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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

    My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.
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    Starting to feel closer to normal again.

    Got up yesterday and went to gym to do some fasted cardio.

    Pre: alka-seltzer cold & cough, and emergen-C

    Started sipping 1 scoop Endurance on way to gym. Taste as good as I remember! Started to feel tingles early, probably because I have had no supplements for whole week.

    Treadmill warmup: 8 Mins on 6% incline at 2.5mph Nothing fancy
    Elliptical: 15 Mins at level 10

    Since I'm getting over Bronchitis the workout had the crap in my chest loosening up. I couldn't workout very long, because I knew I had to cough it out. I didn't want to be "That Guy" at the gym who sounds like he has SARS and is spreading it all over lol.

    Notes: Felt better than I thought I would after missing so much time.
    Appears in the next few days I should be back to 100%, then I can really get back to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Starting to feel closer to normal again.

    Got up yesterday and went to gym to do some fasted cardio.

    Pre: alka-seltzer cold & cough, and emergen-C

    Started sipping 1 scoop Endurance on way to gym. Taste as good as I remember! Started to feel tingles early, probably because I have had no supplements for whole week.

    Treadmill warmup: 8 Mins on 6% incline at 2.5mph Nothing fancy
    Elliptical: 15 Mins at level 10

    Since I'm getting over Bronchitis the workout had the crap in my chest loosening up. I couldn't workout very long, because I knew I had to cough it out. I didn't want to be "That Guy" at the gym who sounds like he has SARS and is spreading it all over lol.

    Notes: Felt better than I thought I would after missing so much time.
    Appears in the next few days I should be back to 100%, then I can really get back to work.
    ROFL @ SARS reference
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

    My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.
    I will send an email to get NP on board with Youth. I should just have them put the entire line on their.
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucega View Post
    I will send an email to get NP on board with Youth. I should just have them put the entire line on their.
    Thanks
    Thanks. I have seen a few Formutech reps say they like Youth with Natural EFX for the added 7Keto. How many mg's of 7Keto do most people take a day if running the 2 products together?
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    I will let Sixxer comment since he just ran them to get ready for competition. I have not ran them together myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks. I have seen a few Formutech reps say they like Youth with Natural EFX for the added 7Keto. How many mg's of 7Keto do most people take a day if running the 2 products together?
    2 caps of youth 2x/day is a good dosage
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    2 caps of youth 2x/day is a good dosage
    OK I'm grabbing the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I can throw in some 7keto from AN. At your recommendation it would be 275mg a day 7keto. One last question, I'm not trying to bug you lol, but 7keto is one of few compounds I've never ran. Is adding the additional 7keto to my stack beneficial at my weight? Or is it better suited to people who are low body fat? I have been trying research it, but I'm at work, so it's hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    OK I'm grabbing the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I can through in some 7keto from AN. At your recommendation it would be 275mg a day 7keto. One last question, I'm not trying to bug you lol, but 7keto is one of few compounds I've never ran. Is adding the additional 7keto to my stack beneficial at my weight? Or is it better suited to people who are low body fat? I have been trying research it, but I'm at work, so it's hard.
    It will definitely still be beneficial at your weight, but just like with anything else fat-loss related, the results will be far more apparent the leaner you are to begin with.

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    NP will be adding Youth on their next order!! thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    It will definitely still be beneficial at your weight, but just like with anything else fat-loss related, the results will be far more apparent the leaner you are to begin with.

    not bothering me at all! I'm here to answer your questions!
    Thanks Man. I just didn't want to sound like some noob.


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    NP will be adding Youth on their next order!! thanks
    Awesome, I plan on running the combo for 8 weeks. So I can grab the youth next order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks Man. I just didn't want to sound like some noob.




    Awesome, I plan on running the combo for 8 weeks. So I can grab the youth next order.
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    Much appreciated. Youth and Natural efx can both be ran yearly. I need them to get the multi vitamins up. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

    My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.
    Very nice, order, you will not be disapointed. The combo works well
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks. I have seen a few Formutech reps say they like Youth with Natural EFX for the added 7Keto. How many mg's of 7Keto do most people take a day if running the 2 products together?
    I ran it at 150mg of 7 keto a day, this includes both:
    2 caps Natural EFX am and PM
    2 caps Youth am and PM

    I stagaered the doses I would take Natural EFX with Breakfast, then my first snack I'd do youth, then Natural EFX with Lunch, then Pre workout meal Id take 2 more Youth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brucega View Post
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    Much appreciated. Youth and Natural efx can both be ran yearly. I need them to get the multi vitamins up. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    I ran it at 150mg of 7 keto a day, this includes both:
    2 caps Natural EFX am and PM
    2 caps Youth am and PM

    I stagaered the doses I would take Natural EFX with Breakfast, then my first snack I'd do youth, then Natural EFX with Lunch, then Pre workout meal Id take 2 more Youth.
    Thanks for response, I will be running it similar. I figured first 2 weeks while I finish off my current supps it would be:

    1 caps Lean EFX Refined am and pre lunch
    2 caps Natural EFX am and pm
    2 caps 7keto staggered am and pre
    3 caps Vanillean before meals
    1 cap Versa1 pre

    Once Vanillean runs out, I will bump Natural EFX to 2 caps 3x a day. At that point I may drop 7keto to 1 cap 2x a day

    I'm not sure if I should wait to start Lean EFX Refined, until Vanillean is done? They both contain Evodiamine, Vanillean yielding 75mg a day. I have some Alphamine that can hold me over if so.

    You and Cswalczakny have been great help
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Thanks for response, I will be running it similar. I figured first 2 weeks while I finish off my current supps it would be:

    1 caps Lean EFX Refined am and pre lunch
    2 caps Natural EFX am and pm
    2 caps 7keto staggered am and pre
    3 caps Vanillean before meals
    1 cap Versa1 pre

    Once Vanillean runs out, I will bump Natural EFX to 2 caps 3x a day. At that point I may drop 7keto to 1 cap 2x a day

    I'm not sure if I should wait to start Lean EFX Refined, until Vanillean is done? They both contain Evodiamine, Vanillean yielding 75mg a day. I have some Alphamine that can hold me over if so.

    You and Cswalczakny have been great help
    that stack looks awesome. Vanillean is legit too. I don't see a problem stacking it with Lean
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    Yesterday. Still not 100% so went a little lighter than normal. Stayed with Volume 100 to try to keep heart rate up. Rest times will say 60 secs, but I think I averaged more around 30 secs

    Took half scoop Endurance 30 mins pre
    1 scoop Endurance intra

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (35lbs)

    Machine Shoulder Press (used machine, since I have been weak due to illness)
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (65lbs)

    Side Lateral Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (60lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (80lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (30lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (45lbs)

    Incline Dumbbell Curl
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (40lbs)

    Notes: Probably could have gone heavier. Felt pretty good, minus the congestion
    Not sore at all today, even after taking basically week off
    Wish I would have remembered Volatile sample, because pump would have been insane I bet

    The few workouts I have got in, I really feel good on Endurance. I think the COP may be what is helping on the high volume. That is an ingredient my last intra lacked.

    Calories were really low, and protein was low. Not good macro day. I set myfitness pal to 2400, but fell way short

    Calories 1553
    Protein 95 24%
    Carbs 90 23%
    Fat 92 53%

    Here is what I had for dinner though:

    Philly Cheesesteak Stuffed Pepper

    545 cals
    33 fat
    13 carbs
    44 protein

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Yesterday. Still not 100% so went a little lighter than normal. Stayed with Volume 100 to try to keep heart rate up. Rest times will say 60 secs, but I think I averaged more around 30 secs

    Took half scoop Endurance 30 mins pre
    1 scoop Endurance intra

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (35lbs)

    Machine Shoulder Press (used machine, since I have been weak due to illness)
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (65lbs)

    Side Lateral Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (60lbs)

    Dumbbell Shrug
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (80lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (30lbs)

    Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
    3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (45lbs)

    Incline Dumbbell Curl
    3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (40lbs)

    Notes: Probably could have gone heavier. Felt pretty good, minus the congestion
    Not sore at all today, even after taking basically week off
    Wish I would have remembered Volatile sample, because pump would have been insane I bet

    The few workouts I have got in, I really feel good on Endurance. I think the COP may be what is helping on the high volume. That is an ingredient my last intra lacked.

    Calories were really low, and protein was low. Not good macro day. I set myfitness pal to 2400, but fell way short

    Calories 1553
    Protein 95 24%
    Carbs 90 23%
    Fat 92 53%

    Here is what I had for dinner though:

    Philly Cheesesteak Stuffed Pepper

    545 cals
    33 fat
    13 carbs
    44 protein

    Name:  Phillypepper.jpg
Views: 69
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    that looks awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    that looks awesome
    I only had provolone. Next time I will use low fat mozzarella, and maybe thin sliced chicken deli meat to cut fat down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    I only had provolone. Next time I will use low fat mozzarella, and maybe thin sliced chicken deli meat to cut fat down.
    no sir. provolone is perfect in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    no sir. provolone is perfect in my opinion.
    Tasted perfect lol. Just not sure I need all the fat. Although I did fall 800 calories under
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Tasted perfect lol. Just not sure I need all the fat. Although I did fall 800 calories under
    thats all that matters! besides, hitting mainenance or even going a little over maintenance once a week or so is actually really beneficial when you're cutting. it keeps your body from going into starvation mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    thats all that matters! besides, hitting mainenance or even going a little over maintenance once a week or so is actually really beneficial when you're cutting. it keeps your body from going into starvation mode.
    Lol while sick I handled that. Pizza Buffet, Hardees, Blizzard cake for daughters bday, Arbys. Yup without supplements I binge like crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post

    Lol while sick I handled that. Pizza Buffet, Hardees, Blizzard cake for daughters bday, Arbys. Yup without supplements I binge like crazy
    Yeah I get pretty bad too
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    Your making me hungry!! All this food talk is mean. My Diet: Eggs, Chicken, more Chicken, and more Chicken or fish. Oatmeal morning and Sweet potato post workout. and every third day I get steak.

    Plus cardio 45 am and 30 pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Tasted perfect lol. Just not sure I need all the fat. Although I did fall 800 calories under
    Nice! I've done the same thing the last two days with pizza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Your making me hungry!! All this food talk is mean. My Diet: Eggs, Chicken, more Chicken, and more Chicken or fish. Oatmeal morning and Sweet potato post workout. and every third day I get steak.

    Plus cardio 45 am and 30 pm.
    Those are tasty too. I wish I could stomach sweet potato.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Those are tasty too. I wish I could stomach sweet potato.
    Sweet potatoes are awesome with cinnamon
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    Yesterdays Workout. I forgot that I hit shoulders on Monday, and did Chest and Tri's lol. Oh well

    1 Scoop Endurance started sipping on it on way from work to gym, 25 mins away. Of course I drank it all before I got there. Perfect sales idea, make it taste so good that people drink the crap out of it lol.

    .5 scoop Endurance Intra

    Gym was packed! Didn't get to some of the things I wanted

    Incline Chest Press Life Fitness Plate Load Machine, not sure correct name for it
    45lb plate on each side, starting weigh 11lbs per arm

    10x10 110lbs 20-30 sec rest

    Decline Chest Press, same type of machine
    45lb plate on each side, starting weigh 11lbs per arm

    10x10 110lbs 20-30 sec rest
    3 sets to failure 160lbs 60 sec rest

    VBar pushdowns
    3 sets to failure 70lbs, 80lbs, 100lbs 30-45 sec rest

    One arm cable pushdowns
    5x10 22.5lbs

    Reverse One arm cable pushdows
    5x10 17.5 lbs

    Pushups against the smith machine bar
    3 sets to failure

    Assisted Dips
    3 sets to failure

    Calories 2178
    Fat 122 49% Mostly ground turkey, almonds, and evoo
    Protein 187 33%
    Carbs 94 17%

    I need to get more protein powder, mine is all expired lol. Less than 6 months though

    Notes: -Endurance seemed to intensify the thermogenic of Alphamine/Vanillean? I noticed increased warmth withing 15 mins of sipping Endurance
    - Even though I hit Shoulders and Chest consecutive days, I am not sore at all
    -I took no preworkout, and no 2nd dose of Alphamine, so I had no stims for 6 hours before workout, but I felt pumped up and ready to go
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    Still feeling a little stimmed out from 2scoops Alphamine this morning! That was 5 hours ago lol. I'm hoping I chill out a little bit. I want to try my Volatile sample tonight with Endurance. I know its low stim, but not sure yet if I should lol
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    Does the protein shake date matter? Mine is 4-5 year old.
    I don't take it for protein though. I eat what I'm supposed to in protein and do a shake if I am short on calories.

    Also, what's alphamine?

    And while I'm asking a noob question, what does Versa 1 do? I have a bottle but don't want to take it while I'm logging something. I read that it's for focus? Is that something I take when bulking, or cutting, or ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegisterJr View Post
    Does the protein shake date matter? Mine is 4-5 year old.
    I don't take it for protein though. I eat what I'm supposed to in protein and do a shake if I am short on calories.

    Also, what's alphamine?

    And while I'm asking a noob question, what does Versa 1 do? I have a bottle but don't want to take it while I'm logging something. I read that it's for focus? Is that something I take when bulking, or cutting, or ?

    Not trying to hack your log...
    Alphamine is a fat burner/pre workout by PES @LiveToLift should be able to tell u more.

    Versa-1 is by USP and is supposed to support muscle anabolism. Would be good on a bulk or a cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    Alphamine is a fat burner/pre workout by PES @LiveToLift should be able to tell u more.

    Versa-1 is by USP and is supposed to support muscle anabolism. Would be good on a bulk or a cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post
    Alphamine is a fat burner/pre workout by PES @LiveToLift should be able to tell u more.

    Versa-1 is by USP and is supposed to support muscle anabolism. Would be good on a bulk or a cut.



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    First off. The Bulls Heat game was insane last night. So glad the Bulls ended the streak, without Rose, Noah, Rip, or Marco!!!

    So after still feeling a little to stimmed yesterday, I decided to just go and do some cardio, with no Volatile

    1 Scoop Endurance sipped pre-post

    Elliptical 10 mins warming up while talking to my Dad on the phone about my car accident settlement offer. Felt like 2mins!
    10 mins HIIT type. Level 13-15/out of 20 alternating 3mph then sprinting to 10+mph
    10 mins switching from levels<10 to cool down, then level >17 to mimic a large hill

    Notes: -Sweating a lot more than usual, like yesterdays post I feel Endurance increases my thermogenics?
    -Was able to push myself pretty hard on the higher level(Hills) without legs feeling like they were burning
    -During the HIIT type portion, heart rate was slightly lower than usual, allowing me to push myself harder
    -Legs were super sore last night before bed, however they feel fine today!


    Calories 1716
    Fat 73g 38%
    Protein 126g 29%
    Carbs 143g 33%

    I didn't want to eat that many carbs, until the weekend. But I got home late, and Pasta w/chicken(Italian sausage) was fastest thing to cook lol.

    Also my Lean EFX Refined and Natural EFX are on the truck for delivery today. Basically only took 2 days to ship from Nutra.
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    Very nice. Let us know what you think about the sups once you start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Very nice. Let us know what you think about the sups once you start.
    Oh I will. I will turn this Endurance log, into more of a Formutech log.

    Any idea of what in Endurance would increase thermo feel of my other supps? Again, only thing I didn't have experience in the formula was C-O-P
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Oh I will. I will turn this Endurance log, into more of a Formutech log.

    Any idea of what in Endurance would increase thermo feel of my other supps? Again, only thing I didn't have experience in the formula was C-O-P
    Endurance should not have any increase in Thermo feel per se. There is nothing in it that would stimulate your body to sweat other than your hard work!! Once you start lean efx refined you will tell the difference. Good Luck.
  

  
 

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