ALRI fatloss Stack (AKA "Damn, there went my paycheck!)

[Goffio69]

did you noticed an increase in hardening of muscle ?

[kwyckemynd00]

Yeah...venom is honestly insane. Really kicked my ass, but tears fat off like its giong out of style. I couldnt' deal with the anxiety...I NEVER have anxiety issues, and I thought I was dying all the time on the stuff... on top of that, my body literally felt on fire when i worked out, and i was an insomniac on the stuff....you know the sick part? despite all of those issues, it worked good enough to where ill try it again

[motiv8er]

I would say I saw a muscle hardening. Part of it was a leaning out, the other part vascular-muscle hardening. I am not certain which part of the stack to give credit to. I have my theories though.

[Goffio69]

bAET ECPE seems to be the agent that cause this harding of muscles.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...hardening.html

[mpkonig]

ive been seeing that alot of people have been having problems sleeping with that lean dreams...would it be ok to maybe forgo the lean dreams and just add the special tactics to the stack......also.....why didnt you add special tactics? i know it was brought up earlier in the post but from what i understood....special tactics was made for weight loss specifically?

[RAVEN]

Well another thing to keep in mind is the time taken of the VHD> Most of the people that call the office have taken I vhd in the morning and one in the afternoon. I know everyone is different, but I have been suggesting one in the mornning for awhile, then take another one early afternoon

ive been seeing that alot of people have been having problems sleeping with that lean dreams...would it be ok to maybe forgo the lean dreams and just add the special tactics to the stack......also.....why didnt you add special tactics? i know it was brought up earlier in the post but from what i understood....special tactics was made for weight loss specifically?

[LCSULLA]

I like Venom. It was realy strong, but not so strong that I couldn't take my afternoon nap.
But Thyrogen-x was a disappontment. Three caps aday for three weeks did hardly anything, even at a reduced cal diet.
But i may be hoping for a bit much. I am comparing it to trimax.

[Apowerz6]

LC Dicana still works well at 6 caps a day, and I am running Venom 3.0 2 caps a day and look at that fat fly !!!

[ryansm]

GI like gastrointestinal (upset stomach) right? Not Glycemic Index, hypo-glycemic issues. EItherway I'm not experiancing either. I've always had a pretty strong stomach though and very little bothers it. Except 8,000 cals a day :-) As for stool issues? Nope. I was crapping alot while on the trimax which is expected. ie. eat-crap eat-crap, eat-crap. It's gone back to normal and if anything I'm kinda in the opposite direction of yourself. I'm not going to get to descript but I'll just say I'm not at all constipated.

So how long was it until the Lean Dreams sides stopped and you could sleep ok? ALso, how bad was it the first few times you took it. I can tolerate alot of things and have had issues with tren night sweats/insomnia ect. But this basically has me feeling like I took a stim/thermo before bed and sleep just doesn't really happen. I'm thinking about starting off with like JUST 1/2 tab and working my way up. BTW, assuming this isn't a bad idea for some reason that I dont' know about. The fact that LEan Dreams is in a tab form and can be broken up is an advantage.

I just finished Lean Dreams by itself, and couldn't sleep worth a lick. However now that I am off of it my seep has gotten better. The thing is when I was on it and sleep sucked I was actually improving in training, and especially with recovery time. Now that I can sleep a full night I have worse recovery, and actually feel more tired. I decided to try it again and got another bottle, so I will report back if I get the same effects again. Either way if I can sleep less (although I like to sleep) but recover in the gym quicker, and feel better I will opt to keep using the Lean Dreams.

[LCSULLA]

LC Dicana still works well at 6 caps a day, and I am running Venom 3.0 2 caps a day and look at that fat fly !!!

Do you think its comparable to Trimax?

[Magickk]

Good log motivator... Have you ever tried clen? I'm running 100mcg / day of clen and the only sides I'm getting are the shakes, but I'm seeing great fat loss, only thing left really is minimal chest fat and of course the belly / lower back. Just wondering if you'd ever tried clen, and if so, how would you compare it to venom? Thanks.

[Apowerz6]

Do you think its comparable to Trimax?

Nah, I would not say comprable, I would more or less say more nutrient partioning effect as well as a goodway to get your thyroid back kickin. Not alot of lethargy so thats an upside. Trimax cannot be *****ed IMO for its overall sweaty, rapid fatloss...

[motiv8er]

Magickk,
I would personally explain the difference between the two like this: Clen was an effective fat burner that made me feel like I was on a dirty drug. And by dirty, not able to function well. Venom was kind of the opposite of that, it made me UBER focused and hyper connected. It is like comparing a Pinto and a Caddy. I would never take clen orally again personally, too many other good options out there vs the risk.
In health,
M

[LCSULLA]

a goodway to get your thyroid back kickin

Hold on. I just want to be sure what your saying. That if your taking someting that shuts your thyroid down, say like trimax, then Dicana will help get it back on track? Because I thought that it was a thyroid precuser like Trimax. Or am I wrong?

[mpkonig]

in taking the complete tri-lean stack with the thyrogen-x....after a month cycle, how long should a person wait before starting it back up again??

[motiv8er]

in taking the complete tri-lean stack with the thyrogen-x....after a month cycle, how long should a person wait before starting it back up again??

I think it could be subjective. Are you still getting results without putting your immediate health at risk? Continue, does your BP have blodd shooting out of your anus. Take a break. OK, no more wine for me. Taking a two week break I would consider a good amount of time for systems to return closer to normal. Pinot Noir is good. Ok, no more drinking for two months-- I can't hit a single key a I am aiming for. Wheres my girlfriend?

[mpkonig]

I think it could be subjective. Are you still getting results without putting your immediate health at risk? Continue, does your BP have blodd shooting out of your anus. Take a break. OK, no more wine for me. Taking a two week break I would consider a good amount of time for systems to return closer to normal. Pinot Noir is good. Ok, no more drinking for two months-- I can't hit a single key a I am aiming for. Wheres my girlfriend?

um...thanks.....i guess....

[Grunt76]

It's been 5 days, motiv8er... Have you dropped off?

[motiv8er]

What would you like to know Grunt76?!?!

[jmh80]

He's on TST now...I think.

I'm with you Motiv8. I'll NEVER take clen orally again.
I'll use the rest of it transdermally - results or not.