LOG: Athletix+PES Lean Bulk!

[chedapalooza]

Hey and thanks for stopping by. I'd like to thank judgementday, packers6211, and athletix for supplying me some great products; Division1 and Titanium XL. For the month of march, I will be stacking these bad boys with some of my own Erase, daa, and shift. Other supps will be noted in the log as well.

<pics/labels to come once delivered>

As of today, I have my daa, titanium, erase, and shift on hand. I am waiting for the D1 to be shipped to me once it is stocked with Athletix. The log will run for the duration of the products, a full 30 days for each!

what I need to know from any followers is:
- what do you want to know about these products?
-what would you like me, as the logger, to look out for, make note of, etc?

I don't want to waste my time or anyone else's recording pointless or uninteresting or unhelpful information. AM is a great resource for so many, and I'm hoping this log can add to the abundance of information on this forum.

So please let me know what YOU would like to see from this log and I will do my best to record it!

[chedapalooza]

About me

Age-23

Height- 5'7"

Start Weight- (will record March 1) 158 as of 2/25/12

Target end weight- 165-170 (never worry about the scale, it's relatively meaningless IMO)

BF%-do not measure, but upper abs and serratus visible, also carrying some water

Body type- skinny-fat ecto (naturally high estrogen and cortisol levels, recent blood results show total test at 468, free test at 73.5 shgb at 33.
Possible bloodwork for post log update.

***pre log pics page 6***

List of supps for this log:
Titanium xl- 4 caps daily
Division 1- 4 caps daily
Prometheus rising (daa, agmatine, coleus, r ala)
Erase- 2 for first week, 3 weeks 2-3, taper week 4
Shift-3 caps daily
Slin sane (first time using) normally anabolic pump or n2s 2-3 caps daily
Tta500-1000mg daily
Acetyl l carnitine -1500mg daily
L tyrosine-1000mg daily
Multi
Extra zinc-30mg daily
Extra calcium and magnesium- 590/450
5htp+valerian for sleep 100mg at bed
Eviscerate on cardio only days
Big blend protein by betancourt

The log will focus mostly on the MAIN supps from PES and athletix, but I would be happy to answer any other questions regarding the others.

[chedapalooza]

Training and diet:

Training routine will be a direct/indirect 3 day split from x rep mass building book by Steve Holman and Jon Lawson. It is my first full x rep routine and I have made minor adjustments to it knowing what works and what doesn't for my body. It is a fairly simple mass building routine, no specialization really, although I try to keep a wide v taper back, as it helps create illusion of a smaller waist and better symmetry (something all skinny fat ectos should strive for). I will be honest, I peaked for a cruise in December, and it has been hard to regain the size and definition I had after toning it down for a little break. Training routines will be posted on daily updates. Extra Cardio will be done on off days and weekends SHOULD be off. Maybe see an extra cardio day on the weekend.
I can honestly say I DO NOT miss a training day. I will skip class or call out of work if it will keep me from training. F IT!

Diet:

I do not log macros any more; I haven't for some time. I got very caught up and obsessive about it and it wasn't a healthy thing to do mentally. Now that I know what works for my body, I just go with what I know and what I feel like. It is mostly a low carb diet, following lean gains, so 2 large meals+aminos and shakes. High protein and high HEALTHY fats. I will do a carb up day/cheat day once every 1-3 weeks depending on how I feel/look. Flexibility is key for long term success IMO.

I think this covers the basics so I will hopefully hear from some followers about what you would like to see out of this log! It will be a go on THURSDAY MARCH 1, 2012!

I will be starting my erase this Saturday at 2 caps a day(water retention from a natty t booster I am finishing) Then upping the dose once i start the other products.

[FlawedGrunt]

SUBBED!

Good luck bro!

PS - 5-HTP didn't make me sleep through the night but it sure as hell made me sleep 20 times better... still woke up like 4 times to piss but then fell back asleep ASAP... i have really bad problems with waking up in the middle of the night and getting like anxiety and laying awake for hours. I hope the 5-HTP will continue to provide me with results like this... if so it will be a keeper

[chedapalooza]

SUBBED!

Good luck bro!

PS - 5-HTP didn't make me sleep through the night but it sure as hell made me sleep 20 times better... still woke up like 4 times to piss but then fell back asleep ASAP... i have really bad problems with waking up in the middle of the night and getting like anxiety and laying awake for hours. I hope the 5-HTP will continue to provide me with results like this... if so it will be a keeper

Oooh yea sounds like me. I can't remember the last time I slept straight through the night. Literally not since i was a teenager or passed out drunk lol which I don't do anymore. I actually use tyrosine, Sam e, and 5htp as a natural sub for anti depressants which I was on from 17-21. I stopped cold turkey (bad idea) but once I adjusted after about 6 months, I felt like myself again after 4 looong years, those products help with serotonin and dopamine and norepinephrine release in the brain.

[FlawedGrunt]

Oooh yea sounds like me. I can't remember the last time I slept straight through the night. Literally not since i was a teenager or passed out drunk lol which I don't do anymore. I actually use tyrosine, Sam e, and 5htp as a natural sub for anti depressants which I was on from 17-21. I stopped cold turkey (bad idea) but once I adjusted after about 6 months, I felt like myself again after 4 looong years, those products help with serotonin and dopamine and norepinephrine release in the brain.

Ive seen people go cold turkey off SSRI's it can be a nasty thing to go through thats for sure. My girlfriend takes SSRI's and before her I never believed in depression really, but when she missed them for a few weeks I could tell immedietly how things changed... now I will always believe there as definitely individuals that need them. My issue with anti depressents was and still is to a extent that doctors perscribe things before they completely diagnose, Im not a fan of them just handing them out so easy. Especially in young children... same thing wiht ADHD meds. They tried to put me on them when I was like 7 and my mom was like "hell no, hes a fxcking little boy... he's hyper... what do you expect?!"... so i don't like the starting people on meds when they are young thing... unless they need them... otherwise it kind of seems like a good way start a dependence on meds...

whoa sorry about the rant! Back to topic! Thats awesome that works for you so well! I bet its a good feeling!

I don't think I have too many issues other than my sleep anxiety and waking up and laying awake all night but even my gf said that maybe starting the 5-htp i will see improvements all around other than just sleep. I've definitely had these sleep issues ever since finishing up in the Marines.

Would you suggest I just take the 100mg before bed.. its the 12 hour time release... because Im thinking about taking one in the morning... but not sure if I should if I don't really need it? But I do kind of want to see if it would make any other positive changes for me... opinions bro?

[hvactech]

im interested in the sides, overall feeling...i get random headaches with m1db.

[fumoney]

I've looked into Athletix before, so I am interested in how the stack works out for you. I would be interested in any side effects you experience and also effectiveness of the stack Week 1 vs Week 4.


Subscribed !

[chedapalooza]

Ive seen people go cold turkey off SSRI's it can be a nasty thing to go through thats for sure. My girlfriend takes SSRI's and before her I never believed in depression really, but when she missed them for a few weeks I could tell immedietly how things changed... now I will always believe there as definitely individuals that need them. My issue with anti depressents was and still is to a extent that doctors perscribe things before they completely diagnose, Im not a fan of them just handing them out so easy. Especially in young children... same thing wiht ADHD meds. They tried to put me on them when I was like 7 and my mom was like "hell no, hes a fxcking little boy... he's hyper... what do you expect?!"... so i don't like the starting people on meds when they are young thing... unless they need them... otherwise it kind of seems like a good way start a dependence on meds...

whoa sorry about the rant! Back to topic! Thats awesome that works for you so well! I bet its a good feeling!

I don't think I have too many issues other than my sleep anxiety and waking up and laying awake all night but even my gf said that maybe starting the 5-htp i will see improvements all around other than just sleep. I've definitely had these sleep issues ever since finishing up in the Marines.

Would you suggest I just take the 100mg before bed.. its the 12 hour time release... because Im thinking about taking one in the morning... but not sure if I should if I don't really need it? But I do kind of want to see if it would make any other positive changes for me... opinions bro?

No worries on the rant, I agree.

So that would be 200mg daily? I feel like that's a bit much IMO.. I do one cap at bed time (20/30min prior) it has 100mg 5htp and I forget how much valerian bc I cracked the bottle n tossed it out, so I don't have the label. The valerian is truly what helps w the sleep. Some ppl find 5htp mKes them groggy, but not me.. Alone, it wouldn't help me sleep at all honestly, I just take it at night bc it's with the valerian. If you wanted to get a 50mg capsule, you could do 50 am n 50 at bed.. Sounds like ur best bet to me

[chedapalooza]

I've looked into Athletix before, so I am interested in how the stack works out for you. I would be interested in any side effects you experience and also effectiveness of the stack Week 1 vs Week 4.

Subscribed !

im interested in the sides, overall feeling...i get random headaches with m1db.

Thanks guys will definitely keep track n include in final review As well as throughout the log. Please link this to any one else u think might be interested!

[JudgementDay]

Im in

[AaronJP1]

IN!

[FlawedGrunt]

No worries on the rant, I agree.

So that would be 200mg daily? I feel like that's a bit much IMO.. I do one cap at bed time (20/30min prior) it has 100mg 5htp and I forget how much valerian bc I cracked the bottle n tossed it out, so I don't have the label. The valerian is truly what helps w the sleep. Some ppl find 5htp mKes them groggy, but not me.. Alone, it wouldn't help me sleep at all honestly, I just take it at night bc it's with the valerian. If you wanted to get a 50mg capsule, you could do 50 am n 50 at bed.. Sounds like ur best bet to me

I definitely might just go ahead and break one of the 100mg in half and see how that works... for now I will stay at 100mg before bed (about 2 hours)... i felt like the first time in awhile I was rested next step will be adding the valerian

[jwa254]

subbed! kill it

[chedapalooza]

I definitely might just go ahead and break one of the 100mg in half and see how that works... for now I will stay at 100mg before bed (about 2 hours)... i felt like the first time in awhile I was rested next step will be adding the valerian

Cool. Keep me posted.

Thanks for joining, everyone else. Where the hell is Tommy (packers)?

[chedapalooza]

So I am thinking of a format to keep the daily logs simple and effective..

I will record supps/doses, possibly timing once I get that down, although certain ones may fluctuate. Diet will be simple to record, just a few words about it so no macro counting. Exercise is straight forward. Little observations write up.. And like a little list of 1-10 scale

Sleep - Time and Quality
Mood/Aggression
Energy
Mental Focus and Clarity
Stress
Immune System
Libido
Joints
Endurance
Strength
Pump
Vascularity
Quality of Training
Recovery
Notes-write up
^credit Rosie Chee Scott for development and jd for finding it for me

Every sat or Sunday I will weigh in since I don't have a scale at school. I go home for work on weekends n it sucks bc I'm a waiter. So 6 hours on my feet with no meal sucks! I go RIGHT from the gym too so I only have time to gulp down the worlds largest protein shake. I do take aminos or a shake in with me tho for during my shift

[chedapalooza]

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[JudgementDay]

Cool. Keep me posted.

Thanks for joining, everyone else. Where the hell is Tommy (packers)?

Tommy? im right here

O the other Tommy... last time I saw Packers was when his wife helped me sneek out of his house this morning.....

[chedapalooza]

Tommy? im right here

O the other Tommy... last time I saw Packers was when his wife helped me sneek out of his house this morning.....

Hahaha don't bring that drama round here!

[JudgementDay]

Hahaha don't bring that drama round here!

no drama, just playin lol...


Here is the layout I tried before, I got it from Rosie's logs, her logging compares to no one else, not sure if you ever checked her logs out before, but wow just amazing detail.

Sleep - Time and Quality
Mood/Aggression
Energy
Mental Focus and Clarity
Stress
Immune System
Libido
Joints
Endurance
Strength
Pump
Vascularity
Quality of Training
Recovery
Body Composition and Look
Other Effects