[thebigt]

OK, i got my supremacy in the mail yesterday. i dosed 1 cap 15 minutes before afternoon meal and then 1 cap 15 minutes before my meal before work last night. when i got home from work i showered and took 1 cap 15 minutes before some carbs before heading to the gym...can't say i really noticed much, but didn't expect to for a few days. hopefully the cryoshock will come in the next day or so!!! i am really needing this stack to get me back up to speed, damn sinus infection really laid me out and missed a week of work and no gym...really feeling weak, i hope this stack gets me right!!! one more thing, i am a stim junkie and have really been going lite on stims for the last couple of weeks, so cryoshock should really hit me hard!!!

[thebigt]

oh,yeah-i bought the supremacy on my own dime!!!

[p5sky]

was it you, BigT, that said you are NOT a Neogenix fan? Not knocking you, just more interested in your opinion of these products. We all have our favorite companies and forget/neglect to try something new, or maybe just bad luck on previous products taint our opinion.

Let's hear how these treat you.

[thebigt]

was it you, BigT, that said you are NOT a Neogenix fan? Not knocking you, just more interested in your opinion of these products. We all have our favorite companies and forget/neglect to try something new, or maybe just bad luck on previous products taint our opinion.Let's hear how these treat you.

yup....but what i said was...'even though i am no fan of neogenix, i have to admit the sample it tried of cryoshock was very good'...nothing like taking something out of context, lol....i read tuton's log of supremacy and did some digging around, it looked like something i wanted to try-so i bought some!!! my reason for not being a fan of neogenix was personal, it had nothing to do with their products. since prepenwa became a neogenix rep i see neogenix in a much more favorable light!!!!

[PrepNwa23]

LoL i'm glad we are in a more favorable light my friend. When i ran Supremacy when it hits you it hits you, my libido went through the roof. The CryoShock is awesome its not overly stimmed but the ingredients in it are properly dosed and i can't say enough i love COP its awesome.

[p5sky]

yup....but what i said was...'even though i am no fan of neogenix, i have to admit the sample it tried of cryoshock was very good'...nothing like taking something out of context, lol....i read tuton's log of supremacy and did some digging around, it looked like something i wanted to try-so i bought some!!! my reason for not being a fan of neogenix was personal, it had nothing to do with their products. since prepenwa became a neogenix rep i see neogenix in a much more favorable light!!!!

Didnt mean to take out of context, but had no clue why you had your preference or indifference. Just means that you are open-minded and your opinion will be valuable because you are not a Neogenix GROUPIE, LOL

[PrepNwa23]

Didnt mean to take out of context, but had no clue why you had your preference or indifference. Just means that you are open-minded and your opinion will be valuable because you are not a Neogenix GROUPIE, LOL

LoL we have groupies?

[thebigt]

LoL i'm glad we are in a more favorable light my friend. When i ran Supremacy when it hits you it hits you, my libido went through the roof. The CryoShock is awesome its not overly stimmed but the ingredients in it are properly dosed and i can't say enough i love COP its awesome.

ok, how long did it take for this good stuff to happen? still dosing 3 caps a day 15 minutes before eating!!! i am sitting right at 220, you think i should bump to 4 caps per day? hoping cryoshock come tomorrow!!!

[PrepNwa23]

ok, how long did it take for this good stuff to happen? still dosing 3 caps a day 15 minutes before eating!!! i am sitting right at 220, you think i should bump to 4 caps per day? hoping cryoshock come tomorrow!!!

My dreams became more vivid about day 2 or 3 libido started moving about days 5 or 6. I'd wait to see if 3 caps work for you about day 7, if your not feeling it bump it up. I know bottle says 220 so i say its up to you which way you go with it.

[caz1238]

seriously your gonna like supremacy! im going to be running supremacy, endosurge. 2,000mg of nettle extract FTW

[thebigt]

seriously your gonna like supremacy! im going to be running supremacy, endosurge. 2,000mg of nettle extract FTW

endosurge is good stuff with a hefty serving of divanill, and supremacy has divanill also-isn't adding the 2gms of nettle redundant? not sure, i have never dosed it that high!!! at any rate, good luck...let me know how that turns out!!!

[thebigt]

My dreams became more vivid about day 2 or 3 libido started moving about days 5 or 6. I'd wait to see if 3 caps work for you about day 7, if your not feeling it bump it up. I know bottle says 220 so i say its up to you which way you go with it.

no vivid dreams yet....i read where tuton said his endurance went up, i really need that. not only is my strength way down, but endurance is non existant.. i was gasping for air after every set this morning-being sick really kicked the crap out of me, going to do treadmill this afternoon and tomorrow to try and build up some stamina!!! still sticking with 3 caps, can't wait for it to kick in...hope the cryoshock comes today, i can really use it!!!!

[SDR]

seriously your gonna like supremacy! im going to be running supremacy, endosurge. 2,000mg of nettle extract FTW

endosurge is good stuff with a hefty serving of divanill, and supremacy has divanill also-isn't adding the 2gms of nettle redundant? not sure, i have never dosed it that high!!! at any rate, good luck...let me know how that turns out!!!

While not only being redundant, it can very well impede gains. We have our nettle made through a specific extraction process that yields exceptionally high ligand content to suppress SHBG. This is custom made, not something anyone else can get.

For example, nettle you buy at the store for $10 uses a super cheap alcoholic extract marketed to treat DHT conversion and prostate issues. For this purpose its effective, for muscle growth its not.

I highly recommend you do not stack it with any other nettle product if you want it to perform the best.

[thebigt]

While not only being redundant, it can very well impede gains. We have our nettle made through a specific extraction process that yields exceptionally high ligand content to suppress SHBG. This is custom made, not something anyone else can get.For example, nettle you buy at the store for $10 uses a super cheap alcoholic extract marketed to treat DHT conversion and prostate issues. For this purpose its effective, for muscle growth its not.I highly recommend you do not stack it with any other nettle product if you want it to perform the best.

good info-i am on trt and respond well to divanill!!!

[caz1238]

hmm i guess its the quality over quantity issue for divanil, i really had no idea that 2g dose of divanil could hinder gains! thanks for the info, i guess im just going to use DAA and supremacy

[PrepNwa23]

While not only being redundant, it can very well impede gains. We have our nettle made through a specific extraction process that yields exceptionally high ligand content to suppress SHBG. This is custom made, not something anyone else can get.

For example, nettle you buy at the store for $10 uses a super cheap alcoholic extract marketed to treat DHT conversion and prostate issues. For this purpose its effective, for muscle growth its not.

I highly recommend you do not stack it with any other nettle product if you want it to perform the best.

There you go best answer you can get there.

[SDR]

hmm i guess its the quality over quantity issue for divanil, i really had no idea that 2g dose of divanil could hinder gains! thanks for the info, i guess im just going to use DAA and supremacy

(DAA + Supremacy) that's a great stack!

[thebigt]

well, no cryoshock today, hopefully tomorrow!!!

[thebigt]

so far i haven't noticed any changes in sleep or dreams, but i am on prescription sleep meds. tonight is phenibut night-[i alternate between scprit meds and phenibut], so if wild dreams are going to happen tonight should be the time!!! i did an hour on the treadmill today, endurance and stamina are still way down-[i think i still have remnants of that damned sinus infection]. tomorrow i am going to try a full body workout-sure do hope my cryoshock comes today!!!!

[thebigt]

well, cryoshock didn't come again today, lol...........here we go again......

[SDR]

well, cryoshock didn't come again today, lol...........here we go again......

Fedex is a little slow.. It should be there monday for sure.

[AZMIDLYF]

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In for the comeback!!

[thebigt]

Fedex is a little slow.. It should be there monday for sure.

thank you for the tracking#, monday it is!!! i haven't gotten anything from fedex for awhile, i had forgotten how slow they are, lol.

[thebigt]

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In for the comeback!!

lol, very nice-az!!! you are right comeback indeed...i attempted a fullbody workout today, and just didn't have it. hopefully the supremacy and cryoshock will help get me back up to speed....this dammed sinus infection really put a hurtin on me!!! i did get a decent nights sleep last night, but don't remember any dreams.....

[PrepNwa23]

thank you for the tracking#, monday it is!!! i haven't gotten anything from fedex for awhile, i had forgotten how slow they are, lol.

Haha told you we didn't forget about you big fella.