Eat, Train, Sleep: Athletix High Volume and Acute FX

Page 2 of 3 First 123 Last

  1. Tearing it up in here. People are idiots.


  2. So in the interests of full disclosure...I hit the gym this morning and worked up to 320x1, 355x1, and 370x1 on squats...after pulling 410x5 on Saturday.

    And I may or may not have just eaten 2 scoops of Trutein, 4 tbsp peanut butter, and an unfathomable amount of my cousin's birthday cake.

    I'd feel guilty about it, but a man can only eat his chicken breasts and veggies for so long!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Tearing it up in here. People are idiots.
    Yeah brother, it really frustrates me. I'm going to have to invest in a pair of collars now and that money could have been put elsewhere.
    •   
       


  3. Week Three: Day One-Press Complex A
    --Power Movement--
    BB Flat: 210x5, 240x3, 270x1, 280x1
    --SST Movements--
    BB OHP: 120x5, 135x5, 155x5
    BB CGBP: 180x5, 210x5, 235x3
    --Volume Work--
    Weighted Dips: +35x10, +45x8, +45x8
    DB Flat: 70x10, 75x10, 80x10
    Cable Flye: 50 repetitions, undulating weights/grips
    Cable Pressdown: 50 repetitions, undulating weights/grips

    Looks like yesterday's carb-up really brought the strength out for me today: the 280 went up nice and smooth, feeling much better than when I originally hit it.

    I've been getting an increasing amount of compliments lately on my size, and though my bodyfat is a bit higher than I would prefer it to be my lats, delts, and trapezius thickness/width have increased proportionally and I'm retaining my v-taper.

    Current weight is 172lbs, which is the heaviest I've ever been while natty. After hitting the 370 squat yesterday I'm right on track to attain the goals I seek.
    It is time, however, to dial in the calories a bit and perhaps attempt to recomp or bulk at a slower pace. I'm going to attempt some carb cycling experiments with my macros beneath an overall intake of ~3000kcal, which puts me at a ~300kcal surplus from maintenance.

    But we are off to a great start with this little quest I'm on to bench 300lbs; I'm excited!

    Consumption:
    Meal A: 80g oats, 1 scoop isolate, 1 scoop casein
    Meal B: 1 scoop isolate, 200g chicken breast, 4 pcs ezekiel bread, assorted veggies
    Meal C: 1 scoop isolate, 100g chicken breast, 4 pcs ezekiel bread, assorted veggies
    Meal D: 2 scoop isolate, 400g cottage cheese, 4 tbsp peanut butter, assorted veggies

    ~3000cal, 80g fat, 231g carb, 319g protein

  4. Quote Originally Posted by SPLocal View Post
    Week Two: Days Three and Four-Press Complex B and Pull Complex B

    Training has been somewhat hectic for the past few days; yesterday's press complex (OHP-centric) went well but I opted for pump work as DOMS has been somewhat exaggerated for me recently. This morning I went in for deadlifts only to find to no available collars because (1) gym members have been stealing them, (2) this has caused the need for a "check-out" system whereby you give your keys as collateral for a pair of collars, (3) people are still stealing the collars despite this system, and (4) a woman was using the only available pair for her 30lb EZ-Bar skullcrushers.

    Needless to say, I was pissed; I don't re-rack my weights, clean up my chalk, and pay monthly to be told that my own damned gym--a corporate/commercial gym, at that--cannot provide collars for the safety of its members (though I'm not so much as mad with the gym as I am with the *******s who are stealing them).

    Long story short, I eventually got a hold of some collars but the "feel" of the session had been lost, I did some pump work and hit my 5-rep requirements (up to 410x5) for 5/3/1 and left.

    I do believe I will take tomorrow and Sunday off aside from cardio and calves training, so that I can be fresh for Monday's max-effort week and inaugurate this little quest I'm on to gain 5 lean-as-possible lbs in 12 weeks and to hit a 300/400/500 training max for the bench/squat/deadlift.

    I will say though that High Volume has been an absolute blast when it comes to my pump training!

    As if they won't just get some extra collars, that sucks people are taking them.
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  5. Week Three: Day Two-Pull Complex A
    --Power Movements--
    BB Deadlift: 355x5, 400x3, 450x1, 485xMissed, 475x1
    Weighed Chins: +55x5, +70x5, +80x3, +80x3
    --SST Movement--
    BB Squat: 240x5, 280x5, 315x5
    DB Row: 120x8, 120x8, 120x8
    --Volume Work--
    Leg Press: 450x12, 450x12, 500x12, 550x8
    Lat Pulldown: 50 repetitions, alternating grips/weights
    Cable Upright Row: 50 repetitions, alternating grips/weights

    Another PR set today!

    I got a bit greedy and tried to pull 485, but stalled out at the knees and had to drop it. No worries though, as my training max is set at 470 for this cycle and to surpass it after a miss is very encouraging for me.

    Squats, chins, and rows afterwards were more or less a pain in the ass given my fatigue but everything was done.

    Thus far I'm off to a great start with my pre-cycle strength goals, I plan on utilizing the cycle itself for body composition changes and to make some nice and sustainable strength gains. If I can manage to hit 300 on the bench (I am somewhat obsessed with this number) prior to that, a constructive run would certainly net me a 315 which could very well be sustained after PCT. Of course, the squat and deadlift need equivalent--if not greater--attention but I know what I need to do with these lifts and that it is within my grasp. Pressing movements have always been my weak point, and years of pseduo-training have set me back quite a bit from where I could be.

    Other than that, I'm beginning to run low on my HV/AFX but I've purchased another tub of each to see this log through: if I can set further PRs and Athletix can accompany me, I think its a win-win for everyone.

    Consumption:
    Meal A-80g oats, 1 scoop isolate, 1 scoop casein
    Meal B-1 scoop isolate, 200g chicken breast, 4 pcs ezekiel bread, 100g cottage cheese, assorted veggies
    Meal C-1 scoop isolate, 100g chicken breast, 4 pcs ezekiel bread, assorted veggies
    Meal D-200g cottage cheese, 4 tbsp peanut butter
    Meal E-150g turkey breast, assorted veggies

    3138kcal, 82g fat, 245g carb, 355g protein
    •   
       


  6. Congrats on the Deadlift PR!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  7. Week Three: Day Three-Press Complex B
    --Power Movement--
    BB Flat: 210x5, 240x3, 275x1, 285xMissed, 285x1
    Extra Work: 250x3, 225x5, 185x5
    --SST Movement--
    BB OHP: 120x5, 140x5, 160x3/2
    BB CGBP: 185x5, 210x5, 225x3
    --Volume Accessories--
    DB Flat: 75x10, 80x10, 80x8
    DB Lateral Raise: 30x10, 30x10, 30x10
    Cable Upright Row: 100 repetitions at 100-110lbs

    Decided to hit the flat press today instead of my scheduled OHP; my primary concern is developing my bench so I opted to go through a 5/3/1 scheme again and instead apply 5lbs to my OHP training max, and work within the SST ranges at those higher percentages. The way I see it, the best way to get a bigger bench is to bench more, so I may retain this scheme for the next several weeks (along with concurrent SST work done with the OHP, which is admittedly a hassle).

    The next challenge this week will be tomorrow's squatting endeavor, hopefully I can surpass the 370 mark. My legs and arms were blasted this morning from yesterday's farmer's carries (my new cardio "routine").

    I hit a solid breakfast outing with my father and brother after training, I kept it clean but enjoyed myself a bit with a sizable buckwheat pancake for carbs. Because I cannot gauge the calorie count of the meal (a greek salad, chicken breast, and the pancake), I will refrain from attempting a calorie count for today. My other meals have been par the course as usual.

  8. Week Three: Day Four-Squat Complex
    --Power Movement--
    BB Squat: 280x5, 315x3, 350x1, 370x1, 380x1 390xMissed
    --SST Movement--
    BB Deadlift: 315x5, 360x5, 410x5
    --Volume Accessories--
    HS Leg Press: 360x12, 450x12, 540x10, 590x8
    Leg Extension: 100 repetitions, undulating weights and bi/uni-lateral movement
    Hamstring Curl: 100 repetitions, undulating weights and bi/uni-lateral movement

    Another PR set, and although I missed the 390 I did manage to get out of the hole so I know it isn't too distant from my grasp.
    I'm really pleased with how this week has gone, and I'm closer than I had imagined to the numbers I'm trying to obtain. I will keep my nose to the grindstone through these next 3-4 weeks in the hopes of hitting further PR's before this log wraps up!

    Consumption:
    Meal A-80g oats, 1 scoop isolate, 1 scoop casein
    Meal B-1 scoop isolate, 200g chicken breast, 4 pcs ezekiel bread, assorted veggies

  9. Those are some sick numbers... the 100's reps must be killer
    FINAFLEX REP
    Visit our website at finaflex.com

  10. Quote Originally Posted by wasme View Post
    Those are some sick numbers... the 100's reps must be killer
    I try to take as little rest as possible, but at times the pump (especially for quads and triceps) is such that I cant physically move with full ROM, so I have to wait a minute or two. I credit that to the High Volume, most definitely.

    My numbers are decent (excluding the squat) for my bodyweight but if I'd like to compete in the 181s, well I've got a long way to go to put respectable totals up in that category! But as long as I keep at it, I can stay positive.

  11. Great updates, looks like your on a roll with PR's!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  12. Decimating these lifts. Like Wasme said, 100 total reps on the iso leg work is brutal anytime, let alone w/ a pump product. Bet you're feeling good with that 380 squat under your belt, all the way to parallel

    Kinda been going thru the same thing, re-setting maxes thru parallel (although my current max at 445 was all the way thru, no doubt).

    If you're getting stuck after coming out of the hole, consider good mornings, hip thrusts/glute bridges, or high box squats where you sit back to break your kinetic chain, then lean forward & explode up. GM's if lower back strength to stay chest up is the issue, the bridges if hip strength to extend knees is lacking, & the high-box if you just kinda need to get stronger all around for that area. I'd only bother with this accessory supplementation though if you feel you're really out of balance between out-of-hole strength & midway drive-thru strength. Otherwise, just keep squating
    Controlled Labs Board Rep
    [email protected]
    CONTROLLED LABS products are produced in a GMP for Sport certified facility.

  13. Week Four: Day One-Press Complex A
    --Power Movement--
    BB Flat Press: 210x3, 235x3, 260x3, 275x1, 280x1, 280x1
    --SST Movements--
    BB OHP: 115x8, 135x8, 155x3/3/3
    BB CGBP: 165x8, 195x8, 225x5/3
    --Volume Accessories--
    DB Flat: 75x10, 85x10, 75x10, 70x10
    Dips: BWx10, BWx10, BWx10
    Cable Flye: 50 repetitions, undulating weight
    Cable Pressdown: 50 repetitions, undulating weight

    I don't have much to say about this session other than hell yeah. 280 feels easier and easier with each attempt.
    I'm considering swapping out the BB OHP on Press Complex B and replacing it with the CGBP as a primary (retaining OHP as an SST movement, followed by flat pressing). Of course, three consecutive barbell movements takes a lot out of me by the time my accessories come around, but since progress is being made I will retain it.

    Consumption:
    Meal A: 80g oats, 1 scoop isolate, 3 whole eggs
    Meal B: 1 scoop isolate, 4 whole eggs, 4 pcs ezekiel bread, 150g greek yogurt
    Meal C: 4 whole eggs, 150g greek yogurt, 2 pcs ezekiel bread, assorted veggies
    Meal D: 1 quest bar, 2 tbsp peanut butter, 2 pcs ezekiel bread
    Meal E: 200g chicken breast, 100g steak, 100g cottage cheese

    3145 cal, 105g fat, 250g carb, 300g prot

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Decimating these lifts. Like Wasme said, 100 total reps on the iso leg work is brutal anytime, let alone w/ a pump product. Bet you're feeling good with that 380 squat under your belt, all the way to parallel

    Kinda been going thru the same thing, re-setting maxes thru parallel (although my current max at 445 was all the way thru, no doubt).

    If you're getting stuck after coming out of the hole, consider good mornings, hip thrusts/glute bridges, or high box squats where you sit back to break your kinetic chain, then lean forward & explode up. GM's if lower back strength to stay chest up is the issue, the bridges if hip strength to extend knees is lacking, & the high-box if you just kinda need to get stronger all around for that area. I'd only bother with this accessory supplementation though if you feel you're really out of balance between out-of-hole strength & midway drive-thru strength. Otherwise, just keep squating
    I'd say my squat as a whole needs work, but certainly keeping the chest up and creating a powerful knee extension are key; unfortunately I train at a commercial gym (in fact, I found out today that the manager is looking for me because chalk is evidently a "safety hazard"....the ****?), so I need to incorporate assistance lifts that require the least amount of "specialized" equipment (boxes, bands, unique barbells, etc). I suppose you can say I take heavily from Lilly's opinion on the matter. Good mornings and rack pulls are on my list, however, big changes to my routine will be occuring in the upcoming weeks as I get more and more used to a "power" orientation with training. Lord knows I still want some more size, though the two are not mutually exclusive.

  14. Another sick update!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  15. Week Four: Day Two-Pull Complex A
    Weighted Chin-Ups: +45x5, +70x5, +80x3
    DB Row: 100x10, 100x10, 100x10, 100x10
    Cable Straight-Arm Pulldown: 100x10, 120x10, 130x10
    Cable Curl, Unilateral: 30x15, 40x15, 50x15
    DB Hammer Curl: 30x10, 30x10, 35x10, 40x6
    Lat Pulldown, Close-Grip: 100 repetitions, undulating weights and alternating close/wide grips

    Quick session today; I was supposed to squat but things felt "off" during warmups and I could tell my body was not in the mood for it. Instead I opted to throw in a back session, as we all can use some more back training anyways.

    I've made the decision, however, to end this log once this week concludes; I train a minimum of 5 days-per-week, but at times have gone as often as 6 days-per-week over the course of this log (including cardio, extra and unrecorded back sessions, all of which include HV/AFX dosing). As such, I've burned through my HV/AFX tub rather quickly. Although I have a second tub of each on hand (yes, it's that enjoyable), I don't think there is a need to turn this log into an 8-12 week ordeal. Although, considering this in a more roundabout way, it is to the credit of these products that I've been able to train with intensity so frequently over the past four weeks or so: setting multiple PR's in the process and exceeding my given numbers for 5/3/1.

    My plan is to log until the month's end, and insert my concluding thoughts into an earlier post (the one with the HV/AFX tub image).

    I've also got some more recent physique images, should anyone be interested in viewing them.

  16. You put in awesome workouts, thanks for the kind words thus far concerning HV/AFX.
    FINAFLEX REP
    Visit our website at finaflex.com

  17. Really excited for your final review; looks like you've thoroughly been enjoying the product. Those are incredibly heavy pullups man, btw.
    Controlled Labs Board Rep
    [email protected]
    CONTROLLED LABS products are produced in a GMP for Sport certified facility.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Really excited for your final review; looks like you've thoroughly been enjoying the product. Those are incredibly heavy pullups man, btw.
    Thank you sir; I'm really trying to get to +100lbs for three repetitions, unfortunately its been rough on my tendons (hence the lack of overall sets), but I do treat it as a strength exercise and it really warms everything up prior to training the back directly.

  19. Agreed some very heavy pull ups!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  20. Week Four: Day Three-Squat Complex
    --Power Movement--
    BB Squat: 265x3, 305x3, 355x1, 365x1, 370x1
    Extra Work: 230x5, 230x5, 250x5, 250x5, 250x5
    --SST Movement--
    BB Deadlift: 315x5, 365x1, 405x1, 425x1, 445x1, 450x1, 450x1
    BB Deficit Deadlift: 225x5, 275x5, 315x5, 365x5
    --Volume Accessories--
    Leg Press (with 1 second static hold): 280x15, 360x12, 450x10
    Leg Extension: 10x10 undulating weights, bi and unilateral
    Weighted Hyperextensions: +45x10, +45x10, +45x10

    Good session today, I more or less did what I wanted and didn't quite follow Wendler to the letter. I brought in the deficit deadlifts to experiment and I will be retaining them in my regiment.

    With regards to my squat, I've noticed (as have others) that I have difficulty "diving" into the hole, I tend to have a very slow negative which takes a lot of energy out of me. It isn't as much of an issue with my lighter loads, but once I go above 80% it becomes a recurrent theme.

    I was advised to attempt 5x5, progressively overloaded (+5lbs per week) sets after the heavy lifting to get a better feel for falling into my groove.
    Any thoughts?

    Also, have any of you readers noticed the PHF store/forum being offline? I'm receiving 404 messages every time I attempt to access it. I just want to be sure it isn't an issue on my end.

  21. Getting the same thing with PHForum
    FINAFLEX REP
    Visit our website at finaflex.com

  22. 5x5s is never a bad routine when in doubt. Works less for non-noobs, but so does everything lol. Could run it for a month to mix it up & if progress is being made continue for another month or til you stall out for 2 weeks in a row. Sometimes you have an off week in 5x5s. That's pretty f'ing heavy for 25 total reps.
    Controlled Labs Board Rep
    [email protected]
    CONTROLLED LABS products are produced in a GMP for Sport certified facility.

  23. Yup phf wasn't working for me either the other day, seems to be working now.
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  24. Week Four: Day Four-Pull Complex
    DB Row: 80x10, 80x10, 80x10, 95x10, 100x10, 100x10, 110x10
    Weighted Chins: +45x5, +70x5, +75x5
    --
    Snatch-Grip Rack Pulls: 225x10, 315x10, 365x10, 415x5
    Seated Cable Row: 80x15, 120x10, 150x10
    DB Hammer Curl: 20x12, 30x10, 35x8, 35x8, 40x5
    Cable Upright Row: 50 repetitions, ascending weights

    And so ends my last session with AFX/HV; things have been somewhat busy this week and diet has been heavily skewed. I opted for an all-out volume fest since my back happens to be my favorite group to train.
    I've certainly put on some bodyfat in the course of this entire month but I believe the log speaks for itself regarding the multiple PRs and the ability of HV/AFX to fuel my power-building workouts and their frequency. I will be posting a full and cohesive review later today, so stay tuned!

  25. FINAL REVIEW: ACUTE-FX AND HIGH VOLUME

    To preface this assessment, I will note that I dosed both products per bottle recommendation.

    Designed for a complimentary stack, AFX and HV handily produce the pump and energy most trainees seek in a preworkout; what sets them apart in the heavily saturated PWO market niche are their versatility, both in dosing and application. By separating HV and AFX into two products, Athletix has provided consumers with another option in stim-free pump products (largely monopolized by Hemavol until this point) and in a milder, stackable (per single dose) stimulant blend.

    With the increased popularity of GMS, Agmatine, and the application of the former to ArA cycles, HV lends itself to a variety of uses. The disclosed doses of agmatine and l-citrulline are welcome backbone to the central prop blend, which in and of itself includes no ingredients we still see shuttled about in lesser quality products (aka arginine or ATP).

    To the review itself, I'd rather not use a number system but would instead like to lay out what exactly HV/AFX assisted me with during this month of training:

    During my run, I was able to set PRs in the bench (285), squat (380), and deadlift (475) while training on a 5 to 6 day frequency.

    I was also able to hit the +80lbs x 3 mark with my weighted pull-ups.

    Of course, I'm not trying to claim that HV/AFX "caused" these achievements. However, to make sustained progress within the boundaries of Wendler's 5/3/1 for Powerlifting template--a system involving the repeated use of heavy singles in the 90-95% range on the "Big 3" throughout the week--is a testament to HV/AFX's ability to facilitate my energy levels, dissipate mental/physical fatigue, and assist in bringing my CNS in line for heavily demanding training sessions.


    I believe that gauging a product's success comes down to the following questions: Would I buy it again? Would I recommend it to a friend?

    For both Acute-FX and High Volume, the answer is affirmative; I do in fact plan on using High Volume as my PWO-of-choice during my upcoming PH run.

    Once again, I want to thank JudgmentDay, wasme, and Athletix for providing me with this logging opportunity, as well as all who have been following/commenting on this run. Athletix is certainly back, and in a big way, do not pass up on any opportunities to try their products, particularly with the current Labor Day sales going on!

    Finally, here are some recent images to top off the log. Back and biceps are pumped in the upper body shot, the quads are cold.


  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Athletix Sports High Volume and Acute FX Stack Log
    By The Solution in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 147
    Last Post: 10-03-2013, 04:21 PM
  2. Getting High with Athletix ( High Volume & Acute FX stack)
    By NADDANME in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 84
    Last Post: 09-12-2013, 11:40 PM
  3. Replies: 119
    Last Post: 06-26-2013, 09:32 AM
  4. Athletx High Volume and Acute FX Sample review
    By JudgementDay in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-16-2013, 03:18 PM
Log in
Log in