Speaking of the Vet .. this is him lolOriginally Posted by AaronJP1

I'm humbled.Originally Posted by TORC![]()
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I could be wrong but I believe that this product is not very harmful to the liver. So you should t have an issue running for 8 weeks. The whole 17-19 one behind the other no sure how that would turn out.Originally Posted by TORC
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I did read that it is suppose to be easier on the liver than most due to how it binds. But what about gyno with 19? But that does sound like a good idea running 19 then 17 followed up by proper PCT. Thanks for the idea.Originally Posted by Budman7811
Well no liver problems with either as they are non methyls.Originally Posted by TORC
I would say Rip was right as each product is geared towards a specific goal.
I'm a fan of 17 though.
19 should not cause gyno @ all... That's one of the traits of it's "parent" compound but I think it might be a bit weak to induce gyno. Some are prone to it though.
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Nevermind jp you have answered this in a pm it just hit me lol
i wouldnt go with 17 and 19 togther..i would use the 19 with something like the test tren...or take 17 with methyl 1D
Rip stated TesTren was m1d blk and 19.Originally Posted by purelife2
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Overhand + underhand bb rows
8@135+8@135
8@140+10@140
8@145+10@145
Deadlifts
10@135
8@185
7@235
Nautilus pullover
10@90
10@110
10@130
Hammer strength mts AB crunch
20@60,70,80
Med grip low row
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10@4plates
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Standin shrug
10@6plates
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but is tren banned? I keep reading the diff brands are. If there is one that's not could you recommend it? And also isn't anything that methyl hard on the liver? Or is 1D just mild ?Originally Posted by purelife2
Did you mean testren ?
Did who mean TesTren?Originally Posted by TORC
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testren is our product and it doesnt contain "tren" its just the name given it because we tried to mimic its effects.. this one has a test base (LM1D) and the trenlike PH(PH19) stacked. there is a current tren product out there its called trenavar. its still legal. our M1D is not methylated it just the name it was given many yrs ago and is kinda our flagship product. yes its very mild
Methyl 1 D? That's the LG flagship? Thought it would be other products besides that...Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx
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Purelife is who I was asking. He recommended a stack and the wording kinda confused me. But thank you two for the info
These guys have some knowledge
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