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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda
    Tired, unmotivated, no pump or endurance noticeable. Only USP product that let me down.
    All of the above right now...

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    Sorry to hear that, although I'm glad I'm not the only one who's felt that effect. I'm really trying to understand what's in that blend that's causing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda
    Sorry to hear that, although I'm glad I'm not the only one who's felt that effect. I'm really trying to understand what's in that blend that's causing it.
    I just had another good look at the ingredients & I have a feeling it's got something to do with the caffeine... I think it can give the crash effect if you're dehydrated, not well fed or not well rested... Also some people metabolise caffeine differently to others, people with fast metabolisms(me) process it so quick it leads almost straight to a crash, & there isn't a whole heap of caffeine in Micro... Even in the 2 scoops I take...
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    Nitrates guys. Some people have this reaction to them. I am not versed on the mechanisms of how they work but, this can happen with some people. I myself had good endurance and a nice pump from Micro but absolutely no mental stimulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Nitrates guys. Some people have this reaction to them. I am not versed on the mechanisms of how they work but, this can happen with some people. I myself had good endurance and a nice pump from Micro but absolutely no mental stimulation.
    I had one awesome workout last week off it though, every time after that sucked balls...
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    Would have been my guess too, but ConDense doesn't treat me like that at all and that's heavy on the nitrates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
    Nitrates guys. Some people have this reaction to them. I am not versed on the mechanisms of how they work but, this can happen with some people. I myself had good endurance and a nice pump from Micro but absolutely no mental stimulation.
    Something along the lines of "Methemoglobinemia"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    Would have been my guess too, but ConDense doesn't treat me like that at all and that's heavy on the nitrates.
    Only thing I could guess here is that Condense has a 200mg caffeine shot per scoop in it. Micro I'm unsure of it's caffeine content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    Something along the lines of "Methemoglobinemia"?
    No clue if this would be the issue
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    What I find is nitrates are great if taken daily just not right before a workout unless you load on stims to counter the sleepy effect of it.
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    The last 2x I took Micro, I took a scoop of Jack3d OG along with it... So I don't get it because that's got heavy stims...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    The last 2x I took Micro, I took a scoop of Jack3d OG along with it... So I don't get it because that's got heavy stims...
    You have to remember tolerance along with brain chemistry plays a role, you could try adding subthialamine to the mix or schizandra. You could also try adding ALCAR to the mix. The key is promote alertness and a rise in adrenaline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    Didn't work again... I actually feel tired instead... Wtf?
    it could be how you react to nitrates...does your bp run low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    it could be how you react to nitrates...does your bp run low?
    Mine was 120/60 at my physical last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    It did great things for me last week... This time I took it with some OG Jack3d & nothing at all...
    I wouldn't add the OG Jack3d with Micro. More isn't always better. They have very different MOA's and were were designed specifically as their own entity. Try mixing a scoop of Modern BCAA with Micro about 30 minutes prior to training. The sustamine may improve the effectiveness of this product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    Mine was 120/60 at my physical last week.
    if i am not mistaken nitrates cause a drop in bp, might be interesting if you could have it checked after dosing micro...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    if i am not mistaken nitrates cause a drop in bp, might be interesting if you could have it checked after dosing micro...
    correct, spinach is a natural way of taking nitrates to lower bp
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    correct, spinach is a natural way of taking nitrates to lower bp
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    Just read this thread. After almost an entire container myself. I can't argue with much if anything you said bigT.

    It seems like you and I get picked for a few logs of the same products? Are we a package deal? (No homo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Just read this thread. After almost an entire container myself. I can't argue with much if anything you said bigT.

    It seems like you and I get picked for a few logs of the same products? Are we a package deal? (No homo)
    it is my honor...dw!!! i think we both choose very carefully the products we are really interested in to put aps in for, unlike some who put in aps for every opportunity!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    it could be how you react to nitrates...does your bp run low?
    110/70 on Micro...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    110/70 on Micro...
    not really that low, can't see where that would be the problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    not really that low, can't see where that would be the problem!
    120/70 no Micro... Doesn't change much at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by diezel

    I wouldn't add the OG Jack3d with Micro. More isn't always better. They have very different MOA's and were were designed specifically as their own entity. Try mixing a scoop of Modern BCAA with Micro about 30 minutes prior to training. The sustamine may improve the effectiveness of this product.
    I'll try it with a serve of MP Amino1... It's got pretty much the same ingredient profile as Modern BCAA... That's going to be a tasty drink...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    I'll try it with a serve of MP Amino1... It's got pretty much the same ingredient profile as Modern BCAA...
    pretty much what i would do...experiment till i found the right mix that worked best for me....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    pretty much what i would do...experiment till i found the right mix that worked best for me....
    Let you know how I go...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    This is the 2nd time & I'm pretty disappointed to say the least... Kinda ruined my day because of the high hopes for the product... No one picked up on it possibly because they're puzzled by it also... I'm putting together my own PWO over the next few weeks or so...

    Did you also feel tired after taking it?
    By any chance have you been using preworkouts or any other stimulant based products for more than 8 weeks? Maybe take a break for a bit then try it again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbreed

    By any chance have you been using preworkouts or any other stimulant based products for more than 8 weeks? Maybe take a break for a bit then try it again?
    Nope... I came off a 3-4 break up until 2 weeks ago... Not a voluntary break mind you... Delivery time from the States had me waiting lol... Had some Superpump Max prior to the break... I don't drink coffee or energy drinks either... Water or Gatorade only...
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    2 scoops Micro + 1 scoop Amino1 = Win! Hopefully it continues to work like that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz View Post
    2 scoops Micro + 1 scoop Amino1 = Win! Hopefully it continues to work like that...
    right on....just had to find the right mix for you!!!
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