Review/Update OstaRx/5aOHP/AndroHard LV stack

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  1. Awesome strength increases this week so far. Destroying the weights with confidence. Recovery is crazy. I had a pulled a muscle or something in my back. I had pain on the right side of my back after my workout on Tuesday. The very next day it was completely healed. Things are looking up for this stack. The real test is going to be Friday and Saturday because those are the days that I start to get tired during my workouts. I'm usually still going on the carbs I loaded up from mon-tues on Tuesday(of course) and Wednesday. Thursday is an off day and then Friday and Saturday is when things start to get a little slow. So we will see but so far this week I've turned a corner and it is like someone flipped a switch.


  2. Finished my first 5aOHP bottle on Saturday 5/12/12. The new bottle has a different taste to it. It has a more chemical taste and there are no chunks in it. Libido was up for a bit last week. Now it seems to have dropped again. With the drop in libido came an increase in strength. I'm happy to make that trade though.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Awesome strength increases this week so far. Destroying the weights with confidence. Recovery is crazy. I had a pulled a muscle or something in my back. I had pain on the right side of my back after my workout on Tuesday. The very next day it was completely healed. Things are looking up for this stack. The real test is going to be Friday and Saturday because those are the days that I start to get tired during my workouts. I'm usually still going on the carbs I loaded up from mon-tues on Tuesday(of course) and Wednesday. Thursday is an off day and then Friday and Saturday is when things start to get a little slow. So we will see but so far this week I've turned a corner and it is like someone flipped a switch.
    That's great news! Yeah the recovery on the 5aOHP is nice. I'm (well up until today's doctor visit) running 8ml a day of the P-bold and the recovery is freakish! No sooner do I get done with a heavy set then my muscles are ready for more. Almost as though I can't push them hard enough!

    Glad to see things are going so well for you. Not sure what to tell you about the taste of the new bottle other than it must be from a different batch?
    "Aren't two sparrows sold for a small coin? But not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father knowing about it already. Even the hairs of your head are all counted. Don't be afraid. You are worth more than many sparrows."
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    That's great news! Yeah the recovery on the 5aOHP is nice. I'm (well up until today's doctor visit) running 8ml a day of the P-bold and the recovery is freakish! No sooner do I get done with a heavy set then my muscles are ready for more. Almost as though I can't push them hard enough!

    Glad to see things are going so well for you. Not sure what to tell you about the taste of the new bottle other than it must be from a different batch?

    I didn't really mean recovery between sets. I meant recovery day to day. It's not only the 5aOHP though. I think everything is contributing in this stack. One thing I've noticed is emotional sides though. When I see something on tv that is really sad, it is really sad. So I don't know whats up with that. Wondering if I should start erase pro every other day or every three days just in case. Not sure though and I don't want be paranoid like a lot of others I see posting. I've never had gyno and never even developed symptoms so I probably shouldn't worry. I've even read that Androhard can actually prevent gyno. Read that on the AndroHard write up on Primordials site.

  5. Crappy ass workout today. Lost some strength. I've come across this problem before though where I'm fine on Tues-Wed workouts and then lose a lot of steam come Friday-Saturday.

    Examples

    Tuesday workout

    Squats Reps 12,8,6

    Leg Curls reps 12,7,7

    Preacher curls 10,4,4

    Triceps pressdown 12,7,6

    Deadlift 10,5,4

    Today's workout (Friday)

    Squats reps 10,6,5

    Leg curl 11,6,7

    Preacher curls 5,6,3

    Tricep pressdown 12,7,8 - also had to lower weight by 10 pounds on this one

    Deadlift 5,3,2


    So now that I look at it I guess it is not that bad. These are just examples. I left out a few exercises. Anyway I'm thinking it could be Anabeta is requiring me to eat more calories and that is the reason why I lose strength on these two days. You see on my carb up I eat as much as I can really and the two workout days after that I'm fine as far as strength goes. Then on wed-sun I eat significantly less calories and of course only 30 carbs or less. I don't plan on upping my carbs ever on these days, that is just how my diet works. So I'm gonna stop the Anabeta on low carb days. Just going to take it on carb ups. I've done this before and switched back and fourth between taking it just on carb ups and then on both carb ups and low carb days. The difference now is I'm lifting much heavier than last year in which all I did was diet for the entire year. So calories/diet/supplements have to be manipulated differently for my changing goals. So the plan is to stop the anabeta today and only take it on carb ups for now. Another difference in workout days between tue-wed and fri-sat is that on friday and saturday I take 5 NRC Cabergolean pre-workout. I don't know but maybe that is making me tired. First things first though, eliminate Anabeta from low carb days.

  6. I did concentrate on form more today on my squats though. I saw a guy the other day doing squats with poor form so I figured I would check myself so I could respect myself.

  7. Then again, I do actually have obsessive compulsive dis-order. So concentrating too much on my form could lead me to an extra hour in the gym-no joke.

  8. Feeling bloated lately.

  9. Also super tired today. Could hardly stay awake all day. Barely enough energy to make food.

  10. In for this, always appreciated your honesty and straightforwardness. Do you think the mood/bloating could be due to your supplementation?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    In for this, always appreciated your honesty and straightforwardness. Do you think the mood/bloating could be due to your supplementation?

    I'm not sure. The bloating could possibly be from my intake of whole psyllium husks. I take 2 heaping tablespoons daily and also a half tablespoon of equate brand fiber/Metamucil clone orange flavor. Bloating could be because I haven't been drinking enough water the past few days. As far as the mood I have no idea right now what that could be.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I like Cheeseburgers.
    This why you are bloated?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    This why you are bloated?

    Lol. I only inhale cheeseburgers on carb up!.

  14. Ok today went much better. I gained 2 reps on my flat dumbell bench. Sure its not much but it is something and it counts. Gained a few reps on some other exercises and maintained on most. Decline bench I lost strength/reps on. That was the only exercise I lost a bit of strength on though. Otherwise things went much much better today. I don't feel bloated and I had plenty of endurance throughout my entire workout. I'm not tired like I was yesterday either. The only difference between today and yesterday is I stopped taking anbeta. For now on I will only take it during my carb ups.

    If I didn't say this already, my goal is a "recomp" and to gain some strength while possibly losing a bit of fat. Today was a complete 180 as far as energy goes compared to yesterday.

  15. I have to say that Super Cissus Rx is really helping me out. I could never do heavy flat presses because of a shoulder problem. Now though, 2 weeks into my bottle I'm actually able to do presses without pain or discomfort. Hopefully things continue like this. Of course I switched from using barbells to dumbells a while back and that has helped tremendously too.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I have to say that Super Cissus Rx is really helping me out. I could never do heavy flat presses because of a shoulder problem. Now though, 2 weeks into my bottle I'm actually able to do presses without pain or discomfort. Hopefully things continue like this. Of course I switched from using barbells to dumbells a while back and that has helped tremendously too.
    The Osta should help with joint discomfort as well


  17. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    The Osta should help with joint discomfort as well
    I have read that but have not seen any reports of it actually helping that much. Just have to hope and pray things continue like this. Still have a way to go on this cycle. Today makes exactly 2 weeks on.

  18. I'm not saying my joints are perfect, not by any means. I can still feel my shoulder as "tweaked" a bit on days I do presses. Also my knees have always bothered me somewhat. Its just that lately there is some relief from this and its not holding me back as much.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I have read that but have not seen any reports of it actually helping that much. Just have to hope and pray things continue like this. Still have a way to go on this cycle. Today makes exactly 2 weeks on.
    Ya I only posted that because it did help my joints


  20. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Ya I only posted that because it did help my joints
    Thanks. That is good to know, you're pretty big and from what I've seen you post you lift really heavy so I would guess you have had a lot of joint problems in the past. How long did you run it and was it research grade or Osta Rx by IronMagLabs?.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Thanks. That is good to know, you're pretty big and from what I've seen you post you lift really heavy so I would guess you have had a lot of joint problems in the past. How long did you run it and was it research grade or Osta Rx by IronMagLabs?.
    Osta Rx for ~5 weeks, noticed the ease in joint pain around the 3rd week


  22. Not that my joints hurt or anything, they actually feel good. However I have noticed more frequent "crackling" sounds. This is normal for me though. I get cracking noises in my elbows, shoulders, knees, neck, even my feet. In fact today I just noticed a new cracking coming from my right heel. I thought I maybe had something stuck to the bottom of my feet, but nope it was my heel making that noise. It sounded like I had flip flops on!.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Not that my joints hurt or anything, they actually feel good. However I have noticed more frequent "crackling" sounds. This is normal for me though. I get cracking noises in my elbows, shoulders, knees, neck, even my feet. In fact today I just noticed a new cracking coming from my right heel. I thought I maybe had something stuck to the bottom of my feet, but nope it was my heel making that noise. It sounded like I had flip flops on!.
    Haha, cracking in the heel...first I've ever heard. When you walk I bet a whole chorus goes off

  24. The SCRx is one of my staple supps because of how well it works for my joints and tendons! I buy it in bulk and cap it myself. Tried not capping it and just mixing it with food but that got old real fast!
    "Aren't two sparrows sold for a small coin? But not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father knowing about it already. Even the hairs of your head are all counted. Don't be afraid. You are worth more than many sparrows."

  25. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    The SCRx is one of my staple supps because of how well it works for my joints and tendons! I buy it in bulk and cap it myself. Tried not capping it and just mixing it with food but that got old real fast!
    I'm about 1/2 way done with my bottle of Super Cissus Rx. I'm not quite sure about it now. Today I'm feeling some pain in my in the back of my left shoulder. It is a familiar pain that has happened before. I've been to the doctor about it twice, two different doctors but they had the same opinion. Nothing is physically wrong. Both of them basically told me that I'm getting old. One of the guys said that it is probably a genetic thing also and that someone else down the line in my family may have the same problem either on the left side or right side of their shoulder. So I'm pretty much told to "get over it" and "suck it up". Oh well hopefully the pain gets better by the time I do chest again(Saturday)....Today is a day off. If not, I'll just push through it.

    Anyway my last two workouts went great. Of course they were Tuesday and Wednesday workouts. Wednesday I really killed it. I mean I just attacked the weights. Added reps on almost everything, plus added about 5-10 pounds on most exercises. Also noticing I'm not breathing as heavy between sets. I could add more sets but I don't think that is smart. Plus it would add a lot of extra time to my gym session.

    Still getting emotional sides once in a while. Yesterday I felt really down for some reason. It may have been the 5aOHP because I took a huge dose before my workout, 6ml. Let me tell you though, taking that much at once does indeed make a difference with strength and energy in the gym. The thing is I continued taking 2 ml doses after the gym and kind of lost count of how much I actually took yesterday. Still though I had one of the best workouts I had in a long time yesterday.

  26. Killed on Wednesday huh?

    Keep lighting it up in the gym man.
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Killed on Wednesday huh?

    Keep lighting it up in the gym man.
    Yep, it was one of those really good gym days where everything seems to go right.
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