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    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Apply to forearms and rub together so you lose nothing. I never put formestane on my hands, you lose a lot that way. Trust me, this is the best way to dose and the skin is thin on your forearms. I did this with another product prior to FormaSurge, it works like a charm.
    Hm...works with Clenviscerate too?...Sounds like a solid good trick ! I wanna try the combo of Dermacrine and Formasurge though get them on the planet already!
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Hm...works with Clenviscerate too?...Sounds like a solid good trick ! I wanna try the combo of Dermacrine and Formasurge though get them on the planet already!
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Hm...works with Clenviscerate too?...Sounds like a solid good trick ! I wanna try the combo of Dermacrine and Formasurge though get them on the planet already!
    Those have to be applied to different areas. You are talking two different carriers and DHEA has to make conversions so it needs to go on shoulders and upper back. Formasurge I would do on the forearms, you will need it dermacrine will bloat you, DHEA has a nasty habit of converting to estrogen at an alarming rate.
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    Boom.....
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    Applied some Formasurge to the forearms and rubbed it on the bod. Then I was like fuk it, and applied 2 more pumps. Kicking it up to 8 pumps a day 4/4

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    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Those have to be applied to different areas. You are talking two different carriers and DHEA has to make conversions so it needs to go on shoulders and upper back. Formasurge I would do on the forearms, you will need it dermacrine will bloat you, DHEA has a nasty habit of converting to estrogen at an alarming rate.
    Nice info, thanks . I never knew you had to apply dermacrine at a certain spot!
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    Originally Posted by Celorza

    Nice info, thanks . I never knew you had to apply dermacrine at a certain spot!
    This Guy's full of good info
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Nice info, thanks . I never knew you had to apply dermacrine at a certain spot!
    Those areas of the body have the highest concentrations for converting the product.
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    Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF

    Those areas of the body have the highest concentrations for converting the product.
    Does it have to do with the layer of fat under the skin. The forearms have little to no fat.
    I think I read some where that body fat takes a big part in conversion to estrogen.

    So would an AI work best on a fatty part if it has a higher estrogen level. Or less fatty so it enters ur system easier?
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    That was in reference to the Dermacrine. The Reps will need to chime in on the science behind your question.
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    Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Does it have to do with the layer of fat under the skin. The forearms have little to no fat.
    I think I read some where that body fat takes a big part in conversion to estrogen.

    So would an AI work best on a fatty part if it has a higher estrogen level. Or less fatty so it enters ur system easier?
    Speaking anecdotally, I've have much better success with AIs by applying them to thin-skinned areas. I've applied to fattier areas, but it seems to require a higher dose to get the same effect.
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    Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Does it have to do with the layer of fat under the skin. The forearms have little to no fat.
    I think I read some where that body fat takes a big part in conversion to estrogen.

    So would an AI work best on a fatty part if it has a higher estrogen level. Or less fatty so it enters ur system easier?
    I would do forearms or put some on the back of your hand or forearm and apply to abdomen. It will help to an extent with spot reduction, I know Kleen has had success putting it under the pecs to get rid of stubborn fat and shrink its appearance.
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    Originally Posted by oufinny

    I would do forearms or put some on the back of your hand or forearm and apply to abdomen. It will help to an extent with spot reduction, I know Kleen has had success putting it under the pecs to get rid of stubborn fat and shrink its appearance.
    I like that.
    Also going to take the advice u gave the other Guy and not go OD with the daily amount. Will keep it at 4 pumps a day.
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    @ 5pm, came home, picked up the wife and fam. Went for a quick tan. the miss got her arms waxed. the boys played at the park

    @ 7pm, jumped out the shower, took my two pumps and calling it a day.

    Day off of the gym and hopefully catch up with some rest and sleep. Tomorrow is back, and I'm so Fukin ready to destroy that sh-t! Cant remember at time when i have be so AMPED to throw the Iron around!
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    Heres some Formastane info i came across:


    "Formestane increases IGF-1 secretion and activity. 26%
    Formestane decreases the number of progesterone receptors (inhibits the trenbolone and "deca-dick" type side effects and increases fat loss)
    Formestane inhibits 91.9% of aromatase enzyme production
    Formestane increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid together
    Formestane is anabolic and androgenic (At 500mg weekly the product is similar in effects to 250mg of Primobolan Enanthate) <--really???
    Formestane is a "suicide inhibitor" of aromatase. Specifically this means that it will irreversibly bind to the aromatase enzyme and permanently deactivate it
    Formestane (The sterile injectable form) possesses a 4-day half-life
    Formestane decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity.
    Formestane inhibits DHT (dehydrotestosterone) formation and activity.
    Formestane possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors
    Formestane has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such as BPH.
    Formestane has been shown to continue to increase HPTA function above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous administration."


    from: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...inhibitors.htm


    I came across an article stating the oral half life of Formastane is 3-5hrs, and 12hrs trans dermal is this correct??

    how valid are the above statments?
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    Originally Posted by Celorza View Post
    Hm...works with Clenviscerate too?...Sounds like a solid good trick ! I wanna try the combo of Dermacrine and Formasurge though get them on the planet already!
    maybe derma in the morning, and forma at night, but still, might risk over saturating the skin. absorbtion is limited in the skin.

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    Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    Heres some Formastane info i came across:


    "Formestane increases IGF-1 secretion and activity. 26%
    Formestane decreases the number of progesterone receptors (inhibits the trenbolone and "deca-dick" type side effects and increases fat loss)
    Formestane inhibits 91.9% of aromatase enzyme production
    Formestane increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid together
    Formestane is anabolic and androgenic (At 500mg weekly the product is similar in effects to 250mg of Primobolan Enanthate) <--really???
    Formestane is a "suicide inhibitor" of aromatase. Specifically this means that it will irreversibly bind to the aromatase enzyme and permanently deactivate it
    Formestane (The sterile injectable form) possesses a 4-day half-life
    Formestane decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity.
    Formestane inhibits DHT (dehydrotestosterone) formation and activity.
    Formestane possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors
    Formestane has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such as BPH.
    Formestane has been shown to continue to increase HPTA function above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous administration."


    from: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...inhibitors.htm


    I came across an article stating the oral half life of Formastane is 3-5hrs, and 12hrs trans dermal is this correct??

    how valid are the above statments?
    I'm not sure how formestane would increase ifg-1 secretion without increasing hgh production first, and dont know how it's going to do that, so I doubt it.

    formestane doesn't decrease progestin receptors, it prob can bind to the progestin receptor (well, 4-hydroxy-test) but I doubt there is any data showing binding affinity and interaction.

    formestane doesn't do anything for aromatase enzyme production. it will bind to the enzyme, preventing test from binding with it.

    formestane can increase test via negative feedback loop, and also indirectly by blocking test from aromatizing into estrogen.

    the hormone 4-hydroxy-testosterone, what formestane can convert to, is an androgen. if you want to use formestane as a ph, get it in capsule form, not t/d.

    it is a suicide inhibitor i believe.

    I doubt the injectable form posses a 4-day half life without having some ester or additional methylation to increase half life.

    androgens will bind to sex hormone binding globulin, freeing up test, so will long jack.

    formestane is not a 5ar inhibitor, it's an aromatase inhibitor. whether 4-hydroxy-test can 5a reduce, I dont know.

    all androgens bind with the androgen receptor, there is no dht receptor. what affinity formestane will bind with the ar, who knows.

    I doubt it helps with prostate issues (at least, androgen related issues, as it's an androgen)

    Dont use formestane, topically, orally, or via injection for 22 weeks without a proper pct set up, and pre, intra, post blood work. you're gonna fck everything up inside you hormonal axis.

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    Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    I'm not sure how formestane would increase ifg-1 secretion without increasing hgh production first, and dont know how it's going to do that, so I doubt it.

    formestane doesn't decrease progestin receptors, it prob can bind to the progestin receptor (well, 4-hydroxy-test) but I doubt there is any data showing binding affinity and interaction.

    formestane doesn't do anything for aromatase enzyme production. it will bind to the enzyme, preventing test from binding with it.

    formestane can increase test via negative feedback loop, and also indirectly by blocking test from aromatizing into estrogen.

    the hormone 4-hydroxy-testosterone, what formestane can convert to, is an androgen. if you want to use formestane as a ph, get it in capsule form, not t/d.

    it is a suicide inhibitor i believe.

    I doubt the injectable form posses a 4-day half life without having some ester or additional methylation to increase half life.

    androgens will bind to sex hormone binding globulin, freeing up test, so will long jack.

    formestane is not a 5ar inhibitor, it's an aromatase inhibitor. whether 4-hydroxy-test can 5a reduce, I dont know.

    all androgens bind with the androgen receptor, there is no dht receptor. what affinity formestane will bind with the ar, who knows.

    I doubt it helps with prostate issues (at least, androgen related issues, as it's an androgen)

    Dont use formestane, topically, orally, or via injection for 22 weeks without a proper pct set up, and pre, intra, post blood work. you're gonna fck everything up inside you hormonal axis.
    Bro. Thanks for going over each statement.!
    That page made form sound like a wonder drug
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    2 pumps in the am, going for 2 more @6pm pwo.

    It might be mental but I seem to be getting a slight pump from this. I use my forearm to spread it
    And notice alittle pump at forearm and wrists
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    Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    2 pumps in the am, going for 2 more @6pm pwo.

    It might be mental but I seem to be getting a slight pump from this. I use my forearm to spread it
    And notice alittle pump at forearm and wrists
    pwo as in pre? or post? pre workout dosing and experiencing a pump occurred for me as well with other formestane products.
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