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  1. I dont think alphamine is strong at all, ive been doing natural efx with extra 7 keto and alcar, and ad3 pct
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    The stim in lean would not even be close to alphamine. We don't have anything that high stim! Lean and Natural EFX are an excellent stack I've run myself! Natural is non stim. Combine those with a GDA like slinshot or slinsane and you'll be in business!
    This might be my next stack. I have never tried a GDA, I always get nervous that I will feel all hypo. I am going to North Carolina at the end of June to visit my sister and family. I have not seen them for like 9 years. I want to not be such a fatty when I go.

    I also have 2 bottles of Versa-1, 1 bottle Compound 20, 1 OG Anabeta.

    The Anabeta I would run right up until I leave for NC. I basically have 12 weeks

    Here is possible setup, at first glance I don't see anything that shouldn't be ran together:

    Weeks 1-2 Finish Alphamine/Vanillean, Endurance
    Weeks 3-7 Lean EFX Refined, Natural EFX , Endurance, Versa-1
    Weeks 8-12 Versa-1, Anabeta, Compound20, Endurance, Lean EFX? , Natural EFX ? depending how I feel on them

    Maybe tryout a GDA in there somewhere.

    Thoughts?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    This might be my next stack. I have never tried a GDA, I always get nervous that I will feel all hypo. I am going to North Carolina at the end of June to visit my sister and family. I have not seen them for like 9 years. I want to not be such a fatty when I go.

    I also have 2 bottles of Versa-1, 1 bottle Compound 20, 1 OG Anabeta.

    The Anabeta I would run right up until I leave for NC. I basically have 12 weeks

    Here is possible setup, at first glance I don't see anything that shouldn't be ran together:

    Weeks 1-2 Finish Alphamine/Vanillean, Endurance
    Weeks 3-7 Lean EFX Refined, Natural EFX , Endurance, Versa-1
    Weeks 8-12 Versa-1, Anabeta, Endurance, Lean EFX? , Natural EFX ? depending how I feel on them

    Maybe tryout a GDA in there somewhere.

    Thoughts?
    just make sure to take the GDA about 30 mins before a moderate/high carb meal and you wont have any issues!
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    just make sure to take the GDA about 30 mins before a moderate/high carb meal and you wont have any issues!
    Perfect! I forgot the C20 in there, I don't know much about it, I got it free a few months backs. Should be ok to run with Lean EFX Refined and Natural EFX?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Perfect! I forgot the C20 in there, I don't know much about it, I got it free a few months backs. Should be ok to run with Lean EFX Refined and Natural EFX?
    yes sir! a fine addition!
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  6. Hoping my Bronchitis is nearing the end. I am losing my voice, which usually happens before I get better.

    I'm placing my order for Natural EFX today. I'll probably hold off on Lean EFX Refined until the Alphamine is gone.

    Fingers crossed that I can start log up again on Monday for you guys.

    Should have Natural EFX by Wednesday next week also. I'm ready for the challenge to drop as much fat as possible by North Carolina trip in June

    Any probs throwing the Natural EFX in with Alphamine/Vanillean. I don't see anything that should cause prob. But I'm far from expert lol.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Hoping my Bronchitis is nearing the end. I am losing my voice, which usually happens before I get better.

    I'm placing my order for Natural EFX today. I'll probably hold off on Lean EFX Refined until the Alphamine is gone.

    Fingers crossed that I can start log up again on Monday for you guys.

    Should have Natural EFX by Wednesday next week also. I'm ready for the challenge to drop as much fat as possible by North Carolina trip in June

    Any probs throwing the Natural EFX in with Alphamine/Vanillean. I don't see anything that should cause prob. But I'm far from expert lol.
    Hope you feel better, bro. You'll come back rejuvenated and ready to burn it all off!!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    I dont think alphamine is strong at all, ive been doing natural efx with extra 7 keto and alcar, and ad3 pct
    Lol yeah, sometimes it makes my very shaky. How much extra 7 keto are you adding? I just read on Formutech blog that it takes 30-60 days for 7 keto to really kick in. So now I am debating if I should do the Natural EFX now, or just wait till after I come back from NC.

    Post #32 I kinda laid out what I was thinking. I was also thinking about adding some Forskolin 95 in there as well. Hopefully my stomach can handle everything lol

  9. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    This might be my next stack. I have never tried a GDA, I always get nervous that I will feel all hypo. I am going to North Carolina at the end of June to visit my sister and family. I have not seen them for like 9 years. I want to not be such a fatty when I go.

    I also have 2 bottles of Versa-1, 1 bottle Compound 20, 1 OG Anabeta.

    The Anabeta I would run right up until I leave for NC. I basically have 12 weeks

    Here is possible setup, at first glance I don't see anything that shouldn't be ran together:

    Weeks 1-2 Finish Alphamine/Vanillean, Endurance
    Weeks 3-7 Lean EFX Refined, Natural EFX , Endurance, Versa-1
    Weeks 8-12 Versa-1, Anabeta, Compound20, Endurance, Lean EFX? , Natural EFX ? depending how I feel on them

    Maybe tryout a GDA in there somewhere.

    Thoughts?
    Wish I had some photos on this computer, to show you what Lean EFX Refined, Natural EFX, Youth, ALCAR did for a jump start. I then came off of Lean EFX Refined and am still on Natural EFX, Youth, and ALCAR. I am the leanest I have ever been this far out from stage. My caoch actually added extra carbs for two weeks along with 1 extra meal to make sure I had no muscle waisting due to the rate I was dropping.

    I will tell you that combo made me proud to be part of Formutech Nutrition, especially when my team mates were oogling how quick I went from 12-13% bulk to 7% lean, I also have veins for days.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Wish I had some photos on this computer, to show you what Lean EFX Refined, Natural EFX, Youth, ALCAR did for a jump start. I then came off of Lean EFX Refined and am still on Natural EFX, Youth, and ALCAR. I am the leanest I have ever been this far out from stage. My caoch actually added extra carbs for two weeks along with 1 extra meal to make sure I had no muscle waisting due to the rate I was dropping.

    I will tell you that combo made me proud to be part of Formutech Nutrition, especially when my team mates were oogling how quick I went from 12-13% bulk to 7% lean, I also have veins for days.
    Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

    My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

    My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.
    I love Flexible too, really good joint support!
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  12. Starting to feel closer to normal again.

    Got up yesterday and went to gym to do some fasted cardio.

    Pre: alka-seltzer cold & cough, and emergen-C

    Started sipping 1 scoop Endurance on way to gym. Taste as good as I remember! Started to feel tingles early, probably because I have had no supplements for whole week.

    Treadmill warmup: 8 Mins on 6% incline at 2.5mph Nothing fancy
    Elliptical: 15 Mins at level 10

    Since I'm getting over Bronchitis the workout had the crap in my chest loosening up. I couldn't workout very long, because I knew I had to cough it out. I didn't want to be "That Guy" at the gym who sounds like he has SARS and is spreading it all over lol.

    Notes: Felt better than I thought I would after missing so much time.
    Appears in the next few days I should be back to 100%, then I can really get back to work.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Starting to feel closer to normal again.

    Got up yesterday and went to gym to do some fasted cardio.

    Pre: alka-seltzer cold & cough, and emergen-C

    Started sipping 1 scoop Endurance on way to gym. Taste as good as I remember! Started to feel tingles early, probably because I have had no supplements for whole week.

    Treadmill warmup: 8 Mins on 6% incline at 2.5mph Nothing fancy
    Elliptical: 15 Mins at level 10

    Since I'm getting over Bronchitis the workout had the crap in my chest loosening up. I couldn't workout very long, because I knew I had to cough it out. I didn't want to be "That Guy" at the gym who sounds like he has SARS and is spreading it all over lol.

    Notes: Felt better than I thought I would after missing so much time.
    Appears in the next few days I should be back to 100%, then I can really get back to work.
    ROFL @ SARS reference
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

    My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.
    I will send an email to get NP on board with Youth. I should just have them put the entire line on their.
    Thanks

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Brucega View Post
    I will send an email to get NP on board with Youth. I should just have them put the entire line on their.
    Thanks
    Thanks. I have seen a few Formutech reps say they like Youth with Natural EFX for the added 7Keto. How many mg's of 7Keto do most people take a day if running the 2 products together?

  16. I will let Sixxer comment since he just ran them to get ready for competition. I have not ran them together myself.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks. I have seen a few Formutech reps say they like Youth with Natural EFX for the added 7Keto. How many mg's of 7Keto do most people take a day if running the 2 products together?
    2 caps of youth 2x/day is a good dosage
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    2 caps of youth 2x/day is a good dosage
    OK I'm grabbing the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I can throw in some 7keto from AN. At your recommendation it would be 275mg a day 7keto. One last question, I'm not trying to bug you lol, but 7keto is one of few compounds I've never ran. Is adding the additional 7keto to my stack beneficial at my weight? Or is it better suited to people who are low body fat? I have been trying research it, but I'm at work, so it's hard.
    Last edited by cubsfan815; 03-25-2013 at 12:25 PM. Reason: typo

  19. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    OK I'm grabbing the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I can through in some 7keto from AN. At your recommendation it would be 275mg a day 7keto. One last question, I'm not trying to bug you lol, but 7keto is one of few compounds I've never ran. Is adding the additional 7keto to my stack beneficial at my weight? Or is it better suited to people who are low body fat? I have been trying research it, but I'm at work, so it's hard.
    It will definitely still be beneficial at your weight, but just like with anything else fat-loss related, the results will be far more apparent the leaner you are to begin with.

    not bothering me at all! I'm here to answer your questions!
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  20. NP will be adding Youth on their next order!! thanks

  21. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    It will definitely still be beneficial at your weight, but just like with anything else fat-loss related, the results will be far more apparent the leaner you are to begin with.

    not bothering me at all! I'm here to answer your questions!
    Thanks Man. I just didn't want to sound like some noob.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brucega View Post
    NP will be adding Youth on their next order!! thanks
    Awesome, I plan on running the combo for 8 weeks. So I can grab the youth next order.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks Man. I just didn't want to sound like some noob.




    Awesome, I plan on running the combo for 8 weeks. So I can grab the youth next order.
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    Much appreciated. Youth and Natural efx can both be ran yearly. I need them to get the multi vitamins up. Thanks

  23. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

    My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.
    Very nice, order, you will not be disapointed. The combo works well
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks. I have seen a few Formutech reps say they like Youth with Natural EFX for the added 7Keto. How many mg's of 7Keto do most people take a day if running the 2 products together?
    I ran it at 150mg of 7 keto a day, this includes both:
    2 caps Natural EFX am and PM
    2 caps Youth am and PM

    I stagaered the doses I would take Natural EFX with Breakfast, then my first snack I'd do youth, then Natural EFX with Lunch, then Pre workout meal Id take 2 more Youth.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Brucega View Post
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    Much appreciated. Youth and Natural efx can both be ran yearly. I need them to get the multi vitamins up. Thanks


    AND this is what I like about it.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    I ran it at 150mg of 7 keto a day, this includes both:
    2 caps Natural EFX am and PM
    2 caps Youth am and PM

    I stagaered the doses I would take Natural EFX with Breakfast, then my first snack I'd do youth, then Natural EFX with Lunch, then Pre workout meal Id take 2 more Youth.
    Thanks for response, I will be running it similar. I figured first 2 weeks while I finish off my current supps it would be:

    1 caps Lean EFX Refined am and pre lunch
    2 caps Natural EFX am and pm
    2 caps 7keto staggered am and pre
    3 caps Vanillean before meals
    1 cap Versa1 pre

    Once Vanillean runs out, I will bump Natural EFX to 2 caps 3x a day. At that point I may drop 7keto to 1 cap 2x a day

    I'm not sure if I should wait to start Lean EFX Refined, until Vanillean is done? They both contain Evodiamine, Vanillean yielding 75mg a day. I have some Alphamine that can hold me over if so.

    You and Cswalczakny have been great help

  27. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks for response, I will be running it similar. I figured first 2 weeks while I finish off my current supps it would be:

    1 caps Lean EFX Refined am and pre lunch
    2 caps Natural EFX am and pm
    2 caps 7keto staggered am and pre
    3 caps Vanillean before meals
    1 cap Versa1 pre

    Once Vanillean runs out, I will bump Natural EFX to 2 caps 3x a day. At that point I may drop 7keto to 1 cap 2x a day

    I'm not sure if I should wait to start Lean EFX Refined, until Vanillean is done? They both contain Evodiamine, Vanillean yielding 75mg a day. I have some Alphamine that can hold me over if so.

    You and Cswalczakny have been great help
    that stack looks awesome. Vanillean is legit too. I don't see a problem stacking it with Lean
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  28. Yesterday. Still not 100% so went a little lighter than normal. Stayed with Volume 100 to try to keep heart rate up. Rest times will say 60 secs, but I think I averaged more around 30 secs

    Took half scoop Endurance 30 mins pre
    1 scoop Endurance intra

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (35lbs)

    Machine Shoulder Press (used machine, since I have been weak due to illness)
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (65lbs)

    Side Lateral Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (60lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (80lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (30lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (45lbs)

    Incline Dumbbell Curl
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (40lbs)

    Notes: Probably could have gone heavier. Felt pretty good, minus the congestion
    Not sore at all today, even after taking basically week off
    Wish I would have remembered Volatile sample, because pump would have been insane I bet

    The few workouts I have got in, I really feel good on Endurance. I think the COP may be what is helping on the high volume. That is an ingredient my last intra lacked.

    Calories were really low, and protein was low. Not good macro day. I set myfitness pal to 2400, but fell way short

    Calories 1553
    Protein 95 24%
    Carbs 90 23%
    Fat 92 53%

    Here is what I had for dinner though:

    Philly Cheesesteak Stuffed Pepper

    545 cals
    33 fat
    13 carbs
    44 protein

    Name:  Phillypepper.jpg
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yesterday. Still not 100% so went a little lighter than normal. Stayed with Volume 100 to try to keep heart rate up. Rest times will say 60 secs, but I think I averaged more around 30 secs

    Took half scoop Endurance 30 mins pre
    1 scoop Endurance intra

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (35lbs)

    Machine Shoulder Press (used machine, since I have been weak due to illness)
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (65lbs)

    Side Lateral Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (60lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (80lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (30lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (45lbs)

    Incline Dumbbell Curl
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (40lbs)

    Notes: Probably could have gone heavier. Felt pretty good, minus the congestion
    Not sore at all today, even after taking basically week off
    Wish I would have remembered Volatile sample, because pump would have been insane I bet

    The few workouts I have got in, I really feel good on Endurance. I think the COP may be what is helping on the high volume. That is an ingredient my last intra lacked.

    Calories were really low, and protein was low. Not good macro day. I set myfitness pal to 2400, but fell way short

    Calories 1553
    Protein 95 24%
    Carbs 90 23%
    Fat 92 53%

    Here is what I had for dinner though:

    Philly Cheesesteak Stuffed Pepper

    545 cals
    33 fat
    13 carbs
    44 protein

    Name:  Phillypepper.jpg
Views: 74
Size:  290.5 KB


    that looks awesome
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    that looks awesome
    I only had provolone. Next time I will use low fat mozzarella, and maybe thin sliced chicken deli meat to cut fat down.
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