Rome Recomps with Compound 20

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza View Post
    How can c20 make someone stim tolerant
    Wasn't saying that it was a stim. Just curious if he has a history of metabolism/energy level becoming dependant on supps or not. Some keep the "boost" feeling of supps for the entire run, others find they have to either take more to feel effect or just feel normalized on reg dose after a bit. Might be a stretch to correlate stim and non stim products in this way, but I've had this experience with non stims in the past. Could also be psychosomatic, who knows.

    Was bouncing between threads and didn't really explain what I was asking, sorry.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    That's quite the stack, Rome!

    Do you have a history of stim tolerance/dependance? Wondering if C20 is starting to make you dependant upon it to be alert. Of course a lot of stress in your life will do that to you too, also will increase cortisol.
    I am very tolerant when it comes to stims. I can drink a monster and go to bed 10 minutes later
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    That's quite the stack, Rome!

    Do you have a history of stim tolerance/dependance? Wondering if C20 is starting to make you dependant upon it to be alert. Of course a lot of stress in your life will do that to you too, also will increase cortisol.
    I am very tolerant when it comes to stims. I can drink a monster and go to bed 10 minutes later. I usually take the highest recommended doses for preworkouts

    And Clem I think he meant maybe due to all my stress lately I've be one dependent in taking energy supplements or the C20 has some psychological effect to where I believe I need the product. I got that way on my last log too. If it wasn't perfect I felt my whole body was out of whack ha.

    I hope it ends soon because I have a lot of prep to do! Ha

  4. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    Wasn't saying that it was a stim. Just curious if he has a history of metabolism/energy level becoming dependant on supps or not. Some keep the "boost" feeling of supps for the entire run, others find they have to either take more to feel effect or just feel normalized on reg dose after a bit. Might be a stretch to correlate stim and non stim products in this way, but I've had this experience with non stims in the past. Could also be psychosomatic, who knows.

    Was bouncing between threads and didn't really explain what I was asking, sorry.
    My bad I didn't read your post correctly. But my question was serious. Bc I've heard people saying c20 can enhance the effects of stims. If this is true I'm curious as to if it can cause stim tolerance.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza

    My bad I didn't read your post correctly. But my question was serious. Bc I've heard people saying c20 can enhance the effects of stims. If this is true I'm curious as to if it can cause stim tolerance.
    I've found with some supps that increase energy or some other metabolic action an apparent suppression of natural energy levels that usually leads to increase in dosage or shortened time between doses.

    Just drawing a similarity between this phenomena typical of stims and what romes experiencing with the c20
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    ...Before I cut I am going to take Ostra RX and Exemestane(4 weeks) followed by Anabeta Elite(4 weeks)

    Which then I will start my OEP, Formula-X, AT2, SS Meth-Syn, Shift, and maybe Agmatine log prepping for my first show at the Lakewood in Ohio!!

    I was thinking of adding a cortisol reducer here soon for the lower ab fat(cortisol related if I'm correct). So any suggestions guys?!
    You can add a product that will help re cortisol control if you want, but it doesn't mean that your "lower ab fat" is going to go, just so you know, since it is going to be far more dependent on factors aside from stress, and most certainly supplements are only going to be a SMALL part of your progress/results. But, re recommendations, personally I love Erase and it has far more benefits than just cortisol control, all of which would be beneficial for competition preparation.

    On another note, I take it you're not going to do a "natural" competition, and if you were, you'd want to check what compounds/products can and cannot be used before doing thus.

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee

    You can add a product that will help re cortisol control if you want, but it doesn't mean that your "lower ab fat" is going to go, just so you know, since it is going to be far more dependent on factors aside from stress, and most certainly supplements are only going to be a SMALL part of your progress/results. But, re recommendations, personally I love Erase and it has far more benefits than just cortisol control, all of which would be beneficial for competition preparation.

    On another note, I take it you're not going to do a "natural" competition, and if you were, you'd want to check what compounds/products can and cannot be used before doing thus.

    ~Rosie~
    Thanks Rosie.

    I am actually on my break from Erase Pro(8 week run) as we speak. And the diet and training are good, life stress factors are killing me at the point. Like a constant headache.

    The Ostra Rx and Exemestane was a curious idea. I want to use them, but still debating.

    But again thank you for your input!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny

    I've found with some supps that increase energy or some other metabolic action an apparent suppression of natural energy levels that usually leads to increase in dosage or shortened time between doses.

    Just drawing a similarity between this phenomena typical of stims and what romes experiencing with the c20
    Look around for me and see if you can find something that has more insight on this topic. Interesting to say the least.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Clemenza

    My bad I didn't read your post correctly. But my question was serious. Bc I've heard people saying c20 can enhance the effects of stims. If this is true I'm curious as to if it can cause stim tolerance.
    We're in the same boat

  11. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    Thanks Rosie.

    I am actually on my break from Erase Pro(8 week run) as we speak. And the diet and training are good, life stress factors are killing me at the point. Like a constant headache.

    The Ostra Rx and Exemestane was a curious idea. I want to use them, but still debating.

    But again thank you for your input!
    No worries

    Ok - apologies for not knowing. If you're going to have at least a month before starting your second proposed stack, then it'd be ok to add in - that is, if you want to. There are other things out there that you can use though - Lean Xtreme, for example, or Suppress-C if you're looking for a topical, etc.

    I recommend that you choose your organization and then make that decision on usage or not - you don't want to take any chances.


    Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    Look around for me and see if you can find something that has more insight on this topic. Interesting to say the least.
    The manufacturers of the product should be able to provide insight into this - query them.

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  12. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    I am very tolerant when it comes to stims. I can drink a monster and go to bed 10 minutes later
    Same here I slam back a xl coffee and my sons hockey games (he's 17 so they play pretty late)..and no issues with sleep.

    Rome what about adding in ECA stack during your cut?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post

    The Ostra Rx and Exemestane was a curious idea.

    Been following an Ostra long on here.. sounds pretty good.. Expensive stuff though...

    Is Exemestane an anti-aromatase?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by wasme

    Been following an Ostra long on here.. sounds pretty good.. Expensive stuff though...

    Is Exemestane an anti-aromatase?
    Yeah exemestane is

  15. Quote Originally Posted by wasme

    Been following an Ostra long on here.. sounds pretty good.. Expensive stuff though...

    Is Exemestane an anti-aromatase?
    Yeah exemestane is.

    Can you post the link to that log for me on here brother?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by wasme

    Same here I slam back a xl coffee and my sons hockey games (he's 17 so they play pretty late)..and no issues with sleep.

    Rome what about adding in ECA stack during your cut?
    I was thinking about it. I may add it I may not.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee

    No worries

    Ok - apologies for not knowing. If you're going to have at least a month before starting your second proposed stack, then it'd be ok to add in - that is, if you want to. There are other things out there that you can use though - Lean Xtreme, for example, or Suppress-C if you're looking for a topical, etc.

    I recommend that you choose your organization and then make that decision on usage or not - you don't want to take any chances.

    The manufacturers of the product should be able to provide insight into this - query them.

    ~Rosie~
    Supress-c is a cortisol topical? Interesting. I'm going to check out out thanks!

    Everscerate Smolder looks good for a fat burnering topical as well.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    Supress-c is a cortisol topical? Interesting. I'm going to check out out thanks!

    Everscerate Smolder looks good for a fat burnering topical as well.
    Yes Suppress-C is.

    Eviscerate Smolder is good, but is not a topical re cortisol control.

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee

    Yes Suppress-C is.

    Eviscerate Smolder is good, but is not a topical re cortisol control.

    ~Rosie~
    Right ES is a fat burning topical.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    Right ES is a fat burning topical.
    I personally preferred the original Eviscerate re effectiveness, but if you'd rather less burn, then Eviscerate Smolder is recommended.

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee

    I personally preferred the original Eviscerate re effectiveness, but if you'd rather less burn, then Eviscerate Smolder is recommended.

    ~Rosie~
    So you think the original is more effective?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    So you think the original is more effective?
    It is - as far as ingredients (you'll know this if you read the write-up on it), but it also was more effective for me overall, although I eventually opted to used the Smolder, because being in the US my skin started being so sensitive the original burned me for HOURS afterwards.

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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee

    It is - as far as ingredients (you'll know this if you read the write-up on it), but it also was more effective for me overall, although I eventually opted to used the Smolder, because being in the US my skin started being so sensitive the original burned me for HOURS afterwards.

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    Kevinhy told me it was painful, but was it really worth the pain? If so I can handle it ha

  24. So what's happening with c20?

    Are you noticing the fullness? Appetite increase?

    U said u lost your love handles? If so nice job!
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1
    So what's happening with c20?

    Are you noticing the fullness? Appetite increase?

    U said u lost your love handles? If so ni ce job!
    Def keeping size in my arms, shoulders, and of course legs. Pretty much all overuse still feel pumped up, of I take it accordingly.

    Also I feel like its Anabeta as far as appetite, increase, but I've learned to control it.

    The love handle loss from my long term bulk makes it worth it. I'm hoping to rediscover my abs here in the next few weeks!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    Kevinhy told me it was painful, but was it really worth the pain? If so I can handle it ha
    It depends on the individual, really. It didn't really bother me until my second tube over here - my skin has become so sensitive that I will not even use Smolder now, because it has started burning as badly. You'd have to try it and see for yourself.

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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee

    It depends on the individual, really. It didn't really bother me until my second tube over here - my skin has become so sensitive that I will not even use Smolder now, because it has started burning as badly. You'd have to try it and see for yourself.

    ~Rosie~
    I will, thanks again for your help Rosie!

  28. Get off work in 3 hours and gonna make my arms blow up!!

    Another stressful day ha

  29. Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    I will, thanks again for your help Rosie!
    No worries


    Quote Originally Posted by rome32 View Post
    Get off work in 3 hours and gonna make my arms blow up!!

    Another stressful day ha
    Hope you killed that stress in the gym, bud!

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  30. Just getting to the gym now..ipod in. I don't plan on destroying the weights tonight... annihilation seems to be the word of choice.
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