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    Originally Posted by braskibra View Post
    im in how does the micro compare to the old version of 3d if you tried it
    i HATED jack3d. HATED with a passion. took 4 scoops didnt feel anything. did not respond at all. And i only train 3-4x a week and take my pre workout on training days only along with Revamp every 4-6 months.

    3/13 - Wednesday

    Today was awesome. I HATE DC legs. those calf raises are killer and the windowmaker squats are just brutal. Overall did good. increased my weight on DB hammer curls by 5 pounds each arm. nothing to note on body comp yet
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    I have a love hate with DC legs as well.

    I enjoyed OG Jack3d for DC training when pumps aren't the biggest. Gave me a swift kick to get it done.

    How's your GF sister holding up with DC+HIIT?
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    DC + HIIT should be titled "The Intensity Death Routine" or something...
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    Originally Posted by classic34 View Post
    DC + HIIT should be titled "The Intensity Death Routine" or something...
    hahahahahha!!! yeah for sure! she is in miami this week. shes been very tired but this is her first time stepping into a gym. obviously i put her on VERY low weight to the point where she could go 20 reps, but i stopped it at 12 just to get her feet wet. Being new to training, i expected her to be tired anyway. If it does not improve, I will have to switch my routine to fit what she can do since she is training with me. I wanted to go 12 weeks with DC, but if she cant handle both (i dont blame her) then I will have to change it up. The first 4 days of (2 she trained) of this lifestyle change for her, she lost 4 pounds. i dont know what her weight is at right now, but she will weigh in first thing Monday. One of my friends is telling her to train abs along with cardio and to be honest, its really making me mad. I want her to lose about 15 pounds before doing any type of ab work. so many different lifts have some affect on your abs. I want her to get lean first. Ill keep you guys updated on her progress but remind me! oh, im not making her do the static holds or anything crazy yet. just following the routine with RP. she hasnt done windowmakers yet but she will

    idk why i never liked jack3d. i just never saw any energy from it or anything. very weird. you know what is even more weird? When i drink coffee, it relaxes me and gives me a warm feeling. when i take a pre workout, it gives me energy. I may have partial ADD lol
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    3/15 - Friday

    Today i am still very sore from those squats!!! i didnt lift today, didnt have time. im going tomorrow. i feel so weird not lifting for 2 days. my neck/back needed rest though. late last night i got in the hot tub for about an hour and had a jet on my lower and upper back. then moved it to my calves and hammys. after that i went home and put a heating pad on my neck like i do every night. man i slept great lol getting in the hot tub and doing that a few times a week is wonderful. i dont own one, but my buddy lives in an apartment complex 2 minutes from my house so i use his gate code to get in and just unwind.

    enough of that, im starting to see some vascularity in my left shoulder. my first run of versa also did this. i will continue to monitor it. cant wait to lift tomorrow!

    oh, i weighed in at 183 wednesday. thats a 2 pound loss from the start of the stack. kinda disappointed but hopefully its mostly fat.
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    Wait, you lift?

    And all this time I thought you just rode crotch rockets in your free time....



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    Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Wait, you lift?

    And all this time I thought you just rode crotch rockets in your free time....



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    Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    3/15 - Friday

    Today i am still very sore from those squats!!! i didnt lift today, didnt have time. im going tomorrow. i feel so weird not lifting for 2 days. my neck/back needed rest though. late last night i got in the hot tub for about an hour and had a jet on my lower and upper back. then moved it to my calves and hammys. after that i went home and put a heating pad on my neck like i do every night. man i slept great lol getting in the hot tub and doing that a few times a week is wonderful. i dont own one, but my buddy lives in an apartment complex 2 minutes from my house so i use his gate code to get in and just unwind.

    enough of that, im starting to see some vascularity in my left shoulder. my first run of versa also did this. i will continue to monitor it. cant wait to lift tomorrow!

    oh, i weighed in at 183 wednesday. thats a 2 pound loss from the start of the stack. kinda disappointed but hopefully its mostly fat.
    Nice hookup there bud. I agree the hot tub b4 bed is money. Looking forward to your next workout man. Hope the back and neck get better as well.
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    Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    Nice hookup there bud. I agree the hot tub b4 bed is money. Looking forward to your next workout man. Hope the back and neck get better as well.
    its slowly improving but ever since highschool football and my concussions, my neck always feels tight. at least im not waking up every single night in the middle of the night in back pain. only have done that twice in a month or two. going to hit the gym today btw
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    Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    hahahahahha!!! yeah for sure! she is in miami this week. shes been very tired but this is her first time stepping into a gym. obviously i put her on VERY low weight to the point where she could go 20 reps, but i stopped it at 12 just to get her feet wet. Being new to training, i expected her to be tired anyway. If it does not improve, I will have to switch my routine to fit what she can do since she is training with me. I wanted to go 12 weeks with DC, but if she cant handle both (i dont blame her) then I will have to change it up. The first 4 days of (2 she trained) of this lifestyle change for her, she lost 4 pounds. i dont know what her weight is at right now, but she will weigh in first thing Monday. One of my friends is telling her to train abs along with cardio and to be honest, its really making me mad. I want her to lose about 15 pounds before doing any type of ab work. so many different lifts have some affect on your abs. I want her to get lean first. Ill keep you guys updated on her progress but remind me! oh, im not making her do the static holds or anything crazy yet. just following the routine with RP. she hasnt done windowmakers yet but she will

    idk why i never liked jack3d. i just never saw any energy from it or anything. very weird. you know what is even more weird? When i drink coffee, it relaxes me and gives me a warm feeling. when i take a pre workout, it gives me energy. I may have partial ADD lol

    Oh boy widowmakers and DC for a new trainee? I wish her luck and a strong stomach. That is all. Agreed on the ab training. My abs are fairly prominent and I only ever train them when I get very lean. I think that if ab training is to be done all of the time it should be light movements with a strong contraction, to develop them rather than grow them. Of course that depends on the individual, some people do need to grow their abs to see them.
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    Originally Posted by classic34 View Post
    Oh boy widowmakers and DC for a new trainee? I wish her luck and a strong stomach. That is all. Agreed on the ab training. My abs are fairly prominent and I only ever train them when I get very lean. I think that if ab training is to be done all of the time it should be light movements with a strong contraction, to develop them rather than grow them. Of course that depends on the individual, some people do need to grow their abs to see them.
    shes gonna start very light hey, shes the one who wants to do what i do (lifting weights) so its her decision!

    3/16 - Saturday

    Today was A1 day. for some reason, my reverse grip bench was VERY low. Normally i can hit about 225 for 6-8 reps..today i could only do 145 for 12,8,4. I guess my triceps were shot already from incline and shoulder press, idk. my triceps are normally my strong point but not today!!! anyways, focus and pump were great today. i love DC but hate it at the same time. im so used to higher volume that i hate to do one workout for chest then move on to shoulders or something else. Im gonna try to bump up my carbs and see if that helps with strength/weight gain.
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    Re: Versa 1 + Prime + Erase + jack3d micro


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    Sunday 3/17

    I feel like im a little leaner. I will weigh in tomorrow to see. My goal for this stack was to allow me to eat a littler dirty while keeping body fat off or even losing a little bit of fat. my legs are still a little sore from those dang windowmakers last wednesday. I have osgood schlatter's disease in my right knee. have had it since i was a teenager. Well the area is very sensitive to any bumps. well at work my knee hit a cart right on my soft spot and it prevented me from doing deadlifts that day. i was so mad. everytime i would bend down it would hurt. not to worry though, tomorrow is biceps, forearms, and legs so i will hit front squats heavy with more freakin window makers....
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    Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    Sunday 3/17

    I feel like im a little leaner. I will weigh in tomorrow to see. My goal for this stack was to allow me to eat a littler dirty while keeping body fat off or even losing a little bit of fat. my legs are still a little sore from those dang windowmakers last wednesday. I have osgood schlatter's disease in my right knee. have had it since i was a teenager. Well the area is very sensitive to any bumps. well at work my knee hit a cart right on my soft spot and it prevented me from doing deadlifts that day. i was so mad. everytime i would bend down it would hurt. not to worry though, tomorrow is biceps, forearms, and legs so i will hit front squats heavy with more freakin window makers....
    That sucks man, I've had that in my left knee since I was 12 I believe. Only bugs me when it gets hit.

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    Originally Posted by bean5er View Post

    That sucks man, I've had that in my left knee since I was 12 I believe. Only bugs me when it gets hit.

    Keep it up bro.
    I have a similar issue with my elbows (without Super Cissus); basically any contact is painful.
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    yeah doesnt hurt walking,running..etc at all but if it gets hit, man it kills
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    Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    yeah doesnt hurt walking,running..etc at all but if it gets hit, man it kills
    Played hockey with guys that had it, some of the toughest dudes I know can be cribbed by the slightest bump. Get some bubble wrap! Lol

    I stared DC my self yesterday, always nice to see fellow DC'ers.
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    Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Played hockey with guys that had it, some of the toughest dudes I know can be cribbed by the slightest bump. Get some bubble wrap! Lol

    I stared DC my self yesterday, always nice to see fellow DC'ers.
    nice man! yeah when i lived in philly i played ice hockey/street hockey year around but texas didnt offer much of that lol
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    Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    nice man! yeah when i lived in philly i played ice hockey/street hockey year around but texas didnt offer much of that lol
    It's great seeing some hockey love around here
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    im all about them broadstreet bully's! love the flyers. when i was a kid, i idolized eric lindros.

    Monday 3/18

    quick note before i get into the training. Compound 20 has decided to join the supp party

    Today was biceps, forearms, and legs. did front squat windowmakers and so did my gf's sister. i can already feel the soreness setting it. thats always bad!!!! usually its when i wake up the next day, but when i feel it that night, i know i wont be able to walk tomorrow. forgot to weigh in, so i will on wednesday for sure. also get my bf% sometime soon and at the end of the stack.

    i want some input here: summer is approaching so i dont wanna have a gut. i feel like im too small to cut but dont wanna bulk and get fat. while im on erase, c20, versa, i may just clean bulk with cheat days a few times a week then do like 3 solid weeks of cutting (i cut super fast but bulk slow) then strict clean bulk till summer is over. what you guys think?
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