The Ecdysterone expirement..
05-01-2006 08:36 AM
Its a little too early to tell to be honest. I will tell you that I really have to make an effort to make gains right now (past year or so). My numbers are up,.. but because of that damn electronic bodyfat tester at my gym Im gonna start shaving off a little. I'll still keep protein high, so well see where it goes.
I found some Methoxt on ebay: $4.00 for a 60ml bottle with 50mg methoxy-7-.... per serving. -I bought 3 , thjinbking that Id dose heavy with that also. I found that SCi-Fit also has a Methoxy 500 !!! Should have gotten that. If it works, I think that you could run the two for less then $50.00,.. put on maybe 3-6 pounds in a month. No PCT needed.
Is that worh it?? -thats a personal descission.
I'll continue to update, as this was a rough weekend, so I ended up not eating like I should have, and sleeping some.
It's looking as long as I do my part, the ECDY does it's. Hopefully, the methoxy will liven things up some too.
05-02-2006 04:14 PM
Updates to come tomarrow,,...
05-02-2006 04:26 PM
when i took ecdy, methoxy , and ipraflavone i didnot have any noticable increases in energy or physcological advantages but my strenth and weight went up. I could notice my muscles feeling tighter as well as looking tighter and bigger. u should cycle edcy tho as it starts losing effectivness after around 20 days. also when u buy the ecdy make sure u can try to get it in teh purest form you can. i managed to get it in the form before it is turned into ecdy. rhapticum carthomides (spelling) and it worked well for me. product was vyo var i believe by vyo tech.
05-03-2006 11:27 AM
The product I used say 99% pure. Now, I see there are a few fillers listed, and I find it hard to beleive that is PURE 20-ECDY, but, the ingreadients say 20-ectosteron,.. then 99% pure.
Anyways- Weighed in at 184 last night. This is a little less then the 165.5 that got me excited. HOWEVER, I did have a really screwed up weekend, and have been tring to shed a bit of fat, which I beleive to happening. I'll get my bf% checked tonnight to confirm.
05-04-2006 10:11 AM
Measured my bodyfat twice last night:
13.9%. wether thats right, I really dont care. What I care about is if it went up or down. And for the most part, (aside from seeing 14.2% last time) that doesnt appear to be a change!
Body weight was 183.0 !! So, I see, I lost a few pounds, but my bodyfat remained the same!! -Im going to war with the scale now! ITs ON!!
Added the 7-methoxyflavone last night. Igot 4 bottles, 60ml each, 50mg per dose.
I dont remember what the most effective dose is,.. but Im shooting for 200mg daily (that doesnt seem out of the normal for some reason).
Anyways- Im not tring to be concervative with it, I only paid $4 for each!
Hell, I might just TRY and mega dose that too! I need a little more information on the stuff first, so Ill see what kind of results are out there first.
One thing to note, is My diet has been off for the past few days. In my attempt to not add any bodyfat, my evening meal (which is about an hour after I lift) has been reduced some. This is just becasue If I eat a crazy big dinner, I can only absorb soo much of it, before it begins to be storred.
I think I'll revert back to this methoed though,.. as I had to fight tooth and nail for these last 3 lbs!!!!
05-04-2006 12:10 PM
200 mg of methoxyisoflavone isnot that high. i would shot for a higher number if u have enough of it.i would go atleast 300 minimum. TAke about half or so with ur post workout protein shake. make sure to gets lots of carbs as well. ... is there ipraflavone in teh methoxy u bout as well. if so thats good. it helps shuttle more macronutrients.
05-04-2006 12:53 PM
I beleive there is. I'll double check.
yeah- I didnt think 200mg was high at all. I think I'll shoot for like 600mg at least. Maybe Ill bring it to work and just take a dose here or there randomly durring the day. If I notice it having any effect, I'll then be more cautious and make dosing percise. I would like to know if it worked first.
05-04-2006 10:12 PM
yeah i here ya, im starting up a small stack of methoxy and ecdy right now, about one week one.. and one thing is clear,, my energy and feeling of intensity has gone up in the last couple days. i dont remember that before.. but i like it.
05-05-2006 08:31 AM
WHY CANT I SEE THE SAIL BOAT!!!
(sorry, no one probably gets that line)
Seriously, Im a little perterbed that I havent gotten any sorts of energy from it!
05-06-2006 06:31 PM
Mallrats is the best Kevin Smith movie.
Originally Posted by xtraflossy
On a side note (actually the Mallrats comment should technically be the sidenote): This log should be interesting considering I just bought some Anagen to test out. I like how you are mainly focusing on just the ECDY, though, since I think too many logs add in too many other factors that detract away from seeing if the supplement actually works.
05-06-2006 11:59 PM
good luck man..I'ma try this stuff to..
05-07-2006 03:39 PM
I noticed I slept better, recovered ALOT faster and seemed to just see my weight on the scale keep creeping up on 800mg of Syntrax's ecdysterone. I've give their stuff a shot i was impressed, my skin and hair also looked healthier.
05-07-2006 05:06 PM
800, damn. I am only taking in (5 caps) at 167mg [standardized to 100mg] a day. I guess I will see how I do with that. Maybe I should look for some bulk ecdy or find some higher potency stuff. But I guess if I can see gains off of Anagen then thats good too.
Originally Posted by CHAPS
05-08-2006 09:58 AM
Look at my earlier posts, I listed a pretty cheap brand, high in the doses.
Originally Posted by dontknowaboutme
Apparently, better results are being seen in doses of a gram plus.
On another note, due to unforseen circumstances Im cutting this log short.
I was doing this log until the H-50 clones became available, and I got mine in the mail on Friday.
What really gets me is yes, there arn't too many logs on ECDY alone, and I happy to help in this respect.
While I cant give any definitive results, I cant exclude the potential it seems to have.
I still have some left over, and Im hoping on only doing 2 weeks of H- (that I can get decent weight gain in 2 weeks. My feeling is with these orals, the best thing to do is get in and get out as soon as you can.)
I will continue this log (essentually start a new one here I guess) in a few weeks.
This will help because I'll be extending my bulking into PCT, and starting the ECDY about a week into it. So, well see what it can do then.
Again, really sorry to cut things short.
05-08-2006 11:06 AM
flossy when are you starting the H-clone i'm really interested in that one
05-08-2006 11:20 AM
ok man goodluck with ur clone. yeah maybe try ur ecdy post cycle. or even after ur pct. who knows wat will happen. u might find a good anti-catabolic to run after a cycle to help keep more gains. i think it would be a good experiement to run some methoxy during pct and after pct as well to see if it has further anti-catabolic and anabolic properities to help keep gains and maintain solidness. Just a thought peace. lemme know how things wokout
05-08-2006 11:39 AM
So from the looks of it you aren't liking this stuff too much? I like it as a possible addition to a cutter but nothing more.
05-08-2006 11:42 AM
Originally Posted by lilman
I definately have enough Methoxy for that!
I started my first cap of my H-MAX Friday evening. So, the first full day was Saturday. Today being Monday, I have not yet jumped on the scale.
I dont like to look at hte numbers for the first 4 days or so,.. Did that with SD (being the first anabolic that I tried out of the new batch and didnt expect it to work- after 3 days, I was up 3lbs!
I was thinking of logging it, although I have a feeling that H-clone logs will be in abundence here pretty soon.
I have a locker full of other things, I could add ANYTHING if I wanted to. Now, Im currently also running 100mg Zol with it.
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