oily skin for the first 10 days or so. That subsided however after about 10 days into it.
    *That heightened alpha male attitude I mentioned above...yeah, it'll make you a little more irritable at times!

    So far this is a solid product. The problem that I am seeing is that some people are expecting Superdrol/Ergomax/PheraPlex style gains that are rapid and immediate. That's not the case with Jungle Warfare. The results really don't start to come through until about 2 weeks in....that's about when you I at least began to notice some significant changes. I think the biggest effects that I noticed within the first 2 weeks was an increased pump (very reminiscent of ActivaTE as they both bind SHBG), increases in libido, and increases in strength and stamina starting to occur. It takes 10-14 days or so from what I've noticed for the AI to lower your estrogen levels low enough and escalate your testosterone levels high enough in return before your body is in a significantly more capable state of building muscle mass. Therefore, I think that at the time the first bottle is empty is when users will really be at their peak for experiencing the effects of Jungle Warfare. Weeks 3 and 4 have been HUGE for me. Not to mention the effects of the AR agonist which at this point I really couldn't gauge.

    I think that a product like this is best run for 8 or more weeks to truly gauge its effectiveness because I am now at a point where I feel like I am fully experiencing ALL of the benefits of Jungle Warfare. Granted I have a history of androgen use with 3 Ergomax cycles run in the last year so users of JW who haven't used androgens will more than likely experience results greater than mine. But I'm pretty damn impressed so far to say the least and if it's kicking this much ass at 4 weeks in I can only imagine where I'll be in another 4 weeks...with a solid diet and workout plan of course.

  10. Thats all great news Now get your booty to bed! Why are you still up???? Sheeeeesh give them muscles some rest


    Im starting JW in 2 weeks at my own risk of course.

  11. great log, great numbers, great gains, great lifts....Great thread. Im gonna get me some JW lets see how your next 4 weeks go first tho, thanks for posting this thread.
  12. Day 29


    I weighed myself this morning....up 3lbs. I now weigh 235lbs. This was done first thing upone waking in the morning. My goal for next week is 237lbs.

    So...

    Day 1: 220lbs
    Day 10: 230lbs (primarily due to refeeding/glycogen storage after a cut...although some was muscle mass gained.)
    Day 22: 232lbs
    Day 29: 235lbs
    Day 36:....?

  13. And hey, out of curiosity, why did you decide to throw Jungle Warfare into the mix? I understand how it works in males, but what has ALRI told you about its effects on women and the pathways by which it works in women? I can see how the AR agonist is still going to have a profound effect on your androgen receptors, I can see how the inhibition of SHBG will free up the testosterone you're producing, and I can see the benefit of lower estrogen levels...but how is testosterone suppose to be increased? I'm very curious!! I eat up all the physiology I can get!

    I believe I read somewhere the SHBG also binds with estrogen and can therefore increase the amount of estrogen that is rendered "free". Has Author discussed this with you or will the AI in the JW keep the estrogen levels low enough that it won't be an issue? I ask because women characteristically have a higher level of estrogen than men.




    In answer to your question in my log : Ummmmmmm I am taking it at my own risk, However, Raven did use JW with favorable results and with no masculinizing effects. I really dont know the path that it works honestly, and have not asked Author. Im assuming it will raise my testosterone level and thus will help me build some muscle, Im not sure what it might do to my estrogen, but I doubt it will raise it. Im also interested in the effects of increased libido I hear about, as right now my hubby ( viperspit) is chasing me around the house all night!! He is taking JW as well lol, I will probably try it for 8 weeks. And I do not think I need PCT, as any estrogen is welcomed after using JW. Heck wish I had a better answer for ya This is the strongest thing I would ever condsider using as a female. I know Author said that it has been tested on a few females, with good results but they have not tested it enough to really market it for use for females. Im sort of a risk taker by nature, so Ill take one day at a time and I am in contact with Author and Raven and the whole ALRI team if I need any help so I feel confident at this point.


    Also, Thank you for the wonderful comments on my log, you made me smile really big!!!!!!!!!!


    FnF
  14. Day 30


    blah...double post. See below!!
  15. Day 30


    Let me just start out by saying "I hate gym music." I didn't have my head phones with me this morning and damn it, I can't ****ing stand trying to workout to slow-ass R&B music, coffee shop wanna be jazzy/piano rock, and that crappy-ass rock music that sounds like it came off a TV add for one of the WB's hit series like Dawson's Creek or whatever. I just don't understand how a gym can play slow music for its members. And at my gym, it's always the girls at the front desk that play that crap...not trying to be sexest, just stating an observed fact. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrr!!!!!! Can anybody tell how ****ing adgitated I am right now!!! LOL!!!! Ok, just had to rant and I'm feeling better

    Now, down to business. Aside from the lovely music in the gym today that made it very difficult to be focused and intense, I smashed all my records. Today's workout went like this.

    slightly modified Doggcrapp style: Chest/Tris/Back/Delts

    Chest:

    Incline Press: 335lbs for 8 to failure, then continued through Rest/Pause. Up 20lbs and down 2 reps from last week's 315 for 9.

    Triceps:

    Close Grips on a Smith machine at an incline...I think 225lbs rest/pause style.
    Followed by a straight set of one-arm reverse grip cable pushdowns (Is there a shorter name for this exercise!! Sheeesh!).

    Back (Width)

    Reverse Grip pulldowns (hands shoulder width apart): I started with 170 and nailed 13 reps...totally not expected as last week I did 170 for 6. So after the 13 I kicked up the weight to 180lbs, pulled for 6,4,4,3 rest/pause.
    Then, just for fun after resting for 3 minutes I did a straight set of 200lbs for 6. So, in one DC cycle from workout A, through B and C and then back to workout A which was today, I went from using 160lbs to nearly 200lbs on this exercise. Nice slow movements, no jerking. Not to shabby. An effect of DC style training or JW...probably both IMO.

    Back (Thickness)

    Deadlifts done on a Rack: 315lbs for 8....still working on that grip!

    Delts
    Upright Rows on a smith machine: Last week's weight of 185 was a bit too "uncontrolled" for me even though I got 6 reps...it was the 2nd exercise in my workout last week. I've seen people seriously mess their shoulders up with this exercise so I checked my ego at the rack before stepping in and dropped the weight to 165lbs....which was much better. I did this for I believe 6 reps to failure, then 4,4,3 rest/pause and this time it was the LAST exercise in my workout.

    So overall, the strength gains just keep on comin'!! Pumps are still fantastic in the gym too from the Jungle Warfare.

    Oh, and I've readjusted my calories per my new weight. Here's how I calculate it.

    235lbs * 15= 3525 + 500cals above maint = 4025 kcals total each day to gain weight.

    Oh, and for those are concerned about libido issues with using AI's, my libido is still very high. I had some issues with ATD lowering my estrogen levels too low and well, that just sucked as my libido tanked. But I'm having no such problem with the AI in Jungle Warfare. It is keeping estrogen at just the right level to leave me horny as hell all day long!....huh huh huh...I said "Long"..huh huh huh! A little classic Beavis and Butthead for you younger ones who don't get the joke

  16. I hear you about the gym music bro. That crap drives me nuts! Headphones are a must!
    Good log by the way.
    I'm on day 5 of JW myself. The only thing i've noticed so far are some moderate headaches.
    Keep us posted!

  17. You know when you are wearing your ear buds, working out and minding your own business........all is going cool.....and then some nimrod comes up and starts talking, all you see is lips moving, Try this, when your done with your set, spurt out some japanese sounding words and then people leave you alone!!!!!!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Terminator LMG
    Day 1: 220lbs
    Day 10: 230lbs (primarily due to refeeding/glycogen storage after a cut...although some was muscle mass gained.)
    Day 22: 232lbs
    Day 29: 235lbs
    Day 36:....?
    To Everyone interested in MY Weight Gain

    So I've been thinking, and I'll be able to say this with greater confidence next week and each week thereafter, but my gains have for the most part been pretty consistent...2-3lbs each week.

    A good deal of what was seen up till Day 22 was due to a refeed and simple glycogen replenishment from the recent Venom cut. But if I'm consistenly gaining 2-3lbs a week and I've been on it for 4 weeks now...let's see....in 4 weeks I've gained a total of 15lbs, 8lbs of which is muscle (2lbs each week * 4 weeks = 8 lbs), 7lbs from the glycogen replenishment. 8lbs of muslce in 4 weeks from a non-hormonal product...yeah, I'm really digging this stuff And next week if I'm up at 237-238lbs, that will strengthen this claim even more.

    LOL!! I gotta go eat!

    FitnFirm

    LOL!!! That was some funny stuff!! I'll have to spout off in my make-shift japanese voice impression next time somebody approaches me during the middle of a set!! I was dying laughing just imaging that!

    Here's the thing. I love getting know the people that are the gym that I workout next to every day. I enjoy creating some sense of comaraderie among those I see every day and I enjoy talking a little bit of shiat to everyone in there and in return getting shiat from people back. But at the same time I go there to workout. Not to have a conversation between sets. Between sets I'm gasping for air and I'm recentering myself the next set.

    I enjoy meeting new people there to. Sometimes however there are innocent questions asked like "how do you get your arms so big, or how do you get so big" that on the surface seem like a simple question with a simple answer. But it's a loaded question. It's an answer that requires an explanation of both diet and training principles and it's never as simple of an answer as it seems. I wouldn't mind answering it, but my experience is that people don't want the "true" answer to their questions. They want the quick and easy answer that reveals the long lost secret underground exercise that only I know of, and of course the magic supplement that I'm taking that is doing it all for me.

    There's a time and a place for everything and both during and between sets is not the time.
  19. Day 32


    I had to cut my workout short on Friday....just running short on time as I went and had blood work done as part of my physical checkup at the Dr.'s office. I didn't anticipate posting bloodwork at all as when this log started I didn't have health insurance (being a college student and all). But now I have health insurance through my wife. I'll have Total and Free test levels to post up on Monday, as well as TSH, LH, FSH, and cholesterol. Granted I don't have a baseline to compare to, but still, thought it would be interesting.

    Diet

    4000+ kcal every day

    Today's workout

    This is the shortened DC workout. I was pissed because I just didn't have time to get it all in, but in the grant scheme of things, or even 4 weeks from now, is it really gonna matter that I miss a couple exercises? NO.

    Traps
    Dumbell Shrugs: 120lb dumbells....12,4,4,2 rest/pause
    Then another set with the 130lb dumbells and I got 4 reps. Funny thing is that I forgot my lifting gloves today so aside from not having the strongest grip yet, the sweat on my bare hands didn't help either.

    Biceps
    Dumbell Hammer Curls: Today 75lb Dumbells. 8,5,3,3 Last Week: 70lb dumbells for 8 reps I believe...so a pretty nice strength gain there.
    Set 2: 60lb Dumbells. 12 straight reps, followed by 3 X-reps


    Forearms
    One-arm reverse cable curls: 70lbs...15 reps...last week I hit 70lbs for 6 I believe.
    Dumbell wrist curls: 60lbs...11 reps....my grip was just sucking at this point and especially without any gloves

    Abs
    Weighted Ab Machine: The whole stack for 15 reps each. Each rep was done with a "double dip" at the "sweet spot" according to Johnathan Lawson from Iron Man magazine in reference to X-rep training...basically 2 partial reps at the point in the range of motion where the muscle can generate the most force.


    I missed out on quads and hammies. No biggy.
  20. Day 34


    It was 25 minutes of cardio today, plus 6 sets of abs and 3 sets of the weighted ab machine. I tend to not follow the DC recommendation for calf training only because mine respond so well to a slightly higher number of sets. Why fix it if it isn't broken right? For abs I was able to use the whole stack on the weighted ab machine. With this I love doing 1 1/2's, or double dipping in the sweet spot of the range of motion where I can generate the most force production. This is a killer. Sometimes I'll double dip 2 or 3 times in that part of the range of motion. I would have done more but I ran into 2 old friends that I hadn't seen in over 5 years so I had to stop and chat for a while.

    Tomorrow is Chest, Tris, Back, and Delts D/C style baby!! I'm pumped up to throw it up big and see what I weigh on Tuesday!!
  21. Day 35


    Yeah, just another kickass workout today. Today was Workout B for Chest/Tris/Back/Delts in the DC rotation.

    Chest

    Decline Hammer Strength: 480lbs for 9 to failure, 4,3,2 rest/pause.
    Second set using 370lbs...7 total reps, each was a 1 1/2...double dipping in the sweet spot, X-rep style baby!!

    Tris
    Cable Pushdowns: 320lbs (on the single pulley, not double) for 8,5,4,3 rest/pause. I think last week was 300lbs for 8
    Second set using 220lbs, employing 1 1/2's...double dipping in the sweet spot, X-rep style baby!!

    Back (Width)

    Lat Pull Downs: 210lbs...6,3,2 rest/pause.
    Second set with 170lbs...I forget the # of reps.

    Thickness (Thickness)

    Maching Rows: The whole stack for 8 reps, then 4,3,3 rest/pause!! Yeah baby!! Nice and slow too! When I first started doing this exercise I was just struggling a couple months ago.
    I plugged a second set in here too.

    Delts

    Smith machine military presses...205lbs for 11 reps. I could have gone heavier on this exercise if it was earlier in my routine, but damn guys, I'm just beat dead tired at this point. Still stronger than last week, but you know. I put it up there anyways!

    Still no noticeable negative side effects so far. No acne, no oily skin. No thinning of the hair. Just a little bit of moodiness from time to time. My libido is still very high, strength is still going up, recovery seems to be great, the pumps and vascularity are there as well all day long from the JW. At 5 weeks in I'm just damn impressed with this product. I had a guy today who said he hadn't seen me in awhile and he remarked that I'm looking a lot bigger since he last saw me.

    People are starting to wonder what I'm on...(hint, hint Author and staff at ALRI). I told a guy at the gym what I was taking and he had said that he'd never even heard of ALRI before. Some T's with ALRI's name to pimp while pumpin' are a good idea!!

    I couldn't get the results of my bloodwork today while at work...it was just busy. I'll have that up for you guys tomorrow. And I'll be weighing myself then too.

    Till then, peace out everyone.
  22. Re: Day 35


    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator LMG
    Yeah, just another kickass workout today. Today was Workout B for Chest/Tris/Back/Delts in the DC rotation.

    Chest


    I couldn't get the results of my bloodwork today while at work...it was just busy. I'll have that up for you guys tomorrow. And I'll be weighing myself then too.

    Till then, peace out everyone.
    Hey wazup,

    Just curious about weight. do u think u would be gaining on a maintenance diet. Thought u would be the best to ask since ur taking in da product. I asked in another thread and just want ur opinion I got one bottle so mayb I ll try another bottle on a maintenance diet (just cause it would be great if the product could really deliver that kind of gains with out increase in diet) or get chaos and run it with the one bottle of JW what do u think?

    Thanx Bro

  23. Quote Originally Posted by romanreid
    Hey wazup,

    Just curious about weight. do u think u would be gaining on a maintenance diet. Thought u would be the best to ask since ur taking in da product. I asked in another thread and just want ur opinion I got one bottle so mayb I ll try another bottle on a maintenance diet (just cause it would be great if the product could really deliver that kind of gains with out increase in diet) or get chaos and run it with the one bottle of JW what do u think?

    Thanx Bro
    My take on this is that you can't build a sky-scraper with just a few bricks. I believe you have to eat more cals in the right macronutrient ratios, to build more muscle.

    Now, JW claims to have a strong "nutrient repartitioning effect". So in theory it appears that you could gain a little lean muscle from a maintenance diet. How that plays out in the real world though I'm not quite sure off. I would bet that you'd notice a much better "recomposition" effect by eating at maintenance if you have a high body fat %, granted that your macronutrients are proportioned correctly.

    I state the above because I've been eating at 500kcal above maintenance. I've been averaging roughly 2lbs a week. So given that I'm gaining 2lbs/week at 500kcal above maintenance.....if I were to eat at maintenance I doubt I would see a significant change in muscle mass. But that's just my body.

    As everyone's body tends to respond differently, my best advice would be to give it a shot and see what happens. My personal opinion however is that if you are purely after more muscle mass, since you've spent the $50 bucks for the product, you might as well make sure that you get everything out of it, and that would mean eating at higher than just maintenance...just add in another home-made weight gainer shake throughout the day to get some extra cals. If you need some good ideas for home-made weight gainer shakes that won't turn you into a fat-ass, let me know!!

    Either way, let me know how it works out for you. I'm really enjoying this stuff and I think it'll more than likely be a staple in my supplementation on year round basis, with 4 week breaks from it every 12 weeks.

  24. thanks man not decieded yet but I appreciate the advice
  25. Day 36


    I weighed myself this morning....up 1lb. I now weigh 236lbs. This was done first thing upone waking in the morning. My goal for next week is 237-238lbs.

    So...

    Day 1: 220lbs
    Day 10: 230lbs (primarily due to refeeding/glycogen storage after a cut...although some was muscle mass gained.)
    Day 22: 232lbs
    Day 29: 235lbs
    Day 36: 236lbs

    And I'm looking leaner too. This is the first week that I can say that I'm noticing the leaning effect from Jungle Warfare. It's about damn time!! So I've probably lost a lb of bodyfat in that equation too.

    Given what ALRI has projected for weight gain over the course of 12 weeks (12-15lbs lean tissue with a loss of 6-8lbs of fat), I'd say I'm right on track to be consistent with those claims muscle mass wise, and if I continue from here on out to notice more of a leaning effect, I'll be on track fat-loss wise too.

    So, at the VERY least, given that first 10 day's rapid weight gain from glycogen replenishment after the cut, I've gained at the very least 6-8lbs of muscle mass in just 5 weeks. Not superdrol style results, but my d!ck still works and my lipids aren't all funcked up!!! And I don't have to run a pct. Some people didn't even retain that much lean tissue after their pct from superdrol. I'm happy to say the least

  26. get your butt over to AB- BigAl who is a doctor has found your thread about your problem, he wants to know some more info so he can help you

  27. great summary TLMG. Sounds like the JW is kciking in nicely. I posted in another thread on my results. Since I upped my cals by 500/day and upped JW to 4/day, I've had a nice stead climb in weight to 229 from 224 in the last week and my wiast got smaller by 1/2 inch.

    Keep up the good work. You still dosing at 3/day?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    Since I upped my cals by 500/day and upped JW to 4/day, I've had a nice stead climb in weight to 229 from 224 in the last week and my wiast got smaller by 1/2 inch.

    Keep up the good work. You still dosing at 3/day?

    A climb in weight from 229 to 224??? Did you type that right? That's a loss of 5lbs. Did you mean you went from 229lbs to 234lbs instead? Congrats though on the loss of 1/2 on your waist! I always love it when my pants start falling down below my ass! Makes me feel sexy

    Um, no, I upped the dosage awhile back to 4 caps a day. ALRI never got back to me on the issue, even after I sent them pics and a history of my PH/PS use, so I made the decision myself.

  29. [QUOTE= I always love it when my pants start falling down below my ass! Makes me feel sexy

    Um, no, I upped the dosage awhile back to 4 caps a day. ALRI never got back to me on the issue, even after I sent them pics and a history of my PH/PS use, so I made the decision myself.[/QUOTE]





    pants falling down........LOL



    I have read some people doing 8 caps a day!!!!!!! and still no problems.

  30. If you look closely, I said I climbed to 229, from 224.

    That's okay, I'll forgive you. My pants have been falling down for quite awhile now as they are 36 waists. FnF won't buy me any new ones cause she said when she does, I'll just get fat again


    Good to hear the 4 caps/day are working well for you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator LMG
    A climb in weight from 229 to 224??? Did you type that right? That's a loss of 5lbs. Did you mean you went from 229lbs to 234lbs instead? Congrats though on the loss of 1/2 on your waist! I always love it when my pants start falling down below my ass! Makes me feel sexy

    Um, no, I upped the dosage awhile back to 4 caps a day. ALRI never got back to me on the issue, even after I sent them pics and a history of my PH/PS use, so I made the decision myself.
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