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  1. Yeah, I want to be lean for November. I dont think 5% is going to happen, but thats my goal. Starting to up reps, cardio, and lean the diet a little more.

    I think with three weeks to cut and 5 days to prep, I can change my body. The down fall is being on PCT. I dont want to cut carbs for the next three weeks because I have felt really strong in the gym, coming from lower carbs, I think it has helped to add a little more in. I am still on the low side averaging around 125-150. Last week out I was going to cut carbs to 50g a day for MON-Thurs, Friday Carb Load with 50g carbs per meal for 5 meals, and continue high water till 9pm as you stated.

    Workout and Cardio are def going to play a role now. I have been just working to maintain for the last several weeks, not even thinking of competeing till next year.


  2. Don't think like you won't reach the 5%, just tell yourself you will.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Yeah, I want to be lean for November. I dont think 5% is going to happen, but thats my goal. Starting to up reps, cardio, and lean the diet a little more.

    I think with three weeks to cut and 5 days to prep, I can change my body. The down fall is being on PCT. I dont want to cut carbs for the next three weeks because I have felt really strong in the gym, coming from lower carbs, I think it has helped to add a little more in. I am still on the low side averaging around 125-150. Last week out I was going to cut carbs to 50g a day for MON-Thurs, Friday Carb Load with 50g carbs per meal for 5 meals, and continue high water till 9pm as you stated.

    Workout and Cardio are def going to play a role now. I have been just working to maintain for the last several weeks, not even thinking of competeing till next year.
    Had you known about this last minute show you coulda stayed on .....

    But it is not seeming to affect you negatively as you are in great shape!!!!

    -Matt

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Had you known about this last minute show you coulda stayed on .....

    But it is not seeming to affect you negatively as you are in great shape!!!!

    -Matt
    Yeah, I am kicking myself in the a$$, but I amgoing to just dig deep these next three weeks. I am doing much better then expected with PCT. Really enjoying my workouts, and i do have to say DermaTherm has a bit to do with that. We all like instant gratification, and the burning sensation is what I compare that too. I work hard, I feel something happening, so I worke harder.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Yeah, I am kicking myself in the a$$, but I amgoing to just dig deep these next three weeks. I am doing much better then expected with PCT. Really enjoying my workouts, and i do have to say DermaTherm has a bit to do with that. We all like instant gratification, and the burning sensation is what I compare that too. I work hard, I feel something happening, so I worke harder.

    Very good to hear --- and honestly DermaTherm is perfect for a guy like you who is ALREADY LEAN!

    Keep applying to the stubborn areas and the good news is --- you should technically be

    holding water in the areas applied due to yohimbine's affect on aldosterone.

    Once you cease its usage you will clear any water and see those areas lean and dry!

    I try to get in good enough shape that EVEN while using topical yohimbine I still look dry

    -Matt
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Very good to hear --- and honestly DermaTherm is perfect for a guy like you who is ALREADY LEAN!

    Keep applying to the stubborn areas and the good news is --- you should technically be

    holding water in the areas applied due to yohimbine's affect on aldosterone.

    Once you cease its usage you will clear any water and see those areas lean and dry!

    I try to get in good enough shape that EVEN while using topical yohimbine I still look dry

    -Matt
    Yeah, I found it interesting with dermatherm that you didn't realize how good the results were until a couple days after ceasing. I saw progress on, but alot more at the end.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Yeah, I found it interesting with dermatherm that you didn't realize how good the results were until a couple days after ceasing. I saw progress on, but alot more at the end.
    That's really encouraging!

  8. Started cardio 45 min ED on stair stepper. I was on fire Sunday after cardio. Also hitting 2 gals a day of water right now.

    On work days, I hit abs for 10 min as soon as I wake up before getting ready for work. Off days I will still start with fasted cardio, abs, cales.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Started cardio 45 min ED on stair stepper. I was on fire Sunday after cardio. Also hitting 2 gals a day of water right now.

    On work days, I hit abs for 10 min as soon as I wake up before getting ready for work. Off days I will still start with fasted cardio, abs, cales.
    I really need to get myself in the havit of doing this, I just suck at getting up early.
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  10. Yesterday went well, got off work, applied DermaTherm, Changed and hit the gym. Did back, rib cage, abs, obliques, and cardio.

    My workout felt weak, I was disapointed with my back workout,

    Started with Bent over BB rows, 3sets of 12 then Reverse grip 3 sets of 12 light weight 155lbs.

    Then supersetted Lat pull downs and Row Pull downs on HammerStrength 3 sets each 10-12 reps

    Next I tripple setted, Staight leg deads, Hyperextensions, and pullovers for the rib cage.
    4 sets Deads 10 reps, Hypers 10 reps, Pullovers 12-15 reps

    Then did some T bar rows with obliques

    then abs and cardio.

    I did 25 minute stair stepper and 20 minutes on the stationairy bike. back to back. Goal was 45 stair stepper but I was tired after work.

    I wore a sweater while doing cardio, my midsection was hotter then ever. It was a very good burn.

  11. Workout sounded pretty good to me.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Workout sounded pretty good to me.
    Yeah I was worn out, work beat me up yesterday. I think I just felt worn out. Plan on hitting Shoulders, Tri's and Bi's tonight. Hopefully I can get in the zone.

    I will finish up with abs and cardio.

    Abs in the morning is feeling good.

  13. I will train ABS YEAR AROUND NOW.

    I used to only train them while dieting -- simply because I had them built from heavy lifting...

    Well -- I had someone preach to me that abs always need attention all year for lower back support and lifting heavier.

    Also -- who doesnt want deeply etched bricks? Mine were always good when lean, but I want them great.

    -matt

  14. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    I will train ABS YEAR AROUND NOW.

    I used to only train them while dieting -- simply because I had them built from heavy lifting...

    Well -- I had someone preach to me that abs always need attention all year for lower back support and lifting heavier.

    Also -- who doesnt want deeply etched bricks? Mine were always good when lean, but I want them great.

    -matt

    How many times a week you hit them?
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    How many times a week you hit them?
    We train calves and abs on alternating days...

    Every other day...

    Maybe I "appear' leaner than I am from more deeply developed abs...

    Who knows -- but they look nice for my off-season

    A good BB'r should NEVER be ashamed or insecure to peel off his shirt anytime of year.

    -Matt

  16. That's seems to be a smart approach abs one day and calves another.

    When should I cut out the DermaTherm pre show. A week out?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    We train calves and abs on alternating days...

    Every other day...

    Maybe I "appear' leaner than I am from more deeply developed abs...

    Who knows -- but they look nice for my off-season

    A good BB'r should NEVER be ashamed or insecure to peel off his shirt anytime of year.

    -Matt
    Appreciate it, will start implimenting this as well.

    Sixxer - I will let matt comment on the pre-contest.
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  18. Well I changed my diet a bit, hitting very low cals, but still getting a good amount of protein. The 45 min. of cardio on the stair stepper is pretty difficult. But the hardest part is keeping the heart rate manageable. I am trying to stay around 130 bpm but it keeps shooting up to 140+.

    I am sitting at 213lbs still but hopefully I will be down a bit by monday. Hitting about 2 gals of water a day.

    Yesterday, I had a great chest workout. I was very surprised with what I benched. My partner was maxing so when he started with 315 lbs I did it first and was surprised I hit it 3 times easily. Especialy with the caloric deficiency and being on pct. I was actually surprised with the whole workout. I was pretty stong and had good endurance. I felt energized which is nice.

  19. Cut out Dermatherm target -- 5 days before contest

    -Matt

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Cut out Dermatherm target -- 5 days before contest-Matt
    Good to know, I feel this question comes up often.
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  21. 213 lbs

    what is the height ?

    -Matt

  22. I am 6'2" , close to 6'3" weighing at 210 now.

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    here is a recent photo practicing posing, cant wait to dry out though. Been drinking so much water.

  24. What weight are you expecting to be at for the show?


  25. 199 lbs is what i want to weigh in at

  26. Definitely a good base going for you, looking good bro.
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  27. How many more days/weeks?

    Could tighten up more and be very competitive!!!!

    -Matt

  28. 10 days left.

    Cardio in the am , evening workout followed by cardio.

    Plan on dropping at least 3 -4 lbs before water. I hope to tighten up a bit more before dropping water. Want to be 206-207lbs before I start to drop water.

  29. Seems like you got yourself pretty in line for some impressive results. Nice work.
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  30. I hope so!

    Been practicing posing a lot, want to have it down perfect. Never actually realized the work it takes to get it perfect!
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