Methoxy TST/ Mega TRN log!!
- 03-31-2006, 12:38 PM
Methoxy TST/ Mega TRN log!!
In the supplement industryas of late these are the two most talked and discuss products. I think more so cause their potent effects and the fact that no one really knows about them. So I will be the gineua pig.
(I'll post measurments as soon as I get my tape.)
My goal for the cycle is to get 190 and maintain my 9-10%bf. Im still clean bulking. My diet looks something like this:
1.5c oats with sugar free rasberry preserve
8oz chicken breast
2c cooked brown rice (or a large baked pot.)
1 scoop whey
1 scoop casein
and 3table spoons natural PB
6oz. turkey breast(deli,low sod.fat free) or 1 can tuna
on Health nut bread w/ pepperjack cheese
(pwo) 50g whey/ 80g dextrose.
1 cup cottage cheese
1 light yogurt (all mixed)
So thats abouttt (more or less)
I will be supplementing with a mulit, protein, no flush niacin, digestive enzymes, multi-oil formula, milk thistle, and vitC.
I will be taking 6mg Methoxy TST
4mg Mega TRN
I have Nolvadex in case either compound causes any flares.
I will start monday. I will try and update this a few times a week. I think 5 keepable pounds is more than reasonable given what the "said potency" of these two products are.
- 03-31-2006, 12:42 PM
- 03-31-2006, 12:46 PM
03-31-2006, 01:07 PM
My workouts will look like this for the next month just made em up..
DB Flat Bench Press 5* - 16,8,6,4,6
Incline DB Press 4 - 10,6,6,8
DB Flye 4 - 8,6,6,8
Hanging Knee Raise 3 - 20,20,20
Reverse crunches 3 - 20,20,20
Tues.: Back+ Calves
Front Pulldown 4 - 10,8,8,10
Tbar Row 5* - 12,6,6,8,10
One-arm DB Row 3 - 6,6,8
Reverse-Grip Bentover Row 2 - 12,12
Standing Calf Raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
Seated Calf Raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
Standing BB curl 5* - 12,10,10,6,8
Seated Alt. DB curl 3 - 8,8,10
Hammer Curl 3 - 8,8,10
Lying Tricep Ext 5* - 12,10,6,6,8
Weighted Dips 3 - 10,8,8
Pressdowns 3 - 8,8,10
Friday: Legs + abs
Leg Press 5* - 10,8,6,6,10
Hack Squat 4 - 10,8,8,10
DB Lunge 4 - 15,15,15,15
Leg Ext. 4 - 12,8,8,10
Lying Leg Curl 4 - 10,6,6,8
Stiff legged Deads 4* - 10,8,8,10
Machine Cruches 3 - 20,20,20
Roman Chair 3 - 20,20,20
Sat.: Shoulders, Traps, Calves
Overhead DB Press 4* - 10,8,6,8
DB lateral raise 3 - 10,8,8
DB front raise 3 - 10,8,8
Bent-over Lateral raise 3 - 10,8,8
DB shrugs 4 - 10,6,6,8
Stand Calf raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
Seated calf raise 4 - 12,10,10,10
Sun.: OFF!! maybe some cardio if im bored, But I doubt it
* Indicate warm-up set, light wieght not working set
I'll post Numbers of the main lifts just to track my stregnth!
03-31-2006, 01:13 PM
20 sets for back? 25 sets for legs? 13 sets for shoulders? Holy **** man, I know you'll be 'on' but IMO you should seriously consider taking some of those sets away...Plus IMO you definitely don't need to do 16 sets of calves split up over two days..If you are going to hit them twice a week, do like three sets each day..You are overkilling it man..Besides that good luck on your log..
03-31-2006, 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
Ok I went a bit over-board Ill change it up.
My legs and my calves respond pretty well, so I;m not sweating it.
03-31-2006, 02:35 PM
03-31-2006, 03:08 PM
03-31-2006, 04:42 PM
03-31-2006, 04:56 PM
I dont see anything wrong with his workout plan. It's not like he is doing all big compound movements. I think he should be fine unless he starts to feel a little bit over worked. Just my two cents...
03-31-2006, 04:59 PM
You're right 20 and 25 sets respectively is actually pretty low volume.....Originally Posted by thedon3534
03-31-2006, 06:56 PM
Dude you have no clue what youre talking about, back should have more sets than any other body part considering its size and complexity. Shoulders, well you do 3 diff exercises with 1 warm up and 3 working and you're at 12 sets right there, which is nothing. Legs, thats fine as well, and his calves could easily handle 3X a week.Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
THATS natural. Add the fact that he's on cycle and this is minimal imho. Please dont f with a guy who seems to have a pretty good idea how to train
EDIT: After looking over his split, I would add more exercises to almost everything, but esp. Chest
03-31-2006, 07:03 PM
I'm not going to dignify your ignorance past this response so don't respond, as I don't want to cloud Andre's log any further..Anyways, to the point, you are ridiculous. If you think 20 sets on back is MINIMAL you should SEVERELY alter your whole concept of weightlifting. Hijack over, continue..Originally Posted by GoFast
03-31-2006, 10:14 PM
Aright, enough with the useless e-fighting.. I'm anxious to see how this cycle goes... Now that M-TST is out, I'm looking into this cycle. Possibly for my next.. Good Luck bro!
03-31-2006, 10:30 PM
Thanks, I wrote up that routine as I have stuck to the one I had for the past 6 weeks.
Its NEVER set in stone I usually adjust it to how I feel, whether or not i can finish the sets with the right weight and proper form ultimatly determines what it will look like.
03-31-2006, 11:43 PM
Subscribed. Lookin great man. I just want to add a quick tidbit about training while "on". The ability for your skeletal muscle tissue to recover will be enhanced yes but your CNS will not. Seeing that you are bulking very lean your kcals will be very close to maintenance as opposed to a large surplus in a typical bulk where some fat gain is commonplace so you will have a lower margin of error. That being said, a lower volume routine may very well give you the right stimulation to obtain significant hypertrophy without over training your CNS causing burnout and stalling gains. "Stimulate, not annihilate." IMO
04-01-2006, 02:08 AM
Yea the kcals listed are typical workout days. Rest days the break down is something like :
04-03-2006, 02:12 PM
And by 500g of cho, Im assuming chocolateOriginally Posted by anabolicandre
Looking forward to your log, everything looks good to me. Your training volume will depend on your individual needs. Some people respond to volume better than others. Head some of the veterans advice, but ultimately it is your log and you need to train according to your body. Best of luck, I'll be watchin.
04-03-2006, 09:40 PM
04-03-2006, 09:57 PM
Ok so I started yesterday, but I didnt work out yesterday.
My workout today was nuts. I was stoked to be on something and hit chest real hard.
I think I will log my sets just to track my stregnth gains.
Bench Press 5 sets
Incline BB press 4 sets
DB Flye 4 sets
This is the first time I used barbells and did DB flyes so it'll be cool to track my stregnth gains.
Im taking 6mgs(3caps)m-tst
The one thing I did notice is maybe it was my stomach Like food I ate but I did notice wicked cramps It seems to upset my stomeach but I cant tell for sure what it is Ill keep you guys updated though.
04-03-2006, 10:36 PM
That could just be an upset stomach from your increased amount of protein..At the start of any bulk for me when my protein amounts go through the roof my stomach starts to cramp bad...
04-03-2006, 10:54 PM
04-04-2006, 08:30 AM
You know, looking closer at this, I do not believe you are using too much volume if your body can handle it.Originally Posted by anabolicandre
Last nights back and Hammy workout for me was:
Deadlift: 230*6, 320*6, 370*2, 320*8
DB Rows: 85*6, 105*6, 110*6, 110*6
Close Grip Pulldown: 150*6, 160*6, 160*6, 160*6
Leg Curl: 110*6, 130*6, 150*6, 150*6
Close Grip Rows: 140*6, 150*6, 160*8
Wide Grip Pull Up: Body Weight*10,15,12
This is typical for me and I do not overtrain. Usually I switch my routines very drastically: HST, Max-OT, Push Pull Legs, and circuit training routines. However, when training my latest program I need the volume and my body responds well to it.
Monday - Back, Hammy's
Tuesday - Chest
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Traps, Bi's
Friday - Shoulders, Tri's
I think your routine may just fit the bill, if your body can handle it.
04-04-2006, 09:37 AM
Sky9 --- Yea I did chest yesterday and I loved switching from DB's to BB's cause I havent in a while... The workout I designed was more or less to bring up my weaker points, and if I feel its to taxing on CNS then ill clean it up a bit... but thanks for your imput.
04-04-2006, 10:16 AM
Anabolic, I personally like the workout plan. Overtraining is something, IMO, that is person specific. Some people migh respond one way, another might respond another way...
I really can't wait to see what your gains look like, i.e., how dry or wet and how much lean mass you end up putting on during and keeping through the pct.
and dude, i love working out abs and calves, sometimes i hit them every day for a few weeks straight!!!
Best of luck!
04-04-2006, 06:26 PM
Today was BACK and CALVES:
10 reps- 40lbs
6 reps- 125lbs
1-arm DB rows
6 reps- 75lbs
Reverse Grip Bent over rows
12 reps- 150lbs
Seated Cable Rows-
6 reps- 150
Stand calve raises-
12 reps- 210lbs
Seated Calve raises-
My workout was so intense. My number dont seem that high, but its cool cause im honest and really do try and get the strictest form with the heviest weight possible. Maybe its cause my diet has been so good, it fueled my workout and gave me the energy to hit it hard. My chest is sore as **** from yesterday which is good. Its only the 3rd day so I cant really tell the efects of this stuff yet. I will try and Update this everyday.
04-05-2006, 04:12 PM
04-06-2006, 06:16 AM
Standing BB Curl(olympic bar)
Seated alt. DB Curl
Lying Tricep ext.(v-bar)
Ok maybe by now (6am of day 5), I might be starting to feel the effects. The past two nights, I have had a hard time getting a full nights sleep like after 4-5hours, I just toss and turn for the next 3 or so hours. Last night (well I just woke up) and I def. had some wicked night sweats. I have never been on TREN, but it was everything from my feet to my back.
On a side note my diet has been really good, my training WAY INTENSE(I think finally being on something has got me focused), and I'm really excercising the strictest for with the heaviest weight possible.
04-06-2006, 06:17 AM
Much needed OFF DAY!
It might be the introduction of new compounds to my body, but man I'm sore as ****.
****Also the GI cramping, gone!!
04-06-2006, 02:54 PM
Keep it going bro- Are you taking any sleep aids? Melatonin, valerian or anything? That would probably help.
04-06-2006, 03:37 PM
04-06-2006, 10:00 PM
04-07-2006, 12:23 AM
04-07-2006, 12:58 AM
Yeah I'd def say that's a sleep aid. You're still having trouble sleeping with that? I don't know what else to tell ya except Good luck - we all know the more sleep you can get the more you'll recover.Originally Posted by anabolicandre
04-08-2006, 04:10 PM
I took thursday and Friday off. Time to hit the gym I think by day 7 I should really notice something as far as stregnth.
04-08-2006, 04:11 PM
Oh and I know everyone wants to know what happens to your sex drive.... right......
LETS JUST SAY Im ready to bang anything that walks...
04-08-2006, 06:56 PM
04-09-2006, 02:58 AM
This should be interesting; so no feeling of water bloat so far?
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04-09-2006, 08:47 AM
04-09-2006, 08:55 AM
I personally think thats why a lot of people get fatigue mid way into a cycle. They are pushing the volume and intensity up, their muscles are growing like crazy, but their body is so busy trying to keep up its running out of gas.Originally Posted by bpmartyr
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