Doggz's Super Herbal Double Astroid Stack!

[doggzj]

Hello everyone. I wanted to get this thread up. I'd like to here comments and thoughts.

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Starting May 15th, this is the stack i'm running. I'm posting this log for fun mostly, because not only will it be hard for me to tell which product is working or not, it's also very expensive. I hope it can be at least of entertainment value.

It is important to know that this log will start during my 3rd week of PCT. It is possible my start will be slower then it should be.

For me though, I see a lot of promising products on the market, and I want to see how well they work together. Each product has it's roll with only a few overlapping.

Breakdown:

2 caps of Rebound XT
8 caps of ActivaTe
10 caps of Powerfull
10 caps of Symmetry
10 caps of Anagen

and my own herbal blend from BAC

300mg LJ100:1
800mg Avena Sativa
800mg Trib

I might have went over the top, but it will be interesting none the less.

Dosing breakdown by time (UPDATED 5/19):


11 am BEFORE BREAKFAST

4 Powerful
4 Symmetry
1/2 dose of Herbal blend
2 ActivaTe

11:15 am With Breakfast
1 Rebound XT
2 Anagen

12:30 pm Mid Morning meal (preworkout 1)
2 Anagen

3:45 pm BEFORE midafternoon meal
2 ActivaTe

4 pm Mid Afternoon meal
1 Anagen

7:30 pm Before Preworkout2
4 Powerful
4 Symmetry
2 ActivaTe
1/2 dose of Herbal blend

7:45 pm Preworkout2
2 Anagen

10 pm Post workout 2
2 Anagen
2 ActivaTe

1:45 am Pre Nightmeal
2 Powerfull
2 Symmetry

2 am Night Meal
1 Anagen
1 Rebound XT


Also, I use Omegas Thunder/Evolution before each workout.

That's all for now. I'd love to get some feedback before I begin.

[doggzj]

Oh yea...

I'm working out twice per day, but keeping sets around 16 per day. This lets my energy stay high for all my sets. My Weight hopefully is around 215, but I won't know until then obviously.

[brickt.]

Two words. Holy and crap! That is an insane stack.

[D@LABS]

Oh yea...

I'm workingout out twice per day, but keeping sets around 16 per day. This lets my energy stay high for all my sets. My Weight hopefully is around 215, but I won't know until then obviously.

looks like a pretty solid stack!!! i would add 5 grams of creatine a day to it, and you should pretty much be set- also, take a dose of powerfull before bed- it will enhance endogenous gh stores and give you a deeper, more restful sleep

[BigVrunga]

Ill be watching this one!

BV

[thesinner]

If it was possible to overkill in this sport, this would be it.


Keep in mind that it's not the herb, but the active compound within the herb. By stacking different herbs that have anabolic effects through the same active compounds, well, I don't quite understand the point. Why bother getting saponins from Trib, when you're already getting them from Powerfull. Why not just take more Powerfull or more Trib?

[BigVrunga]

Looks like he got the Trib/Avena in bulk and is using it to augment the stack. He's probably trying to save a little dough, plus homebrewing is fun

If it was possible to overkill in this sport, this would be it.

I think overkill would be more like a 52 week anadrol cycle, but hey you know what they say about opinions

BV

[thesinner]

I think overkill would be more like a 52 week anadrol cycle

That's not overkill, that's saying goodbye to your endocrine system.

I'm just saying that getting the same active compound from multiple sources is pointless. He should really look into that one; otherwise, he's just wasting $$$$

[doggzj]

I'm pretty sure there are alot of different compounds in the herbs. PowerFull is the one I know the least about, but it seemed to have decent feedback and showed ability to improve results with larger doses.

If the compounds in trib and powerfull are the exact same (which I'm not sure they are, they are different herbs), then I'm pretty sure that we don't know the ceiling of effectiveness for them. For all we know 40 powerfull a day is the maximum your body can use. I'm interested in doing this because we don't have a lot of studies on these products and I've never seen anyone use large doses of multiple products.

[Grunt76]

Dude, I'm all over your log. Not only is this something I've been wanting to see, it looks like you have all the angles covered. Twice. I, for one, love that idea. I don't call it overkill, I call it a REAL MAN'S NHA STACK

EDIT: Please, please, please, DO provide starting strength measures as well as body measurements. Pics if at all possible. Before, and After. I'm sure this stack will do you incredible good. When you think about it, since less than 5% of your total test is active at any given time, upping SHBG can bring that up to... Theoretically 100% but let's say 50%... That's a ten-fold rise in testosterone. Don't tell me that's not close to an injectables cycle...

[dtrain13]

Dude, I'm all over your log. Not only is this something I've been wanting to see, it looks like you have all the angles covered. Twice. I, for one, love that idea. I don't call it overkill, I call it a REAL MAN'S NHA STACK

EDIT: Please, please, please, DO provide starting strength measures as well as body measurements. Pics if at all possible. Before, and After. I'm sure this stack will do you incredible good. When you think about it, since less than 5% of your total test is active at any given time, upping SHBG can bring that up to... Theoretically 100% but let's say 50%... That's a ten-fold rise in testosterone. Don't tell me that's not close to an injectables cycle...

BUMP to this whole post. Looks awesome man!!!

[doggzj]

Dude, I'm all over your log. Not only is this something I've been wanting to see, it looks like you have all the angles covered. Twice. I, for one, love that idea. I don't call it overkill, I call it a REAL MAN'S NHA STACK

EDIT: Please, please, please, DO provide starting strength measures as well as body measurements. Pics if at all possible. Before, and After. I'm sure this stack will do you incredible good. When you think about it, since less than 5% of your total test is active at any given time, upping SHBG can bring that up to... Theoretically 100% but let's say 50%... That's a ten-fold rise in testosterone. Don't tell me that's not close to an injectables cycle...

I can do strength and all body measurements. For the time being I want to remain anonymous so I'd rather avoid pictures. For strength I plan on changing up my workouts, and I also do somewhat of TuT, so these might not be that indictive (because hey, obviously I'll gain strength doing something I haven't in months)

[BigVrunga]

EDIT: Please, please, please, DO provide starting strength measures as well as body measurements. Pics if at all possible. Before, and After. I'm sure this stack will do you incredible good. When you think about it, since less than 5% of your total test is active at any given time, upping SHBG can bring that up to... Theoretically 100% but let's say 50%... That's a ten-fold rise in testosterone. Don't tell me that's not close to an injectables cycle...

LOL I doubt you'd see effects on that level! Not saying its impossible. In fact I sure do HOPE its possible with non-hormonal products. Something tells me that pesky HPTA is going to find a way to self-regulate though.

BV

[Grunt76]

LOL I doubt you'd see effects on that level! Not saying its impossible. In fact I sure do HOPE its possible with non-hormonal products. Something tells me that pesky HPTA is going to find a way to self-regulate though.

BV

I agree it should be suppressive. And yet, 50mg ATD is a pretty good countermeasure IMO. We'll just have to see huh? I'm not the only one who's a little excited at the potential of what you're doing, doggzj.

[BigVrunga]

I agree it should be suppressive. And yet, 50mg ATD is a pretty good countermeasure IMO. We'll just have to see huh? I'm not the only one who's a little excited at the potential of what you're doing, doggzj.

I ran a similar stack last month. w/o the anagen and Activate, and about half the dose of Symmetry and Powerful. It worked very well - even in a caloric defecit I gained a little strength while losing BF. I can only imagine Doggzj's results will be even better.

BV

[doggzj]

You guys don't give enough credit too the lj/AS/Trib blend. If I had to use only a few of the products, this would definitaly be one of them I'd use

I'll see if I can't build my workout program later this evening to give a bigger overview.

edit: I'm going to see how my sternum heals, might be awhile before I know what type of workout split I'll be on

[wideguy]

Entertaining :-)

[Beowulf]

Damn, Doggzj, I don't know how I missed this one. VERY INTERESTING. Bump to Grunt and BV's comments. I'm looking forward to seeing how this will unfold.

[sublimejeh]

Definitly subscribed! great idea for a log! give us some detailed measurement updates throughout it! I would love to see how much change is actually noticed!

[CHAPS]

40 pills a day jesus, lol.