Muscletech CLEAR MUSCLE
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- 07-10-2014, 03:55 AM
ive got a few days left. i bought it after meeting a huge guy who swore buy calcium-boundat 6gs a day. anyway, i havent noticed any benefits with clear; after re-reading some of the praise i came across, i noticed the reviewers were simultaneously on micro phosphatidic acid and im speculating into whether this is clouding the issue for them. that said, i am a strong responder to supplementation and have not stopped running it since i started so who knows, maybe i dont see the benefits from -fa because ive already got the benefit from leucine. another point about me is i dont follow the training guidlines that are catered to taking hmb; i train three times a week for about an hour and my whole thing is that i dont train too hard. im not one to be sold a training program when supp shopping, and if i had that much free time to train i wouldnt waste money on supplements.
07-10-2014, 11:48 AM
I'm recovering ten times better and I'm in a 700 kcal deficit and 200g CHO fewer than maintenance levels. I really like it. I'm 5.5 weeks in and honestly might run it at a lower dose as a staple
07-10-2014, 11:56 AM
I think this is the first real assessment of ca-hmb that I've read where somehow isn't broing out about he gained x amount of mass.
To me, this is still just leucine and solidifies my stance with MT about them being the worst of snake oil salesmen. If anything it also shows the sad state of affairs of the everyday lifter will be willing to spend 150$+ for a three month cycle.
Real gear will cost less with better results.
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07-10-2014, 05:13 PM
Op when ever you see a claim on an advertisement, it probably meant 1 guy achieved this, and that isn't the average. HMB would probably be most beneficial on a cut to try and preserve muscle.
Also MT's logs they are running now has you doing a set workout routine. So keep in mind anytime a new routine is being done, there will be huge gains in the first few months. Example i just started doing close stance squats. In 1 month I went from doing 225x5 to 365x3.
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07-10-2014, 06:09 PM
Ive been hearing great things from some people I really trust. My bottle gets here tomorrow!! Need anything I can to help me bulk at this point, definitely at a sticking point getting past a bodyweight of 240lbs while staying fairly clean body fat wise.
07-10-2014, 06:45 PM
HMB is most beneficial on a cut to preserve muslce. It wont do much if you're on a bulk.
07-10-2014, 10:19 PM
I'm one of the beta(alpha)-testers of FaHMB, and I've experienced a 137lb increase between my big 3... Now mind you, I've only been squatting (atleast consistently) since January, and DL'ing since Feb. Honestly I believe this first phase of the routine is completely irrelevant to the supplement (essentially S/B/DL on M/W/F).
You can take almost any forum mongerler (like myself) who trains in a bro sense (or a BB sense in mine, and others cases), and throw them on a PL-type routine and watch their lifts jump. Obviously my big 3 are going to jump, and jump big, it's practically the only thing I've done, and lived for (in the gym) for the last 8 weeks.
Now if I'd made these gains on my regular routine (usually run PHAT for 3mon, twice a year) I'd be ecstatic, and confidently could stand behind this. I'd like to say I believe the next phase (Overreching/OT phase) will be the real test, but I'm not too sure it is...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't OT/OR for a short period of time be effective for anyone?? I'm assuming especially after a low volume kind of routine like this... So of course these next two weeks of training my ass off (and more than likely eating my ass off) is going to illicit some kind of gains... Perfect idea, eh? And most of the loggers probably won't catch this and owe it all to FaHMB
Honestly, i don't dislike MT (as I once did), and I'm actually very greatful to have this opportunity (and also be given over $200 worth of supps... hnnng).... But I really don't think it'd be fair for me to give a "real" review of this after forcefully being made to run this routine, that's obviously going to give gains (esp for someone like me)
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07-11-2014, 03:08 AM
Ive been using CM for just over 4 weeks now, running my own routine (high volume/frequency with built-in overreach and deload).
Im eating in a slight cal surplus, and in this time Ive noticed some recomping that I am confident is due to CM (scale weight increased 2.5lb, stomach measurement decreased 1inch); I have never ever experienced this before.
In the first 2 weeks CM had no noticeable effect on my training numbers, and it wasnt until I hit the overreach phase in week 3 that this changed (and quite dramatically too).
Would I purchase CM again? Im not sure, to be honest. If it were half its current price Id be tempted to make it a staple, or maybe if I got the same effects from it at half the dose. Not sure Id want to experiment with the latter, though.
07-11-2014, 03:16 AM
If you're onto it with timing your deload, then yes I think overreaching can be effective for 'anyone' (whether you are pure strength training, or more hypertrophy focused). However, whether OR-ing is 'optimal' for any particular trainee would depend on their training exposure/experience.
07-11-2014, 03:32 AM
Id actually be prepared to regularly pay the current selling price if the product outperformed, significantly, all the other anabolic supplements (PA, ABE, ArA, Folli, etc). But that is something else I highly doubt.
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07-11-2014, 02:54 PM
1) Your short-term training environment; ie what you have become adapted to 'recently', how detrained you are currently, current volume tolerance etc etc
2) Your long-term training environment; ie how advanced you are in terms of your progress rate capacity
Both these factors are of course related. But I take it as given and understood that the more advanced you are then the 'slower/lesser' your progress capacity is regardless of programming. Further to this, the more advanced you are the more likely you will have to 'move away' from cookie-cutter programs...your training protocols will become more individualized.
Cliffs: depending on your training capacity you may find the program from the study underwhelming and subsequently get jack from it.
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07-11-2014, 06:36 PM
Although I cant take your 137lbs increase into factor due to the fact that you just started doing squats and deads, but I am curious how much alone did your bench go up, and body weight?
07-11-2014, 07:50 PM
It's helped a bit in my strength training and recovery, but is kinda underwhelming for the price.
Great product; too expensive is would be my four word review.
07-11-2014, 08:32 PM
Swolen and dj...it really seems to come down to one thing: is CM 70$ better than placebo? Speaking for myself, at this stage it is certainly 'something' better than nothing/placebo, but not 70$ better. You may yet come to a more favourable conclusion though, swolen.
07-11-2014, 08:40 PM
I'm also an honest reviewer though, and no, I wouldn't pay that for it. And it's not just $70, because it took 3 weeks for me to notice it working. If you don't run 2-3 months you're wasting your time.
I'll recommend their various proteins, Nitro tech, creacore, nanovapor and neurocore... probably a few more. I couldn't recommenbd CM though unless cost is no issue.
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