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    This should be EPIC... FRL sponsored.


    Thanks go to Royd the Noyd for the opportunity to log EPIC! I will begin tomorrow (thursday).

    Dosing: 4 x 12.5mg per day

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    Height: 6'0
    Weight: ??? I avoid scales but around 195ish
    Goal: Currently recomping to shrink the love handles

    I will take Myotape measurements thursday and then again at the end. Measurements will taken first thing AM/cold. I will also take pics before after but I dont know if I will post those but it will help determine physical changes.

    Waist at BB: <?>
    Chest just above Nips: <?>
    Neck: <?>
    Bicep: <?>
    Thigh: <?>
    Calf: <?>

    Training:
    Shoulders/Legs
    Chest/Tri's
    Back/Bi's
    Core 3x a week
    Cardio 3x a week minimum - weight days 20 minutes after, off days 30-45 minutes

    Not on specific days, I train in rotation, if the next day I am particularly sore I take the day off and only do cardio. No more than 2 cardio only days a week.

    Diet:
    Not the best, but I am pretty strict. I dont conform to the popular formula's for maintenance/bulk/cut. If I eat more than 2000K/cals a day I gain fat so I have a slow azz metabolism.

    Right now I am taking in about 1700K/cals a day and SLOWLY leaning out... less than 1lb a week loss.

    Alright... tomorrow... lets....get...EPIC.
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    Awesome...get it rollin.
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    alright alright... so i forgot to measure this morning like I wanted to. I need to take the myotape outta the drawer and put it somewhere I wont miss it in the morning.

    Nothing to report yet... I had a great chest workout today. I just started a new routine called Power, Muscle, Burn. (google it). And I must say it's a nice change. My previous routine was getting stale, I think I was on it too long.

    Epic doesnt taste so bad so it's a manageable hold under the tongue for a while, swish it and swallow.

    today's routine:

    Flat BB Bench - Power
    Incline BB Bench - Muscle
    Decline DB Bench - Muscle
    Db Fly - Burn
    Close Grip Bench - Power
    Tricep Kickbacks - Muscle
    SkullCrushers - Burn

    Looking forward to Progress.

    Oh other stuff I am taking:
    Orange Triad - Multi
    Orange Omega fish oil
    DCP
    Garlic supp
    Creatine
    LCLT
    and I take HGHPro before bed
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    It would seem there is some seperation in my Epic.. looks like little pills formed in the bottle!!! Shaking the hell outta it and they are shrinking... just an observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger View Post
    It would seem there is some seperation in my Epic.. looks like little pills formed in the bottle!!! Shaking the hell outta it and they are shrinking... just an observation.
    Heat seems to be an issue with these in shipping. We are definitely going with tabs like the AMS RDe's if we launch this officially.
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    Alright sorry for the lack of update. This weekend didnt leave me a minute to do anything. Good weekend but bad for training as I didnt hit the gym once! ARGH!!

    I will be back in the gym today for a back/bi session and will probably go full gorilla since I had a 3 day rest.

    Still dosing 12.5 (1/2 ml) 4x a day.
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    No worries. I gained four lbs this weekend lol oops
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    alright.... so for those that know me on here... you know this. I am a pessimist. I think most supps are bs. I dont nut-hugg any company and I dont sugar coat a damn thing. With that being said.

    Today's workout was EPIC.

    Deadlift
    BB Row
    DB Row
    Horizontal Pullups
    BB Curls
    Wrist curls/extensions
    DB Hammer Curls

    Ok, so my deadlift is usually 5, 3, 1 and today it was 5, 5, 5, 5

    yeah... what I normally pull once... I pulled 5 times today. now with that said, the 1 rep I normally pull is not my 1 rm... but Ive never pulled it 5 times. i could have gone 1 or 2 more I just didnt want to break down form and injure myself.

    Endurance was awesome... I did more sets, more reps across the board.

    Now i need some input/help. I *think* I had back pumps today. Is that possible? Ive never had back pumps on a ph cycle but Ive only done mild stuff. In my deadlift my lower back got really tight and even after I was done stayed tight for a while.

    then during my bb curls, my biceps got so tight I thought they were going to tear... it hurt a little and was really annoying. It seemed like whatever I was working got REALLY tight... I've had regular pumps before but NOTHING like this... I pushed through it but was just wondering if this was the famous back pumps?

    I have taurine but no way to measure it out.. I was thinking it seems the same weight as DAA so I could use my DAA scooper?

    I dosed .5ml 4x a day with .5 60 minutes pre and .5 30 minutes pre workout.


    Also... After my 60 minute pre and 30 minute pre doses, I had a calm type of energy.. I kept looking at my preworkout and debating whether to take it. I drank half of it and decided not to drink the rest and still had plenty of energy to power through my workout. It would be awesome to drop my prew/o.

    on a side note, I work out in my garage in south florida.. temp is 90+ degrees... rocky balboa style gym!

    FRL - I think you are onto something here and I am looking forward to what's next!
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    It is definitely bringing the bacon for me as well. I feel like an animal when I workout. Still very early in the run too!!
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    Good workout today... chest/tri's.

    F BB Bench
    I BB Bench
    D DB Bench
    DB Fly
    Close Grip Bench
    Skull Crushers

    I did not expect the energy boost this compound is providing after dosing. Really helps to power through the workout.

    I did chug my pre today (assault 1/2 scoop). But I am thinking I might start skipping that with the energy epic is bringing. I dont drink coffee or any other source of stims...


    I feel like I can just keep going on this, so its def helping to keep me going through my whole workout.

    No appetite or libido changes.
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    Rest day.... just some cardio which had a lot of my muscles pumped and a little uncomfortable.... if nothing else Epic gives great muscle pumps!

    Tomorrow is Legs and Shoulders and am looking forward to hittin it hard.
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    Great back workout today!

    Deads
    DB Row
    BB Row
    H pullups
    BB curls
    DB Hammer

    Getting more reps in than usual.... gotta be the epic. Deadlifts are normally 10(warmups) 5/3/1 today was 5/5/5 - felt GOOD
    My horizontal pullups (not sure what they are called, lying down heels on a bench, keep body stiff as board). I do those at the end and last week was 8/7/6/4 today was 10/9/8/7

    pretty happy with the progress I am seeing. the pump is insane on Epic... its gotta be the epic as thats the only change. And vascularity is gettin crazy especially in the front of my shoulders.
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    PR Broken today!

    Killed the chesticles....

    Flat Bench - PR!!!!!! (+10lbs)
    Incline Bench
    Decline DB Bench
    DB Fly
    Close Grip Bench
    Tricep Kickbacks

    Strength is up, veins are poppin and no side effects to speak of. Very happy so far. Looking a little leaner and it's still early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger View Post


    PR Broken today!

    Killed the chesticles....

    Flat Bench - PR!!!!!! (+10lbs)
    Incline Bench
    Decline DB Bench
    DB Fly
    Close Grip Bench
    Tricep Kickbacks

    Strength is up, veins are poppin and no side effects to speak of. Very happy so far. Looking a little leaner and it's still early.
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    tuesday was an off day...

    yesterday was BACK/BI

    Deadlift 5x225 5x295 5x345 5x375 (have never done 5x375 before!) (my 1rm is 405)
    One arm DB Row
    BB Row
    reverse Fly
    H pullups 12 10 8 8
    BB Curl
    DB Hammer Curl

    What is there to say other than Im lovin the Epic right now. Progress is fantastic, DOMS are pretty much gone. Noticed a little bit shorter temper but ehhh.. whatever.
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    yesterday was legs/shoulders and it SUCKED

    What a crappy workout! I had no strength to speak of, was failing on 2nd and or 3rd sets of things... UGH!!!

    I hate days like that... must have slacked on my diet or something.

    Anyway... not discouraged as it's happened before and I always bounce right back!

    Today is cardio only so tomorrow will be another EPIC workout!
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    Same thing happened with me yesterday w/ chest!! I took today off to let my body rest. Back at it tomorrow!
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    yesterday was chest!

    Strong day back on track.

    F Bench
    I Bench
    D Bench
    Flys
    Close Grip Bench
    Tricep Kickbacks

    weights are up so feeling good... no sides to speak of. Nice mild compound that I can def appreciate. I am DEFINITLY leaning out some. Vascularity is up... wife said something and so did a buddy of mine (non trainer, he just commented while playing poker one night that my forearms looked sick) so it's not in my head.

    Today was back day

    Deadlift 10x225 8x295 5x345 3x375
    One arm DB Row
    BB Row
    Reverse Flys
    BB curl
    Hammer curls

    epicepicepicepicepicepicepicep icepicepicepicepicepic
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    Nice Deads bubba! This stuff is definite legit.
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    hellz ya. thanks!

    Sorry, I slacked a little.

    SOOOOO...

    yesterday was off day, day before was LEGS/SHOULDERS

    Squats 15x135 10x225 5x275 5x275 1x300
    SLDL 10x135 10x145 10x155
    Overhead Press (low numbers I suck at this)
    Lateral shoulder raises
    Front shoulder raises
    BB shrugs 10x225 10x275 10x275 10x275

    Good day, knee was sore as hell but its my bad knee (motorcycle accident when I was 21) but I pushed through it... it hurt like hell after the workout but somehow the next day it felt fine... go figure!
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    today was Chest!

    Ok, so I know Im a weakling compared to yall but Ive only been training for just over a year so blah! When the Epic runs out I will post my log from day one next to my log from the last day (well 3 days - 1 each of legs/shoulder - chest/tri - back/bi) and I can already see great progress, moving faster than without the epic!

    F Bench 15x135 5x185 5x185 5x185 5x185
    I Bench 10x135 10x135 10x135 8x135
    D DB Bench 12x52.5 12x52.5 9x52.5 8x52.5
    Close Grip Bench
    DB Fly's


    I am going to hit the gym later today with the wife and pound out some tricep isolation exercises.


    still doing 2ml a day spit into 4 doses. I really prefer the .5 ml dose over the 1ml dose - just easier to hold. pre workout I do .5 1 hour ahead and .5 30 min ahead...

    Eating at maint or just below. Definitely getting leaner/harder. I can really see it in my forearms - the definition is getting sick! Like I mentioned earlier, a buddy at poker was like wtf with my forearms!


    very happy... bottle is runnin low...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger View Post
    today was Chest!

    Ok, so I know Im a weakling compared to yall but Ive only been training for just over a year so blah! When the Epic runs out I will post my log from day one next to my log from the last day (well 3 days - 1 each of legs/shoulder - chest/tri - back/bi) and I can already see great progress, moving faster than without the epic!

    F Bench 15x135 5x185 5x185 5x185 5x185
    I Bench 10x135 10x135 10x135 8x135
    D DB Bench 12x52.5 12x52.5 9x52.5 8x52.5
    Close Grip Bench
    DB Fly's


    I am going to hit the gym later today with the wife and pound out some tricep isolation exercises.


    still doing 2ml a day spit into 4 doses. I really prefer the .5 ml dose over the 1ml dose - just easier to hold. pre workout I do .5 1 hour ahead and .5 30 min ahead...

    Eating at maint or just below. Definitely getting leaner/harder. I can really see it in my forearms - the definition is getting sick! Like I mentioned earlier, a buddy at poker was like wtf with my forearms!


    very happy... bottle is runnin low...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF

    It's not about where you start, it's all about where you finish!! Keep grinding champ.
    Exactly!! Who gives a f what the other guy can lift!!?? I sure don't. As long as your progressing both physically and visually, then you're kickin a$$!!
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    Well the wife decided to goto Friendlys for ice cream instead of the gym (she's 7 months prego so....) but I still went back and kicked out some skullcrushers, tricep kickbacks, and overhead pullovers. ( I work out at home so I didnt have far to go.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger
    yesterday was chest!

    Strong day back on track.

    F Bench
    I Bench
    D Bench
    Flys
    Close Grip Bench
    Tricep Kickbacks

    weights are up so feeling good... no sides to speak of. Nice mild compound that I can def appreciate. I am DEFINITLY leaning out some. Vascularity is up... wife said something and so did a buddy of mine (non trainer, he just commented while playing poker one night that my forearms looked sick) so it's not in my head.

    Today was back day

    Deadlift 10x225 8x295 5x345 3x375
    One arm DB Row
    BB Row
    Reverse Flys
    BB curl
    Hammer curls

    epicepicepicepicepicepicepicep icepicepicepicepicepic
    Nice deads!
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    thanks.... Deads are my best lift.... Squats next then bench... Im all lower body I guess, trying to get the upper to catch up!
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    Off days so nothing to report... recovering from that 2 a day the other day - man my triceps are on fire.

    Today I am going to go all out on Legs... tomorrow I am on VACATION!!!! The Waldorf Astoria better have a fitness center so I can at least do SOMETHING!
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    Legs/Shoulders today

    Squats 20xbar 15x135 (warmup) 10x225 5x275 2x315 (PR!)
    Overhead Press
    Upright Row
    Lateral Raises
    Wrist curls

    Hit a pr on Squats today... all squats were below parallel (ATG) except the 2nd 315 rep which I only went parallel.

    Coming along nicely.... sad to see the bottle almost empty.

    Vacation tomorrow so I hope the Waldorf has a good fitness center. We shall see!
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    Nice lift man!
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    seems only right if I sub
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    ok no free weights other than DB's and only up to 50... so machines it is... i hate machines...

    all out of EPIC... BOOO BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

    I will post my final review Monday when I get back from Vaca.

    The short and the sweet is I will run this again if they release it. I really enjoyed it.
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    FINAL REVIEW

    Overall I really enjoyed this run of FRL EPIC. Very mild, no bloods but I dont think there is much if any suppresion. No loss of libido, no lethargy, nothing.

    Post dosing I got a nice little energy boost. Not a 'stim' type of energy but an alert focus. It was a nice kick preworkout. I dosed 4x a day at .5ml. 1 in the morning, 1 right before lunch and then 1 sixty minutes pre workout and 1 thirty minutes preworkout. I did play around with dosing and found this the most effective method.

    I dont have a scale (on purpose). I ate at or a little below maintenance trying to recomp. I gained strength and leaned out some. Nothing major but more than without Epic so it was definitly working. I keep a training journal and below are my working set #'s for the major lifts. I do my own program that I based off of 5x5 and Layne Norton's PHAT routine so these #'s are from my "power" days. I know my bench is weak but I've been making great progress despite having blown out both my elbows before (not lifting).

    Working SET #'s (not max's but the weight I do my last 3 sets with (of 5))

    So BEFORE EPIC AFTER EPIC

    Bench 165 185

    Squat 265 295

    Dead 345 375

    Soooooo yeah. Epic is Epic for such a mild compound and 4 weeks. Looking forward to it's release. Very interested in stacking options although solo is GOOOOOOOD STUFF!
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    Great job and review banger. We appreciate the feedback and we have taken a lot of what you guys have said into account for the finished version of the product.
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    Any thoughts on when this jewel will be available?
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    Any thoughts on when this jewel will be available?
    4 weeks or less.
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    Wow, that is some quick production right there! This will be finding a home in my stash for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Wow, that is some quick production right there! This will be finding a home in my stash for sure.
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