Nads Px Black fat attack from Finaflex

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Are you starting your calories out to low in the beginning? Have you possibly thought about adding in a intraworkout carb and amino drink? Timing my carbs for me has done wonders..
    I often add in some Bcaa intra workout but never did much with carb timing. Other than trying to get the bulk of my daily carb post workout.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    yes..you do not want to cut caloric intake to ridiculously small levels in an effort to cut..this is prime recipe for muscle loss..nor do you want to skip meals
    the idea is an overall caloric deficit, spread evenly thruout the day..portion control being paramount imo
    then, we narrow down the macros: low carbs, moderate fats and high protein is a nice generalized approach (mine as well)
    further - from there, we narrow down the micronutrient construction of those macros, utilizing solid sources of good fats, lean sources of protein, and complex carbs majority (ie elimination of sugars & simple carbs)..
    after that, it is simply a matter of keeping up with metabolic changes, ie whacking a set amount of cals off the daily total intake (100cals after a week goes by when you notice fat-loss begin to stall; another 100 per day when the fat-loss appears to stall again, etc), as the body gets used to the steady restrictive fare that we are exposing it to

    small incremental changes, and an eye on what we are consuming, is the secret to retaining muscle and targeting fat when dieting
    Thanks for the good advice everyone. There's no doubt that I need to take better control of my diet. I've already cut out almost all sugar. My wife cooks all my meals and even packs my lunch for work. Most of the time she is good about doing what I ask if she gets busy then she'll throw in about anything.
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  3. Here's today's workout

    Pull ups 3x7
    Db curl 35 3x8
    Bb curls 50 3x8
    Tricep pull down 100 3x12
    Skull crusher 85 3x12
    Lat pull down 3x12 130
    Heavy bag cardio

    ive had trouble getting in my cardio lately. The weather has been to lousy to jog and they have canceled my Friday night basketball game. So decide to rehang my punching bag it's been years since I used it before today.

  4. Most of my cardio is embedded in my lifestyle. I walk a lot in my daily life and only need to add cardio in critical times.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  5. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Most of my cardio is embedded in my lifestyle. I walk a lot in my daily life and only need to add cardio in critical times.
    I've been thinking a lot on basically that. I just changed jobs in January and I'm way less active at work now. I went from being on the floor 95% of the time. To being at a desk or in a meeting 90% of the time and I haven't really done much to compensate for it in my diet and activity at home.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    I've been thinking a lot on basically that. I just changed jobs in January and I'm way less active at work now. I went from being on the floor 95% of the time. To being at a desk or in a meeting 90% of the time and I haven't really done much to compensate for it in my diet and activity at home.
    I live 5k away from work and I love to walk. Walking is great for bodybuilders in my opinion, it is one of the least catabolic exercises I have done.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  7. Today I had another good workout. I started going to 3 pills a day for the last week. Now that I've started to adjust I find that if I spread the does out thru the day I get nice even energy.

    Today's workout:

    Warm up
    Bench 185 3x8
    Incline fly 45 3x10
    Bb row 145 3x10
    seated cable row 120 2x10
    Leaning lateral raise 15 2x8
    Cardio
  8. Re: Nads Px Black fat attack from Finaflex


    Nice workout man. Glad to hear you figured out the right dosing schedule for you.
    E-Pharm Rep... PM me with any questions or concerns

  9. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Nice workout man. Glad to hear you figured out the right dosing schedule for you.
    Thanks I still get a warm feeling in my face. But now I don't feel like I can't stay in my chair at work. Lol

  10. Yah you want to be moving around with all the energy. Just work so hard at the gym you can hardly move.. problem solved
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  11. I'm starting to see some results. My upper abs are starting to show. I still have a ways before the lower ones are visible. Funny thing is the scale hasn't really changed still says 203-204. My jeans are starting to get looser in the waste and tighter in the thighs. I have the next 8 plus week scheduled for a recomp/cut. So I'm fine with losing fat slower if I can still make some gains.

    Yesterday's work out:
    Cardio warm up
    Clean to press 145 2x3
    Arnold press 45 3x9
    Squat 155 4x12
    Ham string curls 3x8
    Incline crunch 25 3x15
    Cardio
    It's been a long time since I did this much volume on my squats. Feels like a light weight but its kicking my butt by the end.

  12. You don't always lose off the scale, you can eat really close to maintenance and lose fat and stay the same weight or even gain on the same cals when using anabolics. Some of us can anyway. It's a good way for me to ensure the mass I add is of the highest quality.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    You don't always lose off the scale, you can eat really close to maintenance and lose fat and stay the same weight or even gain on the same cals
    is the best way to go
    requires a little more structure in diet, and patience, but - yeah, always my preference
    replacing fat with muscle instead = priceless

  14. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    is the best way to go
    requires a little more structure in diet, and patience, but - yeah, always my preference
    replacing fat with muscle instead = priceless
    Indeed you need to be in decent shape year round though and thi is the first year I have done that.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  15. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    is the best way to go
    requires a little more structure in diet, and patience, but - yeah, always my preference
    replacing fat with muscle instead = priceless
    I have plenty of time before I really worried about being cut. So I'm happy to take it slow. I've really been trying to find a way to explain how the new Px Black compares to the original. So here goes both seem to work well and give good energy and appetite suppression. The Black is stronger I've made better progress and feel more of a thermogenic feeling. I like them both the original was less sensitive to doseing times at least for me. The black I need to make sure I take plenty of time between and get it in atleast 6 hrs before bed time. Right now I'm just over half way thru my run looking forward to seeing what I can accomplish in next few weeks.

  16. Good comparison. The original was stronger in a stim sense for me, but I think that black is targeting the fat burning pathway better. Which is perfect for me. The original felt a little too strong in the stim dept for me sometimes. That dmaa always got me, sometimes in a good way, sometimes not.. but the new version is just pure smooth awesome stim.

  17. The two stims are similar but the old was stronger and the new smoother yes.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    The two stims are similar but the old was stronger and the new smoother yes.
    See to me it feels like the new one has a stronger stim. It think its just how I react to the yohimbine.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    See to me it feels like the new one has a stronger stim. It think its just how I react to the yohimbine.
    Yohimbine. It's a helluva 'drug'

  20. Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    See to me it feels like the new one has a stronger stim. It think its just how I react to the yohimbine.
    Could be you react strongly to PEA as well there are times when the new does seem fairly strong to me as well. I have to get really good sleep to feel the full effect of the new where the old can pick me up better from a night with not so good sleep. That might sound a little strange I know.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  21. After a good night's sleep I def notice a better pickup from the black.

  22. I played basketball last night. 2 hrs of full court against a bunch of guys 10 yrs younger than me is a good reminder. Of how much more work I need to do to truly be in good shape. Lol

  23. Yah it's more work as you get older, and you have to work smarter...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  24. Didn't feel well this weekend so I didn't do my regular arm workout until today.
    Pull up 3x7
    Db curl 45 3x6
    Db curl 25 2x12
    Tricep pull down 110 3x12
    Skull crusher 85 3x11
    Lat pull down 135 3x12
    Cardio
    Didn't push it to hard today. Since I haven't been feeling well.

  25. Sometimes it seems like the harder it is for me to get my but to the gym the more I end up pushing myself. I'm pretty pleased with today workout. I took my last dose of Px Black later then usual and exercised earlier. Normally there is about a 3 hr gap between and today there was only about 1.5 hrs.

    Cardio warm up
    Clean to press 145 3x3
    Arnold press 45 3x9
    Squat 185 4x10
    Straight leg deads 200 2x7
    Leg raises
    Cardio

    I even spent more time on my post cardio then usual. Right now I just laying in bed with no electric and its only 64 deg. In my house. 1.5 hr after my workout and I still feel like sweating.
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