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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999
    Why do u keep dropping so low on your 3rd set..your banging out 185 for 8 you say....then 155 for 8..you increase 20 lbs on set 2 then decrease 20lbs on just your 3rd set...

    same with you flat presses,i dont get why you do this.especially on your 3rd set and ""why are you staing in the same rep range on the diff weight"..all sounds a bit out of wack to me.why are you dropping 50 lbs on your 3rd set when if u banged out 8 at 185 u can bang out atleast 5 or 6 at 195 and possibly 2 at 205...
    Truthfully there isn't any people around, I have done those higher weights I just worry about not getting it up with no spotter. I thought I would try a little more volume add to the pumps

    I try to make my own routines, if my chest is a little sore the next day then I am working it hard enough. Any advice is good advice.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    Truthfully there isn't any people around, I have done those higher weights I just worry about not getting it up with no spotter. I thought I would try a little more volume add to the pumps

    I try to make my own routines, if my chest is a little sore the next day then I am working it hard enough. Any advice is good advice.
    you will not make real gains by doing such a thng..u will at one point not get sore and not continue to grow nor get stronger..dude there isnt a single person u can ask to spot you? I dont like asking for spotters cause most ppl are ****ing retards. Dude,use DB's then,your not going to progress with what u are doing.Go use Dbs,more stabalizers involved,plus not u dont have to worry about a spotter as much..dont focus on bb only.I train alone and due to that i use mainly Dbs and smoth machines most.I never exclude BB though its used very oftn in my routines.

    but id change what your doing..
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  3. i actually havent used smith machine for chest in months,but will tommorow..my routine is already in my head.

    1-Smith machine 45 degree presses
    2-30 degree DB flys
    3-Flat bench press
    4-Hammer strength incline presses
    5-Cable flys


    Since Flat bench will be my 3rd exercse i will either stay light for high reps or stay heavy for 3-6 reps,since ill be fatigued from Incline presses and db flys.

    To get stringer on chest or to hit your chest harder,if you have no spotter then i advise get into pre exhaust routines.what this does is exahaust your chest so when u go to a pressing routine,your chest is fatigued and since your lats ,delts and tris asst in pressing motions they wont fatigue before your chest,which can result in you not getting as good a chest workout like you should have. I alternate between starting with presses and at times starting with flys.

    a pre exhaust routine is starting your workout for an imparticular body part with an isolation movement.It will make pressing motions more taxing on that body part after you pre exhaust them.

    im fortunate i have an amazing upper chest and i think its cause of DB flys and incline presses..i go very deep on my flys and pressses,kind of old school style. Alot of ppl dont do flys or exclude or just do them wrong.Flys are major,must have them in every chest routine.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999
    you will not make real gains by doing such a thng..u will at one point not get sore and not continue to grow nor get stronger..dude there isnt a single person u can ask to spot you? I dont like asking for spotters cause most ppl are ****ing retards. Dude,use DB's then,your not going to progress with what u are doing.Go use Dbs,more stabalizers involved,plus not u dont have to worry about a spotter as much..dont focus on bb only.I train alone and due to that i use mainly Dbs and smoth machines most.I never exclude BB though its used very oftn in my routines.

    but id change what your doing..
    I had a different routine and an occasional spotter at my old gym. I just started at golds and have yet to find my niche. I have just started with a training and hopefully I will have some good gains. I have seen some good stuff. My dumbbell curl to Arnold press I maxed out with 50's only for 2 but I do add 5 or 10 here and there. I didn't have a decline bench at my last gym but since here I have hit higher weight then my flat bench. I have hit 225 and 235 on flat once or twice both with a spotter.

    I'd like to see a couple of your routines, maybe I could pick up a thing or two.

    Thanks your continued support will be greatly appreciated

  5. Very cool
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    I had a different routine and an occasional spotter at my old gym. I just started at golds and have yet to find my niche. I have just started with a training and hopefully I will have some good gains. I have seen some good stuff. My dumbbell curl to Arnold press I maxed out with 50's only for 2 but I do add 5 or 10 here and there. I didn't have a decline bench at my last gym but since here I have hit higher weight then my flat bench. I have hit 225 and 235 on flat once or twice both with a spotter.

    I'd like to see a couple of your routines, maybe I could pick up a thing or two.

    Thanks your continued support will be greatly appreciated
    imo,as my bro always told me,if you cant do 3 on your own,drop the weight..thats what i go by.

    if you hit 1 or 2 with a spotter the technically you didnt bench 225. where are you bringing the bar to? how deep ? when i bench the bar either touches my chest,then i press smoothly ( touches my chest NOT BOUNCING) or stays 1-3 " off my chest with a smooth press up.

  7. I hit the chest no doubt. As far as a spotter had a jackass spot me first on no issue the second one the guy didn't help as I struggled then once I got it up (I wanted to stomp him) he says those are your best gains. I didn't bench for almost two weeks because my shoulder hurt so bad, pain and soreness are two different things.

    I try to incorporate smith every once in awhile, definitely heavier weight. I was gettin some weird pains when I first started only using smith, since I switched I haven't had any major issues. I get 50/60 Db pretty good haven't in a while, sometimes I think one gets stuck and forgets, without others reminding them of what they coul be doing.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    I hit the chest no doubt. As far as a spotter had a jackass spot me first on no issue the second one the guy didn't help as I struggled then once I got it up (I wanted to stomp him) he says those are your best gains. I didn't bench for almost two weeks because my shoulder hurt so bad, pain and soreness are two different things.

    I try to incorporate smith every once in awhile, definitely heavier weight. I was gettin some weird pains when I first started only using smith, since I switched I haven't had any major issues. I get 50/60 Db pretty good haven't in a while, sometimes I think one gets stuck and forgets, without others reminding them of what they coul be doing.
    dude its no shame,train hard and thats what counts...I came here and realized how much IDK about alot of suppplements and things like that. Im good in the weight dept but dont know it all and never will..you can never stop learning as long as you dont want to stop learning.

    Any questions hit me up,id mbe more than glad to give u the best advice as possible man..

    best of luck and great job on running this log..Purus is a solid company and Airborne and Aron are good dudes.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999
    dude its no shame,train hard and thats what counts...I came here and realized how much IDK about alot of suppplements and things like that. Im good in the weight dept but dont know it all and never will..you can never stop learning as long as you dont want to stop learning.

    Any questions hit me up,id mbe more than glad to give u the best advice as possible man..

    best of luck and great job on running this log..Purus is a solid company and Airborne and Aron are good dudes.
    Thanks & it's Aaron.
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  10. Thank you bro!!! We out here!!! Haha I'm tipsy
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  11. Not to be contradicting but if I hit 205x3=615lbs if I do 175x10=1750. So I guess I should go for 205x3for 3sets get the same weight and work just as hard.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Thanks & it's Aaron.
    My A jams if i dont press it hard,lol

    No sweat bro!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811
    Not to be contradicting but if I hit 205x3=615lbs if I do 175x10=1750. So I guess I should go for 205x3for 3sets get the same weight and work just as hard.
    Ok ,whatever that means..I never heard anyone rationalize weightligting like that..Its not like your a power lifter in a 3 lift total comp.

    I dont really believe u understand how to body build,but whatever works for u man.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Ok ,whatever that means..I never heard anyone rationalize weightligting like that..Its not like your a power lifter in a 3 lift total comp.

    I dont really believe u understand how to body build,but whatever works for u man.
    I was trying to be stupid funny.

  15. Stupid = yes
    Funny = no


    I get it

  16. Shorter workout gotta pick oldest up from her slumber party. Still got 45 min in.

    1.5 scoop condense, still feel it 1 hour after taking it. Good energy

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    5x195
    5x245

    Back extension
    20

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    12 min treadmill .6 miles with incline 5%

    Stretching before and after dead better help.

    Stinks I had to head out early but I should make up for it tomorrow.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Ok ,whatever that means..I never heard anyone rationalize weightligting like that..Its not like your a power lifter in a 3 lift total comp.

    I dont really believe u understand how to body build,but whatever works for u man.
    It's called tonnage/volume. Very common way people gauge performance in the gym from my understanding. @Budman, Great job keeping up on the log brother.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Randoja

    It's called tonnage/volume. Very common way people gauge performance in the gym from my understanding. @Budman, Great job keeping up on the log brother.
    Unless u have some of routine set then thats one thing..He has no routine set in place at all,while he does make sense,it doesnt make sense in his situation. He is lifting how he lifts cause he has no spotter..For him begining, looking at things like that and doing the above chest workout isnt going to get him to far, sorry.Thats a fact..He needs n focus on learning the basic type of work outs descebding and ascending routines..how to increase his weight set by set,how to make himself stronger even though he trains alone. As well as how to Start sets heavy and drop lighter through sets.All i ever do is train alone and never had problems making gains. So yeah if he was novice with expierience and has reason thats one thing,but he doesnt.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Unless u have some of routine set then thats one thing..He has no routine set in place at all,while he does make sense,it doesnt make sense in his situation. He is lifting how he lifts cause he has no spotter..For him begining, looking at things like that and doing the above chest workout isnt going to get him to far, sorry.Thats a fact..He needs n focus on learning the basic type of work outs descebding and ascending routines..how to increase his weight set by set,how to make himself stronger even though he trains alone. As well as how to Start sets heavy and drop lighter through sets.All i ever do is train alone and never had problems making gains. So yeah if he was novice with expierience and has reason thats one thing,but he doesnt.
    Really depends on his goals. While I agree that a proper routine is instrumental in success, I don't get sore after he lifts so I can't begin to assume the efficiency of his workouts. As long as he is honest with himself about whether or not he is getting the most out of his workouts he will progress. Some valuable help would be to advise him how you have been so successful without a spotter all this time like you did regarding DBs. I would go on to say that, Budman, if your'e gym has a power rack and a movable bench you can set yourself up a safety bench area with the bars in the power rack and go as heavy as you want. If you can't lift it, push the bar toward your legs, it should ride it's way onto the safety bars and you can slide out.
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  21. Thanks guys, yeah I don't know or understand the proper lifting techniques. I do push myself and try to make gains. I watch others I the gym and learn from them. I watch movement, breaks and try to see how they combine them. But who is right and who is wrong. I do list my entire routines after every workout, in the order I do them. I haven't had much critique from anyone. I totally approve of you coming inhere and questioning what and why I am doing it. I tell how I feel, what I do and when I do it.

    I need all the help I can get, I se so many people asking for help and they don't get it. I am simply doing what I do and if I like what you have to say I will give it a shot. I will admit I have been questioning what I have been doing and that's why I am discussing with a personal trainer. I am hoping that he has some solid answers and that I can learn from it.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811 View Post
    Thanks guys, yeah I don't know or understand the proper lifting techniques. I do push myself and try to make gains. I watch others I the gym and learn from them. I watch movement, breaks and try to see how they combine them. But who is right and who is wrong. I do list my entire routines after every workout, in the order I do them. I haven't had much critique from anyone. I totally approve of you coming inhere and questioning what and why I am doing it. I tell how I feel, what I do and when I do it.

    I need all the help I can get, I se so many people asking for help and they don't get it. I am simply doing what I do and if I like what you have to say I will give it a shot. I will admit I have been questioning what I have been doing and that's why I am discussing with a personal trainer. I am hoping that he has some solid answers and that I can learn from it.
    Personal trainer can't give you any info that the forum members on here won't provide for free. If you feel like your routine might be lacking, I'd recommend looking into Wendler's 5/3/1 I just finished my first mesocycle of it and it's a great routine. It's tried and true as well, I have seen so many people make solid continuous gains with it. If you are interested in 5/3/1 I have some literature on it PM me for more info.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Randoja

    Personal trainer can't give you any info that the forum members on here won't provide for free. If you feel like your routine might be lacking, I'd recommend looking into Wendler's 5/3/1 I just finished my first mesocycle of it and it's a great routine. It's tried and true as well, I have seen so many people make solid continuous gains with it. If you are interested in 5/3/1 I have some literature on it PM me for more info.
    Will do. If I was a dentist I would be good at pulling teeth.

  24. 5/3/1 is confusing after reading the article I didn't find out what the 5sets/3sets/1set of 5? At what weight pm is coming.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Budman7811
    5/3/1 is confusing after reading the article I didn't find out what the 5sets/3sets/1set of 5? At what weight pm is coming.
    Try www.blackironbeast.com helped me start to understand it better and has a workout calculator.
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