My Ursol-xt gone hurt y'all lets seeQ
- 02-25-2012, 12:55 PM
My Ursol-xt gone hurt y'all lets seeQ
5'10 195 lbs, BF approx 15%. I'm 33 yrs old, been addicted to lifting and dieting for +10 years. I like rap music, action comedies and long walks on the beach. Dealt with some major injuries over the years; broken neck in 01 broken arm in 09. Can't really lift for power any more so its all muscle building and aesthetic oriented.
Will be carb cycling. 75-175g carbs during the week. protein will also be low during the week, less then 100g. I know alot of people may advise against that but I know my body and I can't drop fat taking +200g protein per day. Fats will be around 75-100g. Friday and Sat I carb up and eat how I want with in reason.
Staples are multi, creatine, oil blend, and whey. I use caffeine pills and 1,3 caps for energy. I will also use SuperSize and ErgoPump V1 pre-workout.
And the Ursol-xt per the company
Ultimate Recomposition Agent!
- Ultimate Recomposition Agent
- Inhibits Myostatin
- Lean Mass Builder
- Powerful Cutting Agent
- Fat Burner
Ursolic Acid is a non hormonal acid found in plants that has been shown initially to stop muscle atrophy, induce muscle growth and burn fat at a proportional rate to the concurring muscle growth. As if that weren't enough - there is evidence to suggest Ursolic Acid also can inhibit myostatin to a certain degree.
Forskolin is the active herb in coleus forskohlii. It is amazing because it is a non-hormonal, plant-derived, vasodilating fat burner shown also to produce anabolic activity. It works by activating the adenylate cyclase enzyme - which activates the hormone sensitive lipoprotein lipase - which in turn breaks down fat stored in cells and converts it to fuel.
Myostatin is a negative regulator of muscle mass. If you can inhibit myostatin in skeletal muscle - your muscles will grow. In technical terms, myostatin is a secreted TGF beta protein family member that inhibits muscle differentiation and growth. Myostatin is produced primarily in the skeletal muscle cells.
Ursol-XT works with a unique muscle building & fat burning formula. Ursol-XT first focuses on utilizing two unique and quite different muscle building pathways: blocking muscle atrophy and inhibiting myostatin. The suppression of these can allow for more muscle growth. A powerful recomp agent wouldn't be complete without the powerful fat burning properties Ursolic Acid and Forskolin possess. Fat burning coincides with muscle growth through Ursolic Acid and Forskolin releases fat stored in cells by breaking them down for fuel. No other recomp product on the market delivers the unique formula Ursol-XT does to attack muscle growth and fat burning through such potent pathways.
More information about Myostatin and TGF-B1
Myostatin inhibition is the new “hot” thing on the bodybuilding block. This is because researchers found that myostatin is a negative regulator of muscle mass. In other words, inhibit myostatin in skeletal muscle, and watch your muscles grow. Unfortunately most of the myostatin research is limited to hard to find, and often expensive drugs. In addition the quality provided by many “research chemical labs” is questionable at best. So where does that leave us? We need something natural, something that inhibits myostatin, or at least has the potential to decrease myostatin. Does that even exist?
A major player in skeletal muscle fibrosis is transforming growth factor-b1 or TGF-ß1. In fact TGF-ß1 is elevated in injured muscle and those suffering from muscular dystrophy. An often cited study was looking at skeletal muscle injury and therapy methods (1). Using a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory (NSAID) decreases regeneration, and increases fibrosis. Fibrosis in skeletal muscle is essentially connective tissue that repairs the area, but also directly competes with muscle regeneration. In other words if you suffer from an acute muscle injury, your body will repair the area, but it may not be as strong as it once was simply because fibrous tissue is interfering with high quality muscle tissue regeneration.
The same study we referenced earlier on the repair of skeletal muscle injury also wanted to gain a better understanding of the relation of myostatin to TGF-ß1. Specifically to see if myostatin played a role in skeletal muscle fibrosis as previous research had indicated may be true. The researchers studied many things, but one part of the study specifically compared normal mice and myostatin knockout mice. They purposely injured the mice by lacerating the muscle, and then stained the fibrous connective tissue of each animal group. Below is a photo of the difference in tissue quality. What you will notice is far less fibrotic tissue (blue stain) in the myostatin deficient mice (right) than in normal mice (left):
They found that there was about 4% less fibrous tissue at both 2 weeks from injury as well as 4 weeks out from injury. Previous research had already shown that TGF-ß1 plays a role in skeletal muscle fibrosis, and this literally paints a picture that shows myostatin also has a role in this process. They then performed eight different in vitro tests to determine the relationship of TGF-B1 and myostatin. They essentially found that each one promoted the action of the other.
A previously known TGF-ß1 inhibitor was then introduced to the study. They wanted to see if this TGF-ß1 inhibitor known as decorin, would also inhibit or decrease myostatin fibroblast (fibrosis) proliferation, or growth. They found that decorin significantly decreased the effect of myostatin on fibroblast growth. To go a step further, they tested it in mouse muscle cells to see if it could reduce the effect myostatin has on cell growth (or muscle hypertrophy). And again they found that decorin inhibited the effect of myostatin in muscle cells, creating larger muscle cells (myoblast differentiation). The authors go on to also find that decorin stimulates follistatin the popular myostatin inhibitor.
In conclusion the authors made the following statement:
In summary, our results suggest the following:
(i) MSTN stimulates the formation of fibrosis in skeletal muscle after injury,
(ii) TGF-ß1 and MSTN up-regulate the expression level of each other, and
(iii) DCN is capable of inhibiting MSTN activity as it does for TGF-ß1
The second finding is highlighted above for an important reason. If a natural TGF-ß1 inhibitor were to exist, we could likely inhibit myostatin to some degree. In return, build bigger muscles. Well we happen to be in luck. ForeRunner Labs has released a product to their fans known as Ursol-XT. Ursol-XT contains a modified compound known as Ursolic Acid. Ursolic Acid is also a potent TGF-ß1 antagonist (2). Meaning it prohibits TGF-ß1 from binding to its receptor. The research has yet to test Ursolic Acid’s direct impact on myostatin, but as we previously illustrated decreasing TGF-ß1, can inhibit myostatin to some degree. (3)
Now this effect may not be as powerful as injecting follistatin itself, but even the results of this practice have led to questionable results. More likely because of the stability and quality of the grey market chemical, that is currently available to bodybuilders. Because of this, the information discussed suggests that Ursol-XT will be the best legal option to decrease myostatin available to bodybuilders today.
Serving Size: 4 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving
Ursolic Acid 25%
Hydroxypropyl-Beta-Cyclodextrin Piperine Coleaus Forskolin 1280mg
I have 2 bottles and I'm already a week in. Been taking with it fat. I am not really interested in the myostatin inhibition. I don't think this is possible but I can't test for it anyway. I am looking for recomp and muscle preservation assistence. I have already been dieting for some weeks. Dropping 5 lbs already.
Here are the measurements I will track:
Weight- 194 lbs
Stomach- 36.5" (at navel)
37.25" (biggest part of my stomach includes back fat)
Right Bicep- 15"
I'm really hoping that even on cal restriction I can avoid dropping below 190. I yoyo between 190-210 though the years. I'd love to get lean and stay lean. No more yoyo. Open to all questions and suggestions. When I get back from the gym planning to post pics and first week results.
edit: typo Q at the end of the title. How can I fix that?
- 02-25-2012, 03:41 PM
I started at recommended dose, 4 caps a day. The first 2 days I had some legit GI distress but couldn't pinpoint the source. It was gone after a few days so I don't think it was ever the Ursol. By day 4 or 5 I noticed a decent appetite suppresion. I've seen people go both ways on this. Some get hungry some do the opposite. Seem to have a good fulness in my muscles the last few days, but that is such a hard thing to really quantify.
Here are my starting pics. Haha don't know why they are sideways. I'm really hoping to reduce my little back fat love handles. (Tat is far from finished, going to get work on it very soon)
Starting week 2 I have increased the dose to 6 caps over 3 servings. At week 3 I may go up to 8. It's unfortunate that due to the prop blend I don't know exactly how much UA is in there but there are other ingrediants at play.
- 02-25-2012, 03:55 PM
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02-29-2012, 09:02 AM
Weight dipped under 192 so thats good and bad. Good I'm still losing, but I don't want to lose too much weight. Going to bump up to 8 caps now which will be double the rec dose.
- Appetite suppression is still good
- Muscles feel full, but clothes are getting big so it kinda pulls my mind in 2 directions
- Losing weight
So this is about as lean as I've been since college (6 yrs). If I am able to keep dropping BF and actually see some abs I will be very very happy. I will update weight and measurements at the 2 week mark on Friday.
03-05-2012, 12:18 PM
Weight is maintaining around 195. First measurements were taken on the 20th so tomorrow will actually be 2 weeks. Diet and training have been consistent. I'm expecting it to "kick in" now at the the 2 week mark, even though it could take longer. I am confident my waist/stomach has gotten smaller. Moved a belt hole on one of my belts.
03-08-2012, 10:14 AM
Weight- 194 lbs +/- 1-2 lbs
Waist- 35.25" -.5
Stomach- 35.75" (at navel) -.75
Chest- 41" +.25
Right Bicep- 15" (no change)
Still early I guess. Things are looking good
03-15-2012, 06:27 PM
Shirts are getting tighter (one fav I can't really wear to work anymore) and pants are getting loose. almost too loose.
04-08-2012, 02:00 AM
04-14-2012, 12:27 PM
My apologies to Forerunner for not finishing this. It seemed to generate zero interest. I was pleased with my results, though not overwhelming. I kept muscle mass while losing fat with diet pretty much in check. I can confirm the general consensus that ursol seems to have potential benefits that can be seen over time with large enough doses. High dose + long run = win.
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