Methoxy TST/ Mega TRN log!!

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  1. Methoxy TST/ Mega TRN log!!


    In the supplement industryas of late these are the two most talked and discuss products. I think more so cause their potent effects and the fact that no one really knows about them. So I will be the gineua pig.

    Current:
    ~22yrs old
    185lb +/-
    5'8"
    (I'll post measurments as soon as I get my tape.)

    My goal for the cycle is to get 190 and maintain my 9-10%bf. Im still clean bulking. My diet looks something like this:
    1.
    7 eggs(5white,2whole)
    1.5c oats with sugar free rasberry preserve
    1 banana/apple

    2.
    8oz chicken breast
    2c cooked brown rice (or a large baked pot.)

    3.
    1 scoop whey
    1 scoop casein
    and 3table spoons natural PB

    4.
    6oz. turkey breast(deli,low sod.fat free) or 1 can tuna
    on Health nut bread w/ pepperjack cheese

    5.
    (pwo) 50g whey/ 80g dextrose.

    6.
    1c oats
    1 cup cottage cheese
    1 light yogurt (all mixed)

    So thats abouttt (more or less)
    3300kcals
    275g pro
    400g cho
    50gs fat

    I will be supplementing with a mulit, protein, no flush niacin, digestive enzymes, multi-oil formula, milk thistle, and vitC.

    I will be taking 6mg Methoxy TST
    4mg Mega TRN

    I have Nolvadex in case either compound causes any flares.

    I will start monday. I will try and update this a few times a week. I think 5 keepable pounds is more than reasonable given what the "said potency" of these two products are.
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  2. Sounds good bro keep us updated.

  3. Subscrababba-dabba-dooed (haha I stole that from BpMartyr..hope he doesn't see this)...
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  4. My workouts will look like this for the next month just made em up..

    Mon.: Chest+abs
    DB Flat Bench Press 5* - 16,8,6,4,6
    Incline DB Press 4 - 10,6,6,8
    DB Flye 4 - 8,6,6,8
    Hanging Knee Raise 3 - 20,20,20
    Reverse crunches 3 - 20,20,20

    Tues.: Back+ Calves
    Front Pulldown 4 - 10,8,8,10
    Tbar Row 5* - 12,6,6,8,10
    One-arm DB Row 3 - 6,6,8
    Reverse-Grip Bentover Row 2 - 12,12
    Standing Calf Raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
    Seated Calf Raise 4 - 12,10,10,10

    Wed.: Arms
    Standing BB curl 5* - 12,10,10,6,8
    Seated Alt. DB curl 3 - 8,8,10
    Hammer Curl 3 - 8,8,10
    Lying Tricep Ext 5* - 12,10,6,6,8
    Weighted Dips 3 - 10,8,8
    Pressdowns 3 - 8,8,10

    Thursday: OFF!!

    Friday: Legs + abs
    Leg Press 5* - 10,8,6,6,10
    Hack Squat 4 - 10,8,8,10
    DB Lunge 4 - 15,15,15,15
    Leg Ext. 4 - 12,8,8,10
    Lying Leg Curl 4 - 10,6,6,8
    Stiff legged Deads 4* - 10,8,8,10
    Machine Cruches 3 - 20,20,20
    Roman Chair 3 - 20,20,20

    Sat.: Shoulders, Traps, Calves
    Overhead DB Press 4* - 10,8,6,8
    DB lateral raise 3 - 10,8,8
    DB front raise 3 - 10,8,8
    Bent-over Lateral raise 3 - 10,8,8
    DB shrugs 4 - 10,6,6,8
    Stand Calf raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
    Seated calf raise 4 - 12,10,10,10

    Sun.: OFF!! maybe some cardio if im bored, But I doubt it

    * Indicate warm-up set, light wieght not working set
    I'll post Numbers of the main lifts just to track my stregnth!

  5. 20 sets for back? 25 sets for legs? 13 sets for shoulders? Holy **** man, I know you'll be 'on' but IMO you should seriously consider taking some of those sets away...Plus IMO you definitely don't need to do 16 sets of calves split up over two days..If you are going to hit them twice a week, do like three sets each day..You are overkilling it man..Besides that good luck on your log..

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    20 sets for back? 25 sets for legs? 13 sets for shoulders? Holy **** man, I know you'll be 'on' but IMO you should seriously consider taking some of those sets away...Plus IMO you definitely don't need to do 16 sets of calves split up over two days..If you are going to hit them twice a week, do like three sets each day..You are overkilling it man..Besides that good luck on your log..

    Ok I went a bit over-board Ill change it up.
    My legs and my calves respond pretty well, so I;m not sweating it.

  7. Just an FYI, I'll be doing this exact same cycle, probably starting Monday as well...

  8. You going to use it to bulk or cut????

  9. I dont see anything wrong with his workout plan. It's not like he is doing all big compound movements. I think he should be fine unless he starts to feel a little bit over worked. Just my two cents...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by thedon3534
    I dont see anything wrong with his workout plan. It's not like he is doing all big compound movements. I think he should be fine unless he starts to feel a little bit over worked. Just my two cents...
    You're right 20 and 25 sets respectively is actually pretty low volume.....

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    20 sets for back? 25 sets for legs? 13 sets for shoulders? Holy **** man, I know you'll be 'on' but IMO you should seriously consider taking some of those sets away...Plus IMO you definitely don't need to do 16 sets of calves split up over two days..If you are going to hit them twice a week, do like three sets each day..You are overkilling it man..Besides that good luck on your log..
    Dude you have no clue what youre talking about, back should have more sets than any other body part considering its size and complexity. Shoulders, well you do 3 diff exercises with 1 warm up and 3 working and you're at 12 sets right there, which is nothing. Legs, thats fine as well, and his calves could easily handle 3X a week.

    THATS natural. Add the fact that he's on cycle and this is minimal imho. Please dont f with a guy who seems to have a pretty good idea how to train

    EDIT: After looking over his split, I would add more exercises to almost everything, but esp. Chest

  12. Quote Originally Posted by GoFast
    Dude you have no clue what youre talking about, back should have more sets than any other body part considering its size and complexity. Shoulders, well you do 3 diff exercises with 1 warm up and 3 working and you're at 12 sets right there, which is nothing. Legs, thats fine as well, and his calves could easily handle 3X a week.

    THATS natural. Add the fact that he's on cycle and this is minimal imho. Please dont f with a guy who seems to have a pretty good idea how to train

    EDIT: After looking over his split, I would add more exercises to almost everything, but esp. Chest
    I'm not going to dignify your ignorance past this response so don't respond, as I don't want to cloud Andre's log any further..Anyways, to the point, you are ridiculous. If you think 20 sets on back is MINIMAL you should SEVERELY alter your whole concept of weightlifting. Hijack over, continue..

  13. Aright, enough with the useless e-fighting.. I'm anxious to see how this cycle goes... Now that M-TST is out, I'm looking into this cycle. Possibly for my next.. Good Luck bro!
    *subscribed*

  14. Thanks, I wrote up that routine as I have stuck to the one I had for the past 6 weeks.

    Its NEVER set in stone I usually adjust it to how I feel, whether or not i can finish the sets with the right weight and proper form ultimatly determines what it will look like.

  15. Subscribed. Lookin great man. I just want to add a quick tidbit about training while "on". The ability for your skeletal muscle tissue to recover will be enhanced yes but your CNS will not. Seeing that you are bulking very lean your kcals will be very close to maintenance as opposed to a large surplus in a typical bulk where some fat gain is commonplace so you will have a lower margin of error. That being said, a lower volume routine may very well give you the right stimulation to obtain significant hypertrophy without over training your CNS causing burnout and stalling gains. "Stimulate, not annihilate." IMO
    Recent log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213350-lean-efx-refined.html

  16. Yea the kcals listed are typical workout days. Rest days the break down is something like :
    3600kcals
    300g pro
    500g cho
    70gs fat

  17. Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre
    Yea the kcals listed are typical workout days. Rest days the break down is something like :
    3600kcals
    300g pro
    500g cho
    70gs fat
    And by 500g of cho, Im assuming chocolate

    Looking forward to your log, everything looks good to me. Your training volume will depend on your individual needs. Some people respond to volume better than others. Head some of the veterans advice, but ultimately it is your log and you need to train according to your body. Best of luck, I'll be watchin.

    Sky

  18. Subscribed bro- I just got my shipment in i'll be checking in often- best of luck!

  19. Ok so I started yesterday, but I didnt work out yesterday.

    My workout today was nuts. I was stoked to be on something and hit chest real hard.

    I think I will log my sets just to track my stregnth gains.

    Chest
    Bench Press 5 sets
    12-reps 90lbs
    8-180lbs
    6-230lbs
    4-250lbs
    8-200lbs

    Incline BB press 4 sets
    10-reps 105lbs
    6-170lbs
    6-160lbs
    8-160lbs

    DB Flye 4 sets
    8reps- 20's
    6- 30's
    6- 35's
    8- 30's

    This is the first time I used barbells and did DB flyes so it'll be cool to track my stregnth gains.

    Im taking 6mgs(3caps)m-tst
    4mgs(2caps)m-trn

    The one thing I did notice is maybe it was my stomach Like food I ate but I did notice wicked cramps It seems to upset my stomeach but I cant tell for sure what it is Ill keep you guys updated though.

  20. That could just be an upset stomach from your increased amount of protein..At the start of any bulk for me when my protein amounts go through the roof my stomach starts to cramp bad...

  21. Yea maybe time will tel for sure though

  22. Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre
    My workouts will look like this for the next month just made em up..

    Mon.: Chest+abs
    DB Flat Bench Press 5* - 16,8,6,4,6
    Incline DB Press 4 - 10,6,6,8
    DB Flye 4 - 8,6,6,8
    Hanging Knee Raise 3 - 20,20,20
    Reverse crunches 3 - 20,20,20

    Tues.: Back+ Calves
    Front Pulldown 4 - 10,8,8,10
    Tbar Row 5* - 12,6,6,8,10
    One-arm DB Row 3 - 6,6,8
    Reverse-Grip Bentover Row 2 - 12,12
    Standing Calf Raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
    Seated Calf Raise 4 - 12,10,10,10

    Wed.: Arms
    Standing BB curl 5* - 12,10,10,6,8
    Seated Alt. DB curl 3 - 8,8,10
    Hammer Curl 3 - 8,8,10
    Lying Tricep Ext 5* - 12,10,6,6,8
    Weighted Dips 3 - 10,8,8
    Pressdowns 3 - 8,8,10

    Thursday: OFF!!

    Friday: Legs + abs
    Leg Press 5* - 10,8,6,6,10
    Hack Squat 4 - 10,8,8,10
    DB Lunge 4 - 15,15,15,15
    Leg Ext. 4 - 12,8,8,10
    Lying Leg Curl 4 - 10,6,6,8
    Stiff legged Deads 4* - 10,8,8,10
    Machine Cruches 3 - 20,20,20
    Roman Chair 3 - 20,20,20

    Sat.: Shoulders, Traps, Calves
    Overhead DB Press 4* - 10,8,6,8
    DB lateral raise 3 - 10,8,8
    DB front raise 3 - 10,8,8
    Bent-over Lateral raise 3 - 10,8,8
    DB shrugs 4 - 10,6,6,8
    Stand Calf raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
    Seated calf raise 4 - 12,10,10,10

    Sun.: OFF!! maybe some cardio if im bored, But I doubt it

    * Indicate warm-up set, light wieght not working set
    I'll post Numbers of the main lifts just to track my stregnth!
    You know, looking closer at this, I do not believe you are using too much volume if your body can handle it.

    Last nights back and Hammy workout for me was:
    Deadlift: 230*6, 320*6, 370*2, 320*8
    DB Rows: 85*6, 105*6, 110*6, 110*6
    Close Grip Pulldown: 150*6, 160*6, 160*6, 160*6
    Leg Curl: 110*6, 130*6, 150*6, 150*6
    Close Grip Rows: 140*6, 150*6, 160*8
    Wide Grip Pull Up: Body Weight*10,15,12

    This is typical for me and I do not overtrain. Usually I switch my routines very drastically: HST, Max-OT, Push Pull Legs, and circuit training routines. However, when training my latest program I need the volume and my body responds well to it.
    Monday - Back, Hammy's
    Tuesday - Chest
    Wednesday - Legs
    Thursday - Traps, Bi's
    Friday - Shoulders, Tri's

    I think your routine may just fit the bill, if your body can handle it.

  23. Sky9 --- Yea I did chest yesterday and I loved switching from DB's to BB's cause I havent in a while... The workout I designed was more or less to bring up my weaker points, and if I feel its to taxing on CNS then ill clean it up a bit... but thanks for your imput.

  24. Anabolic, I personally like the workout plan. Overtraining is something, IMO, that is person specific. Some people migh respond one way, another might respond another way...

    I really can't wait to see what your gains look like, i.e., how dry or wet and how much lean mass you end up putting on during and keeping through the pct.

    and dude, i love working out abs and calves, sometimes i hit them every day for a few weeks straight!!!

    Best of luck!

  25. Day 3:

    Today was BACK and CALVES:

    Front Pulldowns
    10 reps- 40lbs
    8- 50lbs
    8- 70lbs
    10- 60lbs

    T-bar Rows
    6 reps- 125lbs
    6- 150lbs
    8- 125lbs

    1-arm DB rows
    6 reps- 75lbs
    6- 80lbs
    8- 70lbs

    Reverse Grip Bent over rows
    12 reps- 150lbs
    12- 175lbs

    Seated Cable Rows-
    6 reps- 150
    6- 180
    8- 150

    Stand calve raises-
    12 reps- 210lbs
    12- 250lbs
    12- 300lbs

    Seated Calve raises-
    12reps- 90lbs
    12- 135lbs
    12- 170lbs

    My workout was so intense. My number dont seem that high, but its cool cause im honest and really do try and get the strictest form with the heviest weight possible. Maybe its cause my diet has been so good, it fueled my workout and gave me the energy to hit it hard. My chest is sore as **** from yesterday which is good. Its only the 3rd day so I cant really tell the efects of this stuff yet. I will try and Update this everyday.

  26. awesome finally a trn/tst log! subscribing

  27. 4/5/06

    Arms

    Standing BB Curl(olympic bar)
    10reps -65lbs
    6 -85lbs
    6 -105lbs
    8 -85lbs

    Seated alt. DB Curl
    10reps -30lbs
    8 -35lbs
    10 -35lbs

    Hammer Curls
    10reps -40lbs
    8 -45lbs
    10 -40lbs

    Lying Tricep ext.(v-bar)
    10reps -85lbs
    6 -105lbs
    6 -95lbs
    8 -85lbs

    Machine Dips
    10reps -90lbs
    8 -160lbs
    8 -180lbs

    Pressdowns
    10reps -90lbs
    8 -110lbs
    8 -130lbs

    Ok maybe by now (6am of day 5), I might be starting to feel the effects. The past two nights, I have had a hard time getting a full nights sleep like after 4-5hours, I just toss and turn for the next 3 or so hours. Last night (well I just woke up) and I def. had some wicked night sweats. I have never been on TREN, but it was everything from my feet to my back.

    On a side note my diet has been really good, my training WAY INTENSE(I think finally being on something has got me focused), and I'm really excercising the strictest for with the heaviest weight possible.

  28. 4/6/06(day 5)

    Much needed OFF DAY!

    It might be the introduction of new compounds to my body, but man I'm sore as ****.

    ****Also the GI cramping, gone!!

  29. Keep it going bro- Are you taking any sleep aids? Melatonin, valerian or anything? That would probably help.

  30. Sub!
    -Looking forward to your progress!

  31. subscribe

  32. Quote Originally Posted by Sea223
    Keep it going bro- Are you taking any sleep aids? Melatonin, valerian or anything? That would probably help.
    hahah yea hows 50mg benadryl

    has me staring at the screen like this

  33. Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre
    hahah yea hows 50mg benadryl

    has me staring at the screen like this
    Yeah I'd def say that's a sleep aid. You're still having trouble sleeping with that? I don't know what else to tell ya except Good luck - we all know the more sleep you can get the more you'll recover.

  34. I took thursday and Friday off. Time to hit the gym I think by day 7 I should really notice something as far as stregnth.

    LEGS!!!!!

    woo wooo

  35. Oh and I know everyone wants to know what happens to your sex drive.... right......

    LETS JUST SAY Im ready to bang anything that walks...

  36. Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre
    Oh and I know everyone wants to know what happens to your sex drive.... right......

    LETS JUST SAY Im ready to bang anything that walks...
    always a great side...

  37. This should be interesting; so no feeling of water bloat so far?
    ---The internet is the father of the electronic lynch-mob---

  38. Wow man good luck with the log keep us posted for sure.
    i cant wait to try my m-tst

  39. Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr
    Subscribed. Lookin great man. I just want to add a quick tidbit about training while "on". The ability for your skeletal muscle tissue to recover will be enhanced yes but your CNS will not.
    I personally think thats why a lot of people get fatigue mid way into a cycle. They are pushing the volume and intensity up, their muscles are growing like crazy, but their body is so busy trying to keep up its running out of gas.
  

  
 

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