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    Quote Originally Posted by hardknock
    This should be interesting; so no feeling of water bloat so far?

    Def a water bloat. Not real heavy cause my diet has been spot on for the past 7 but still...

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    im going to be doing the same stack but along with finagenx,should be a good stack ,wat do yall think
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    I'm on trn,sd, and fini..**** should be great. I'm on a new kinda way to do it I take weekends off no ph's..i read it should be less stress on liver and i can stay on longer..I take product x while on cycle wow i feel great right now lol..oh well good luck to all you guys.. have any of you guys thought like damn ph's are 20 bux and all tihs other **** ois like 60 promising ph like gains lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbody
    I'm on trn,sd, and fini..**** should be great. I'm on a new kinda way to do it I take weekends off no ph's..i read it should be less stress on liver and i can stay on longer..I take product x while on cycle wow i feel great right now lol..oh well good luck to all you guys.. have any of you guys thought like damn ph's are 20 bux and all tihs other **** ois like 60 promising ph like gains lol..
    Ummmm...are you saying you do NOT take the chemicals during the weekends? If that's the case, I would highly recommend you stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbody
    I'm on trn,sd, and fini..**** should be great. I'm on a new kinda way to do it I take weekends off no ph's..i read it should be less stress on liver and i can stay on longer..
    if you have a link to that, i'd love to read it. I have never heard of anything like this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron
    if you have a link to that, i'd love to read it. I have never heard of anything like this...
    I remember reading this suggestion in an old thread, it was pertaining to M1T..However, I think the original suggestion was about honest to goodness AAS...Can't find it right now though...
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    Yea Im going to go ahead and agree with these guys, the idea when introducing exogenous hormones into your body is to maintain stable blood serum levels. you throw em out of wack, and side effects will be more pronounced.

    anywayyyyyyys....
    Im just going to post the major lifts here just to track stregnth gains. last week I wound up taking thursday and fri off. then hit legs on saturday. so legs:

    LEGS 4/8/06

    leg press
    445 for 6reps (max set)

    Hack squat
    225 for 8 reps (past parallel) (max set)

    Leg extension
    150 for 8 reps (full ext. with emphasis on negatives) (max set)

    DB LUNGE
    45lb DB's for 15 reps (15 each side)

    Romanian Deadlift
    325 for 8 reps (max set)

    *The pumps I had in my quads and hams we're actually painfull. Even my claves felt pumped. So i skipped out on the lying leg curls.

    ***Note its monday as I write this I worked out late Sat. afternoon and my quads are still a bit sore.
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    Monday 4/10/06

    Shoulders and Calves

    Overhead DB press
    55lb DB's for 6 reps (max set)

    DB laterl raise
    30lbs for 8 reps (max set)

    DB front raise
    40lbs for 8 reps (max set)

    Bent-over lateral raise
    25lbs for 8 reps (max set)

    Upright row
    80lb (on a BB) for 12 reps

    Db shrugs
    100lbs Db's for 10 reps (max set)

    Standing Calf raise
    190lbs for 12 reps (max set)

    Seated calf raise
    300lbs for 12 reps (max set)

    Had a really good workout, felt strong on a lot of the lifts. water retention seems to be subsiding. weight is up 4lbs to 186 from 182 at start of the cycle.
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    Andre-

    Could you talk a little bit about how you're feeling other than painfull pumps- lethargy, libido, etc. Great log so far keep it up.
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    Lethargy isnt really an issue, Libido is nice an high - meaning im hornier than usual.

    Pumps arent painfull until i get into the gym.

    My appetite seems to be ok.

    I did bloat initially, but the seemed to subside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre
    Lethargy isnt really an issue, Libido is nice an high - meaning im hornier than usual.

    Pumps arent painfull until i get into the gym.

    My appetite seems to be ok.

    I did bloat initially, but the seemed to subside.
    Thanks bro- what day are you on? How's your BP- how often do you check it?
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    I checked it at the start of the cycle is was 115/75 Ill check it tom. in class and let you know.

    I started april 2nd so today (4/11/06) is day 10
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    Andre, any discernable prostate side effects?

    Good log, keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 200wannabe
    Andre, any discernable prostate side effects?

    Good log, keep it up.
    Good question!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 200wannabe
    Andre, any discernable prostate side effects?

    Good log, keep it up.

    Not that I can tell. then again I havent been paying attention, but I willl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre
    Not that I can tell. then again I havent been paying attention, but I willl.
    Can you tell a difference when you're taking a leak (weaker urine stream, harder to pee) When I took M1T last year I could tell a little bit. You may not, because it was pretty obvious to me that I did.
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    Nahhh my piss does have a funny smell to it though.

    Acne is sporatic and my skin is a bit more oily.

    The headaches come and go.

    My BP is slightly elevated though.. 127/95 not real high or anything but higher than the start of the cycle, could be from stress or water retention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre

    My BP is slightly elevated though.. 127/95 not real high or anything but higher than the start of the cycle, could be from stress or water retention.
    I would def. continue to monitor your BP esp. diastolic and see where it goes from here.
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    Yea the diastolic is where the jump came.

    Once again I attribute it to the water retention... but I will monitor it every morning.
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    When I add potassium my diastolic goes down in a hurry. I suggest limiting sodium and increasing potassium see how that helps.
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    My diet has been pretty clean as far as sodium content.

    I think its the TST thats causing the bloat but im taking the two in conjunction so I cant really pinpoint what it is. bp today was about the same 125/95
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    My blood pressure was almost unchanged w/M-TRN. If the TST is wet at all, I would aim at that as causing the BP increase, as the additional water can raise your blood volume. Or TST could raise red blood cells, but I doubt that is it since (I think Mr. 50) said cardio actually declined a little bit.
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    Right thats why I layed the blame on the tst.

    The bloat isnt bad at all, actually I kinda like it I feel like my muscles are a bit fuller.

    today is day 11 and im lovin it, other than some slight acne and bit of bloat all is good!
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    How many pounds you up man? I bet you loven it haha.
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    Yes cardio has become more difficult for me while on the TST but blood pressure has remained within normal limits and weight has dropped while lbm has gone up. I would have expected an increase in cardio but there are really too many factors to consider here. Overall though the decrease in cardio endurance is pretty slight.

    Mr.50

    Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69
    My blood pressure was almost unchanged w/M-TRN. If the TST is wet at all, I would aim at that as causing the BP increase, as the additional water can raise your blood volume. Or TST could raise red blood cells, but I doubt that is it since (I think Mr. 50) said cardio actually declined a little bit.
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    Ok so a much needed update!!!!

    Between final papers and finals I havent been able to post much but lemme me break it down for you.

    Im about 16 days in. here is what I notice:

    Definite muscle hardness!
    Strength has gone up considerably
    No real change in recovery
    Water retention is slight BUT NOTICABLE.
    Sex drive is fairly the same.
    I do feel a bit lethargic outside of the gym.
    But my workouts are intense!!!
    My BP is elevated not too much, but none the less. (i'll blame this on the water retention)
    I am up 8-9lbs.

    Hope this helps you guys wanting to try TRN.

    Overall I'd say its a great supplement, how close it is to actual trenbolone I couldnt tell you.
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    I have been taking my BP at the local pharm on the way home from class as I havent been to work in the past 4 days but damn those arm cuffs are tiny.. and I dont think i can get an acurate reading from them today it was 137/66 systolic is borderline hypertensive. nothing to crazy Im not worried..
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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicandre
    I have been taking my BP at the local pharm on the way home from class as I havent been to work in the past 4 days but damn those arm cuffs are tiny.. and I dont think i can get an acurate reading from them today it was 137/66 systolic is borderline hypertensive. nothing to crazy Im not worried..
    Dude, get a proper reading, I cannot stress this enough.

    My last cycle I was getting my readings from the pharmacy as well, and they were like 110/55 which is kinda low. But I kept thinking "that's weird, I FEEL hypertensive..." So after a couple weeks of this, I go into another drugstore and there's a nurse right there ready to take BP readings, glycemia, and all that, for free... Got my real reading of 135/91. Which isn't awful high, but worthy of care.

    Bottom line, if the cuff is small, it may give you a totally wrong reading.
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    Bottom line, if the cuff is small, it may give you a totally wrong reading
    I'm an rn and i can tell you for sure a b/p cuff that is to small will give you a false reading be careful
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    Oh yea I realize that. Last time I got a proper reading was at work. I work in UPITT hospital ER and last time I got a legit reading was thursday, and it was 131/75 which is high for me. I want to attribute it to edema. But I drink well over a gallon of water daily, and my sodium intake is no where near the RDA so its def. the compound. I picked up some hawthorne berry over the weekend hopefully that helps.
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    I picked up some hawthorne berry over the weekend hopefully that helps
    .this has really helped me alot I use this year round now and add celery seed when on cycle. I had an issue with b/p last year during a m1t transderm 4ad cycle I thought I had all the bases covered with diet and ancillary supps etc one day driving home from work(I work as a nurse in a hospital) I passed the hell out driving my car on the highway ended up back at my hosp. in the er with elevated b/p and cpk levels that were 4 times norm It was the m1t not only raisied my b/p but my strength was crazy too much for my body to handle overtaxed myself did not check my b/p very often even though I knew it was a side of m1t, very reckless and stupid and the fact that I'm tripping over b/p monitors, other nurses and even docs all day makes it all the more rediculous anyway just a cautionary tale to say again be careful no post from you in a few days hope all is well
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    I'll never use m1t again. It's rat poison, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I'll never use m1t again. It's rat poison, imo.
    Can I hear an AMEN!



    I have a shizzit load of that crap left. I just sell it to people I don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I'll never use m1t again. It's rat poison, imo.
    I dumped several bottles in the garbage after my incident it was effective for strength gains but way to toxic never again, never used superdrol for the same reason too many c/o bad sides
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUCKNUTS
    I dumped several bottles in the garbage after my incident it was effective for strength gains but way to toxic never again, never used superdrol for the same reason too many c/o bad sides
    SD treats me well. I wouldn't compare the two myself. But hey, enough hijacking andre's thread!

    Keep up the good work on the log bro. Sorry to clutter it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I'll never use m1t again. It's rat poison, imo.
    yes i will have to agree but the gains in strength and size are incredable.
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    bump whats the conclusion of this cycle?
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    Hm, yeh, day 16 = last update?

    A conclusion would be good...
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    lol..See, this is a little off topic and not a personal slight on the Andre fella, but this is why companies usually defer to more senior members for product testing. Because they know they aren't going to write a few pages and then take off.
    Last edited by yeahright; 07-07-2006 at 11:34 PM.
  

  
 

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