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    I think the combo will be nice.
    Considering the nightmare that PCT usually is I think youll be impressed
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney View Post
    That's warier lifting with elbow issues. I am suffering in that regard as well as wrist issues and contemplating shutting down for a week.

    Way to work it out AE !!
    thanks man. how bad are the wrist issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14
    thanks man. how bad are the wrist issues?
    Not as bad as elbow. Elbow burns when I hit heavy weight. I know. This is not good.

    For wrist, I have to be conscious to keep it stiff. I use wrist wraps and have been lucky so far not to tweak it. However, next morning, it hurts when I use that hand to support myself to get up. It's turning out to be a chronic thing. FYI - I bent it backwards when I was using into second base playing softball.

    Anyway, whining aside, I think Formeron might be a great product to finish off my cut and get rid of excess water while hardening up the muscle. I lost 20+ lbs so far in 31 days and I am seeing faint signs of abs showing through. I have 8 more weeks of cut to go. I am very interested in how you do.

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    I have had one wrist operation already, and have always needed heavy wraps. I just got a new pair that I think you might like....they are far and away better than any APT wrap I have ever used. I got the 24" anaconda by Rhino Power Gear. Absolutely awesome...highly recommended

    Got in my fasted am cardio 45 minutes at 12% incline 4mph

    If I have time later today, might actually do a little more
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14
    I have had one wrist operation already, and have always needed heavy wraps. I just got a new pair that I think you might like....they are far and away better than any APT wrap I have ever used. I got the 24" anaconda by Rhino Power Gear. Absolutely awesome...highly recommended

    Got in my fasted am cardio 45 minutes at 12% incline 4mph

    If I have time later today, might actually do a little more
    Thank you for the tip !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I have had one wrist operation already, and have always needed heavy wraps. I just got a new pair that I think you might like....they are far and away better than any APT wrap I have ever used. I got the 24" anaconda by Rhino Power Gear. Absolutely awesome...highly recommended

    Got in my fasted am cardio 45 minutes at 12% incline 4mph

    If I have time later today, might actually do a little more
    gotta love that fasted cardio, lol.
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    Got in my second cardio of the day. 35 minutes same incline and speed.

    Sweating like crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14
    Got in my second cardio of the day. 35 minutes same incline and speed.

    Sweating like crazy
    Gotta love the drive to get into the gym for multiple cardio sessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Gotta love the drive to get into the gym for multiple cardio sessions.
    Thanks man. Trying to make best use of the supps and push a little harder
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Thanks man. Trying to make best use of the supps and push a little harder
    hell yeah....i always get extra aggression/motivation on formestane!!!!!
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    morning fasted cardio and ab work in.

    One thing I can note is that my elbows were definitely creakier this morning. Not overly painful....just stiff and cracky

    back and bi's today
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    Day 6

    Back
    Good mornings (6 sets)
    135lbs 2 sets 8 reps per
    185lbs 2 sets 7 reps per
    205lbs 2 sets 7 reps per

    Meadow Rows (5 sets)
    2 25's 2 sets 10 reps per
    2 25's 2 10's 3 sets 8 reps per

    TBar Rows (4 sets)
    3 35's 3 sets 10 reps
    3 35's 1 25 1 set 8 reps

    Wide grip chins (4 sets)
    Bodyweight 4 sets of 10
    Bis
    Hammer Curls (5 sets)
    50lbs 5 sets of 8-10 reps per

    1arm preacher curls (4 sets)

    45lbs 4 sets of 8 reps per

    Thoughts:
    Definitely feeling the elbow creakiness, and felt it quite a bit on chins and preacher curls. Strength was good as was my endurance...however it is funny to note that my body definitely tells me when the workout is over. I legitimately hit the wall at the end of the workout. I was contemplating throwing in some bb curls, but the pump in my arms was severe and the exhaustion hit hard.
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    Hopefully your test levels will get higher and estro will go up a bit.
    The good news is if estro is crashed LH is pumping out so your balls are making test which of course is the whole point of PCT.
    Lower estro, elevate test.
    I figure if you can maintain size and strength its a pretty amazing PCT since most people deflate and lose strength.
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    Morning cardio completed. Hitting legs/calves later this afternoon.

    Feel good today. Creakiness is there in the elbows, but again nothing major.
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    Day 7

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    A2G squats 6 sets
    135 2 sets 10 reps per
    225 3 sets 10 reps per
    275 3 sets 8 reps per

    Box Squats 8 sets
    225lbs 3 sets 5 reps per
    275lbs 2 sets 3 reps per
    315lbs 3 sets 2 reps per

    Standing Calf Raises (8 sets)
    225lbs 8 sets 10 reps per
    Thoughts:
    Overall, solid workout. Pump was great, and there is a lot of calf vascularity. I am expecting to have some difficulty getting up and down the stairs as a result of this one

    One thing I am noticing is that I am getting very sore, more so with Formeron than I seemed to without it. That is a good thing, as it shows I am really working the muscle
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    I really get good vascularity from it.
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    Morning cardio is complete. A couple of notes: continuing to lean out but yet weight is 217...this is a huge + for me. Thrilled!!!!

    Additionally, today is chest/tris. I am curious to see if there has been any strength increase at this point.
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    Incline BP 10 sets
    135lbs 3 sets 10 reps per
    225lbs 3 sets 5-7 reps per
    275lbs 2 sets 5 reps per
    295lbs 1 set 3 reps
    305lbs 1 set 1 rep

    Flat BP 8 Sets
    135lbs 2 sets 8 reps per
    225lbs 2 sets 8 reps per
    275lbs 2 sets 5 reps per
    295lbs 1 set 3 reps
    315lbs 1 set 2 reps

    Triceps
    Close Grip BP 7 sets
    135lbs 1 set 8 reps
    225lbs 3 sets 6-8 reps
    255lbs 1 set 5 reps
    275lbs 1 set 3 reps
    300lbs 1 set 1 rep
    JM Press 4 sets
    185lbs 4 sets 8-10 reps

    Thoughts:
    A couple of things of note, diuretic aspect is in full effect today. Was feeling a bit dehydrated as a result and have been drinking water like crazy. The dehydration feeling seems to have upset my stomach a bit....but nothing too bad.
    Workout was pretty good. Its funny, I have tremendous energy and aggression heading into the workout, but I push so hard that I legitimately hit the wall and hit it hard. By the end of the workout I am totally exhausted.
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    formestane kicksass!!!
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    Stay hydrated brother.
    I dont know about where you live but its triple digits here and I live by the beach.
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    Its very humid here. Reaching 90's with major humidity. Keeps me stuck in the house a lot.

    On the psitive side, morning cardio of 45 minutes is in

    Back later today with Shoulders/Traps
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Its very humid here. Reaching 90's with major humidity. Keeps me stuck in the house a lot.

    On the psitive side, morning cardio of 45 minutes is in

    Back later today with Shoulders/Traps
    Yah its about 100 in my room right now. Thankfully I have AC at the lab....
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    Shoulders
    Seated BB Press (8 sets)
    135lbs 2 sets 8 reps per
    185lbs 2 sets 5 reps per
    205lbs 2 sets 2-3 reps
    155lbs 2 sets 7-9 reps

    DB Side laterals (5 sets)
    30lbs 2 sets 10 reps
    35lbs 3 sets 9-10 reps

    DB Rear Laterals (4 sets)
    35lbs 4 sets 10 reps per

    BB Shrugs (8 sets)
    225lbs 3 sets 10 reps
    315lbs 3 sets 8 reps
    405lbs 2 sets 6 reps

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    Still having a little stomach issue, but I do believe that it is unrelated to the Formeron and secret sauce. Vascularity is still quite noticeable and strength was good overall. Tomorrow is legs and back (deads) and I will also be doing a weigh in first thing as well.
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    Morning cardio is in and complete. I do believe i figured out the stomach issue....a new brita filter. Feel like a new man
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    Had a solid workout for back and legs. Started with 20 minutes on the treadmill to get warmed up

    Back Squats (5 sets)

    135lbs 5 sets 10 reps per

    Box Squats (5 sets)
    135 5 sets 8 reps per

    Legs were definitely warmed up at this point

    Deads (10 sets)
    225lbs 2 sets 4,4
    315lbs 2 sets 4,4
    405lbs 2 sets 2,2
    455lbs 1 set 2
    495lbs 1 set 1
    525lbs missed (figured it didnt hurt to take a shot)
    475lbs 1 set 1

    BB Rows (4 sets)
    135lbs 1 set 8 reps
    185lbs 2 sets 8 reps
    225lbs 1 set 6 reps

    Wide grip chin (4 sets)
    BW sets of 8-10

    Overall solid workout. I did take a shot at 525lbs even though I have never tried it before. Didnt have an opportuntity to weigh in today, so will do so first thing tomorrow morning
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    Sometimes the Formeron will drain alot of water.
    I lose 10lbs as soon as I start it but I LOOK bigger because IM so dry.
    Looks like things are going well for a PCT
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    Morning cardio is complete at 45 minutes

    Weighed in at 216, which is quite consistent

    Heavy chest and tris later today
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    Excellent workout today, that was really sparked with a lot of endurance.

    30 minutes on treadmill as a warmup

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    Flat BP (9 sets)
    135lbs 2 sets 8,8
    225lbs 2 sets 5,5
    275lbs 1 set 5
    295lbs 1 set 3
    315lbs 1 set 1
    335lbs 1 set 1
    315lbs 1 set 3

    Incline DB Press (4 sets)
    75lbs 12,12,12,12

    Incline DB Flys (4 sets)
    75lbs 8,8,8,8

    Tris
    JM Press (6 sets)
    135lbs 1 set 8
    185lbs 2 sets 5,5
    205lbs 1 set 5
    225lbs 2 sets 5,5

    CG BP (5 sets)
    225lbs 3 sets 5,5,5
    245lbs 2 sets 5,5

    Overall....quite pleased. Strength and endurance were great. Sweating like a freak, which is always a positive. Definitely leaner, which is more noticeable in clothes, specifically shorts/pants. As my wife likes to say, I have no real a$$, and it seems to be flattening more

    Tomorrow is an off day for lifting but will be hitting some cardio
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    Looking good.
    not sure where you are but its 105 here and I live on the beach in Cali.....better stay hydrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel
    Looking good.
    not sure where you are but its 105 here and I live on the beach in Cali.....better stay hydrated.
    I am in southeastern pa, near NJ. Today was the first none 90+ day. Crazy hot.
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    morning cardio and ab work in. Feel good, joint stiffness has subsided almost completely. kind of wish today was a lifting day, but I do need to give my body one nonlifting day

    Might actually hit more cardio later today if time allows.

    Tomorrow a little back and bi's
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    Yah gotta get rest in. I train 1 on 1 off. with a 3 day split. DC training.
    If I dont take the days off I start feeling sick.
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    I concur...its just funny as my schedule is always flexible over the summer (work as a School admin), so I try to take advantage of the time
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    I concur...its just funny as my schedule is always flexible over the summer (work as a School admin), so I try to take advantage of the time
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    Good back and bi day

    Back:
    Wide grip chins 5 sets bw sets of 10
    TBar rows 5 sets 4 35's 2 25's sets of 8 (awesome pump)
    DB Rows (5 sets) 75 lbs sets of 10
    Good mornings 5 sets 135, 185,185,225,225 sets of 8-10

    Bi's:
    BB Curls (5 sets) 95-135 sets of 6-10
    Hammer curls (5 sets)50lbs sets of 10

    Vascularity and pump were awesome. Strength is good, not necessarily increasingly anything crazy, but for 2 weeks into pct, I am feeling great.
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    morning fasted cardio is in with some ab work. Back today with a hopefully strong leg day
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    ad a solid leg/calves day, really focused on box squats today

    Box Squats (12 sets)
    135lbs 2 sets 8,8
    225lbs 4 sets 8,8,8,8
    275lbs 4 sets 5,5,5,5
    315lbs 2 sets 2,2

    Standing calf raises (8 sets)
    225lbs 8 sets sets of 12-15


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    Strength was solid, and I am pleased to report that vascularity in my calves was quite pronounced.
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    Looks solid brother. Keep up the good work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel
    Looks solid brother. Keep up the good work.
    Thanks man....much appreciated
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    Morning cardio is done and chest/tris awaits this afternoon.

    As an aside, for the first time on his, I am truly sore. Legs are stiff (painful, but a good thing)
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