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  1.  04-17-2012  06:00 PM
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    Cheat meals are good. It will rev up your metabolism.



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    What do u eat on your pizza JB?
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    Originally Posted by 808shredded View Post
    Cheat meals are good. It will rev up your metabolism.
    Yes it does but there was a study on the articles section that showed that having 1 cheat meal a week only slowed down the progress of the participants. However I've been reading a lot about the subject lately since it interests me and most of the articles I've read are in favor of having 1 cheat meal a week etc. This is from T Nation

    The issue that arises in any discussion of cheat days is that from a purely scientific or research based standpoint, the studies are conflicting and the conclusions that are most solid aren't always applicable.

    Essentially, the idea of using cheat days is to get leptin-depleted individuals to increase leptin levels, which will result in all the benefits listed above. That would be great, but the problem is that often those using cheat days simply aren't leptin-depleted; at least, not insofar as their metabolic rate is slowing to a significant degree.


    Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    What do u eat on your pizza JB?
    Bro, I eat the manliest pizzas ever I'm so fed up with veggies and salad because I eat them so much (even tho I really don't enjoy them lol) I always go crazy and put everything on the list that is meat LOL And I usually throw in some onions too haha
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    Originally Posted by Jonbero

    Yes it does but there was a study on the articles section that showed that having 1 cheat meal a week only slowed down the progress of the participants. However I've been reading a lot about the subject lately since it interests me and most of the articles I've read are in favor of having 1 cheat meal a week etc. This is from T Nation

    The issue that arises in any discussion of cheat days is that from a purely scientific or research based standpoint, the studies are conflicting and the conclusions that are most solid aren't always applicable.

    Essentially, the idea of using cheat days is to get leptin-depleted individuals to increase leptin levels, which will result in all the benefits listed above. That would be great, but the problem is that often those using cheat days simply aren't leptin-depleted; at least, not insofar as their metabolic rate is slowing to a significant degree.

    Bro, I eat the manliest pizzas ever I'm so fed up with veggies and salad because I eat them so much (even tho I really don't enjoy them lol) I always go crazy and put everything on the list that is meat LOL And I usually throw in some onions too haha
    Good deal, & T nation is a good sight.
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    I had to order more modern bcaa cus the fruit punch was finito. I take 20 grams every day so it goes pretty fast lol. I ordered the White Blue Raspberry flavor and it's much better IMO. Tastes very good!

    Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Good deal, & T nation is a good sight.
    T Nation is the balls, their articles are worth reading
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    Hey guys, its day 20 and feelin' good. I finished my hypertrophy chest workout 15 minutes ago, I did 20 minutes steady state cardio on a treadmill after my weight training. Cardio after weights is also a pretty debatable topic so feel free to state your opinions and create some discussion guys. I use my Polar heart rate monitor nearly every time I workout and I have noticed that my heart rate is slightly lower than usual when training, I'm wondering what this may indicate. Anyway, endurance and strength is still very high and I keep having awesome workouts. I also noticed today that aggression is still there haha. I lost my gym lock and I was really pissed, cursing myself and my stupid life LOL! I realised a bit after how immature and ****ing stupid it was but I couldn't just help my self in the moment... funny
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    I sweat more when I so cardio after weight training.

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    Sorry for not updating for a few days, I've been a bit busy and haven't had much time on the computer.

    I got my 2nd round of C20 and EP in the mail, huge thanks to USPLabs and PES.

    Its day 24 I belive, today was my upper body power day and I noticed strength is up. I was down 5 pounds at one point but now my weight is going up again, and it should be lean muscle mass. My definition is much better now than 4 weeks ago and I'm much more vascular, I can see veins in my arms that weren't there before.

    I'm excited to continue this stack for 4 more weeks, I wouldn't have wanted to stop now when I'm getting great results haha.
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    Originally Posted by Jonbero
    Sorry for not updating for a few days, I've been a bit busy and haven't had much time on the computer.

    I got my 2nd round of C20 and EP in the mail, huge thanks to USPLabs and PES.

    Its day 24 I belive, today was my upper body power day and I noticed strength is up. I was down 5 pounds at one point but now my weight is going up again, and it should be lean muscle mass. My definition is much better now than 4 weeks ago and I'm much more vascular, I can see veins in my arms that weren't there before.

    I'm excited to continue this stack for 4 more weeks, I wouldn't have wanted to stop now when I'm getting great results haha.
    Damn... Month gone buy lol.

    I need to talk to USP after my cycle see if I could get a 2nd bottle of c20 for PCT.
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    Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Damn... Month gone buy lol.

    I need to talk to USP after my cycle see if I could get a 2nd bottle of c20 for PCT.
    So fast the days go buy

    I imagine C20 + EP would be a nice addition to PCT
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    Looks like I'm staying home today...

    My legs are still a bit sore so I'm waiting until tomorrow

    I know guys, I'm weak
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    Glutes are still a bit sore, which is weird since I usually recover very fast, but I did do a killer legworkout last time so maybe that's a good sign.

    Anyway I didn't workout today, just played soccer, so nothing to report for today.
    I hated every minute of training, but I said, "Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion." -Muhammad Ali

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    Had an ''ok'' lower body power day today + I did my 10 minute steady state cardio on a treadmill postworkout. I felt a bit lethargic in the gym and I don't have any idea why. I hope its a 1 day thing only but if I keep feeling like this I think I will have to throw in some preworkout, I love Maximize Intense but I really want to try Craze. Libido is shot down too. I wonder if the EP is completely demolishing my estrogen.

    Also one funny thing I've noticed is that I chew A LOT of gum these days. It helps me keep my cravings in control so I guess its ok, I'd rather eat a 1/2 a pack of gum in 2 days than start eating donuts and reeses peanut butter brownies... man they're good.
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    Fuuuuuuuuuk! I've lately noticed that I'm experiencing some shoulder issues but it really came out in my hypertrophy chest workout today

    My right shoulder hurts when I do any type of chest workout, press, flyes, pushups... Someone please help me out. It really pisses me off because I can't go all out!
    I hated every minute of training, but I said, "Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion." -Muhammad Ali

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    Sorry for not updating a while.

    I broke my lower back in the gym (not literally but it hurts like a mother@$#%^!), I've been taking it easy for a week now and avoiding any lower body exercises but its really bothering my training and I think that if I don't stay away from the gym a while for now its only going to get worse so I decided I will take a 1 week break now. If its still painful next week I will go see a Dr.

    Sucks...
    I hated every minute of training, but I said, "Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion." -Muhammad Ali

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    hey you have been pushing hard for over a month when you feel your body start to tell you your sore and lethargic your cns is probably a little burnt out especially during a cut with stims when you come off it. so deload with 60 - 70% of the weight you were using for about 2 weeks still hitting it hard but actively recovering and the deload will help with the decreased energy. another strategy is to more effectively carb cycle if your noticing a decreases in energy have a high carb day about mid week or on your toughest workout and have a cheat day a few days later and im also noticing your killing the hit and cardio soccer swimming and rowing for 30 minutes plus ! tone it down man thats killing your stored glycogen so tone it down just a little and you will notice a better response from your body in the growth department. as far as soreness goes work through it , it doesn't indicate recovery on that the muscle has been worked so dont be afraid to power through a session or two with soreness your body will adapt. Now the shoulder ice it after workouts get some icey hot or bio freeze and remember to prehab shoulders they are the most unstable joint in the body and require more maintenance then a 16 year old cheerleader girlfriend. look up shoulder stability exercises , foam rolling , and massage. Now the erase pro ... it controls cortisol and blocks estrogen allowing testosterone to do work. so now your body is getting back to normal and your estro is normalizing so consider tapering down next time so the process runs smoother and the same with stim based fat burners this helps to avoid a crash and to promote a steady decline. Hope this helped man !
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    So I've been taking it easy for over a week now in the gym, training at about 50%. But my back is still pretty bad, I think I have to take another week off for recovery. Yesterday I was doing some box jumping and I hurt my back pretty bad... I think I will make an appointment for the Dr. I will drop the EP and C20 now because I don't want to waste them.
    I hated every minute of training, but I said, "Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion." -Muhammad Ali

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