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    CelorzA,remwmber u arw a body builder.Not a power lifter.So u should always feel your repa.Every bodybuilder incorporates power lifting and strength training routines in there mix to help with mass and strength..but bbing and PL arw two different worlds...so remember what u r and train that way....and u dont have to just agree with someone cause there a rep or been here longer ..what works for u works and if u r learning and making gains,stick with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    You need to learn the difference between training a muscle and training a movement.
    I know plenty about training for a movement..but he is a bodybuilder and trains as a bodybuilder with strength training routines incorporated.

    You need to learn the diff betwwen the 2 amd learn how to incorporate both while not forgetting what you train for and in Cellys case now,hes a bodybuilder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    I know plenty about training for a movement..but he is a bodybuilder and trains as a bodybuilder with strength training routines incorporated.

    You need to learn the diff betwwen the 2 amd learn how to incorporate both while not forgetting what you train for and in Cellys case now,hes a bodybuilder.
    Except for that whole 5/3/1 thing that he's following, which, in case you didn't know, is routed in PL'ing ergo makes the first lift about the movement and not a specific muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    Except for that whole 5/3/1 thing that he's following, which, in case you didn't know, is routed in PL'ing ergo makes the first lift about the movement and not a specific muscle.
    Dude,i know..but u r off topic.My reply was to your comment,which i am at work and dont have time to copy n paste now...but im not talking routines but one bite of advice u gave.
    Simething like" whwn u are luftung heavy,no mind to muscle it dont matter cause u r not training a body part" or whatever sillyness u said...lol...stay on track kid,itll be alright
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    CelorzA,remwmber u arw a body builder.Not a power lifter.So u should always feel your repa.Every bodybuilder incorporates power lifting and strength training routines in there mix to help with mass and strength..but bbing and PL arw two different worlds...so remember what u r and train that way....and u dont have to just agree with someone cause there a rep or been here longer ..what works for u works and if u r learning and making gains,stick with it
    Jay I wanna be a Powerlifter haha , not a Bodybuilder . I think I might have not made that clear ! I still want to try and attempt my Powerlifting Venues, and I want to compete in either 1-3 years depending on my progression (Realistically I wanna be doing it by 2 years, but my friend says I could have a shot in next years August meet haha). I do think that MM connection has a point in all this though, specially on the assistances where I have to mainly focus on getting each muscle stronger . Both you and Rodja are correct to a certain point. Power movements will be without thinking them much, just thinking on staying tight and exploding , and MM connection will be done for Hypertrophy-geared assistances !
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    Except for that whole 5/3/1 thing that he's following, which, in case you didn't know, is routed in PL'ing ergo makes the first lift about the movement and not a specific muscle.
    That's why I picked 5/3/1 . Thanks for the advice Rodja I really appreciate it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    Jay I wanna be a Powerlifter haha , not a Bodybuilder . I think I might have not made that clear ! I still want to try and attempt my Powerlifting Venues, and I want to compete in either 1-3 years depending on my progression (Realistically I wanna be doing it by 2 years, but my friend says I could have a shot in next years August meet haha). I do think that MM connection has a point in all this though, specially on the assistances where I have to mainly focus on getting each muscle stronger . Both you and Rodja are correct to a certain point. Power movements will be without thinking them much, just thinking on staying tight and exploding , and MM connection will be done for Hypertrophy-geared assistances !

    That's why I picked 5/3/1 . Thanks for the advice Rodja I really appreciate it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    I respect ya will!! But queation your loyalty to who u are.

    Dont be scared,u change opinions often to please others on here..Its not what makes a man!
    Jay check the OP , and my posts since around...hm...May? I decided upon Powerlifting then. I found a way to be at peace with myself...I want power and strength...My physique is important only to a degree, my main wish and desire is to be stronger than many of the people I know, and I don't wanna stop until I do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Dude,i know..but u r off topic.My reply was to your comment,which i am at work and dont have time to copy n paste now...but im not talking routines but one bite of advice u gave.
    Simething like" whwn u are luftung heavy,no mind to muscle it dont matter cause u r not training a body part" or whatever sillyness u said...lol...stay on track kid,itll be alright
    However, your ignorance on the topic shows by you, once again, running your mouth when you are highly ill-informed. He's made it very clear that his goal is PL and the very fact that you missed that shows that you should sit back and make sure your opinion is relevant. When training a movement (e.g. squat, bench) you are focused on the MOVEMENT, not a muscle since there is not a specific muscle that is being worked. If you'll take a moment to read, you'll notice that I said on the main movement there is not a M-M connection as there is not a specific group that is being worked. You obviously do not understand PL'ing at all and you need to educate yourself on said topic before you keep offering advice.
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    I revere Rodja as one of the smartest men in this forum...not only for his knowledge about training but also for his career as a personal trainer that is well known here in Texas...Not to mention he is also one of the most educated people in online forums about Exercise Science, kinesiology and anatomy...he is even a renowned published author...PES is lucky to have him actually.
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    Back to the topic.......Killin it Celly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123
    Back to the topic.......Killin it Celly!
    Thanks buddy !
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Back to the topic.......Killin it Celly!
    That he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    That he is.
    Thanks Rodja! Means a lot !
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    I came back and starting reading the last couple pages and forgot for a minute that this log wasn't on BB.com. So much spice. Better now that we can move on and see Celly continue to crush it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I came back and starting reading the last couple pages and forgot for a minute that this log wasn't on BB.com. So much spice. Better now that we can move on and see Celly continue to crush it.
    LOL +1 Cel knows his **** and will continue to crush the iron in front of him, on him, or below him
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    Alright! Maybe 11 pages late , but I am in! About time you logged something Celly!

    Keep Killing it my good man! Excited to see this pan out!

    Can you plz be kind enough to layout your breakdown of HIIT, I have read too many articles to understand it, and what used to feel like HIIT to me when I started, (7.2mph incline of 3) now feels standard, and I am scared of going further due to bad knees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I came back and starting reading the last couple pages and forgot for a minute that this log wasn't on BB.com. So much spice. Better now that we can move on and see Celly continue to crush it.
    Thanks Brother Dewey !
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    LOL +1 Cel knows his **** and will continue to crush the iron in front of him, on him, or below him
    You are very kind my friend thanks!.
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    Alright! Maybe 11 pages late , but I am in! About time you logged something Celly!

    Keep Killing it my good man! Excited to see this pan out!

    Can you plz be kind enough to layout your breakdown of HIIT, I have read too many articles to understand it, and what used to feel like HIIT to me when I started, (7.2mph incline of 3) now feels standard, and I am scared of going further due to bad knees.
    Welcome bro! Ok usual HIIT protocol I do:

    Be it for Elliptical or outside Running:
    -5 minute warm up jog.
    -6-10 sets of:
    -30 second ALL OUT sprint. + 1 minute cooldown.
    -1 last sprint of 1 minute or a bit more, just a little shy of failure.
    -5 minute cool down jog/walk.

    If I feel I need more, I merely add more sets . Hope that helps bro!

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    -Sleep is now featuring vivid dreams, on the bright side most of the dream is real nice and pleasant...until it turns into a rather vivid Nightmare ! (I have Night Terrors, so the little amount of good dreams I get is amazing)
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    You do your HIIT cardio on a tredmil? If I had a track within walking distance of my apartment if probably be much more likely to do it. Sprint the straights, walk/light jog the turn for 2 miles with warm up & cool down being walking to and from the track. Probably 30min total with 20 being the HIIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    You do your HIIT cardio on a tredmil? If I had a track within walking distance of my apartment if probably be much more likely to do it. Sprint the straights, walk/light jog the turn for 2 miles with warm up & cool down being walking to and from the track. Probably 30min total with 20 being the HIIT.
    I never do HIIT on a treadmill anymore :/ I rather outside. I wrote it as Elliptical Machine OR outside running haha, I don't like HIIT on treadmills anymore, I found that I can sprint faster and control the time lengths better outside !

    Oh and I do have 2 tracks at walking distance from my apartment xD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    I never do HIIT on a treadmill anymore :/ I rather outside. I wrote it as Elliptical Machine OR outside running haha, I don't like HIIT on treadmills anymore, I found that I can sprint faster and control the time lengths better outside !

    Oh and I do have 2 tracks at walking distance from my apartment xD!
    I do my HIIT with a prowler. Am I doing it wrong? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    I do my HIIT with a prowler. Am I doing it wrong? Lol
    You are doing it right ! I don't have a Prowler ...oh HIIT on a rower is also good haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    You are doing it right ! I don't have a Prowler ...oh HIIT on a rower is also good haha.
    I have access to rowers but I always feel like I'm doing crossfit when I do it so I just don't
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    Treadmill HIIT is a bit annoying and I have started to notice it of late, since I spend half the time dallying with the settings and less time actually running.

    30 seconds -45 seconds of running, 15 seconds of spazzing around with the controls, another 15 seconds at desired resting rate, get bored, jump of treadmill, perv at the hot chicks in the pool

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    I find treadmill HIIT to be too complicated. Much easier to just hit the local HS tracks for a great sprint workout. Been killing my prowler lately though. Seems things are still going strong in here. Good luck in this strength journey man.
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    I prefer treamill HIIT because thats all I'm used to... but more often than not I seem to break the treadmills weather is just now getting to that perfect temp for outside running (for me) and I may have to try it outside !
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    I want to go run sprints at the park but I'm scared I'll step in a hole or something. I used to hit the high school football field during the summer when nobody was there
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    Day 14, 10/04


    Supps used Pre-workout:
    -2 scoops TP
    -2 Caps AB
    -2g COP
    -9g Citrulline Malate

    Bench Press day:

    Warm Up:
    -75x5
    -95x5
    -115x3

    Working Sets:
    -135x3
    -150x3
    -170x3+2 Total of 5 reps.
    -175x2
    -180x1
    -185x1 PR finally got it with a 2 second wait at the bottom simulating the Press call.
    -190xF
    -190xF

    Attempted 190 and I consider them fails for 2 reasons , on both times I got it BUT , on the first one I struggled to power it up and I did NOT pause at the bottom. On the second one I did pause , went up to about as much as my floor press range, then it stayed there for 2~seconds and then my spotter graced his finger to simulate a push up...well he did push a tiny bit with his finger and thus it was not alone.

    Point being I did get finallt over my 185lb bench AFTER MONTHS! And 190 is on the way and it will be broken in the next weeks, it won't take me months this time...I think I'm getting the hang of which assistances and movements help my Bench press.
    Note: All sets were performed with a 2 second pause at the bottom to get used to waiting for the Press call...so it was a bit harder but it felt good, the Floor Presses are proving helpful in this aspect. Full ROM was performed.

    Shoulder assistance: Sitting Dumbbell Press (I hate using Dumbbells for this, but still elbows did go below parallel <in respect to the ground> on all reps and it felt lighter than usual).
    -50'sx10
    -50'sx10
    -50'sx10
    -50'sx10
    -50'sx12

    Had limited time at the gym and the only 2 squat racks were taken...and when I left my bench a guy took it and all the Barbells were being occupied...if not I could have Power cleaned for each set to get the bar up to my collar bone and then performed my usual OHP...but they say some change once in a while is not bad I guess.


    Back Assistance: Kroc Rows
    -80x10
    -80x10
    -80x10
    -70x15
    -70x10

    Triceps assistance: Cable Pushdowns with full ROM, forearms to biceps with a slow negative.
    -120x10
    -120x10
    -120x10
    -120x10
    -120x14

    Workout Notes:
    More than happy I finally broke my 185lb Bench Press with proper form, and a press call pause. Strength is finally rising like I want it to, and aggression/mood are on the rise too!! Recovery between sets is also improving, I no longer need to take up to 2-3 mins , I can do with 1:30-2 mins.

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    -Major increase in Libido and wet dreams.
    -No prolactin or estrogen sides to be noticed yet.
    -AnaBeta and my stomach made a fool out of me in Polymers class...since I sit at the front (for I enjoy Dr. Jones's lectures) and most of the time they are quiet and we all listen to his preaching of wisdom...Well today we were talking about Fracture Mechanics and he talked about the Liberty Ship Fractures in WWII...I know the cracks sounded like a gun going off since the cracks that split the ships in 2 go as fast as the speed of sound...but when he asked: "Any idea what they sounded like?" before I could answer my stomach gave the loudest growl! The whole class was silent at the moment...and when my hungry and roaring tummy went up...well...even Dr. Jones laughed...so yeah point is...I'm starving...and my stomach makes proof of it...


    Week 2 progress summary, stats and pictures.

    Weight as of this morning in the nude, and post bowel movements: 143.0 (+.6 lbs)

    So far on week two I have experienced:
    -Enhanced recovery in-between sets, and from night to morning.
    -Major Rise in Hunger
    -Rise in Aggression when lifting.
    -Good Strength and the breaking of a long standing PR (months).

    Progress Pics (Relaxed , no flex):
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    Hey celly i'm late but I just caught up on those twenty some pages.. The progress you have made this far is awesome dude, great work.. from the relaxed pictures I can visually see you've lost body fat while gaining muscle. Good work!!
    Your training is looking good the only thing I can say is that you should add some scapula work on press days (face pulls to be exact)


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    Quote Originally Posted by aceroni
    Hey celly i'm late but I just caught up on those twenty some pages.. The progress you have made this far is awesome dude, great work.. from the relaxed pictures I can visually see you've lost body fat while gaining muscle. Good work!!
    Your training is looking good the only thing I can say is that you should add some scapula work on press days (face pulls to be exact)

    Keep it up brother
    Hey bro welcome ! And thanks a lot for the comments bro !!

    I didn't know Face pulls worked the scapula! I shall try them thanks! I have actually seen some powerlifters do them, so it can't hurt to try them hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668
    Congrats on breaking your plateau.
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    Nice work Cel.
    Thanks guys! You really have no idea how frustrating it was to be crushed under a bar month after month hahaha. Now goal is to beat 190 baby steps haha.
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    Great job with the PR and the log in general Celorza. You're making some good progress. Big fan of face pulls too.
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    Nice work! When I was doing our strength program and guys failed on max lifts I'd yell "STAPLED!!!!" I was always the one spotting them, kind of a d!ck move but a lot said it motivated them. You want me to start doing it with you? Lol

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    Starting and current!

    First off congrats on the bench press PR bro! And as you see your chest is growing nicely along with your shoulders...for being all natty you certainly make nice progress at a great rate!!!
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    Nice update there Celly!
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