Recreating Creatine? Creatrona Log- Rahl ~sponsored

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    For those that don't know big fuggin news here!!! Welcome our New FINAFLEX Reps...
    Great pickups. You guys are growing like crazy.

    Well I hate to say it but no gym time for me today. I got stuck at work too late to get there. That hasn't happened in a long time and I'm not happy about it. But, I will go tomorrow instead. Way too much work to get done yet too but I can't complain about having work now can I?


  2. Not sure if its the creatine or the Preworkout but I just keep getting stronger. I'm loving this combo.

    Legs

    10 min elliptical runner

    Squats:barx15,135x15,225x12,27 5x8,315x6 motherfuka!!!
    Seated calf raise:140x12,140x12,140x15
    Stiff dead:135x12,185x10,225x6

    Shoulder press:110x11,130x7
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  3. Combination of both for sure but the amnosterone would be well kicked in by this time...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  4. Not sure if I've mentioned it but I kinda love this stuff.


    Chest

    10 min elliptical

    Bb bench:barx15,135x15,225x8,245x 5 PR
    Incline DB bench:80x12,90x5,90x6 PR
    Pec dec:175x10,175x8,175x7
    Rope tri press:130x12,130x11,130x9
    Machine dip:210x10,210x9,210x6


    Mo PRs!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Not sure if I've mentioned it but I kinda love this stuff.


    Chest

    10 min elliptical

    Bb bench:barx15,135x15,225x8,245x 5 PR
    Incline DB bench:80x12,90x5,90x6 PR
    Pec dec:175x10,175x8,175x7
    Rope tri press:130x12,130x11,130x9
    Machine dip:210x10,210x9,210x6


    Mo PRs!
    I knew this would give pumps, better workouts hence growth but I am pretty surpised that it gives such a boost in strength. I am long past ever being able to lift what I once could but I do notice some good strength from this.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I knew this would give pumps, better workouts hence growth but I am pretty surpised that it gives such a boost in strength. I am long past ever being able to lift what I once could but I do notice some good strength from this.
    I had taken almost 2 months away from any type of creatine so I knew I would pick up some strength and even a little weight as I usually do with any creatine. I am very surprised by how much strength I'm gaining here though. All of my lifts are going up significantly. PR's in squats and Bench? Yessir, I'll take it! LOL

    Now I"m afraid to see what happens when I run out! I will pick up more to run at a more "normal" dosage and see where my strength lands. I don't normally train for strength but I am training for size right now and the 2 more often than not go hand in hand so I'm happy to gain.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I had taken almost 2 months away from any type of creatine so I knew I would pick up some strength and even a little weight as I usually do with any creatine. I am very surprised by how much strength I'm gaining here though. All of my lifts are going up significantly. PR's in squats and Bench? Yessir, I'll take it! LOL

    Now I"m afraid to see what happens when I run out! I will pick up more to run at a more "normal" dosage and see where my strength lands. I don't normally train for strength but I am training for size right now and the 2 more often than not go hand in hand so I'm happy to gain.
    Progression is possibly the most important thing but strength gain will definitely help you grow.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Last night was back and biceps

    Back bi

    Elliptical warmup:10 min

    Pull-ups wide:12,8,7
    Barbell row:135x15,155x12,155x10
    Tbar:135x15,180x10,180x8
    DB shrug:95x13,100x12,100x8
    Db Hammer curl:40x10,40x8,40x7
    Cable row:150x10,150x6,150x7
    Camber curl:80x9,90x5
    Bench knee raise:35,25

    Solid workout. Skipped the face pulls this week due to some nagging shoulder pain. Trying to pin point the cause. Those t bars felt good. Might be going up again next week.
    Got very little sleep last night though so I'm sore as hell today.
    Well if sleep has been a little restless which it sounds like it has from the need for Need2Sleep then possibly you could be lying on your arm with it up over your head. I tend to get an annoying tweak in my shoulder from doing this every once in a while and have to be cognoscente of that fact and try to keep my arms no higher than shoulder height. How I have gotten better at this is when I lay on my side where I would normally extend my bottom arm up and under the pillow I put my hand under the pillow cradling my head and then put my top hand across my biceps kind of cupping it. I actually find it is a really comfortable position and I feel really secure so falling asleep is easier. My hand being over my biceps kind of helps keep my subconscious mind aware of my lower arms position during sleep and I wake up when I move it and then just put it back and fall right back to sleep. I know sounds weird but if that has anything to do with it you will notice relief with the fist day or two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    I had taken almost 2 months away from any type of creatine so I knew I would pick up some strength and even a little weight as I usually do with any creatine. I am very surprised by how much strength I'm gaining here though. All of my lifts are going up significantly. PR's in squats and Bench? Yessir, I'll take it! LOL

    Now I"m afraid to see what happens when I run out! I will pick up more to run at a more "normal" dosage and see where my strength lands. I don't normally train for strength but I am training for size right now and the 2 more often than not go hand in hand so I'm happy to gain.
    SOunds great for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Progression is possibly the most important thing but strength gain will definitely help you grow.
    Well part of progression is increasing the weight, just remember to do it in baby steps. As we talked about a pound or two of added progression is enough to cause adaptation and the key to remaining safe is to adapt at a speed your tendons and joints can keep up with.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Well if sleep has been a little restless which it sounds like it has from the need for Need2Sleep then possibly you could be lying on your arm with it up over your head. I tend to get an annoying tweak in my shoulder from doing this every once in a while and have to be cognoscente of that fact and try to keep my arms no higher than shoulder height. How I have gotten better at this is when I lay on my side where I would normally extend my bottom arm up and under the pillow I put my hand under the pillow cradling my head and then put my top hand across my biceps kind of cupping it. I actually find it is a really comfortable position and I feel really secure so falling asleep is easier. My hand being over my biceps kind of helps keep my subconscious mind aware of my lower arms position during sleep and I wake up when I move it and then just put it back and fall right back to sleep. I know sounds weird but if that has anything to do with it you will notice relief with the fist day or two.

    SOunds great for sure.

    Well part of progression is increasing the weight, just remember to do it in baby steps. As we talked about a pound or two of added progression is enough to cause adaptation and the key to remaining safe is to adapt at a speed your tendons and joints can keep up with.
    Chris, you hit right on what I believe is a huge part of my shoulder pain. I've been trying to sleep differently as I do sleep exactly the way you describe with my arms above. In going to give you system a **** for a while bro. Appreciate the tip.

    What I normally do for progression is allow myself to get considerably higher reps at a weight before actually moving it up to a new weight. I've been doing this for the past year. It really seems to be keeping the joint pain at a minimum which is huge for us older guys.

    Recently I have dropped one of my lighter sets in my pyramid up an its made a big difference in all of my lifts.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Well part of progression is increasing the weight, just remember to do it in baby steps. As we talked about a pound or two of added progression is enough to cause adaptation and the key to remaining safe is to adapt at a speed your tendons and joints can keep up with.
    True but stength gain is not always there and progression still works to give gains. For example I sometimes to make it all the way back up to 100% capacity on all my lifts but still get the benefit of the progression. That's why it's important for an old fugger like me as I have seen better strength days.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  11. Seriously lacking sleep going into this one. Not for any good reason just working late and having to unwind a bit after. I've learned that I'm better off staying up later until my mind relaxes than trying to go to sleep. In the end I get more rest by going to bed later. Didn't sleep much more last night though either. Lol anyway, pretty solid workout for being as tired as I was.

    Back and biceps

    10 min adjustable runner

    Pull ups wide:12,8,5
    Bob row:155x12,155x12,155x11
    T bar row:180x10,180x10,180x9
    DB shrug:95x13,100x13,100x13
    Incline DB curl:35x13,35x11,35x8
    DB hammer curl:45x7,45x7,45x6

  12. G8
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  13. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
    G8
    Nah. It wouldn't have mattered man. It's simply a matter of not leaving time for sleep right now. I'm sleeping fine once I get there but in working so much I'm having trouble finding the time. I won't work the evenings. I spend that time with my kids. After they go to bed I get back to work. I won't sacrifice that time with them for money. I look at any work as selling my time with my kids. It's priceless time that I'll never get back so if it costs me sleep so be it. It's worth it all.

  14. Well the run is done. I have to say I was pretty sad shaking those last 4 caps out of the bottle! LOL

    Creatrona has just taken it's place in my top 3 creatine supplements. I would really like to (and probably will) pick up enough to run for a few months solid and see just how long the strength gains can keep coming. Over the run here I picked up considerable strength. I also put on 6-7 lbs but that may be attributed to the fact that I started a bulk diet at the same time. My calories were only about 300-500 higher than normal though.

    This stuff gives ridiculous pumps at 4 pills preworkout. For fun, try 6. That was a great pump. Similar in strength to Creatine Nitrate without the pain part.

    I hit PR's in Bench and Squat throughout the run. I wish I had been deadlifting to see if that would have hit new highs too. That's an experiment for another day I guess!

    I saw no excessive bloat while using this product which I know is a big concern for many with creatine products. I'm not terribly prone to bloat anyway but for me this was one of the better in this dept.

    For what they are charging for this stuff you cant go wrong. I personally really like having a capped creatine product but I know that they have released the powder also if you prefer that method of dosing. At any rate I highly recommend giving this a try. Very solid creatine product and let's face it, we all need creatine.

    Thanks again to DW and AL for letting me log this one out. This high dose run was a whole lotta fun!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    True but stength gain is not always there and progression still works to give gains. For example I sometimes to make it all the way back up to 100% capacity on all my lifts but still get the benefit of the progression. That's why it's important for an old fugger like me as I have seen better strength days.
    No doubt, you don't ever have to hit 100% max effort to keep progressing a nice deload will keep that all in check or simply changing the lift or reps scheme.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Chris, you hit right on what I believe is a huge part of my shoulder pain. I've been trying to sleep differently as I do sleep exactly the way you describe with my arms above. In going to give you system a **** for a while bro. Appreciate the tip.

    What I normally do for progression is allow myself to get considerably higher reps at a weight before actually moving it up to a new weight. I've been doing this for the past year. It really seems to be keeping the joint pain at a minimum which is huge for us older guys.

    Recently I have dropped one of my lighter sets in my pyramid up an its made a big difference in all of my lifts.
    I hope that worked out for you man it has really been a great realization for me. I am 2 surgeries in on these shoulders and when I am sleeping wrong it causes a different nagging feeling than when I am over using it or the dreaded cold front!!! Low barometric pressure equals high joint pressure every time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Nah. It wouldn't have mattered man. It's simply a matter of not leaving time for sleep right now. I'm sleeping fine once I get there but in working so much I'm having trouble finding the time. I won't work the evenings. I spend that time with my kids. After they go to bed I get back to work. I won't sacrifice that time with them for money. I look at any work as selling my time with my kids. It's priceless time that I'll never get back so if it costs me sleep so be it. It's worth it all.
    I am going to be incorporating G8 into this next phase and will start logging my Creatrona, Pure Test, PCT Black, Ignite 2, G8 and Cell Shock experience soon. Will be recovering from a long bit of cruising. I will be hitting up Wendlers 5/3/1 for the first time ever, first time actually doing a power lifting routine actually. I am very stoked. I swear Wendler wrote that thing for us aging guys who have always been to intense for our own good after finally reading it. I dismissed it for so long but I think it is what I need to push my leg and arm development to the next level without killing my joints.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    Well the run is done. I have to say I was pretty sad shaking those last 4 caps out of the bottle! LOL

    Creatrona has just taken it's place in my top 3 creatine supplements. I would really like to (and probably will) pick up enough to run for a few months solid and see just how long the strength gains can keep coming. Over the run here I picked up considerable strength. I also put on 6-7 lbs but that may be attributed to the fact that I started a bulk diet at the same time. My calories were only about 300-500 higher than normal though.

    This stuff gives ridiculous pumps at 4 pills preworkout. For fun, try 6. That was a great pump. Similar in strength to Creatine Nitrate without the pain part.

    I hit PR's in Bench and Squat throughout the run. I wish I had been deadlifting to see if that would have hit new highs too. That's an experiment for another day I guess!

    I saw no excessive bloat while using this product which I know is a big concern for many with creatine products. I'm not terribly prone to bloat anyway but for me this was one of the better in this dept.

    For what they are charging for this stuff you cant go wrong. I personally really like having a capped creatine product but I know that they have released the powder also if you prefer that method of dosing. At any rate I highly recommend giving this a try. Very solid creatine product and let's face it, we all need creatine.

    Thanks again to DW and AL for letting me log this one out. This high dose run was a whole lotta fun!
    Excellent review and log Rahl! Please remember to copy and paste your review into the product review section HERE
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Training Log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/276206-kleen-strong-body.html

  16. Whew what a log and I have to say, not that I was a skeptic but I have never seen Creatine do what this stuff does for people. I didn't expect a whole bunch of PR's or mass gain. I just thought it would give really great workouts and pumps... which it does but the extra's I am seeing are quite impressive.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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