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Hello All:

I have another log going under the weight loss forum and I just got my Serious Nutritions E2 Matrix I will be starting tomorrow. If there is enough interest I will keep a log detailing my strength, vasuclarity gains etc along with my weights and work-outs. My fatloss log is just detailing my cardio and diet along with bf% and waist. So let me know guys.
 
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Hello All:

I have another log going under the weight loss forum and I just got my Serious Nutritions E2 Matrix I will be starting tomorrow. If there is enough interest I will keep a log detailing my strength, vasuclarity gains etc along with my weights and work-outs. My fatloss log is just detailing my cardio and diet along with bf% and waist. So let me know guys.
I'm keeping a CVM/AE2 Matrix log right now, and it has 1200 views in under 2 weeks. I for one am definately interested in you keeping a log.
 
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I'm keeping a CVM/AE2 Matrix log right now, and it has 1200 views in under 2 weeks. I for one am definately interested in you keeping a log.
That's cause your special..My USP log has like 12 in 3 weeks!..:stick:

But yeah, give 'er man..I'll be setting one up soon as I get it.
 
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Day 1
4 matrix/2 kranker speed gels 40minutes before my work out.

Shoulders
dumbell presses 1x15 25lbs 3x8 40lbs 1x10 40lbs
shrugs 1x30 25lbs 3x15 40lbs
side lateral 1x10 20lbs 2x10 25lbs
rear lateral 3x12 25lbs
machine presses 1x10 95lbs 1x10 115lbs 1x10 135lbs

Nothing to report yet as far as pump or vascularity that I could tell but it was just the first dose. Monday should be a better gauge as it will be chest day and I can tell pumps alot better on chest then on shoulders.
 
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Day 2 no weights just cardio dont' know if this is supposed to happen but both days my cardio has been up yesterday i did 46min and today 51min and felt like i could do more. Is this the Matrix? I have never taken a creatine or nos product of any kind so dont know if there is an energy boost from it? Could someone chime in? thanks
 
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Maybe you can give feedback towards what SNS claims are on E2. "taken from their product page" :
User Feedback Indicates:

Increased Lean Muscle Gains
Increases Strength
Increased Endurance
Improved Recovery
Excellent ‘Pumps’
NO Fat Storage or Bloating

I always find it helpful when Loggers rate the supplement towards the claims in a summary at the end of their log. Good luck with it.
 
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Increased Lean Muscle Gains Not sure yet
Increases Strength Not sure yet
Increased Endurance I would have to say a big YES
Improved Recovery Can't say for sure yet
Excellent ‘Pumps’ Felt my first pump today
NO Fat Storage or Bloating No bloating so far

Day 3 workout 4 matrix 40minutes before back workout

Lat pulldowns palms facing eachother two handle machine
1x10 130lbs 3x8 190lbs 1x10 130lbs

close grip lat pulldowns
1x6 1x8 2x10 135lbs 1x8 150lbs

wide grip pull-ups
1x4 plus partial reps to failure
25lb assist 1x6 1x4 partials to failure
 
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day 4 Chest
Flat Bench 1x12 135lb 1x6 185lb 1x3 195lb 1x4 185lb
1x6 165lb
Dumbell presses 1x6 65lb 1x6 60lb 1x8 55lbs
Incline flys 3x10 40lbs 2x10 35lbs

I probablly could of got at least 1-2 more reps on all the flat bench sets but no spotter today and didn't want to risk it.

I felt extremly pumped in my tri's and bi's that doesnt usually happen even my back felt pumped. Couldn't say I noticed a difference in Chest As I always get a good pump their but the other muscles being pumped were a nice addition.

This was my 1st chest day and I am anxious to see how recovery goes as when i'm on it's a few days but since being off it's been more like a week. I will keep everyone updated but if the increased endurance and today's pump are indications of how this will be when it really kicks in by next week I can't wait.
 
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day 5 legs
abductor machine 1x12 55lbs,60lbs 70lbs
leg extensions 1x10 50,55,65lbs (low i know bad knees)
leg presses 3x12 160lbs
seated leg presses 3x15 210lbs
calf raises 3x12 210lbs
calf raises toes pointed out 3x12 210lb

Thoughts energy and endurance is up seems to kick in half way into my work-out i always do some extra sets. NO noticeable pumps but leg days are usually light due to having had surgery on both knees. This morning it looked like veins in my chest and shoulders were starting to come out. Tomorrow is arms that should be interesting as far as pumps go.
 
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Just saw your log.

Please clarify a couple of things for me and I can probably offer a few suggestions.

- Are you using the Creatine E2 Matrix or the Arginine E2 Matrix?

- What is your exact daily dosage?
 
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Just saw your log.

Please clarify a couple of things for me and I can probably offer a few suggestions.

- Are you using the Creatine E2 Matrix or the Arginine E2 Matrix?

- What is your exact daily dosage?

Creatine e2 matrix
4 caps 45-1hr before weights

4 caps at night
 
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Day 6 arms.


ez curl/dumbell hammer curl super set
3x10 63lbs / 3x10 25lbs
tricep rope pushdowns
1x15 72lbs 1x10 84lbs 1x8 96lbs
overhead tricep extensions
1x10 50lb 1x10 60lb 1x10 65lbs
concentration curls/single overhead extensions super set
1x10 20lbs/ 1x10 20lbs
2x8 25lbs/ 2x10 25lbs
seated dumbell curls
3x10 20lbs

Arms felt extremely pumped today and once again had more endurance through in the seated dumbells because of how good the pump felt. Had to unroll the sleeves of my work shirt after.
 
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Creatine e2 matrix
4 caps 45-1hr before weights

4 caps at night
Okay. Just wanted to make sure I was understanding everything correctly.

Let me know if you have any questions or need any help.
 
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Mixedup- I went ahead and changed the title of your thread to specify that you are using the Creatine E2 Matrix rather than the Arginine E2 Matrix.
 
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Mixedup- I went ahead and changed the title of your thread to specify that you are using the Creatine E2 Matrix rather than the Arginine E2 Matrix.

No problem
 
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Day 7 Shoulders

Bent over laterals/Shrugs super set
3x10 30lbs/3x12 30lbs

side lateral raises
3x18 25lbs 3x10 15lbs

machine shoulder press palms facing each other
1x10 90lbs, 130lbs, 150lbs, 160lbs

adductor machine I think that right inner thighs
2x20 50lbs 2x15 60lbs 2x10 70lbs

Thoughts after 1st week
ENDURANCE 10
ENERGY kicks in about half way through the work out but a 9-10
Recovery the increase in recovery I haven't seen yet chest still sore today from Tuesdays workout.

Pumps More of a fullness than a pump hard to describe it's not the pump i get like a fina or drol pump where everything is tight. but it very noticeable.

Vascularity Increased while working out but unfortunately not lasting past work out hopefull this will change as it's only 1st week.

Am i happy YES just the energy and endurance alone are worth the price.
 
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No one will laugh, thats an amazing transformation. Especially in the that short of a time period. I'm inspired.

much appreciated bro if i knew how to give rep points i'd give you some. Yeah it took alot of 5am cardio work outs and giving up a lot of food, ice cream, chocolate, chips etc but when I look at the before pics it's worth it imho
 
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Excellent progress.
 
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Day 9 no weights this weekend I am doing a 5 day workout with each body part once a week. legs i am doing 2times a week but splitting with leg presses and abductor machine one day and calf raises, leg extensions and addcutor machine the other day.

Would like to note Even with no working out I am still starting to see more vascularity I'm really excited about this week.
 
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Day 10 back & legs
Last week
lat pulldowsn plams facing 1x10 130lbs 3x8 190lbs 1x10 130lbs

Today
1x10 130lbs 3x8 195lbs 1x10 155lbs

last week
lat pulldowns 1x6 1x8 2x10 130lbs 1x8 150lbs

today
3x10 130lbs 1x8 150lbs 1x6 150lbs

last week
pull-ups 1x4 no assist 1x6 1x4 25lb assist

today

1x6 no assist 1x6 1x4 25lb assist

legs abductor 4x15 110lbs
legs aductor 2x15 110lbs

PUMPS
Getting better each work-out
Vascularity
Coming out more still not staying around after work out yet
Energy
Still great
 
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Day 11 Chest

last week

Flat bench 1x12 135lbs, 1x6 185lbs, 1x3 195lbs, 1x4 185lbs, 1x6 165lbs
Incline presses 1x6 65lbs, 1x6 60lbs, 1x8 55lbs
incline flys 3x10 40lbs, 2x10 35lbs

this week

flat bench 1x10 135lbs 1x3 195lbs 1x6 185lbs 1x3 190lbs
incline presses 1x10 60lbs, 1x8 1x6 65lbs
incline flyes 2x10 45lbs 1x4 50lbs


Pumps Really good today felt in my outer chest which i dont usually feel didn't notice till i got out of the gym though. Back & Bi's still feel kind of pumped from yesterday

Strength up a little on incline presses and flyes but not really on flat bench was hoping for more this week

Energy lower than usual not sure if this has to do with switching carbs from white rice and pasta to brown rice and wheat pasta this week?

Overall ok work-out nothing spectacular maybe i was just tired.
 
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Day 12 arms GOOD DAY

last week ez curl/hammer super set 3x10 63lbs/3x10 25lbs

this week ez curl 1x 12 53lbs -ezcurl/hammer 3x8 83lbs/3x10 25lbs

last week tricep rope pushdowns
1x15 72lbs 1x10 84lbs 1x8 96lbs

this week
1x15 72lbs 1x12 84lbs, 96lbs 2x10 108lbs, 1x20 60lbs

last week seated dumbell curls
3x10 20lbs

this week
3x10 20lbs

last week overhead tricep extension
1x10 50lbs, 60lbs, 65lbs

this week
2x10 65lbs 1x10 70lbs

PUMPS really felt these today felt really good. steadily getting better each day

VASCULARITY did not notice as much today. last night able to see more veins on chest and arms. Just not popping out or staying out.


ENERGY very good

STRENGTH Off the charts real good very happy.
 
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Day 13 Legs

calf raises
4x12 220lbs 2x8 260lbs

leg extensions
1x10 55lbs,65lbs,75lbs 2x10 80lbs

back extensions
1x12 200lbs, 240lbs 2x10 280lbs

seated leg press
1x15 210lbs 1x12 270lbs 3x10 310lbs 1x8 350lbs

calf raises toes out
4x10 250lbs

Energy
great still rate a 10 out of 10

Pumps
legs felt nice and full today something that doesnt' usually happen.

Strength
Once again VERY good.

Recovery
This is the one area i'm mixed on Recovery time between sets is shorting but recovery time day to day hasn't. For instance did Chest on Tuesday still sore today. This doesn't happen when i am "on" But able to get more sets in in a shorter amount of time so that is a plus

Vascularity
Nothing new to report.

Ok now I need you guys to chime in when posting my workout do you want me to post last weeks and this weeks like i did for my back chest etc or does that get to be too much and you just want this weeks numbers? Let me know
 
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no preferences on posting last weeks workout with this weeks? If not I just post the current work out as it is easier lol.
 
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no preferences on posting last weeks workout with this weeks? If not I just post the current work out as it is easier lol.
I personally like seeing the contrasts between this and last weeks. I wasnt going to reply, but since no one else commented I figured I'd give my input.
 
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I personally like seeing the contrasts between this and last weeks. I wasnt going to reply, but since no one else commented I figured I'd give my input.
Glad someone chimed in i was beginning to think no one was following my log. lol
 
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DAY 14 SHOULDERS

Last week machine shoulder press:
1x10 90,130,150.160lbs

Today
2x10 150lbs 2x10 160lbs

Last week side laterals drop sets
3x8 25lbs 3x10 15lbs

Today
2x10 25lbs 2x10 15lbs
1x6 30lbs

Last week rear lateral
3x10 30lbs

Today 4x10 35lbs

Last week Shrugs
3x12 30lbs

Today
4x12 35lbs

STRENGTH UP and feeling good getting ready for my mass cycle

PUMPS Very nice today shoulders felt and looked nice and full

ENERGY Still a 10

RECOVERY Rest time between sets is really coming down only about 30sec between sets really good.

VASCULARITY This is the one area where I was hoping for some more. maybe post cycle therapy I will try arginine e2 matrix along with creatine e2matrix

16 more days to go i'm getting anxious. Also for the people reading if there is anything else you would like to see in my logs let me know I try to go into as much detail as possible but always open for suggestions.


OOPs forgot I did 3x12 15lbs front lateral raises too through those in as a warm up;
 
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Glad someone chimed in i was beginning to think no one was following my log. lol
I'm still reading! A little pressed for time right now because of finals, but I'm still following every few days.
 
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Day 15 don't usually post on non weight training days but Just wanted to note Today I took my Matrix along with 2 IDS kranker speed gels before my morning Cardio.

I went 60 minutes on the treadmill another 10 minutes on the bike and I had energy to spare. I mean I ran a 1/4mile at under a 9 minute pace after already doing cardio for over 50 minutes and I wasn't out of breath. This was an absolute KILLER COMBO and one of the most economical too.

The ENERGY boost alone from the matrix is worth the price not to mention all the other benefits this will be a regular staple of mine when not on cycle for sure.
 
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Day 16 rest

Day 17 Back

Lat pulldowns last week:
3x10 130lbs 1x8,1x6 150lbs

This week
3x10 130lbs 2x8 155lbs

Lat pulldowns palms facing last week.
1x10 130lbs 3x8 195lbs 1x10 155lbs

This week
3x8 200lbs 1x8 175lbs

also did back extensions
1x15 220lbs 2x15 240lbs


STRENGTH/B] Up a little I caught a shot to the ribs in class and they have been acting up today so didn't go real hard but weights were still up a bit.

PUMPS OMG they were insane today my lats my biceps and forearms were crazy

VASCULARITY Starting to become more noticeable not sure if this is the matrix or the fact that i'm down in the 11% BF range now or maybe this part just took a little longer for my body to respond to.

ENERGY Felt a little sluggish today could be the ribs.

Overall very good much better than I thought today would be considering how my ribs feel. 13 more days left. So Far this product has done almost exactly what I purchased it for and that was to retain my weight while cutting down on bf% post cycle.
 
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Day 17 nighttime MMA class we did some regular pushups calf raises etc and I have to say I got REALLY pumped and this was before my second dose of Matrix. I think the effects are really starting to kick in this week. Maybe my body just took longer to respond than some others. I was a non responder to 1st gen creatine and I have never used a nox product.
 
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Day 18 Chest

last week
Flat Bench 1x10 135lbs 1x3 195lbs 1x6 185lbs 1x3 190lbs

This week
1x10 135lbs 1x6 190lbs 1x3 190lbs 1x6 205lbs assisted

Last week incline presses
1x10 60lbs 1x8 1x6 65lbs

this week
1x10 1x8 55lbs

incline flys last week
2x10 45lbs 1x4 50lbs

incline flys this week
1x10 1x8 1x12 35lbs

The rib injury definitely caused me some issues today on chest. Not a great work-out.

PUMPS these still good.

everything else not good today.
 
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Glad that things are going well with the product. Sorry to hear on the injury though. Hope that your recovery goes well with it.
 
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Glad that things are going well with the product. Sorry to hear on the injury though. Hope that your recovery goes well with it.

Thank you,

Yes I think the product is great. It will be part of my PCT from day one next cycle. Your products have never failed me infact I am using two of your products in my upcoming bulker. Methyl-drol and Inhibit E.
 
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Day 19 biceps

OK today was ALOT better no issues with ribs really just slight discomfort.

Last week

ez curl/dumbell hammer curl super set
1x12 53lbs 3x8 83lbs/ 3x10 25lbs

TODAY.
1x10 53lbs 1x10 83lbs 2x8 88lbs/ 4x12 20lbs

changed up routine so those are the only lifts that stayed the same from last week but over all good here is the rest of the work out.

barbell curls straight bar
1x10 53lbs, 63lbs, 73lbs

barbell wrist curls/reverse barbell wrist curls super set
1x12 53lbs, 63lbs

reverse barbell curls ez bar
3x10 53lbs

PUMPS
Once again a 10 really loving it,

ENERGY
Good today back to normal

RECOVERY
Very Nice lots of time to do more sets more exercises.

STRENGTH
felt strong and weight up on ez curls

Thoughts I would love to run a 60day cycle on this and probally will post cycle. Now knowing when the effects start to kick I think I will begin my Matrix 2 wks before the end of my upcoming Mass cycle so the effects are kicking from the 1st day of PCT. depending how vascularity is after the cycle i may add in Arginie e2 also. I am almost at the 3 week point and at this point have nothing but great reviews for this product especially for the Price it can't be beat for a non-hormonal imo.
 
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depending how vascularity is after the cycle i may add in Arginie e2 also. .
I think you would be really pleased adding in the Arginine E2 Matrix. It has gotten excellent reviews, and people see results above and beyond vascularity.
 
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I think you would be really pleased adding in the Arginine E2 Matrix. It has gotten excellent reviews, and people see results above and beyond vascularity.

yeah I am definetly thinking about everything has been great on the creatine matrix so far just lacking on the vascularity but i know the methyl-drol always brings it out good so i'll have to wait until after the cycle to make that decision.

BTW I am running your inhibt E with my next cycle do you think i should run it the whole cycle? the compounds in the cycle will be methyl-drol, m-trn, m-tst, and pherabol. it will start off with the methyl-drol, trn, tst I never had a problem with gyno on drol but with tst being a new compound and wanting to keep bloating to a minimum i was deciding betwen the whole cycle or adding in later like the beginning of week 3
 
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BTW I am running your inhibt E with my next cycle do you think i should run it the whole cycle? the compounds in the cycle will be methyl-drol, m-trn, m-tst, and pherabol. it will start off with the methyl-drol, trn, tst I never had a problem with gyno on drol but with tst being a new compound and wanting to keep bloating to a minimum i was deciding betwen the whole cycle or adding in later like the beginning of week 3
Honestly I havent ran that type of cycle before. I would say it depends on how long your cycle will be and also on your PCT, dosages, etc.
 
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Just a quick note as of yesterday I have upped the dose of to 12 caps 4x3 daily I will keep it at 12 until I start my BULK cycle next week. NO work out yesterday.
 
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Day 21 Shoulders:

LAST WEEK
Machine shoulder press 2x10 150lbs 2x10 160lbs

This week: 1x10 160lbs, 170lbs 180lbs

LAST WEEK
side lateral raises
2x10 25lbs/2x10 15lbs drop set 1x6 30lbs

This week
1x10 25lbs 2x10 30lbs

LAST WEEK
Rear Laterals 4x10 35lbs/shrugs 4x12 35lbs super set

Today
2x10 40lbs/2x12 40lbs 1x8 45lbs/1x10 45lbs


PUMPS
Amazing felt jacked by the second set.

Energy
Great as always.

Recovery
Great again less time between sets.

STRENGTH
heavier weights on all lifts again this week.

Vascularity
a little more but not as much maybe I'm just not that vascular or by bf% needs to be lower.

So after 3 weeks I am a fully satisfied customer by SNS once again. I am looking forward to running this longer and adding the arginie matrix in for PCT. I'm thinking at or above maintenace cals for 6-8 weeks on this would be AWESOME. For me it took a little longer than some for strength and pumps to kick in but energy was there from the get go. My advice to anyone is BUY this product and if it doesn't kick in as fast don't worry when it does you'll love it.
Another side note I did not lose any weight despite being on a Cut with at least 30 minutes a day and below maintenance calories I feel this really helped retain my lean mass greatly.
Any questions please feel free to ask. Now it's time to GET BIG
 
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Very glad that you were pleased with the Creatine E2 Matrix.
 
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Very glad that you were pleased with the Creatine E2 Matrix.

yep you have certainlly reached all your companys' goals on this product. look forward to the argine and creatine combo in a few months
 
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Just stoppin by and catching up on your log man! I agree that SNS products are top-notch!
 

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