The ACHILLES Heal of Snags...

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  1. Cool The ACHILLES Heal of Snags...

    details coming soon..for now check out this cool label.

  2. Very cool label and I have been interested in this product. Glad that a "seasoned" lifter is reviewing it. Lol
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  3. In!

    AMZ, looking jacked in the avi brotha. Or should I say Fadda lmao!
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative

  4. Subbed. Looking forward to some feedback on this.
    PEScience Representative

  5. In over here too. Kill it snages!
    *Antaeus Lab Rep*

  6. Good stuff Snags I am here also. Some stuff I am not familiar with and some I am in this product. Anteaus always brings it to the table so curious to hear your thoughts on it.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -

  7. In for it snags

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  8. In for this.

  9. in!!!!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by cdiblasi View Post
    In over here too. Kill it snages!
    @ cdiblasi : Other than the already well liked Cissus is there anything you can tell us about the ingredients? I don't have time to go research and figure you might have some info you can provide?
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    @ cdiblasi : Other than the already well liked Cissus is there anything you can tell us about the ingredients? I don't have time to go research and figure you might have some info you can provide?
    I PM'd you brother. I don't have enough posts to post links yet.
    *Antaeus Lab Rep*

  12. 136 posts, and still can't do links?

    well i'll help out here - direct from the AL website:


    Ultimate Joint Support

    By combining cutting-edge pharmaceutical-grade ingredients with tried-and-tested high-quality herbal extracts, new Achilles from Antaeus Labs brings you the most advanced joint-support formula on the market!

    Every hero has a weakness. For many weightlifters and bodybuilders this is their joints. Tendons and ligaments bear the brunt of punishing weight-lifting sessions, commonly becoming inflamed and sore.

    The connective tissue just can't keep up with the heavier and heavier weights lifted week after week.

    Niggling pains become chronic injuries, often requiring a forced rest, a change of routine or the permanent dropping of some exercises altogether.


    40 years of scientific research has established Palmitoylethanolamide (PEA) as one of the most important endogenous painkilling and anti-inflammatory compounds.
    The naturally occurring fatty acid amide palmitoylethanolamide is an agonist of the peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor alpha (PPAR-α). [1] PPAR-α agonists have been shown to be effective for both acute and chronic pain. [2]
    PEA can modulate pain sensitivity (nociception) by regulating mast cells. [3] Mast cells release bioactive mediators like histamine (that dilates blood vessels leading to swelling, redness, and warmth [4]) and nerve growth factor (that produces inflammation and sensitization of pain-sensing neurons [5]).

    Heteropterys Aphrodisiaca
    Brazilian traditional medicine uses H. aphrodisiaca for, among other things, muscle and bone weakness – use that has been borne out recently when a study found that H. aphrodisiaca-treated trained rats had stronger tendons that could take a bigger load and more stress than untreated trained rats. [6]

    “H. aphrodisiaca associated with endurance training contributed to more efficient remodeling of the extracellular matrix, resulting in more resistant tendons to support high loads from intense muscle contraction. These findings suggest that H. aphrodisiaca infusion is a potential aid to optimize tendon remodeling in athletes.” [6]

    The plant Xi Xian Cao (Siegesbeckia orientalis) has been used for centuries in traditional chinese medicine (TCM) for its anti-inflammatory properties. One constituent of Siegesbeckia is Kirenol – which has recently been discovered to be a potent anti-inflammatory that also suppressed joint inflammation and inhibited cartilage and bone destruction in a rat model of arthritis. [7][8]

    Cissus Quadrangularis
    Asthisamharaka (Cissus Quadrangularis) is another herb that has been used for centuries in Ayurvedic medicine to heal broken bones and injured ligaments and tendons. [9] Numerous studies show that Cissus is anti-osteoporotic and pro-osteogenic, and it’s long been a staple in the arsenal of athletes and bodybuilders with joint problems. [10][11]
    “There was shortening of about two weeks in the duration of bone healing. The hastening in the fracture healing was attributed to the stimulation of all cells of mesenchymal origin, namely, the fibroblasts, chondroblasts and osteoblasts, by Cissus quandrangularis.” [10]

    Zingiber Zerumbet
    Zingiber Zerumbet is a species of ginger, the rhizome (root) of which has been used traditionally throughout Southeast Asia to treat pain and inflammation. Recent studies have demonstrated antinociceptive, anti-inflammatory, and antioxidant properties. [12] In addition to containing molecules such as 6-gingerol, which are very well-known anti-inflammatory modulators, some of the phytochemical constituents that make up Zingiber Zerumbet have been found to be potent histone deacetylase (HDAC) inhibitors. [13] Several studies have recently concluded that HDAC inhibition can reduce joint inflammation and protect cartilage. [14][15][16]

    “In conclusion, inhibition of HDAC prevents joint inflammation and cartilage and bone destruction in experimental arthritis.” [14]

    “HDAC inhibitors may therefore be novel chondroprotective therapeutic agents in arthritis by virtue of their ability to inhibit the expression of destructive metalloproteinases by chondrocytes.” [15]

    These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.
    This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

    [1] Verme JL, Fu J, Astarita G, Rana GL, Russo R, Calignano A, et al. The Nuclear Receptor Peroxisome Proliferator-Activated Receptor-α Mediates the Anti-Inflammatory Actions of Palmitoylethanolamide. Mol Pharmacol. 2005 Jan 1;67(1):15–9.
    [2] Fehrenbacher JC, Loverme J, Clarke W, Hargreaves KM, Piomelli D, Taylor BK. Rapid pain modulation with nuclear receptor ligands. Brain Res Rev. 2009 Apr;60(1):114–24.
    [3] Mazzari S, Canella R, Petrelli L, Marcolongo G, Leon A. N-(2-hydroxyethyl)hexadecanamide is orally active in reducing edema formation and inflammatory hyperalgesia by down-modulating mast cell activation. Eur. J. Pharmacol. 1996 Apr 11;300(3):227–36.
    [4] Prussin C, Metcalfe DD. 4. IgE, mast cells, basophils, and eosinophils. J. Allergy Clin. Immunol. 2003 Feb;111(2 Suppl):S486–494.
    [5] Nicol GD, Vasko MR. Unraveling the story of NGF-mediated sensitization of nociceptive sensory neurons: ON or OFF the Trks? Mol. Interv. 2007 Feb;7(1):26–41.
    [6] Monteiro JC, Gomes ML, Tomiosso TC, Nakagaki WR, Sbervelheri MM, Ferrucci DL, et al. More resistant tendons obtained from the association of Heteropterys aphrodisiaca and endurance training. BMC Complementary and Alternative Medicine. 2011 Jun 28;11(1):51.
    [7] Lu Y, Xiao J, Wu Z-W, Wang Z-M, Hu J, Fu H-Z, et al. Kirenol exerts a potent anti-arthritic effect in collagen-induced arthritis by modifying the T cells balance. Phytomedicine. 2012 Jul 15;19(10):882–9.
    [8] Wang Z-M, Zhu S-G, Wu Z-W, Lu Y, Fu H-Z, Qian R-Q. Kirenol upregulates nuclear annexin-1 which interacts with NF-κB to attenuate synovial inflammation of collagen-induced arthritis in rats. J Ethnopharmacol. 2011 Sep 1;137(1):774–82.
    [9] Upadhya V, Hegde HV, Bhat S, Hurkadale PJ, Kholkute SD, Hegde GR. Ethnomedicinal plants used to treat bone fracture from North-Central Western Ghats of India. J Ethnopharmacol. 2012 Jul 13;142(2):557–62.
    [10] Singh V, Singh N, Pal US, Dhasmana S, Mohammad S, Singh N. Clinical evaluation of cissus quadrangularis and moringa oleifera and osteoseal as osteogenic agents in mandibular fracture. Natl J Maxillofac Surg. 2011;2(2):132–6.
    [11] Aswar UM, Mohan V, Bodhankar SL. Antiosteoporotic activity of phytoestrogen-rich fraction separated from ethanol extract of aerial parts of Cissus quadrangularis in ovariectomized rats. Indian J Pharmacol. 2012;44(3):345–50.
    [12] Yob NJ, Jofrry SM, Affandi MMRMM, Teh LK, Salleh MZ, Zakaria ZA. Zingiber zerumbet (L.) Smith: A Review of Its Ethnomedicinal, Chemical, and Pharmacological Uses. Evid Based Complement Alternat Med [Internet]. 2011.
    [13] Chung I-M, Kim M-Y, Park W-H, Moon H-I. Histone deacetylase inhibitors from the rhizomes of Zingiber zerumbet. Pharmazie. 2008 Oct;63(10):774–6.
    [14] Joosten LA, Leoni F, Meghji S, Mascagni P. Inhibition of HDAC Activity by ITF2357 Ameliorates Joint Inflammation and Prevents Cartilage and Bone Destruction in Experimental Arthritis. Mol Med. 2011;17(5-6):391–6.
    [15] Young DA, Lakey RL, Pennington CJ, Jones D, Kevorkian L, Edwards DR, et al. Histone deacetylase inhibitors modulate metalloproteinase gene expression in chondrocytes and block cartilage resorption. Arthritis Res Ther. 2005;7(3):R503–R512.
    [16] Chen W-P, Bao J-P, Hu P-F, Feng J, Wu L-D. Alleviation of osteoarthritis by Trichostatin A, a histone deacetylase inhibitor, in experimental osteoarthritis. Mol. Biol. Rep. 2010 Dec;37(8):3967–72.

  13. I like what I read he was kind enough to PM it to me. I was going to put it in here but got sidetracked.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  14. Antaeus Labs | Achilles

    Link to product
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  15. while Achilles is in transit, i took couple days off to rest up - the calm before the storm.

    back at it today, did some leg work: atg BB squats, DB jump squats, BB rdl's, and BB calf raises @ 3 toe positions).

    i have been using the Freak Workout designed by world-renowned trainer Jon Doyle for the past couple's a fairly high-frequency program, training 5 and 6 days a week thruout. almost into month 3 (where the plan changes again), but i don't know how much longer i'll follow the protocol before i veer off on my own design again....

    the goal this off-season is to add some quality muscle while remaining lean, and currently i'm after some strength too, so plenty of heavy iron is on tap to be thrown around.

    i have in mind a pretty intense month of training to put Achilles to the test.

  16. Your last log was very informative and super entertaining!!! Still rocking your 10x3 as a nice change of pace.

  17. In it for the support Snags! Just got my Achilles log up!
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  18. during phase I of the Freak Workout, my elbows starting throbbing something fierce. now, i typically have some kind of ache or pain going on at all times, but i'd never experienced any elbow issues really..

    still a bit of tender forearms, and L shoulder pain and limit on ROM - these are all things lingering from tennis.

    anyway, i make it sound worse than it is lol..i'm really in decent shape currently, but if i can get some analgesic benefits to these minor nags while also seeing some healing effects, this product will be worth its weight in gold.

    hopefully, Achilles will arrive today!

  19. Hoping you can get on Achilles soon and get rid of the pain. Great work Snagency, your last log was killer!
    Sustain Alpha is back!

  20. thank you BBG. appreciate it!

    and welcome all - the eagle has landed. Achilles arrived and i have taken 2 doses this day...
    it has begun.

  21. okay, let's catch up to date.

    i decided to drop into my own routine for awhile, a 5x weekly/1-basic-muscle-group-per-day routine that i have used on/off for well over a decade now.
    so, training (following my mini-break) has been:

    WED - legs/calves
    THUR - shoulders
    FRI - back
    SAT - arms/abs

    off day tomorrow, then

    MON chest/abs
    TUE - off

    that will be the basis for the next month..i have heavy days and also hi-rep days, and i will be using drop sets/negatives/speed reps and other fun tactics thruout as well. dietary intake will be slimmed down (slightly) as i harden things up just a bit, composition-wise.

    so far - 3 doses in..nothing to report.

  22. Headed to Troy...time to conquer!
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  23. Sweet label brotha!!!

  24. i should mention - been using cissus q for ~25 days, 10 days prior to starting this log.
    maybe that'll give me unique perspective on how this stacks up directly, as i've long been a fan of cissus....

    some of these names, man..who comes up with this stuff?

    heteropterys aphrodisiaca..makes me think of herpes
    zingiber zerumbet (seriously?)
    palitylethanolamide (gesundheit)
    siegesbeckea orientalis (in some parts of the world saying this this may incite a fight to the death)

    i love herbs, don't get me wrong. i've experienced first-hand some tremendous healing and progress with herbs, and have a favorable healthy respect.

    the names man..they strike me humerous.

    anyway - tho i won't continue to update daily, i will say i am sore as hell today..back, arms, did some chest today (dint feel like taking a day off, will tomorrow tho)..
    no notable difference in joints to this point.

  25. 3 days and 6 doses in..
    i'm beginning to sense some relief.
    just a general lack of soreness and stiffness this morning upon rising - felt nice!

    btw, weight ~202.5 upon rising.
    taking Achilles with breakfast, and again at supper (2 caps per).


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