Fumoney's log to better health for 2012

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I fully rec. Running it with an ai or an ai directly after if u bloat easily. I'm running it with erase right now and the results are much drier than when without

    Thanks. I plan on using it with Erase Pro in about 4-5 weeks. It's the curiosity that gets me. especially when it's sitting there unopened.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Thanks. I plan on using it with Erase Pro in about 4-5 weeks. It's the curiosity that gets me. especially when it's sitting there unopened.
    I hear ya lol. Thsts y I plan it all out months in advance so everything Is synergistic
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  3. Days 8

    Supplements:
    0 Erase Pro (none left)
    2 AIS Agmatine with lunch, 3 with dinner
    2 Oxyelite Pro prior to exercise, 2 Oxyelite Pro in the PM
    3 Lipotrophin PM prior to bedtime


    Diet:
    Calorie normal

    Exercise:
    Cardio Elliptical (1750 calories) no stopping at any point

    Machine Shoulder Press 11x8 (100, 160, 160, 160, 160, 160, 160, 160, 160, 180, 200 lbs)
    Machine Preacher Curls 5x8 (80 lbs)
    Machine Chest Flyes 1x10 (180 lbs)


    Comments:
    Had good day at work and went out with co-worker for lunch. No salad. I ate normal calories, but lot more carbs and not much protein. My body does not look that lean anymore and I look a little bloated. Gotta get back on the ball with my diet.

    Good bye Erase Pro. Until next time.

    I took all Agmatine with meals, so I only had OEP prior to workout. I had a great workout. I said I would try 160s and it was not bad at all. I finished all 160s in good form. I went up couple times to 180 and 200. Form on 180 was pretty clean, but 200 was not. I arched my back at rep 5 till finish. I think I will try 170s next time. Preacher curls were clean. I like to finish off biceps with heavy chest flyes with elbows but. Really felt it in my biceps. I did not have great pumps but I had great energy and strength. I pushed to the limit on cardio and hit 1750 calories in about 102 minutes. This was probably due to feeling guilty about lunch, but if I did not have the energy there is no way I could have stayed on that long. I feel drained and I love it !

  4. Holy hell on the calories... And 4 oep??? Label says do Not exceed 3 , bad boy! Haha.. No adverse effects?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Holy hell on the calories... And 4 oep??? Label says do Not exceed 3 , bad boy! Haha.. No adverse effects?
    Yeah, It was amazing. I felt like I could go for hours. My legs started to get tired around 70-75 min mark. The guilt from yesterday and today made me want to knock at least 0.5 lb off today, so I kept going until I hit 1750. Remember, I am around 242 lbs, so the calorie counter goes faster for me than someone who is lighter.

    So hungry right now. I am going to try to sleep it off. Following your lead on IF to switch things up a bit. You haven't steered me wrong yet. Mine will be modified to 16 hours. That's 9 hours from now.

    As for OEP, the effect has faded a bit. I did not sweat much during cardio. I am sure I am not dosing it correctly, but you know why I need to modify. (That sweat thing....although I have npt felt the heat recently)

    Only have 2 more days worth anyway at 4 pills per day. No side effects so far.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Yeah, It was amazing. I felt like I could go for hours. My legs started to get tired around 70-75 min mark. The guilt from yesterday and today made me want to knock at least 0.5 lb off today, so I kept going until I hit 1750. Remember, I am around 242 lbs, so the calorie counter goes faster for me than someone who is lighter.

    So hungry right now. I am going to try to sleep it off. Following your lead on IF to switch things up a bit. You haven't steered me wrong yet. Mine will be modified to 16 hours. That's 9 hours from now.

    As for OEP, the effect has faded a bit. I did not sweat much during cardio. I am sure I am not dosing it correctly, but you know why I need to modify. (That sweat thing....although I have npt felt the heat recently)

    Only have 2 more days worth anyway at 4 pills per day. No side effects so far.
    Sounds good. Yea I just had my cheat meal but I did 52 minutes cardio today bit it equaled 771 cals 5.03 miles. I got caught up after n couldn't have any food.. Only aminos for 4 hours after Thr cardio. I lost 4 pounds.... Ridiculous. I was 160 yesterday n 156 when I weighed myself AFTER dinner. But the cheat should push thst back to 160.

  7. Quick update following 4 OEP dosing from yesterday - 2 around 5 PM before gym and 2 late evening around 10 PM.

    I was able to fall asleep right away and woke up refreshed as usual. For those who have not read through the log, I am normally a deep sleeper and with addition of Lipo PM, I am able to sleep without issues even after taking stims or drinking coffee late at night.

    Will dose 4 today and tomorrow and start Fat Free on Sunday.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    Quick update following 4 OEP dosing from yesterday - 2 around 5 PM before gym and 2 late evening around 10 PM.

    I was able to fall asleep right away and woke up refreshed as usual. For those who have not read through the log, I am normally a deep sleeper and with addition of Lipo PM, I am able to sleep without issues even after taking stims or drinking coffee late at night.

    Will dose 4 today and tomorrow and start Fat Free on Sunday.
    Looking forward to hearing all about the fat free

  9. Day 9 (3/9)

    Supplements:
    0 Erase Pro (none left)
    2 AIS Agmatine with lunch, 2 with dinner, 1 prior to workout
    2 Oxyelite Pro in the AM, 2 Oxyelite Pro prior to exercise
    3 Lipotrophin PM prior to bedtime


    Diet:
    Calorie deficit

    Exercise:
    Cardio Elliptical (1330 calories)


    Comments:
    Had a good sweat going during cardio today. I did cardio after dinner. I was full of energy, but my legs were getting weak around 30 minute mark. I pushed on and luckily finished it at the same pace.

    I feel leaner and lighter, but when I look in the mirror I no longer have the dry look. I have learned to accept it. Eventually I will get it with or without Erase Pro if I continue to work hard. All my clothes are loose and I do feel great. Tomorrow is my scheduled weigh in day. From tomorrow, I have 3 more weeks to reach my goal of 235 lbs.

    IF is tough. I am so hungry right now. I hope to fall asleep soon. I went to the supermarket to pick up some toiletries and had to fight the urges to pick up anything and everything. Cookies, candy, salami, chicken wings, prociutto,...etc.

    Onto tomorrow.

  10. Day 10

    Weight: 237.4 lbs

    Comments to follow later today.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  11. Hey man the urges to eat r definitely tough when u first start off and even once ur used to it they can get crazy bad during intranet training. Some tips::

    Sugar free gum (I swear by stride spark bc it has b vitamins.. Helps amazingly) I chew prob 2-3 pieces a day...

    Green tea when I am hungry at night (after dinner) kills cravings and makes u pee!

    Incorporate cheat meals! Once every week or two (every two until u reach target weight) you earn it and it keeps u honest during the week bc u know u get to splurge later

    Greek yogurt plain non fat mixed with instant jello pudding mix (sugar/fat free) tastes like cake frosting and satisfies cravings unstably! I have one almost every night.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Hey man the urges to eat r definitely tough when u first start off and even once ur used to it they can get crazy bad during intranet training. Some tips::

    Sugar free gum (I swear by stride spark bc it has b vitamins.. Helps amazingly) I chew prob 2-3 pieces a day...

    Green tea when I am hungry at night (after dinner) kills cravings and makes u pee!

    Incorporate cheat meals! Once every week or two (every two until u reach target weight) you earn it and it keeps u honest during the week bc u know u get to splurge later

    Greek yogurt plain non fat mixed with instant jello pudding mix (sugar/fat free) tastes like cake frosting and satisfies cravings unstably! I have one almost every night.
    Good stuff as always. I already incorporate cheat meals, so I don't plan on stopping that anytime soon.

    However, I will definitely try the gum and greek yogurt/sugar and fat free pudding mix thing.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Good stuff as always. I already incorporate cheat meals, so I don't plan on stopping that anytime soon.

    However, I will definitely try the gum and greek yogurt/sugar and fat free pudding mix thing.
    Yea just good ways to curb cravings .. Which will subside sooner or later

  14. Day 10

    Weight: 237.4 lbs (-9.4 lbs this log, -26.6 lbs since 1/7/2012)

    Supplements:
    0 Erase Pro (none left)
    2 AIS Agmatine with lunch, 2 prior to workout, 2 with dinner,
    2 Oxyelite Pro in the AM, 2 Oxyelite Pro prior to exercise (That's it. No more remaining)
    3 Lipotrophin PM prior to bedtime


    Diet:
    Calorie normal

    Exercise:
    Front Pulldowns 12x8 (60, 120, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 110, 110, 110, 110 lbs)
    Hammer Strength Iso High Rows 5x8 (180 lbs)
    Front straight arm pulldown 5x8 (55 lbs)
    Machine Shoulder Press 3x8 (80, 200, 200 lbs)
    Machine Chest Fly 1x8 (200 lbs)


    Comments:
    Great night of sleep. Had a good sweat going again today at the gym. Felt strong on all lifts. Decent pumps, but not spectacular.

    Ate a cheat meal today. Grilled pork chops (bone-in), mash potatoes, stuffing, garlic broccoli and a nice strong martini. Ate a little later today, so IF will last till 1 PM (daylight savings jump forward).

    I weighed in today. I was very happy with what I saw. I am not going to get too excited, but 2 straight weeks of great results at a pace higher than first 2 months. I am only 2.4 lbs from my first target and I still have 21 days remaining to hit it. I don't have the words other than I have to give thanks and continue to work hard and not let up. I am trying to stay grounded because there is no way I can stay on this pace, can I ???

    Starting App Nut Fat Free tomorrow in place of OEP. I am done with my bottle of OEP and I must say, I am happy with what it has provided me as part of this stack.

    Onto tomorrow. Let's get this !

  15. Day 11

    Supplements:
    2 AIS Agmatine with lunch, 2 prior to workout, 2 with dinner,
    2 Fat Free in the AM, 1 Fat Free in the PM
    3 Lipotrophin PM prior to bedtime


    Diet:
    Calorie normal

    Exercise:
    Cardio Run/Walk on track 2 miles (220 run, 220 walk and repeat 8 times)

    Flat Bench Press 9x8 (90, 180, 230, 270, 270, 270, 270, 270, 270 lbs)
    Flat Bench Press 1x4 (320 lbs)
    Flat Bench Press 1x6 (180 lbs)
    Dumbbell Hammer Curls 6x8 (30 lb dumbells)
    Dumbbell Concentration Curls 4x8 (30 lb dumbbells)
    Machine Chest Flyes 5x8 (180, 180, 180, 160, 160 lbs)
    Hammer Strength Incline Chest Press 4x8 (180 lbs)


    Comments:
    I had a great lifting day. I lifted until my arms gave out. I did not get the last 320 lbs, but I am OK with that. My arms were jelly and I know I gave it my all. I ran on track...well ran and walked.....for the first time in long time. It was very windy and chilly, so it was not easy. It was however productive. My back and lats have some DOMS. I will have to repeat my back workout again. I love DOMS. I know I have worked my muscles and it is a good feedback mechanism.

    I took Fat Free for the first time today. I did not feel like eating after taking Fat Free. I did eat on normal schedule though. If this is what's to come, it should really help during weekdays.

    My body is harder and my muscles are full. However, I do not have the dry cut look anymore. I think I am holding water a bit. As stated earlier, I can live with this until I get to a certain weight. Then I will worry about looking more cut.

    I have had headaches all day. I am not going to attribute it to anything unless, it becomes chronic. I probably did not drink enough water.

    Onto tomorrow.

  16. Slept for 7 hours, but I have serious lethargy right now. This is a first time in a long time that I have felt like this. I feel tired and sleepy. I don't feel like eating and I am not hungry.

    I did take an ibuprophen last night right before bed because I had headaches.

    Not sure if this is due to interactions with supps or if it is Fat Free. I will try not to speculate and hope this passes.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    Slept for 7 hours, but I have serious lethargy right now. This is a first time in a long time that I have felt like this. I feel tired and sleepy. I don't feel like eating and I am not hungry.

    I did take an ibuprophen last night right before bed because I had headaches.

    Not sure if this is due to interactions with supps or if it is Fat Free. I will try not to speculate and hope this passes.
    I've read that ibu interferes with receptors in the brain that r responsible for sleep and also muscle recovery , actually any NSAID does..

  18. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza

    I've read that ibu interferes with receptors in the brain that r responsible for sleep and also muscle recovery , actually any NSAID does..
    Thanks man. I've taken it at night before, but have not felt like this the next day. Especially disappointing since I've had a good run of restful sleep regardless of number of hours I slept.

    The rest of the afternoon is going to be tough.

    I am feeling hungry now. Hope that is a good sign.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  19. Holy crap ! This should not be happening. I can't keep my eyes open. Damn it.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  20. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    Holy crap ! This should not be happening. I can't keep my eyes open. Damn it.
    Lol if it's that bad just chug a pot of coffee n deal w the crash later haha

  21. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Lol if it's that bad just chug a pot of coffee n deal w the crash later haha
    Been drinking coffee as much as possible today.

    Sleep is something I never have issues with. Especially when I slept 7 hours straight and took Lipo PM night before. That is what's making this difficult to deal with. Something is causing it and I can't figure out what. I don't want to point fingers at one thing. It could be a combination of many things I guess.

  22. Day 12

    Supplements:
    2 AIS Agmatine with lunch, 2 with dinner (Starting to run low. Hope the new shipment comes in soon.)
    2 Fat Free in the AM, 1 Fat Free in the PM
    3 Lipotrophin PM prior to bedtime


    Diet:
    Calorie deficit

    Exercise:
    Cardio Elliptical (1211 calories)
    Volleyball for 45 minutes


    Comments:
    As you can see from my earlier posts, I had a tough day energy wise and I hate to fight from dozing off. I was also fighting a nagging headache from yesterday. Not sure what caused it. I came home and laid down for 2 hours. Of the 2 hours, I took a 1 hour nap. When I woke up, the headache was gone and I had more energy. I was able to put in a good cardio session. I also played a bit of volleyball. Good group of people. It was fun, although my legs were shot from elliptical.

    My quads are sore from running yesterday. It only tells me that even with all the cardio work, I am not putting in enough leg work. I will have to incorporate that in somehow. I was blessed good genetics for legs and I never really had to work it. I guess age is catching up with genetics.

    I can definitely see that I am carrying extra water. I also think I have also gained a little bit of weight. I am hoping it is recomp. My upper body looks much bigger. Prob due to heavier lifting. It could be my cortisol level rising after stopping Erase Pro. It could also be homeostasis. My body saying, OK lets pause for a bit. I need to continue doing what I am doing and not get disappointed if I don't lose anything this week.

    19 days to first target. Need to try to not get over confident. Maintain and lose and I should hit my target even with my body fighting back.

    One thought, I have been @ 237 lbs for about 5 years in the early 2000s. Like stocks, maybe this is my resistance and it might take a lot more work to break through psychologically and physically.

    Onto tomorrow.

  23. Headache gone, but still feel lethargic.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney
    Headache gone, but still feel lethargic.
    Wait I figures it out. You were taking just oep and now just fat free correct?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza

    Wait I figures it out. You were taking just oep and now just fat free correct?
    Yep, come on Cheda rack your brain !
    FYI - I am also taking Lipo PM. (during end of OEP run and now start of Fat Free run)
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  26. Quote Originally Posted by fumoney

    Yep, come on Cheda rack your brain !
    FYI - I am also taking Lipo PM. (during end of OEP run and now start of Fat Free run)
    From nutraplanet write up

    Provides great energy and a pronounced "feel good" effect without an overreliance on heavy stimulants
    Doesn't stop "working" (or feeling like its working) within a matter of days or weeks.

    Most fat burners are thinly-disguised energy pills - they pump you full of adrenaline, and then quit working correctly after a few weeks.

    Basically the oep at 3-4 caps a day is super stim/caffeine... Fat free is virtually "stim free" it contains mild stims that are like a 2 on scale of 10, with oep being a 9-10.. I tried going from oep to a similar product like far free... I didn't last a day, by 5 pm I had a horrific headache and could barely move, I popped 2 oep n 30 mins later felt like new.. If Thr headaches r gone, I say stick with it and your energy levels will probably soonfollow..

  27. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza

    From nutraplanet write up

    Provides great energy and a pronounced "feel good" effect without an overreliance on heavy stimulants
    Doesn't stop "working" (or feeling like its working) within a matter of days or weeks.

    Most fat burners are thinly-disguised energy pills - they pump you full of adrenaline, and then quit working correctly after a few weeks.

    Basically the oep at 3-4 caps a day is super stim/caffeine... Fat free is virtually "stim free" it contains mild stims that are like a 2 on scale of 10, with oep being a 9-10.. I tried going from oep to a similar product like far free... I didn't last a day, by 5 pm I had a horrific headache and could barely move, I popped 2 oep n 30 mins later felt like new.. If Thr headaches r gone, I say stick with it and your energy levels will probably soonfollow..
    Bingo !
    This is it. Thanks !
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  28. I am going to take Prometheus Rising for 5 days. While I am not looking to gain any size, high T is always good. Also, I am not convinced my shipment will arrive on time and I am running low in Agmatine. Will take 2 Agmatine lunch time and full dose of Prometheus prior to workout. Will try to not eat after lunch, so I am taking Prometheus on empty stomach. Again, all I am concerned about is getting my Agmatine dose in.
    I started a new log at:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/228939-fumoney-takes-ironmag.html

  29. Day 13 (3/13)

    Supplements:
    2 AIS Agmatine with lunch
    6 Prometheus Rising in the PM
    2 Fat Free in the AM, 1 Fat Free in the PM
    3 Lipotrophin PM prior to bedtime


    Diet:
    Calorie deficit

    Exercise:
    None


    Comments:
    Nothing of note other than getting over stim withdrawal (headaches and lethargy) and using Prometheus in place of Agmatine until my shipment arrive. I peaked at my weight and my weight is actually up several pounds for the first time in weeks. My upper body is bigger compared to start and I think its recomp. Will kill cardio rest of week to see if I can get back down to 237 or so this week. (by Saturday)

    I will see how the first week of Prometheus goes and may stay on it. No one is more schizophrenic than me when it comes to supplements I guess.

    When Fat free run is over, I hope to be at around 225 or so. I am staying on Agmatine. I will run 1 more bottle of Lipotrophin PM. I will also finish off with Erase Pro. When Erase Pro run is over (end of April), I hope to be under 220. If needed, some X-pel to get some water out for summer. Then spend the remaining 8 months this year and try to get under 200. (Hopefully without supplements. (Other than Agmatine)

    Maybe Fat Free will surprise me and get me there faster ????

    We shall see.

    I will be living on Quest bars for a while for breakfast. Loved the Brownie and vanilla almond and cinnamon roll. Getting coconut cashew, apple pie and peanut butter supreme. Nothing crazy. One bar per day. I don't think I can handle more than 19gm of fiber per serving.

    Love this stuff.

  30. Day 14

    Supplements:
    2 AIS Agmatine with lunch
    6 Prometheus Rising in the PM
    2 Fat Free in the AM, 1 Fat Free in the PM
    3 Lipotrophin PM prior to bedtime


    Diet:
    Calorie deficit

    Exercise:
    Machine Shoulder Press 1x8 (80 lbs)
    Machine Shoulder Press 9x8 (170, 170, 170, 170, 170, 170, 180, 190, 200 lbs)
    Machine Shoulder Press 2x10 (160 lbs)
    Machine Lateral Raise 1x8 (60 lbs)
    Machine Lateral Raise 9x8 (70 lbs)
    Pulldown Behind Neck 10x8 (60 lbs) To stretch out shoulders)


    Comments:
    Where to start....where to start. Diet was on point. Strength up during lifting (160s last time, 170s today). Muscle endurance was excellent. Muscle pump was excellent. Energy was great and I had a bit of sweat going during lifting.

    I look in the mirror. I look like I have bowling balls for shoulders, biceps are full, triceps are cut, and chest looks massive. Why am I not happy ? I look below my lower chest and my belly looks bigger and I look like I am carrying a pool of water. I look bloated and heavy, so I weighed myself and confirmed it. I am up 4 lbs this week.

    Cheda warned me about Prometheus. I took a chance because`I wanted the Agmatine. If the water retention was going to be like when I took AT2, I was going to be OK with it. However, this change in appearance as significant. This is the look I had when I used to take PH. That is no longer my goal. I don't want to get bigger. I am looking to cut down on weight - muscle or not. Carrying additional weight will not be good for softball as I will put significant pressure on my legs.

    OK, to be fair to Prometheus, it did what it was supposed to. Make me stronger, gave me pumps and made me look bigger. I don't doubt some of this is placebo effect. Well, after 2 days, I am done with this supp. I will shelve it for future use when I am much lighter. With season only 2 1/2 weeks away, I cannot lose the progress I have made.

    Tracking says AI sports Agmatine will arrive tomorrow. Just in time.
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