Mattrag's Pre-DOWN!

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  1. Yesterday I tried to take the bpi pre. It tasted horrible. I couldn't even stomach it. I'm going the old school route and I am gonna just shoot it either today or tomorrow and workout with it.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag
    Yesterday I tried to take the bpi pre. It tasted horrible. I couldn't even stomach it. I'm going the old school route and I am gonna just shoot it either today or tomorrow and workout with it.
    Must be new... Didn't know BPI had a PWO out...
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Must be new... Didn't know BPI had a PWO out...
    its called 1MR. I think its been out for some time now.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    its called 1MR. I think its been out for some time now.
    Aw yea I am familiar forgot BPI makes it lol.
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  5. Apparently, I got different flavors of the BPI stuff lol. Fruit Punch I believe is the one I tried... Hopefully orange will taste better.

    I havent used any Pre workouts this week (Since tossing out the other one), so this small break should be good for my poor adrenals lol.

    Tomorrow I will bring both BPI and craze (it came!), if I can't drink the BPI one I will use some craze
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  6. Today I took craze. My workout buddy got injured so my gym time was moved.
    Full review of craze tomorrow.
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  7. DS Craze

    Taste: This stuff tasted pretty bad to me... I know some ppl say it tastes great, just like grape koolaid... well I never drank grape koolaid so I donno but man I don't really like it... BUT

    Focus: Good god... I have been on Sdrol (as those of you following my log know), and I have never been this focused ever... the pain of everything else (my lower back and upper back have been giving me problems) vanished. I am there, ready to do whatever it takes to get the sets done.

    Energy: I wasn't fatigued this day as it was a day off from work. But sometimes that can be a downer... I didn't feel a kick like I do with 1,3 or a boat load of caffeine but omg... I pushed hard.

    Endurance: Sadly I must have not eaten enough or something because I fell short on what I wanted to do as my squatting was just too painful on my knees. (Unfortunately, that pain didnt go away... I guess if it did it would mean my nervous system crashed) I will try it again today as today is another long workout (slowly incorporating my HST in from 5s)

    Crash: No crash, was very alert and happy all day. Alertness was so intense it kinda irritated me... hahah.


    Sides: Too Alert, felt too good at some points. Also, felt so good I couldn't sleep. I took it at 2pm and the good mood lasted till today... I slept for around 3 hours last night and have just been amped to hit the weights today. I hope this goes away, or is some kinda fluke as I want to take this pre workout again tonight....


    Craze is a different kind of preworkout.... I got the pumps, but it was from the workout, not from a product.

    Value: Good value as one scoop did it all for me. I don't know for sure if the effects will wear off as time passes but I know for now it's quite a good deal. Still doesn't come close to White Flood for value though. But White Flood never made me feel THIS good.... also didn't keep me up at night... More to come later!
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  8. Okay so I took a break from stims. Then around a week ago I started taking Hemavol to help glycogen uptake and nutrient partitioning. Then the past 2 workouts I have been using Maximize as well. WOW. Pretty strong. Like I said I am going into PCT now (In my original log). Don't really know what to attribute the pumps to aside from this (Unless the low dose ostarine I am using is making me feel like I am on again...)
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    Beast mode log should be starting soon. I am going to miss the agamatine from maximize but I will still be using hemovol as it just tastes SO DAMN GOOD!
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  9. I got some WF on sale and if there was something to add for strength + endurance boost what would you add?i think it needs more l-Citrulline or some creatine phosphate (less retention but fuller pumps?)
    Maybe some ALCAR? LCLT?DAA?lemondae tastes good. Gf bought me monster amino sour grape...reserved thoughts even though it's 8:1:1
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    I got some WF on sale and if there was something to add for strength + endurance boost what would you add?i think it needs more l-Citrulline or some creatine phosphate (less retention but fuller pumps?)
    Maybe some ALCAR? LCLT?DAA?lemondae tastes good. Gf bought me monster amino sour grape...reserved thoughts even though it's 8:1:1
    For pumps and endurance I would add some L-citrulline. I usually get that from my BCAA product (xtends). TBH, creatine gives me MEAN strength... i think that's why I got messed up... I thought ALL the preworkouts I was taking had um in it lol.
    Agmatine.... is beastly for pumps. Not sure how it will affect endurance yet. While I was on cycle pumps were so bad it negatively impacted my workouts to the point where some workouts I would not take any preworkout so I could avoid getting TOO pumped...
    For me endurance has always been the ALCAR, Glutamine, BCAA, Creatine mix. Alcar to help get fat stores into mitochondria, glutamine and bcaas for amino acids during training, and creatine for extra ATP synthesis and slight increase in DHT. Something about HemaVol though... granted I have NEVER taken an Agmatine product before this. I absolutely love it.
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  11. Hemavol + WF the go then?
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Hemavol + WF the go then?
    Yea. Hemavol is great. I'm not 100% sure though that it is hemavol OR just agmatine. So you might wanna try some bulk agmatine if it's cheaper. Also, that way you could play around with dosing it with meals to enhance glycogen uptake instead of pre workout where you don't have food.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Yea. Hemavol is great. I'm not 100% sure though that it is hemavol OR just agmatine. So you might wanna try some bulk agmatine if it's cheaper. Also, that way you could play around with dosing it with meals to enhance glycogen uptake instead of pre workout where you don't have food.
    Rather do weights fasted...I like the empty stomach approach even for legs...also pre w/o hits me better and much more sustained
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Rather do weights fasted...I like the empty stomach approach even for legs...also pre w/o hits me better and much more sustained
    Might want to try check out Dr. D's thread (if you haven't already) about agamatine. I don't normally dose mine w/o food. Even when I take maxivol (the iForce preworkout with Agmatine), I usually take it with some fast digesting carbs and minimal protien (just 10g bcaas). Already got some luecine in it anyway. Then workout. Something about agmatine blunting fat loss came about. So I figure use it to get pumps (increase glycogen) this would mean less storage of fat/more calories to muscles. I could be wrong like I said, but that's what I gather from reading everything. Agmatine with meals is best. And it really doesn't matter if it's preworkout. It just provides long lasting pumps.
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  15. subbed, i need to go back over this and read everything, im shopping for a pre workout
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle
    subbed, i need to go back over this and read everything, im shopping for a pre workout
    White flood
    Craze + PLCAR or ALCAR

    Good to go
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle
    subbed, i need to go back over this and read everything, im shopping for a pre workout
    Got any questions on any? I have tried quite a bit.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79

    White flood
    Craze + PLCAR or ALCAR

    Good to go
    I wonder which is better for each situation.
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  19. agmatine! yes! I am going to order some now havent tried it yet time to give it a whirl.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid
    agmatine! yes! I am going to order some now havent tried it yet time to give it a whirl.
    Try it. I'm about to drink some hemavol right now!
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid
    agmatine! yes! I am going to order some now havent tried it yet time to give it a whirl.
    Tried it.
    It was in my recent AI order.
    Also have a tub from prima force.
    Backed off the agmatine for a bit.

    Hell I'm taking Animal Pump, AndroMass, decavol, m-stak, a pre w/o, storm creatine, serious mass, syntha-6, atomic 7, recompadrol, oh and a multi-v.

    I'm on a lotta shít... Don't need too much more. haha
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Tried it.
    It was in my recent AI order.
    Also have a tub from prima force.
    Backed off the agmatine for a bit.

    Hell I'm taking Animal Pump, AndroMass, decavol, m-stak, a pre w/o, storm creatine, serious mass, syntha-6, atomic 7, recompadrol, oh and a multi-v.

    I'm on a lotta shít... Don't need too much more. haha
    On a steroid or ph with enhanced glycogen uptake taking agmatine wouldn't be beneficial IMO. Recompadrol working well? I'm going to try need2slin. But that's a different thread all together.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    Tried it.
    It was in my recent AI order.
    Also have a tub from prima force.
    Backed off the agmatine for a bit.

    Hell I'm taking Animal Pump, AndroMass, decavol, m-stak, a pre w/o, storm creatine, serious mass, syntha-6, atomic 7, recompadrol, oh and a multi-v.

    I'm on a lotta shít... Don't need too much more. haha
    Haha... you would have saved time by typing "on everything - beast mode"

    Lol
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by BB12 View Post
    Haha... you would have saved time by typing "on everything - beast mode"

    Lol
    LMAO, Beast mode is the next pre workout I am going to log
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Try it. I'm about to drink some hemavol right now!
    I'm hooked on maxamize v2 and hemavol right now !

  26. Quote Originally Posted by stopstalking

    I'm hooked on maxamize v2 and hemavol right now !
    I love me my hemavol!
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    I love me my hemavol!
    WF + ALCAR is stimulating!!! Good thing is no creatine...I hate water retention of any kind
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79

    WF + ALCAR is stimulating!!! Good thing is no creatine...I hate water retention of any kind
    Get good creatine.
    Or eat lotta red meat and fish.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Got any questions on any? I have tried quite a bit.
    well i guess i need to look into hemavol lol, i also need to do some more research on glycogen storage and fat loss i think. im shopping for pwo right now, i was hoping to win a promotion to point me in the right direction lol i only really tried no explode and jacked and c4, jacked was hit or miss on 2-3 scoops, and the other two i didnt like

    i wanted to point you towards the purus lab promotion, i think with this thread you could win for sure. i mean why wouldnt they want to get your review when you been comparing all these other pwo's. check it out, maybe well both win.

    how ya like my new avatar, toot toot (thats the sound of my own horn) lmao
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  30. lol there i nominated you to win haha Log Newest Muscle Marinade Flavor STACKED with D-Pol!!
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