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  1. USP Labs / Scivation Secret Lean Bulk Log


    Like sublimejeh, I'll also be keeping a lean bulk log while using a combo of usplabs and scivation products to test the synergistic effects of these products. Every tester seems to have gotten a slightly different mix of products so it should be interesting to compare the results of the the two logs.

    Current Stats
    Height: 5' 10"
    Weight: 187
    Age: 21
    waist: 33 1/2
    body fat ~12-13%
    chest: 44 1/4
    thigh: 23 3/4

    Diet: Im currently finishing up with Bobo's deluxe muscle building program, so I hope these additions to the program will help me to lean out my gains at the end of the program and possibley have a slight recomp effect. My diet will be approximately 4000 cal/day at a 40/40/20 split. Getting into any further details wouldn't be fair to Bobo so I'll leave it at that.

    Lifting: I'll be using a Tut routine with the following split.
    sunday: chest
    monday: back
    tuesday: off
    wednesday: tris
    thursday: legs
    friday: bis and shoulders
    saturday: off

    If I get an ok from usp I'll let you guys know what the stack will consist of. Otherwise I'll guess you'll just have to wait and see at the end of the log.

    I'll have pictures up hopefully tomorrow and this weekend at the latest.

    Comments, questions and suggestions welcome.


  2. did he say not to say the stack? i could have sworn he said there was no secret wehn i asked him in my email :/. uh oh i hope i didnt f*ck up !
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    Quote Originally Posted by bentlax39
    Like sublimejeh, I'll also be keeping a lean bulk log while using a combo of usplabs and scivation products to test the synergistic effects of these products. Every tester seems to have gotten a slightly different mix of products so it should be interesting to compare the results of the the two logs.

    Current Stats
    Height: 5' 10"
    Weight: 187
    Age: 21
    waist: 33 1/2
    body fat ~12-13%
    chest: 44 1/4
    thigh: 23 3/4

    Diet: Im currently finishing up with Bobo's deluxe muscle building program, so I hope these additions to the program will help me to lean out my gains at the end of the program and possibley have a slight recomp effect. My diet will be approximately 4000 cal/day at a 40/40/20 split. Getting into any further details wouldn't be fair to Bobo so I'll leave it at that.

    Lifting: I'll be using a Tut routine with the following split.
    sunday: chest
    monday: back
    tuesday: off
    wednesday: tris
    thursday: legs
    friday: bis and shoulders
    saturday: off

    If I get an ok from usp I'll let you guys know what the stack will consist of. Otherwise I'll guess you'll just have to wait and see at the end of the log.

    I'll have pictures up hopefully tomorrow and this weekend at the latest.

    Comments, questions and suggestions welcome.
    Guys stack can be revealed...

  4. phew... I felt real bad for a few mins USP i thot i messed it up for ya! well, glad i started it right haha
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  6. Good Luck!

  7. the stack will include
    USP camphibolic
    USP c2
    Scivation Lipid FX
    Scivation Sesamin

    The dosing protocol will be as follows:

    pre workout meal

    3 pills c2 15 minutes before workout

    Workout

    post workout meal

    meal #3 with 2 camph, 1 sesamin and 1 Lipid FX(1/2 dose)

    meal #4 with 1 sesamin

    meal#5 with 1 sesamin and 1 Lipid FX (1/2 dose)

    pre-bed meal with 2 camph

    Dosing rationale:
    I will take the C2 pre workout since it has caffeine unlike the camph, therefore I believe it will have more of a stim effect.

    The camph being the "night time thermobolic makes logical sense to dose before bed

    As for the dosing of the camph midday, I had the option of either camph or C2 at this time. I'll start with the camph and then probably switch to c2 midday halfway through to see if i notice any difference

    The sesamin is following the regular dosing protocol

    The lipd fx i decided to take 2 half dosages instead of two full dosages since i am lean bulking and not cutting. With the main ingredient being TTA, like Designer's Melting Point I decided to take Robboe's advice for TTA while bulking. In the Melting point faq, robboe suggests a half dose for lean bulking so I will start with the half dosage of lipid fx and see how it works out.
    Last edited by bentlax39; 03-23-2006 at 11:25 AM.

  8. starting pics as promised... just make sure you have some sunglasses handy to protect you from my blinding whiteness
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  9. the half dosage for lipidfx is 1capX2 isnt it? the recommended dosage labeled on the bottle says 2 caps 2 times per day
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  10. good save... i read the serving size at 4 and thought it was supposed to be 4 and 4... but youre right. Dosing will be 1 lipid fx with meal 3 and 1 lipid fx with meal 5.

  11. Observations on Day 1 -- 3/23

    After taking the C2 pre-workout I felt much warmer throughout my workout than I normally. By the end of the workout I was starting to sweat a little which I don't normally do. The increased temperature was mild, and enjoyable unlike the energy jolts of stronger stims.

    Also, of of the supplements or the combination aids in digestion. Normally after meals 3 and 4 I get bloated and sometimes feel uncomfortabley full but I noticing this to a lesser extent today though the amount of food has remained the same.

  12. day two observations

    Again at the gym I noticed the increased core temperature after taking the 3 caps of c2 preworkout.

    Im noticing a slight increase in definition which I believe is do to a decrease in water weight as the stack seems to be having a somewhat diuretic effect.

  13. day 3

    today was my first cardio day on the stack, as with the first two days I felt an increased temperature which led to more sweating.

    also I'm feeling the lipid fx kicking in, as my appetite is definately suppressed eventhough I'm just taking half the dose. Normally I eat every 2.5 - 3 hours but today I was busy at work and went 5.5 without eating and didnt even realize it until I looked at a clock. When I did eat, it was hard to finish a meal that I normally down easily.

  14. today was and chest day for me and I have been steadily increasing my bench over the last fews weeks. this morning though I got a huge jump of energy/strength and went from from benching 215 for 8 slow reps to 245 for 8 slows reps and probably could have gone up to 255. I dont know where this came from, maybe the c2 played a role but it was definately a nice surprise

  15. I am beginning to see minor changes in leaness around the abdominal area... so far I have not seen any of the noted water retention from tta products(probably bc I am only using the 1/ dose)

    cAMPH is definately the first thermogenic product I have ever taken that has no effect on my ability to sleep. With most other weightloss supps, if I took them after 6 it was hard to get to sleep and even then, sleep seemed to be lighter. With the camph, I am taking it right before bed, and having no problems getting to sleep. Sleep quality is the unaffected, if not better.

  16. After last night the only thing I can say about camph thermogenic ability is wow. I woke up about halfway through the night to go to the bathroom like I normally do and was more sweaty then when I leave the gym on cardio days. My sleep wasnt disturbed at all, I wouldnt have known had I not had to go to the bathroom. Though the effects of camph sometimes seem subtle they no doubt increase fat burning as advertised. Even though the amount of sweat was a little nasty, it was cool thinking I working towards my goal even while sleeping

  17. Last night I had the night sweats again, though not as much as the other night. Also I woke up hungry which hasnt happened since I started with Bobo over 6 weeks ago. The camph is definately doing its job and revving up my metabolism while I sleep.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bentlax39
    the stack will include
    USP camphibolic
    USP c2
    Scivation Lipid FX
    Scivation Sesamin

    The dosing protocol will be as follows:

    pre workout meal

    3 pills c2 15 minutes before workout

    Workout

    post workout meal

    meal #3 with 2 camph, 1 sesamin and 1 Lipid FX(1/2 dose)

    meal #4 with 1 sesamin

    meal#5 with 1 sesamin and 1 Lipid FX (1/2 dose)

    pre-bed meal with 2 camph

    Dosing rationale:
    I will take the C2 pre workout since it has caffeine unlike the camph, therefore I believe it will have more of a stim effect.

    The camph being the "night time thermobolic makes logical sense to dose before bed

    As for the dosing of the camph midday, I had the option of either camph or C2 at this time. I'll start with the camph and then probably switch to c2 midday halfway through to see if i notice any difference

    The sesamin is following the regular dosing protocol

    The lipd fx i decided to take 2 half dosages instead of two full dosages since i am lean bulking and not cutting. With the main ingredient being TTA, like Designer's Melting Point I decided to take Robboe's advice for TTA while bulking. In the Melting point faq, robboe suggests a half dose for lean bulking so I will start with the half dosage of lipid fx and see how it works out.

    God whatever happened to good old ECA stack.

    Subscribed, good luck.

  19. Its been a week on the stack and so far I like what I have experienced

    Stats at end of week 1
    weight:192
    waist: 33 5/8
    chest: 45
    arm: 14
    thigh: 24 3/8

    The measurements have gone up, weight included but that is to be expected considering the amount of food Bobo has me eating. On the positive side though I am beginning to see some increases in leaness since starting the stack, especially in my arms, shoulders and legs. I seem to be retaining a little water around the midsection. I am going to be adding potassium at 99 mg 3xday, as scivation recommends for reducing water retention.

  20. In the second week of the stack I'm still having the same experiences as the first week. First is an improved core temp after taking the c2, the lipid fx seems to be leaning me out everywhere except for the abdominal area where I seem to be retaining a little extra water. The camph is really cranking up my metabolism at night, sometimes resulting in night sweats. My weight is increasing since I am bulking, but the gains do appear leaner. Beginning next week, I will begin cutting with Bobo so I'll put the full cutting ability of the stack to the test.

  21. I dont want anyone thinking I have forgotten about the log, I just dont have any new observations to post. Im still bulking but like I said before the gains are coming leaner than they were before I started the stack. I will have a week 2 update tomorrow with pics.

    Im happy to answer any questions anyone might have about my experiences with the stack so far.

  22. Week two update

    weight: 194
    waist 33 1/2
    chest 45 1/2
    arm 15 1/2
    thigh 25

    I can really tell now that the stack is effective in lean bulking as my weight gain has slowed though Im eating the same amount. Though my weight gain has slowed, increases in muscle size are the same if not better, showing that I am still growing but adding less fat along with the muscle gains. I still feel a little soft around the abs and lower back, which I attribute to the TTA. I believe the potassium I have added has helped to slightly reduce some of the water retention. Defintion in my arms and legs has definately increased over the last two weeks however.

  23. I have the soft issue too. Going to pick up some potassium today!

  24. Today I began a cut program with Bobo and I'll be continuing with the same supp stack except I'll be adding ephedrine 2xday. Having already run the stack while bulking, I'll be interested to see which goal the stack is more effective in achieving.

    Today before the gym I took the usual 3caps of c2 but also an ephedrine tab, and the results were awesome. While the c2 alone provide a subtle temp boost and energy increase, the c2 + ephedrine seemed to provide constant increasing enery support. At the beginning of the workout the effects seems subtle like normal but about halfway through my workout the boost really kicked in. I was feeling a larger core temp increase, but not feeling any of the jitters that come with the normal eca stack. Also it seemed that as the workout went on and I began to tire, the energy boost from the supps continued to increase to make up for what my body was lacking. The boost was a nice clean energy boost, I was warm but not dripping with sweat, full of energy, but not out of control shaking. C2 + ephedrine rocks

  25. Quote Originally Posted by bentlax39
    C2 + ephedrine rocks
    I'll give a big AMEN to that! Lovin it.
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