[jaycuda]

I'm all new to these cleans... Would this be included on back day, shoulder day or what?

I'm currently just doing them with my calf days, logically it would make the most sense to put them with your leg day since a majority of the power is from your legs. When you're first learning the clean, I could see it using more back than it should and the jerk will probably involve more of your shoulders.

Once your form is down pat, my vote would be a leg day.

[mattrag]

I'm currently just doing them with my calf days, logically it would make the most sense to put them with your leg day since a majority of the power is from your legs. When you're first learning the clean, I could see it using more back than it should and the jerk will probably involve more of your shoulders.

Once your form is down pat, my vote would be a leg day.

I do then on dead lift day. But only because my CNS is pretty pumped after a set of heavy deads and my clean weight feels light.

And holy shiet. 245?
I just keep thinking elbows out, jump straight up, pop the hips (not a lot) and shrug like hell.

I do cleans 4x a week now though. 2 days of technical work, one day of reps, and one day ME. I'm getting the pull under really well now though. Its just I can't receive in proper positioning because of elbow flex... I tend to over compensate by leaning forward. Which is a horrible thing to do....

[jaycuda]

I do then on dead lift day. But only because my CNS is pretty pumped after a set of heavy deads and my clean weight feels light.

And holy shiet. 245?
I just keep thinking elbows out, jump straight up, pop the hips (not a lot) and shrug like hell.

I do cleans 4x a week now though. 2 days of technical work, one day of reps, and one day ME. I'm getting the pull under really well now though. Its just I can't receive in proper positioning because of elbow flex... I tend to over compensate by leaning forward. Which is a horrible thing to do....

245 is butter aslong as you can front squat it and stop overpulling.

[AaronJP1]

I'm currently stacking oxyelite and C20. I have run an 8 week cycle of oxy and loved it! I started C20 about three days ago and have seen my appetite go through the roof! I'm seriously doubting its a placebo effect. LOL

Someone told me that means it's kicking up the metabolism....
Same thing happened to me....
I'd like to run a c20, prime, pink magic stack, never fully got to use pink magic and I'd be curious as to how it works with Prime.

Good job here to Jay w/log.

[jaycuda]

Someone told me that means it's kicking up the metabolism....
Same thing happened to me....
I'd like to run a c20, prime, pink magic stack, never fully got to use pink magic and I'd be curious as to how it works with Prime.

Good job here to Jay w/log.

That'd definitely be an interesting log. Would be a good bit of pills to keep track of lol

[AaronJP1]

That'd definitely be an interesting log. Would be a good bit of pills to keep track of lol

Right.

I read you wanna be 185 @ 10% thats legit....

I'd like to be 210 @ 13%. doubt I'll get there and I worked so hard to see this 195, but I need some body fat loss....

[jaycuda]

Right.

I read you wanna be 185 @ 10% thats legit....

I'd like to be 210 @ 13%. doubt I'll get there and I worked so hard to see this 195, but I need some body fat loss....

Yeah, 185 is the long term goal. Once I reach it I'll probably end up aiming for higher, but at the moment it sounds perfect.

[NeoHippie]

Someone told me that means it's kicking up the metabolism....
Same thing happened to me....
I'd like to run a c20, prime, pink magic stack, never fully got to use pink magic and I'd be curious as to how it works with Prime.

Good job here to Jay w/log.

My appetite has returned to baseline levels just about. Honestly, it has been three weeks since I started C20. I haven't really noticed any changes other than the increase appetite the first couple of days. Even my precious Oxyelite isn't working like it used to and I took the full month off. Oh well, my Alpha T2 arrives today assuming I don't miss the delivery. So my stack will be Oxy, C20, and Alpha. Let the games begin! LOL!

[jaycuda]

May 8th, Regular day off.

Ate a delicious scratch made biscuit with a chicken fillet for breakfast to start my day and then spent the day out on the boat with some friends. Easy going day and was a good break.

[jaycuda]

May 11th, Back & Triceps.

Barbell Rows
115x12
155x12
185x10
185x10
185x10

Pulls up
BWx15
BW+45x12
BW+45x12
BW+45x10

Lat Pulldowns
90x10
150x10
170x10
170x10

Close grip Bench Press
135x10
185x5
205x5
225x5
245x5
255x5
255x5

Dips
BWx15
BW+75x10
BW+75x10
BW+90x10
BW+135x3
BW+160x1 +2 "f*ck no"s <--- hahahaha. Was joking around with a gym acquaintance, told him I was the king of dips. He showed me up pretty bad, not sure how many 45's he managed to put on. lol

DB Pullovers
50x8
70x8
70x8
70x10

[jaycuda]

May 12th, Calf/Wild card.

Just made it a Snatch and Clean & Jerk day. This day I felt a lot stronger actually, especially over head with jerks. Felt pretty good.

[jaycuda]

May 14th, Chest/Biceps.

Incline DB Bench -
55'sx10
65'sx10
75'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
95'sx4

Dumbbell Flys
20x15
25x15
30x15
30x15

Cambered Bar curls
45x10
65x10
80x10
80x14
90x8

DB Hammer Curls
40'sx10
45'sx10
45'sx12

Preacher Curls
45x8
55x8
55x8

[mattrag]

May 14th, Chest/Biceps.

Incline DB Bench -
55'sx10
65'sx10
75'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
85'sx5
95'sx4

Dumbbell Flys
20x15
25x15
30x15
30x15

Cambered Bar curls
45x10
65x10
80x10
80x14
90x8

DB Hammer Curls
40'sx10
45'sx10
45'sx12

Preacher Curls
45x8
55x8
55x8

Nice chest day. Seeing you tried to be the king of dips only a couple days ago I think you held up well lol.

[p5sky]

Hey Jay!!! How did I miss this? I will go back and read up!

[p5sky]

Wow, we're still about equal on workouts . . . we'd be great training partners! Meet up in the middle of the country 2x per week?

[jaycuda]

Nice chest day. Seeing you tried to be the king of dips only a couple days ago I think you held up well lol.

Yeah, I need to catch up to the guy who owned me haha

Hey Jay!!! How did I miss this? I will go back and read up!

Slacking man

[jaycuda]

Wow, we're still about equal on workouts . . . we'd be great training partners! Meet up in the middle of the country 2x per week?

I think we would end up missing out on work outs on the way back home lol

[jaycuda]

May 17th, Shoulders/Traps.


Barbell Military Press
135x5
175x5
175x5
185x5
185x5

Front Raises
10'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
25'sx12

Dumbbell Lateral Raises
15'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
30'sx10

Barbell Shrugs
135x15
225x10
315x10
315x10
315x12

Dumbbell Shrugs
75'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10

Upright rows
45x12
65x12
65x12

Power Cleans
135x5
185x5
215x5
225x5
225x5
235x4 <--Should have been an easy 5 but I was burnt. It felt so heavy doing them at the end of my work out.

[mattrag]

May 17th, Shoulders/Traps.

Barbell Military Press
135x5
175x5
175x5
185x5
185x5

Front Raises
10'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
25'sx12

Dumbbell Lateral Raises
15'sx10
20'sx10
25'sx10
30'sx10

Barbell Shrugs
135x15
225x10
315x10
315x10
315x12

Dumbbell Shrugs
75'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10
90'sx10

Upright rows
45x12
65x12
65x12

Power Cleans
135x5
185x5
215x5
225x5
225x5
235x4 <--Should have been an easy 5 but I was burnt. It felt so heavy doing them at the end of my work out.

Damn... This workout is amazing.... I can't do military presses for 175x5 I can push presses lol.
Those are some mean as hell power cleans though... I barely can get 175 up for a double...

Good stuff man.,

[jaycuda]

Damn... This workout is amazing.... I can't do military presses for 175x5 I can push presses lol.
Those are some mean as hell power cleans though... I barely can get 175 up for a double...

Good stuff man.,

The first press is the hardest one lol. Power cleans get easier once you can full clean heavy weight. If I could jerk what I can clean I'd be focusing on the Olympics lol. Unfortunately I can't.

[mattrag]

The first press is the hardest one lol. Power cleans get easier once you can full clean heavy weight. If I could jerk what I can clean I'd be focusing on the Olympics lol. Unfortunately I can't.

Haha. You beast.
I wanna be able to clean 315... Man I saw klokov push press 225kg. That is amazing.

[jaycuda]

Haha. You beast.
I wanna be able to clean 315... Man I saw klokov push press 225kg. That is amazing.

Yeah f*ck that guy. haha

[mattrag]

Yeah f*ck that guy. haha

Makes me wanna get a lot stronger lol.

[jaycuda]

Makes me wanna get a lot stronger lol.

I want him to be my workout partner

[MrMcBride1]

Jaycuda,

Way back you mentioned you hate calf workouts. Me 2...but oddly my calfs are unsually big and cut naturally.

Sub'ed to this.

I've been doing the "Super Duper" Asteriod Stack for about 16weeks, alternating OEP bottles and Recreate. It's been crazy Good! I'm taking:

Pink Magic
Prime
C20
OEP or Recreate
Powerfull
USP Labs BCAAs in PWO

and my other staples.

It's gota be one of the best Natty stacks out there right now.