Nads Px Black fat attack from Finaflex

[3clipseGT]

I tried Leangains/IF for about three weeks. I just couldnt do it at all. But it works very well for some and it just comes down to what works best for you, your schedule, and your body.

[snagencyV2.0]

It seems to me I don't really gain fat easier than most I just don't lose it very well...if I try to lose fat I just lose muscle atleast on a 50/50 bases.

the cause here could be simply in your protocol
easy enough to troubleshoot..has nothing to do with "bodytype" at all

[3clipseGT]

It seems to me I don't really gain fat easier than most I just don't lose it very well. U can go on a bulk and put on a couple pounds of muscle without much fat gain. But if I try to lose fat I just lose muscle atleast on a 50/50 bases. That's why I'm staying on Daa while trying to cut.

Are you starting your calories out to low in the beginning?

Have you possibly thought about adding in a intraworkout carb and amino drink?

Timing my carbs for me has done wonders..

[NADDANME]

the cause here could be simply in your protocol
easy enough to troubleshoot..has nothing to do with "bodytype" at all

For me when I try to lean out. What I found works the best is going low carb, upping my cardio and adding in a fat burner. If I cut back on my calorie too much than I feel like I'm drugged and can't function. For some reason this isn't nearly as bad if I skip breakfast in the morning then if I try to go with a lite lunch or dinner.

[snagencyV2.0]

For me when I try to lean out. What I found works the best is going low carb, upping my cardio and adding in a fat burner. If I cut back on my calorie too much than I feel like I'm drugged and can't function. For some reason this isn't nearly as bad if I skip breakfast in the morning then if I try to go with a lite lunch or dinner.

yes..you do not want to cut caloric intake to ridiculously small levels in an effort to cut..this is prime recipe for muscle loss..nor do you want to skip meals
the idea is an overall caloric deficit, spread evenly thruout the day..portion control being paramount imo
then, we narrow down the macros: low carbs, moderate fats and high protein is a nice generalized approach (mine as well)
further - from there, we narrow down the micronutrient construction of those macros, utilizing solid sources of good fats, lean sources of protein, and complex carbs majority (ie elimination of sugars & simple carbs)..
after that, it is simply a matter of keeping up with metabolic changes, ie whacking a set amount of cals off the daily total intake (100cals after a week goes by when you notice fat-loss begin to stall; another 100 per day when the fat-loss appears to stall again, etc), as the body gets used to the steady restrictive fare that we are exposing it to

small incremental changes, and an eye on what we are consuming, is the secret to retaining muscle and targeting fat when dieting

[NADDANME]

Are you starting your calories out to low in the beginning? Have you possibly thought about adding in a intraworkout carb and amino drink? Timing my carbs for me has done wonders..

I often add in some Bcaa intra workout but never did much with carb timing. Other than trying to get the bulk of my daily carb post workout.

[NADDANME]

yes..you do not want to cut caloric intake to ridiculously small levels in an effort to cut..this is prime recipe for muscle loss..nor do you want to skip meals
the idea is an overall caloric deficit, spread evenly thruout the day..portion control being paramount imo
then, we narrow down the macros: low carbs, moderate fats and high protein is a nice generalized approach (mine as well)
further - from there, we narrow down the micronutrient construction of those macros, utilizing solid sources of good fats, lean sources of protein, and complex carbs majority (ie elimination of sugars & simple carbs)..
after that, it is simply a matter of keeping up with metabolic changes, ie whacking a set amount of cals off the daily total intake (100cals after a week goes by when you notice fat-loss begin to stall; another 100 per day when the fat-loss appears to stall again, etc), as the body gets used to the steady restrictive fare that we are exposing it to

small incremental changes, and an eye on what we are consuming, is the secret to retaining muscle and targeting fat when dieting

Thanks for the good advice everyone. There's no doubt that I need to take better control of my diet. I've already cut out almost all sugar. My wife cooks all my meals and even packs my lunch for work. Most of the time she is good about doing what I ask if she gets busy then she'll throw in about anything.

[NADDANME]

Here's today's workout

Pull ups 3x7
Db curl 35 3x8
Bb curls 50 3x8
Tricep pull down 100 3x12
Skull crusher 85 3x12
Lat pull down 3x12 130
Heavy bag cardio

ive had trouble getting in my cardio lately. The weather has been to lousy to jog and they have canceled my Friday night basketball game. So decide to rehang my punching bag it's been years since I used it before today.

[DreamWeaver]

Most of my cardio is embedded in my lifestyle. I walk a lot in my daily life and only need to add cardio in critical times.

[NADDANME]

Most of my cardio is embedded in my lifestyle. I walk a lot in my daily life and only need to add cardio in critical times.

I've been thinking a lot on basically that. I just changed jobs in January and I'm way less active at work now. I went from being on the floor 95% of the time. To being at a desk or in a meeting 90% of the time and I haven't really done much to compensate for it in my diet and activity at home.

[DreamWeaver]

I've been thinking a lot on basically that. I just changed jobs in January and I'm way less active at work now. I went from being on the floor 95% of the time. To being at a desk or in a meeting 90% of the time and I haven't really done much to compensate for it in my diet and activity at home.

I live 5k away from work and I love to walk. Walking is great for bodybuilders in my opinion, it is one of the least catabolic exercises I have done.

[NADDANME]

Today I had another good workout. I started going to 3 pills a day for the last week. Now that I've started to adjust I find that if I spread the does out thru the day I get nice even energy.

Today's workout:

Warm up
Bench 185 3x8
Incline fly 45 3x10
Bb row 145 3x10
seated cable row 120 2x10
Leaning lateral raise 15 2x8
Cardio

[3clipseGT]

Nice workout man. Glad to hear you figured out the right dosing schedule for you.

[NADDANME]

Nice workout man. Glad to hear you figured out the right dosing schedule for you.

Thanks I still get a warm feeling in my face. But now I don't feel like I can't stay in my chair at work. Lol

[DreamWeaver]

Yah you want to be moving around with all the energy. Just work so hard at the gym you can hardly move.. problem solved

[NADDANME]

I'm starting to see some results. My upper abs are starting to show. I still have a ways before the lower ones are visible. Funny thing is the scale hasn't really changed still says 203-204. My jeans are starting to get looser in the waste and tighter in the thighs. I have the next 8 plus week scheduled for a recomp/cut. So I'm fine with losing fat slower if I can still make some gains.

Yesterday's work out:
Cardio warm up
Clean to press 145 2x3
Arnold press 45 3x9
Squat 155 4x12
Ham string curls 3x8
Incline crunch 25 3x15
Cardio
It's been a long time since I did this much volume on my squats. Feels like a light weight but its kicking my butt by the end.

[DreamWeaver]

You don't always lose off the scale, you can eat really close to maintenance and lose fat and stay the same weight or even gain on the same cals when using anabolics. Some of us can anyway. It's a good way for me to ensure the mass I add is of the highest quality.

[snagencyV2.0]

You don't always lose off the scale, you can eat really close to maintenance and lose fat and stay the same weight or even gain on the same cals

is the best way to go
requires a little more structure in diet, and patience, but - yeah, always my preference
replacing fat with muscle instead = priceless

[DreamWeaver]

is the best way to go
requires a little more structure in diet, and patience, but - yeah, always my preference
replacing fat with muscle instead = priceless

Indeed you need to be in decent shape year round though and thi is the first year I have done that.

[NADDANME]

is the best way to go
requires a little more structure in diet, and patience, but - yeah, always my preference
replacing fat with muscle instead = priceless

I have plenty of time before I really worried about being cut. So I'm happy to take it slow. I've really been trying to find a way to explain how the new Px Black compares to the original. So here goes both seem to work well and give good energy and appetite suppression. The Black is stronger I've made better progress and feel more of a thermogenic feeling. I like them both the original was less sensitive to doseing times at least for me. The black I need to make sure I take plenty of time between and get it in atleast 6 hrs before bed time. Right now I'm just over half way thru my run looking forward to seeing what I can accomplish in next few weeks.