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  1. I do my cardio 3hrs before or after lifting.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    I do my cardio 3hrs before or after lifting.
    I also prefer to do my cardio on opposite ends of the day as my lifting... if I lift in the AM (before work), I do cardio in the PM (after work). I've heard many different theories from different people saying it is or is not the best way of doing it, all I know is, my body likes it this way, both for energy reasons and not feeling like total $hit all day every day and also for fat-burning reasons, so for me and my body, it is the best way... Win...win!!!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc

    I also prefer to do my cardio on opposite ends of the day as my lifting... if I lift in the AM (before work), I do cardio in the PM (after work). I've heard many different theories from different people saying it is or is not the best way of doing it, all I know is, my body likes it this way, both for energy reasons and not feeling like total $hit all day every day and also for fat-burning reasons, so for me and my body, it is the best way... Win...win!!!
    I hear ya on listening to the body. For me 3 hrs apart from lifting allows me to put out maximal to each session because of the rest time between and then also still allows a long recovery window till my next set of workouts. I actually stole the idea from Crossfit Endurance.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I used use motivate for cardio in the morning.. I am doing a lot of my cardio right after my workout cuz my favorite machine is at the gym. Ignite 2 has plenty of stickem to get my through both
    Yeah it lasts a good amount of time. I really enjoy it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I also prefer to do my cardio on opposite ends of the day as my lifting... if I lift in the AM (before work), I do cardio in the PM (after work). I've heard many different theories from different people saying it is or is not the best way of doing it, all I know is, my body likes it this way, both for energy reasons and not feeling like total $hit all day every day and also for fat-burning reasons, so for me and my body, it is the best way... Win...win!!!
    I prefer to do my cardio on separate days from lifting myself. To me there is no reason for me to do cardio on a day that I want to build muscle. I am eating higher calories intentionally to build muscle so why try to burn extra calories that day? For ME it doesn't make a lot of sense. Seems no matter which way you go with it you are taking something away from the other intention. Either growth or fat loss is going to take a hit that day. I am actually planning on starting to double up my cardio but it will be doubled up on my cardio days, not my lifting days. Now if only cutting is the concern then by all means cardio on lift days is also a part of the regiment.
    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    I hear ya on listening to the body. For me 3 hrs apart from lifting allows me to put out maximal to each session because of the rest time between and then also still allows a long recovery window till my next set of workouts. I actually stole the idea from Crossfit Endurance.
    I was about to say you must be doing some performance based cardio to need that break. The Crossfit mention gives me an idea of the intensity of some of your cardio.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Yeah it lasts a good amount of time. I really enjoy it.

    I prefer to do my cardio on separate days from lifting myself. To me there is no reason for me to do cardio on a day that I want to build muscle. I am eating higher calories intentionally to build muscle so why try to burn extra calories that day? For ME it doesn't make a lot of sense. Seems no matter which way you go with it you are taking something away from the other intention. Either growth or fat loss is going to take a hit that day. I am actually planning on starting to double up my cardio but it will be doubled up on my cardio days, not my lifting days. Now if only cutting is the concern then by all means cardio on lift days is also a part of the regiment.

    I was about to say you must be doing some performance based cardio to need that break. The Crossfit mention gives me an idea of the intensity of some of your cardio.
    Correct. My lifting is a 5x5 4 days a week, but my cardio is mostly performance based. I have an essential need for it in my job, but I also run various endurance races as well
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  6. Nice, 5x5 is such a fun workout too. My joints have a hard time standing up to it for very long. Too many years of steady abuse...

    What kind of endurance races? I really want to take up biking myself but I don't have the funds at the moment for even a decent bike.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73
    Nice, 5x5 is such a fun workout too. My joints have a hard time standing up to it for very long. Too many years of steady abuse...

    What kind of endurance races? I really want to take up biking myself but I don't have the funds at the moment for even a decent bike.
    Outside of my job I run a lot of races. 5k - full marathons. This last year I have transitioned from road races to trail races which I find much much more enjoyable. I used to mountain bike, but have been out of it for awhile. Going to by a bike again after this coming deployment. There was a guy on here who was selling a pretty decent road bike for 500 with some good accessories and aftermarket parts. Otherwise Craigslist is a good place to scope for deals. A little patience and monitoring can lead to nice finds.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Nice, 5x5 is such a fun workout too. My joints have a hard time standing up to it for very long. Too many years of steady abuse...

    What kind of endurance races? I really want to take up biking myself but I don't have the funds at the moment for even a decent bike.

    Yah I convert that to 5/5/5/8/12 and only do that kind of routine about twice a year for no longer than 4 weeks. Joints won't take any more...
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  9. Lots of good discussion guys! Keep it up! I'm learning a lot here.

    As for Cardio, I'm a lot like Kleen in that respect. For the most part, I like keeping my cardio and lifting days separate. I like the idea of training and eating for what my goal is that day. Cardio and low Cal's/carbs on the same day for a "burn" and higher Cal's and carbs on workout days for a "build". When i am more geared towards cutting I will gave more burn days in the week, and when I'm geared more towards building I will have more of those. At times though I have done some LISS in the pm on lifting days (usually incline treadmill walking) when trying to dry out and tighten up more.

    5x5 is something I'm seriously considering going to very soon in a month or so when i start another cycle. I'm still a little unsure how its all set up though. I know its 5 sets of 5 reps o'er exercise, but I'm not exactly sure how the progression on weight is supposed to be set up. For anyone that has good input on that I would appreciate it!!

    Now to the update!!....

    Today is a burn day, and first experience with Ignite 2 or any preworkout for that matter while doing cardio. I generally just use burners on these days, so it was a nice change to compare.

    Well, I certainly had much more energy than I was used to for a cardio session which was a nice bonus. From the get go, I was ready to kill it. Usually I don't get a lot of vascularity coming through during cardio, but today I did. I'm sure the blend in Ignite 2 was probably the reason for this. After about 10 minutes I really had some serious sweating going on, and after about 20 minutes I was sweating more than I can recall EVER sweating during a cardio session! What the hell is in Ignite to make that happen? I figured I would sweat more on a burner, but not today. I soaked my shirt even more than when I ran S4, and that's saying a lot!!

    The session went great and I ended with a good burn....

    30 minutes running (not jogging Kleen ) @ 8 MPH for a 410 cal burn

    15 minutes HIIT elliptical for 200 cal burn

    Total:610 Cal's burned

    Followed that up with some weighted ab work and leg raises

    I may do a little light cardio after work to make a total burn of 1k today
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Lots of good discussion guys! Keep it up! I'm learning a lot here.

    As for Cardio, I'm a lot like Kleen in that respect. For the most part, I like keeping my cardio and lifting days separate. I like the idea of training and eating for what my goal is that day. Cardio and low Cal's/carbs on the same day for a "burn" and higher Cal's and carbs on workout days for a "build". When i am more geared towards cutting I will gave more burn days in the week, and when I'm geared more towards building I will have more of those. At times though I have done some LISS in the pm on lifting days (usually incline treadmill walking) when trying to dry out and tighten up more.

    5x5 is something I'm seriously considering going to very soon in a month or so when i start another cycle. I'm still a little unsure how its all set up though. I know its 5 sets of 5 reps o'er exercise, but I'm not exactly sure how the progression on weight is supposed to be set up. For anyone that has good input on that I would appreciate it!!

    Now to the update!!....

    Today is a burn day, and first experience with Ignite 2 or any preworkout for that matter while doing cardio. I generally just use burners on these days, so it was a nice change to compare.

    Well, I certainly had much more energy than I was used to for a cardio session which was a nice bonus. From the get go, I was ready to kill it. Usually I don't get a lot of vascularity coming through during cardio, but today I did. I'm sure the blend in Ignite 2 was probably the reason for this. After about 10 minutes I really had some serious sweating going on, and after about 20 minutes I was sweating more than I can recall EVER sweating during a cardio session! What the hell is in Ignite to make that happen? I figured I would sweat more on a burner, but not today. I soaked my shirt even more than when I ran S4, and that's saying a lot!!

    The session went great and I ended with a good burn....

    30 minutes running (not jogging Kleen ) @ 8 MPH for a 410 cal burn

    15 minutes HIIT elliptical for 200 cal burn

    Total:610 Cal's burned

    Followed that up with some weighted ab work and leg raises

    I may do a little light cardio after work to make a total burn of 1k today
    I notice when I workout on stims I am way above norm, energy wise. It might be the increase in output that made you sweat more. I find Ignite really empowers me at a phsyical level too...
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    I notice when I workout on stims I am way above norm, energy wise. It might be the increase in output that made you sweat more. I find Ignite really empowers me at a phsyical level too...
    That would make sense except that everything was done at the same pace and same settings at the same time. So I don't see how I could have pushed harder considering the pace is set for me (particularly the treadmill)
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Lots of good discussion guys! Keep it up! I'm learning a lot here.

    As for Cardio, I'm a lot like Kleen in that respect. For the most part, I like keeping my cardio and lifting days separate. I like the idea of training and eating for what my goal is that day. Cardio and low Cal's/carbs on the same day for a "burn" and higher Cal's and carbs on workout days for a "build". When i am more geared towards cutting I will gave more burn days in the week, and when I'm geared more towards building I will have more of those. At times though I have done some LISS in the pm on lifting days (usually incline treadmill walking) when trying to dry out and tighten up more.

    5x5 is something I'm seriously considering going to very soon in a month or so when i start another cycle. I'm still a little unsure how its all set up though. I know its 5 sets of 5 reps o'er exercise, but I'm not exactly sure how the progression on weight is supposed to be set up. For anyone that has good input on that I would appreciate it!!

    Now to the update!!....

    Today is a burn day, and first experience with Ignite 2 or any preworkout for that matter while doing cardio. I generally just use burners on these days, so it was a nice change to compare.

    Well, I certainly had much more energy than I was used to for a cardio session which was a nice bonus. From the get go, I was ready to kill it. Usually I don't get a lot of vascularity coming through during cardio, but today I did. I'm sure the blend in Ignite 2 was probably the reason for this. After about 10 minutes I really had some serious sweating going on, and after about 20 minutes I was sweating more than I can recall EVER sweating during a cardio session! What the hell is in Ignite to make that happen? I figured I would sweat more on a burner, but not today. I soaked my shirt even more than when I ran S4, and that's saying a lot!!

    The session went great and I ended with a good burn....

    30 minutes running (not jogging Kleen ) @ 8 MPH for a 410 cal burn

    15 minutes HIIT elliptical for 200 cal burn

    Total:610 Cal's burned

    Followed that up with some weighted ab work and leg raises

    I may do a little light cardio after work to make a total burn of 1k today
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    Yah I convert that to 5/5/5/8/12 and only do that kind of routine about twice a year for no longer than 4 weeks. Joints won't take any more...
    Each of my workouts starts with only like 2 main exercises that are done 5x5. The rest I consider accessory work and are typically done in the 8-12 range. That and I do a progressive schedule ie 60% of 1RM one week, 70% the next and so on, then go back to 60 based off new 1RM. So, it hasn't been too bad in the joints.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13
    Lots of good discussion guys! Keep it up! I'm learning a lot here.

    As for Cardio, I'm a lot like Kleen in that respect. For the most part, I like keeping my cardio and lifting days separate. I like the idea of training and eating for what my goal is that day. Cardio and low Cal's/carbs on the same day for a "burn" and higher Cal's and carbs on workout days for a "build". When i am more geared towards cutting I will gave more burn days in the week, and when I'm geared more towards building I will have more of those. At times though I have done some LISS in the pm on lifting days (usually incline treadmill walking) when trying to dry out and tighten up more.

    5x5 is something I'm seriously considering going to very soon in a month or so when i start another cycle. I'm still a little unsure how its all set up though. I know its 5 sets of 5 reps o'er exercise, but I'm not exactly sure how the progression on weight is supposed to be set up. For anyone that has good input on that I would appreciate it!!

    Now to the update!!....

    Today is a burn day, and first experience with Ignite 2 or any preworkout for that matter while doing cardio. I generally just use burners on these days, so it was a nice change to compare.

    Well, I certainly had much more energy than I was used to for a cardio session which was a nice bonus. From the get go, I was ready to kill it. Usually I don't get a lot of vascularity coming through during cardio, but today I did. I'm sure the blend in Ignite 2 was probably the reason for this. After about 10 minutes I really had some serious sweating going on, and after about 20 minutes I was sweating more than I can recall EVER sweating during a cardio session! What the hell is in Ignite to make that happen? I figured I would sweat more on a burner, but not today. I soaked my shirt even more than when I ran S4, and that's saying a lot!!

    The session went great and I ended with a good burn....

    30 minutes running (not jogging Kleen ) @ 8 MPH for a 410 cal burn

    15 minutes HIIT elliptical for 200 cal burn

    Total:610 Cal's burned

    Followed that up with some weighted ab work and leg raises

    I may do a little light cardio after work to make a total burn of 1k today
    I have a 5x5 program posted up in HQ. Otherwise there are good resources out there. For example strong lifts has an app that will tell you exactly what you should be doing when and how much. Only thing with SL is its 3 days a week. For my own sanity I need at least 4 days a wk. which mine is.

    You probably are right about the diet in conjunction with what type of training, but my diet is fairly crappy. It's not horrible, just not what it should be. Blame my Taiwanese wife and all her damn carbs and fried Chinese food.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat

    I have a 5x5 program posted up in HQ. Otherwise there are good resources out there. For example strong lifts has an app that will tell you exactly what you should be doing when and how much. Only thing with SL is its 3 days a week. For my own sanity I need at least 4 days a wk. which mine is.

    You probably are right about the diet in conjunction with what type of training, but my diet is fairly crappy. It's not horrible, just not what it should be. Blame my Taiwanese wife and all her damn carbs and fried Chinese food.
    I probably should be doing a performanced based workout so I can burn off all the food my Japanese wife feeds me... (which is mostly Japanese styled Chinese food... )

    It's a good program Rick. I'm moving to it after I complete pct.
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  16. I will definitely check into the 5x5. I've never tried it, and my hopes are that it will help bring some new mass and strength. As long as my joints hold up, I think it will work great
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Each of my workouts starts with only like 2 main exercises that are done 5x5. The rest I consider accessory work and are typically done in the 8-12 range. That and I do a progressive schedule ie 60% of 1RM one week, 70% the next and so on, then go back to 60 based off new 1RM. So, it hasn't been too bad in the joints.
    Yah progression is a very big help for the joints...if I knew than what I know now....
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  18. Late, but def in.

    I'll catch up on the reading this weekend.

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by morry
    Late, but def in.

    I'll catch up on the reading this weekend.

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    Glad to have you Morry!!
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  20. Damn good workout today. I felt incredible, was full of energy, and I killed it pretty good. Ignite helped out a lot and I think my dose was perfect on it. Had another heaping scoop of it and it seemed to really do the trick.

    My body composition looked great today. What surprised me is that my weight was up even after a burn day. I was 167, and looked to be holding very little water but very full. It was the perfect recipe for the gym. I had insane vascularity, huge pumps, and looked pretty big.



    Quads/arms

    Squats
    135x15
    225x12x11
    245x9x8
    275x6
    245x8
    225x10x10

    Leg extension
    160x10x10x10x10

    Weighted dips
    BW + 90 x 15
    BW + 135 x 7x6(drop), +90x11(drop)+45x12(drop)BWx13

    Triceps push Downs
    120x12
    130x11x10x10

    Alternate DB curls
    45sx12
    50sx11
    55sx9
    50sx10

    Ez bar preachers (@ 90 degree angle)
    65x12
    75x10x10
    65x11
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  21. ^^^Rick... You are killing it Brotha, I Love it!!!^^^
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Damn good workout today. I felt incredible, was full of energy, and I killed it pretty good. Ignite helped out a lot and I think my dose was perfect on it. Had another heaping scoop of it and it seemed to really do the trick.

    My body composition looked great today. What surprised me is that my weight was up even after a burn day. I was 167, and looked to be holding very little water but very full. It was the perfect recipe for the gym. I had insane vascularity, huge pumps, and looked pretty big.



    Quads/arms

    Squats
    135x15
    225x12x11
    245x9x8
    275x6
    245x8
    225x10x10

    Leg extension
    160x10x10x10x10

    Weighted dips
    BW + 90 x 15
    BW + 135 x 7x6(drop), +90x11(drop)+45x12(drop)BWx13

    Triceps push Downs
    120x12
    130x11x10x10

    Alternate DB curls
    45sx12
    50sx11
    55sx9
    50sx10

    Ez bar preachers (@ 90 degree angle)
    65x12
    75x10x10
    65x11
    hmm you're running it every day, could be the creatrona and amped DAA combo for the extra 2 lbs
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

    hmm you're running it every day, could be the creatrona and amped DAA combo for the extra 2 lbs
    Possibly. I have a decent fullness, but no bloat (or very little), so wherever the effects are coming from its pretty positive!!
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  24. I gave Ignite 2 a very good test today for a burn day. I've been contemplating entering a half-marathon sometime this summer when I feel I'm ready, and I've been planning to start training for it in my cardio sessions for a while....Figured today was a good day to start!!

    So, after a nice big scoop of Ignite 2, I hit the treadmill with a goal in mind. See how fast I can get in half the distance to start. A half marathon is 13 miles, so i figured if I start at half the distance (6.5 miles) and add in a mile or two each week, I might be ready for this thing by summertime!

    I'm already used to hitting the treadmill running for 4-5 miles 3 times a week, so I knew I could get the distance, just wanted to make sure I could keep the pace up.

    After about 15 minutes of my dose of Ignite, I was amped up and full of energy to try it out. I did varied speed of 8-9 MPH, but I reached my goal and got 6.5 miles within 45 minutes with some seconds to spare!

    My overall goal is to get the half marathon in at an hour and a half, so I'm right on pace....if I can just keep the same pace for another 6.5 miles I will get it!


    Burned about 1k Cal's overall
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  25. Your cardio endurance is amazing bro. As always your strength is crazy too. Keep killing it you madman!
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