Androdrive, can I get a refund log

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  1. Androdrive, can I get a refund log


    Ok, first off I am not hatin on pp, but site says if you keep a log and am not satisfied you can get your money back. And I thought the title would get lots of views. I use lots of pp's products back in the day, superdrone was amazing for me, and I still use some of their staple products. I know their are lots of HUGE claims and bold statements made about their new line, and lots of haters. I am not a hater, but skeptical top say the least. So here we go. I came up on a good deal and bought three bottles of androdrive. I wanted to have plenty and run it for long enough to give an honest review. I will be stacking it with alphamass as I have been on it for 3 weeks already. I have to supplement a lot with shakes due to work schedule and some health issues. I know this is not preferred method, but this is me.
    4 eggs in the morning. Shakes throught out the day for about 200grams worth of protein. A gallon of water minimum. And a good meal with lots of greens and lean meat at night. I will get more specific with my meal plan.
    I am currently 250lbs at 5'11". Not sure of bf but higher than it should be. I have a two pack now, the lower 4 have gone into hiding. I take 112mcg of synthroid a day. Part of the reason my bf has gotten higher was doc screwed up my dosage. This morning I took 6 androdrive and headed off to the gym. Oh yeah, routine. I lift 4 days a week and do cardio 5 days a week. Dont have a set day to train each part, just go on how my body feels.
    Well lets get this started. Feel free to join me on this ride, as I give androdrive a try


  2. sub'd. what dosages are you runnin alpha mass and ad at?
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  3. 3 alpha mass 3 times a day and 6 androdrive first thing in the morning. I use craze preworkout, and ultima mixed with my strive that I sip on the way to the gym and during my workout. 1 scoop monster nilk and one scoop protean post work out, and a few through out the day. IGF 2 before bed. THat is all I am using as far as supplements, with exception to fish oil and a few other staples

  4. Just to make sure that you've seen the update:

    Return Policy -
    Effective immediately for all orders (Nov 28th, 2011)
    All unused and unopened Primordial Performance product that is ordered directly from Primordial Performance is backed by a 100% money-back guarantee for the original purchase price. If you would like to return your product for a refund or in-store credit, please call us at 1-503-841-6702 within 60 days from your date of order shipment. Upon receiving an explanation for the return, we will provide you with a return authorization number (RA#). You will be required to return items that you wish to receive a refund for, along with the RA#. Shipping charges are non-refundable.

    Example 1: If you were to purchase 4 bottles of AndroMass, and open one bottle, you would be eligible for a refund of the purchase price of the three (3) bottles upon return of 3 unopened bottles of AndroMass.
    All orders paid with the 3x payment plan, or any form of credit, must be paid in full before any credit will be given for returned product.

    Unshipped orders may be canceled/refunded at any time.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja
    Just to make sure that you've seen the update:

    Return Policy -
    Effective immediately for all orders (Nov 28th, 2011)
    All unused and unopened Primordial Performance product that is ordered directly from Primordial Performance is backed by a 100% money-back guarantee for the original purchase price. If you would like to return your product for a refund or in-store credit, please call us at 1-503-841-6702 within 60 days from your date of order shipment. Upon receiving an explanation for the return, we will provide you with a return authorization number (RA#). You will be required to return items that you wish to receive a refund for, along with the RA#. Shipping charges are non-refundable.

    Example 1: If you were to purchase 4 bottles of AndroMass, and open one bottle, you would be eligible for a refund of the purchase price of the three (3) bottles upon return of 3 unopened bottles of AndroMass.
    All orders paid with the 3x payment plan, or any form of credit, must be paid in full before any credit will be given for returned product.

    Unshipped orders may be canceled/refunded at any time.
    I thought it was always this.
    But if an AndroSeries product doesn't work for somebody, there is a good chance they didn't diet correctly.
    Refunds of opened products like this shouldn't be allowed.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I thought it was always this.
    But if an AndroSeries product doesn't work for somebody, there is a good chance they didn't diet correctly.
    Refunds of opened products like this shouldn't be allowed.
    It used to be a full refund even on opened products, but too many were abusing the system.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  7. If you are enjoying alpha mass then AD will certainly work out for you, I'll be following.


  8. well I didnt buy if from them directly, so I guess I am out of luck. I still think the title will draw attention and get people to follow, it was more of a joke anyways.

  9. I am open to any suggestions from pp on dosing or running this. Like I said I bought 3 bottles, so I am pretty confident I will get some results

  10. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I thought it was always this.
    But if an AndroSeries product doesn't work for somebody, there is a good chance they didn't diet correctly.
    Refunds of opened products like this shouldn't be allowed.
    Exactly.....how many times when someone is dis-satisfied with their results does it boil down to somebody asking "what does your diet look like?"......... and the answer is something like "my diet? I drink 4 mountain dews throughout the day on my smoke breaks, and eat a bear claw for breakfast...is that what you mean by diet?" lol....I bet 90+ % of the time its the diet not the product. Or the lack of protein in the diet at the least.

  11. so no bear claws for breakfast or ho ho's for lunch?
    My diet is on track. I bought enough proteins that I like drinking that I can keep my protein at a good level. I dont eat any processed food, only fresh, except for a sweat tea for a treat on the weekend

  12. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    so no bear claws for breakfast or ho ho's for lunch?
    Only once a week on your pigout day

  13. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    Exactly.....how many times when someone is dis-satisfied with their results does it boil down to somebody asking "what does your diet look like?"......... and the answer is something like "my diet? I drink 4 mountain dews throughout the day on my smoke breaks, and eat a bear claw for breakfast...is that what you mean by diet?" lol....I bet 90+ % of the time its the diet not the product. Or the lack of protein in the diet at the least.
    lol...
    Damn sure don't need 360 grams lol.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    I am open to any suggestions from pp on dosing or running this. Like I said I bought 3 bottles, so I am pretty confident I will get some results
    Either split 2 cycles of 6 weeks at full dose, or if you really enjoy it run it for 12


  15. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    lol...
    Damn sure don't need 360 grams lol.
    talk to matt about that one lol

  16. Lol that's a messed up title bro, got me in the door I guess, but not really necessary. Good luck with your run...
    Corn is to popcorn as, prohormones are to steriods...

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle View Post
    Lol that's a messed up title bro, got me in the door I guess, but not really necessary. Good luck with your run...
    I know the title is crazy. Lots of pp haters out there. I have kinda stayed away from most pp product discussion cause so many are hatin and get pretty mean. Sure there are big claims out there, but I am gonna run it for a while and give an honest unbiased opinion. I dont rep for anyone and spent my own hard earned money on it

  18. End of day two, not much to report. Just finished up my evening meal. Chicken and whole wheat pasta and green beans. Gonna relax for a little while then will eat a couple hard boiled egg whites and drink my night time protein shake and get my sleep on. Trained chest on monday and am very sore. Planned on doing legs this morning but my knee was acting a little sketchy so I just trained arms instead and did my cardio. Probably coincidental, but I did seem more mentally motivated after work when I got home to do stuff, but body was just too tired. I am eating quite a bit fewer calories than I am use to so it will take me a few days to adjust. Fewer calories and cardio and heavy weights wear the body out. My wife and I have given up tv so at least getting more sleep is easier.

  19. will be following

  20. not sure what is up, but think I started puberty during my sleep. Got up this morning and have some pimples on my face and some on my back, and that never happens to me

  21. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    not sure what is up, but think I started puberty during my sleep. Got up this morning and have some pimples on my face and some on my back, and that never happens to me
    Increase in anabolic hormones
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Increase in anabolic hormones
    that is what I am hoping for, seems kinda soon

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    that is what I am hoping for, seems kinda soon
    Can happy rather quickly actually


  24. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef View Post
    not sure what is up, but think I started puberty during my sleep. Got up this morning and have some pimples on my face and some on my back, and that never happens to me
    I remember when this used to happen to me in highschool...luckily I escaped (or unluckily if you really want the high hormones that badly lol)

  25. ok, I have dropped the alpha mass. IT is a very good product but I am going to incorporate it in at a later time. I have added in dermacrine though. Felt very energetic this morning at the gym. Weight was the same as it was friday so I am happy about that. Most of the time I cheat a little on the weekends and carry a few extra but weighed in dead even

  26. Quote Originally Posted by bigbeef
    ok, I have dropped the alpha mass. IT is a very good product but I am going to incorporate it in at a later time. I have added in dermacrine though. Felt very energetic this morning at the gym. Weight was the same as it was friday so I am happy about that. Most of the time I cheat a little on the weekends and carry a few extra but weighed in dead even
    Following sir, and yes dermacrime always make me happy!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by raulob72 View Post
    Following sir, and yes dermacrime always make me happy!
    is this dermacrine still available? its PP right? I did not see it on their site anymore.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    is this dermacrine still available? its PP right? I did not see it on their site anymore.
    Needto are the ones that sell it now

  29. Quote Originally Posted by raulob72 View Post
    Needto are the ones that sell it now
    not true PP still sales their derm but on a different site.... Need to build muscle has rs Transaderm.. both the same product but do your owe search.... In for your log!
    Diet is always the key to unlocking the door of success

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