Maximizing TRT w/ 5-ALPHA TEST. (SPONSORED)

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  1. Time for an update!

    5-Alpha Test experience, Day 10

    Recent weight measurements:
    10/6: 188.4
    10/9: 187.6
    10/12: 186.6
    10/15: 186.2
    Weight change: -2.2 lb, 188.4->186.2

    So, progress! Down 2 pounds in 10 days with no upward fluctuation is a nice surprise. I'd say that's actually about optimal for dropping fat while maintaining muscle mass. When cutting in the past I usually have to drop my calorie intake quite low in order to see any sort of weight-loss, regardless of cardio increase/decrease. We're talking like 1000-1400 calories a day for a number of weeks to see maybe a 5 lb loss. SO down 2 pounds in 10 days on a range of calories from 1500-2000 is really good news. Weightlifting stamina has remained slightly elevated regardless of the calorie deficit, I attribute this primarily to the elevated DHT levels from the 5-Alpha Test. Strength this last week has stayed the same or gone up maybe a rep here or there, but this is expected in a cutting phase.

    Mental:

    -The stim sensation followed by the lethargy has almost totally dissipated, at the most there is a minor mental boost while I am no longer feeling any sort of lethargy that could be attributed to the 5-Alpha Test.

    Physical:

    -With only a two pound loss we can't be expecting too much in the way of physical improvements, it has only been ten days, BUT I wore one of my favorite tanks all weekend (the one in the July photo in the OP) that had felt too tight since the summer weight gain. This leads me to believe that some good things are happening, quite quickly.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.


  2. OK boys! This is the two week mark!

    5-Alpha Test experience, Day 14:

    So, today I came in at 182.3 It was kind of unbelievable, I re-weighed myself 3 or 4 times lol.

    Recent weight measurements:

    10/6: 188.4
    10/9: 187.6
    10/12: 186.6
    10/15: 186.2
    10/18: 184.8
    10/19: 182.3?!

    In just two weeks I've gone from 188.4 -> 182.3, a net loss of 6.1 pounds. This is pretty amazing considering I have been swamped by school work (Chemistry and Physics at the same time), and haven't been on point with the diet or cardio. I mean, I've been hitting my calorie and macronutrient target, 150-200 grams of protein a day -mostly from eggs, cottage cheese, whey isolate, black beans and nuts and fill the rest in with mostly complex carbs (brown/wild rice/quinoa/black beans etc) and healthy fats (avocado/mixed nuts/mct oil etc). But you know, getting such good results with such a poor execution on my part, is making me want to see what kind of true potential there is for 5-Alpha Test.

    Now, I'm guessing that this sudden weight change in the last 4 days is mostly bloat reduction than actual fat loss, unless they're spiking it with DNP lol. JUST KIDDING, FRL is an awesome and totally respectable company. That being said, the second week is usually when I start seeing results on a cut, so, it is possible that some % is more than water weight reduction. I think we will know what's really going on by how the weight reduction continues throughout he run, if it continues at a decent rate then I would guess a decent amount of fat loss is occurring, however, if it slows down after then next week or so then it was most likely a loss of water weight.

    Diet adherence: ~80%, I just need to be eating more salads/green drinks for the beneficial micronutrients/fiber and relying less on dairy proteins.
    Cardio Score: 4/14, Considering the goal for two weeks was ~8, that's TERRIBLE. WILL CHANGE.

    Stay tuned for more to come!
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.
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  3. Subbed . would u say this gives u a pwo boast . what if u doubled the dose? lethargy does not sound too good

  4. Quote Originally Posted by klint View Post
    Subbed . would u say this gives u a pwo boast . what if u doubled the dose? lethargy does not sound too good
    Hey Klint, yeah there is definitely a preworkout aspect. There were times during the first two weeks when in moments of being confined to little activity, like driving 15+ minutes, that I would just start pumping out some isometric contractions just because I felt such a strong need to act. The mental drive is very apparent, however I have had some moments of exaggerated aggression, but that just takes a little self awareness to keep a cap on until I get back to the gym. Then it's game time.

    As far as the lethargy goes, it was relatively mild, with an onset of ~45 minutes in and lasting maybe 30 minutes. This happened sporadicly, usually following a strong stim sensation, which leads me to guess that it may have simply been my body learning to deal with the extra hormone - of which it has never had much of. So, the lethargy may in fact be a side effect which is seen in my unique situation, and even then it lasted about 10 days.

    Quick updates:

    weighed in today at 183.3 lb., but I'm not too worried about it as I'm pretty sure it is due to the high sodium consumption over the weekend on top of a BCAA supplement I picked up that I haven't tried before which has extra electrolytes.

    Other than that everything's great, I haven't personally noticed a lot of observable changes, but a few pants are fitting slightly looser and my gym partner has commented that I'm looking leaner.

    I'll post up an official update within the next couple days.

    Have a good week!
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  5. Thanks for the heads up rambo and good luck
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  6. Okiedokie, time for another update:

    5-Alpha Test experience, Day 21!:

    Today's weight was 181.8,
    not to shabby!

    Recent weight measurements:

    10/06: 188.4
    10/09: 187.6
    10/12: 186.6
    10/15: 186.2
    10/18: 184.8
    10/19: 182.3?!
    10/23: 183.3
    10/26: 181.8

    Net loss: 6.6 lb.

    Diet:
    So, not bad progress. The weight-loss has been really sporadic which is weird because my diet has bee pretty consistent while slowly tightening it up. I decided to try a week or two without the mass amounts of dairy I've been having lately, so I picked up a decent pea/hemp/rice protein mix in a couple different flavors. I've only tried dutch chocolate fudge so far, and the only thing I tasted was chalk... maybe chocolate chalk lol... It puts the 'chalk' in 'chalkolate'.. Ok I'm done. Anyways, it's not nearly as satisfying as the whey mixes I've been having lately, but it'll have to do. I'm also considering doing a second trial run of this diet I created and tested last summer during my last cut. I call it the CPG diet, nothing but coffee and protein until 12:00 midday, then protein and 'green drink' (apple, avocado, celery, kale, rainbow chard, spinach, parsley thrown in a blender). It's f*cking crazy, and will make you crazy, but damn did it work well last time -something like a 5-6 lb loss in 5 days and retained all strength. I was definitely looking flat by the end, but as soon as I carbed back up I was looking FLY, EVERYONE I knew that saw me the day after was like 'WTF'. I'm going to modify it this time to include a fresh fruit/veggie salad w/ honey mustard dressing carb up every 4th day.

    Cardio Score: 6/21
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    This is still very poor but I kind of have an excuse. I haven't been able to sprint for the last year or so because of this terrible pain in my shins and feet, but I finally went to a podiatrist who said he could help me out. So hopefully that will change, I'm dying to sprint again. Seriously, there is nothing more human than letting loose on a 100 meter dash. Until then, I'm really tired of the stationary bike routine, I just can't do it! But, I'll keep going, knowing that the sprint is within grasp again is encouraging.

    As far as 5-Alpha Test goes, I'm liking the compound quite a bit, I'm almost certain I wouldn't be down 7 pounds by now without it.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  7. youre doing pretty good dude. id say just keep your cardio down if youre already losing fat without losing strength

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper View Post
    youre doing pretty good dude. id say just keep your cardio down if youre already losing fat without losing strength
    You think upping the cardio would be the tipping point which would push me towards eating muscle/strength loss? I agree it's a valid concern. The only thing is I need to start training for a mud race I've committed to for this summer (the reason for seeing the podiatrist).

    I'm also not 100% on the diet change, I might test it out, on and off over the next week to see how realistic it is for right now.

    Decisions decisions..

    Thanks for the input though.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  9. Good reading here. Keep up the details
    Here is my loghttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216779-bigguy-vs-wilpit.htmlhttp://supplementreviews.com/users/mhseaver670/reviews

  10. Quote Originally Posted by bigguyn10ec View Post
    Good reading here. Keep up the details
    Thanks Big Guy! I appreciate the encouragement.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  11. X2 on that

  12. I apologize for the lack of updates, I took a new job this week and they are having me work opening and closing shifts all week. I guess they are testing me.

    As for updates:

    My morning weight has remained stable within .5 pounds (+/-) of 181.8. The bad news is I have begun to experience strength loss. This is obviously an effect of the diet rather than 5-Alpha, but I wanted to see how far I could push the calorie deficit without a loss of strength on 5-Alpha and ended up pushing back that normally restricting barrier for about 3 weeks. Now, in light of these developments I have brought calories back up to just below maintenance (within 250) and plan to let cardio take over the job of fat loss rather than relying almost solely on calorie restriction. This will be easier to do and much more fun when my orthotics arrive at the docs and I can work back into sprinting again.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  13. All the best for ur new job pal. so mirror wise r u looking a lot leaner . lb of fat has quite some mass so even with ur water.weight loss to u should be getting some where

  14. Well that's the interesting thing. Earlier I had thought that some clothes were fitting looser, but wasn't noticing any visual changes in the mirror. On the flip side, I had gotten a couple comments on looking leaner.

    But, in the end you will get to be the judge of that when I put up the finishing pics.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  15. Is ur cal increase from carbs??? As if they have been low ur muscles should be looking very full or and has the 5 alpha also helped with them not looking flat on ur cut?? Lol sorry for al questions pal

  16. The 5-Alpha has definitely increased blood-flow during exercise, veins pop out of my skin when lifting that I am not even aware of otherwise, but I have absolutely noticed an increase in fullness since the upping of cals (yes a majority are from carbs).

    I will be restarting my spin bike HIIT routine tomorrow, but taking it to a new level to stay engaged until my orthotics arrive.

    Still dabbling with the idea of the mostly liquid diet..

    Now worries about the questions man, that's what the log is for!
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  17. Day 39:

    Updates:


    Again, my apologies for the lack of updates. Work has been hectic, and then my computer crashed about a week ago lol. When it rains it pours.

    Weight:
    Yesterday I weighed in at 184 lb even. This has been steady since reintroducing more carbs in an attempt to reduce strength loss during my calorie deficit.

    Strength:
    Strength took a significant dip a couple weeks ago and has been fluctuating up and down within that margin ever since. I started a short periodization lifting program to test whether or not I could remedy the situation with a change in training volume and intensity. I'm going to be testing my 5 rep max's about a week or two before I end this run, which will be a good finalizing note on whether or not 5-Alpha helped me retain strength during this stage of my cut.

    More to come this week!
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  18. Day 47:

    So, I've been playing with the dosing of 5-Alpha in order to give a more detailed review of the short term effects of the compound.

    I finally tried taking two tabs at once and WOW. The mental kick is crazy. We are talking serious aggression and motivation, but without a negative tint, really good time. I popped two a half hour before an arm session in the gym and produced some of the more dramatic vascularity in my arms I've seen yet. I mean, I never saw this kind of vascularity even when I was my leanest. Being that I'm not particularly lean right now, having veins popping down the biceps spidering all over my forearms was completely unexpected and really f*cking cool lol. The only downside is that the lifting-induced pump lasted maybe 20 minutes after leaving the gym. Combining this will a solid pump-product would be mindblowing, I might try it when this log is up. It would be for no benefit other than ridiculous in-gym-ego-vanity-boosting-vascularity lol, unless the 2nd product prolonged the pump.. But outside of in-gym pumps, I'm looking for real muscle gains rather than ballooning for a couple hours lol.

    Regardless, it was a fun experiment that I've started making a regular thing over the last couple days. Those long shifts at work just fly by now.


    Whose hitting the gym before Thanksgiving dinner for some mondo carb backloading tomorrow?!?!

    *THIS GUY*

    I hope you all have a good one.



    Side note, I have been hitting the HIIT bike routines hard. 45 minutes a pop, anywhere from 400-600 cals burned. Hopefully this will speed things up while I'm still waiting on the orthotics to come in. I actually saw the doc yesterday to pick them up, but the manufacturer f'ed them up apparently. Oh well, I'm getting a 2nd pair free.. and a lot more biking lol.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  19. Day 53:

    So, I'm sticking steady right around 184 still, which is interesting considering I've been upping the HIIT.

    Strength has stayed steady since the initial short drop about week 3.

    I'm starting to think maybe this product is best if used in short cycles? I saw a dramatic improvement the first 3 weeks, and since then not much has happened. Maybe a 3 week run with 2-3 weeks off and then another 3 weeks would be an interesting experiment to see if similar effects would be had the 2nd 3 week stint.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  20. Have you noticed anything in terms of hair loss/shedding? I'm just curious since 5-AT is a DHT prohormone which, as we all know, is the hair loss culprit in genetically susceptible folks.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    Have you noticed anything in terms of hair loss/shedding? I'm just curious since 5-AT is a DHT prohormone which, as we all know, is the hair loss culprit in genetically susceptible folks.
    Haha, man, you gotta get a hold of that paranoia. Although, I know it's really easy to get psyched out with stuff like this.

    Pops was bald by 20, both grandfather's were bald, so you'd think that if it was going to happen to someone it would happen to me, but I seem to be doing just fine.
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.

  22. SOOOO,

    The run is over, pics are taken, now I just need to find the time to do the final write up.

    Stay tuned!
    My parents created my body, in which I create my mind. I will honor them, by developing both to their utmost potential.
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