Mattrag's Pre-DOWN!

[runner_79]

Hemavol + WF the go then?

[mattrag]

Hemavol + WF the go then?

Yea. Hemavol is great. I'm not 100% sure though that it is hemavol OR just agmatine. So you might wanna try some bulk agmatine if it's cheaper. Also, that way you could play around with dosing it with meals to enhance glycogen uptake instead of pre workout where you don't have food.

[runner_79]

Yea. Hemavol is great. I'm not 100% sure though that it is hemavol OR just agmatine. So you might wanna try some bulk agmatine if it's cheaper. Also, that way you could play around with dosing it with meals to enhance glycogen uptake instead of pre workout where you don't have food.

Rather do weights fasted...I like the empty stomach approach even for legs...also pre w/o hits me better and much more sustained

[mattrag]

Rather do weights fasted...I like the empty stomach approach even for legs...also pre w/o hits me better and much more sustained

Might want to try check out Dr. D's thread (if you haven't already) about agamatine. I don't normally dose mine w/o food. Even when I take maxivol (the iForce preworkout with Agmatine), I usually take it with some fast digesting carbs and minimal protien (just 10g bcaas). Already got some luecine in it anyway. Then workout. Something about agmatine blunting fat loss came about. So I figure use it to get pumps (increase glycogen) this would mean less storage of fat/more calories to muscles. I could be wrong like I said, but that's what I gather from reading everything. Agmatine with meals is best. And it really doesn't matter if it's preworkout. It just provides long lasting pumps.

[Srt4Muscle]

subbed, i need to go back over this and read everything, im shopping for a pre workout

[runner_79]

subbed, i need to go back over this and read everything, im shopping for a pre workout

White flood
Craze + PLCAR or ALCAR

Good to go

[mattrag]

subbed, i need to go back over this and read everything, im shopping for a pre workout

Got any questions on any? I have tried quite a bit.

[mattrag]

White flood
Craze + PLCAR or ALCAR

Good to go

I wonder which is better for each situation.

[bigdavid]

agmatine! yes! I am going to order some now havent tried it yet time to give it a whirl.

[mattrag]

agmatine! yes! I am going to order some now havent tried it yet time to give it a whirl.

Try it. I'm about to drink some hemavol right now!

[AaronJP1]

agmatine! yes! I am going to order some now havent tried it yet time to give it a whirl.

Tried it.
It was in my recent AI order.
Also have a tub from prima force.
Backed off the agmatine for a bit.

Hell I'm taking Animal Pump, AndroMass, decavol, m-stak, a pre w/o, storm creatine, serious mass, syntha-6, atomic 7, recompadrol, oh and a multi-v.

I'm on a lotta shít... Don't need too much more. haha

[mattrag]

Tried it.
It was in my recent AI order.
Also have a tub from prima force.
Backed off the agmatine for a bit.

Hell I'm taking Animal Pump, AndroMass, decavol, m-stak, a pre w/o, storm creatine, serious mass, syntha-6, atomic 7, recompadrol, oh and a multi-v.

I'm on a lotta shít... Don't need too much more. haha

On a steroid or ph with enhanced glycogen uptake taking agmatine wouldn't be beneficial IMO. Recompadrol working well? I'm going to try need2slin. But that's a different thread all together.

[BB12]

Tried it.
It was in my recent AI order.
Also have a tub from prima force.
Backed off the agmatine for a bit.

Hell I'm taking Animal Pump, AndroMass, decavol, m-stak, a pre w/o, storm creatine, serious mass, syntha-6, atomic 7, recompadrol, oh and a multi-v.

I'm on a lotta shít... Don't need too much more. haha

Haha... you would have saved time by typing "on everything - beast mode"

Lol

[mattrag]

Haha... you would have saved time by typing "on everything - beast mode"

Lol

LMAO, Beast mode is the next pre workout I am going to log

[stopstalking]

Try it. I'm about to drink some hemavol right now!

I'm hooked on maxamize v2 and hemavol right now !

[mattrag]

I'm hooked on maxamize v2 and hemavol right now !

I love me my hemavol!

[runner_79]

I love me my hemavol!

WF + ALCAR is stimulating!!! Good thing is no creatine...I hate water retention of any kind

[mattrag]

WF + ALCAR is stimulating!!! Good thing is no creatine...I hate water retention of any kind

Get good creatine.
Or eat lotta red meat and fish.

[Srt4Muscle]

Got any questions on any? I have tried quite a bit.

well i guess i need to look into hemavol lol, i also need to do some more research on glycogen storage and fat loss i think. im shopping for pwo right now, i was hoping to win a promotion to point me in the right direction lol i only really tried no explode and jacked and c4, jacked was hit or miss on 2-3 scoops, and the other two i didnt like

i wanted to point you towards the purus lab promotion, i think with this thread you could win for sure. i mean why wouldnt they want to get your review when you been comparing all these other pwo's. check it out, maybe well both win.

how ya like my new avatar, toot toot (thats the sound of my own horn) lmao

[Srt4Muscle]

lol there i nominated you to win haha Log Newest Muscle Marinade Flavor STACKED with D-Pol!!