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    AK's Preworkouts DeathMatch! Craze, SPMax, Lit-Up, Pumpbol, Ultima, etc..


    So I just got my tub of DS Craze finally,

    still sealed but I will pop it open soon enough.

    Since I have a bunch of different prewo (and I tried *a lot* more)
    I decided to do this deathmatch, mentally run thru them and just write down
    my experience with them.
    Also to do a small review of Craze since it seems a whole new game in
    prewo dept. and compare it with my favorites prewo so far.
    Would have been nice to add also Supersize and UltraReps (I won them)
    but I didn't receive 'em yet, maybe I'll add them later.

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    Disclaimer: no pimping is gonna happen in this 3d, only real, honest
    opinion

    So let's start with the one I've been using this month,
    almost over:

    Thermolife PumpBol
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    Pbol is stim free, it became my favorite stim free
    prewo.

    Taste 7/10: It taste ok for me, doesn't bother me,
    is not the best tasting prewo ever but I have no
    problem keeping it in my mouth and squish it around
    every sip (that's how you're suppose to take it).
    It's a bit sour and it numb by tongue a bit but w/e

    Mixability 9/10:
    Keeping in mind that it has nitrates
    in it, it mixes pretty well, quick shaking and it's done,
    really lil residue at the bottom which you easily swallow
    with the last sip

    Focus/Nootropic effect 6/10: is not meant to
    have much of a nootropic effect, this product
    doesn't really help with focus BUT, with that said,
    the crazy pumps that gives you do have - while not
    a nootropic effect - a good drive and motivation as
    consequence.

    Pump 10/10: I never cared much about pumps,
    never hunted down products that give you pump really
    not I tried a lot of pump oriented ones, but
    this thing is no joke: pumps on Pbol are just insane,
    never experienced anything like it before.
    Do they last for hours like TL claims? Hell yes!
    They last the whole damn day and more, on leg day
    is just painful for days (and I'm used to DOMS and i actually want
    them every wo). But the pumps with this one are not just aesthetic
    at least not for me: what I feel is a deeper muscle stimulation
    since the very first warmup set. This is why it became my fav
    stim free pwo and one of my top5 overall.

    Energy 6.5/10: I'm spoiled with prewo, I train fasted and
    I can tell the difference between a prewo that gives you actual
    energy, it's a very important part of a prewo for me.
    Pbol being stim free lacks of that energy that others give me,
    same goes for endurance, doesn't really help with that, despite this,
    once again, the muscle stimulation is so strong that somewhat helps
    going on, at the same time pumps can get really painful

    Price/Servings 8/10: I use this at 1 scoop,there are 42 servings meaning, it last a month and a half
    for me working out 6 days a week. Pretty good if you ask me
    and another thing to be notices is the packaging is amazing
    and it comes with a mini plastic tub so you can bring your serving
    in your pocket without taking the big tub with you.
    I tried dosing it at 1.5 and 2 scoops, in both cases the effects
    didn't change, at 2 scoops nitrates seem to give me a lil bit of headache.
    Nice thing about stim free, you don't really need to overdose them.

    Overall experience: Very good product, I like other products fromTL and this one is indeed very cost effective, stackable, and the perfect choice
    for me when taking time off stims. I always keep a tub of it on the shelf.


    all for now, I'll go on later
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    Nice review. I've never tried pump-bol but I've tried a similar PWO dosed higher in nitrates (creatine and BCAA), pump aspect is off the charts. I didn't recognize any tangible benefits beyond a pump unfortunately.
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    I've never tried creatine nitrates, Pbol has beta ala nitrates and arginine i think,
    like i said, it does lack in energy and focus really but the muscle stimulation is indeed
    real, it last a ridiculous amount of time and considering I use to cut the prewo completely
    when going off stims, this one is nice. I added in past 150/200mg of caffeine to it
    and it does the trick. Cheap, effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    I've never tried creatine nitrates, Pbol has beta ala nitrates and arginine i think,
    like i said, it does lack in energy and focus really but the muscle stimulation is indeed
    real, it last a ridiculous amount of time and considering I use to cut the prewo completely
    when going off stims, this one is nice. I added in past 150/200mg of caffeine to it
    and it does the trick. Cheap, effective.
    Glad it's working for you. I was able to put on a little size with the product I was using over the course of the last year. The pump attribute would last maybe 2-4 hours post workout, how that translated to other types of training, i.e. conditioning routines/sports was negligible at best from my perspective. I'm currently using Craze (no pimping bought it myself) and it's an entirely new stim experience and the best yet in my opinion. Looking forward to your thoughts on Craze.
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    Nice review man!
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    Gaspari SuperPump Max

    I took more than one tub to understand this one
    at first I wasn't too fond of it, but later on I discovered
    the reason was because I was used to 1,3, which yes,
    it works but f#ck that sideways.. I don't do 1,3 anymore,
    I hate it.

    So here we go

    Taste: Grape 7.5 - Watermelon 8/10
    Grape tastes pretty much like every other grape
    sup, which I like.
    Watermelon is pretty awesome, I'm a fan of
    watermelon flavor tho', but this one is pretty good

    Mixability: 7/10
    It mixes ok, you need to shake it tho
    but if you shake it too much it gets a bit foamy
    which I hate. 7 tho' because there's no residue

    Focus/Nootropic: 7/10
    Not really where it shines, but it does give you
    some sort of tunnel vision, I'll explain better later in
    the energy part, but it does help with focus indeed.
    Nothing crazy, but good

    Pump: 7/10
    Not much of a pump product for me at least,
    once again, I don't really care I wouldn't even
    put this as a "category" but I did because of Pbol
    This one gives you some vascularity but is more
    due to the energy that gives you, driving you to push more
    than the product itself.

    Energy: 8.5/10
    Best part of the product.
    The energy is jittery free, and it's quite a lot
    A sup that you can indeed "feel" coming, it find it
    great for strength and hypertrophy workouts,
    it's the best you have to "call" a massive effort, ya know?
    A short burst of power, that's when I find this one giving the
    best performance, it does help with endurance too, but
    more for big weights than higher/lighter reps
    The energy lasts for all my 2+/3 hours workout
    and I get no crash after.
    It's pretty steady overall but once you know it
    and pay attention you can feel the "curve" of the energy
    going down a bit during time. I hit quite some PR on this one.

    Price/Servings: 8.5/10
    I use 2 scoops and even so, the product is not only well priced,
    but I can't remember NOT finding a deal somewhere on this one
    and you always end up paying it a lot less, and for a very effective product.
    I'll admit it, it's a pretty good bonus

    Overall Experience:
    Prewo are not all the same.
    Meaning - beside the obvious - some seem to be cut
    for a specific kind of wo, or a situation
    For this one I took 3 tubs to really understand it
    but once I did it, it became one of my usual prewo (since I cycle them all the time)
    I actually keep track of when I'm gonna use it vs workout program, because like I mentioned
    i did hit some good PR on this one exactly due the most noticeable effects on hypertrophy
    and power wo.
    Never an issue with stomach or anything like that with it.
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    Subbed!

    Looking forward to your thoughts on Craze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Subbed!

    Looking forward to your thoughts on Craze.
    Welcome bro
    me too, very curious about Craze
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    Why aren't SAN Fierce or Launch on this list?! PM me for samples so you can add to your review thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by allieninja View Post
    Why aren't SAN Fierce or Launch on this list?! PM me for samples so you can add to your review thread
    Yeah I never had the chance to try them, will happily get the samples and add them
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    Omega Ultima

    This one use to me my fav stim free..
    lately I found out it causes me such an odd
    reaction that I can't use it anymore

    let's get to it

    Taste: 5/10
    Better than the previous version but still
    kinda bad. I'm not a fan of lemon/lime flavors
    but - just to compare another one - Pbol
    tastes better.
    Especially considering that you're suppose to hold it
    in your mouth before swallowing, well it's pretty bad lol

    Mixability: 7/10
    It mixes ok, it dissolves pretty quickly and
    adding more water makes the flavor a bit better,
    no residue

    Focus/Nootropic: 2/10
    Here's the problem.
    Without getting into details the nootropic matrix on this one
    is *hella potent*, too potent. Too weird.
    In my opinion NOT meant for workouts. I use to take HALF
    scoop of it and it was already quite a lot, why? Because the thing
    makes me sleepy and "slowed down". You focus, but you focus on
    EVERYTHING around you, not your workout. I focus on dust in the corner,
    a fly in the room, a random thought.. But this last run, working out
    fasted in the morning - while I usually have no prob waking up and be
    full power within 40 min - after taking it had the hardest time getting started,
    keeping concentration and the whole wo felt like I was dragging myself around.
    I managed to have good workouts DESPITE it. I tried different dosing and timing
    effect is the same.
    The most annoying thing is this: it completely killed my aggression. You take
    that out of me, I'm done. I couldn't care about the world when on this and couldn't
    for the life of me reach that mind/muscle connection. Plus the more I took, the worse
    it was, even in split doses.

    Pump: 5/10
    Not a pump product really, never noticed - nor expected - pumps from it.

    Energy: 6/10
    If you take a look at the formula, this thing is top-notch,
    it has ALL the good stuff and more, I think it has the longest
    ingredient list of any other prewo, but really it might be a bit
    too much, or it might not be the one for me because well,
    it ain't working that good.. Being stim free it lack on that energy rush
    we're used to get from stimmed prewo, and there is really no much in
    the "performance enhancement" either, how could it be when it makes you
    sleepy? The only thing I might have noticed is overtime you get some endurance
    going on but it's more like dragging yourself because you feel in this odd state
    of mind.

    Price/Servings: 9/10
    It's not cheap at first glance, but the 40 servings EASILY turn into 80 servings for me
    and the product has so many ingredients, dosed to high that you'd save on
    probably 70% of your sups with this.. Would have been great, if it worked lol
    Nonetheless, price/serving ratio is great on paper.

    Overall Experience:
    I use to mix half scoop of Ultima with pretty much any stimmed prewo
    before (version V2) for concentration boost, I've never noticed the bad
    sleepy effect that I'm getting with the V3 version, don't know if the formula
    changed that much, or is me reacting differently for some reason, bottom line is
    for me this one became a big no-no.
    Maybe before bed when you have hard time sleeping, but def not prewo.
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    I would like to see some Beast Mode in this review pm me your shipping info if interested and I will try and get the Beast guys to send some out to you.
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    VPX No Shotgun MHF-1

    I liked this one quite a bit in past,
    for several reason, but I built tolerance to
    it quickly and despite I cycle prewo even month
    or two, despite I took a year+ off from this one
    it kinda stopped being effective like it was at first

    Taste: Watermelon 8.5/10 Lime 2/10 Grape 7/10
    Watermelon is one of the best tasting sup, I'd drink it
    just for how much I liked it, grape taste like every other grape
    sup, maybe a tad better, a fan of both, lemon/lime is just gawdawuful bad
    I tried once and tossed the whole tub for how bad it tastes.

    Mixability: 6/10
    The product can be considered "old" somehow,
    I think VPX came out with a new prewo recently,
    this requires some work to be mixed well, and the scoops
    are pretty damn big, a lot of powder and if you use it at
    2 scoops like me it requires a lot of water to mix,
    but there's one thing I've always hated about it:
    when you shake it it gets *foamy*, like thick a## foamy
    and the foam is nasty, you can toss it but you will toss quite some
    product along with it, so whether you wait for it to die
    or you swallow and try to keep the stuff down :/

    Focus/Nootropic: 6.5/10
    Not a nootropic/concentration oriented product,
    it give you some "drive" but is more due to the stims
    than some actual action on your brain, I wouldn't pick this one
    if one's looking at that on a prewo

    Pump: 7.5/10

    Pumps on this are there, better than SPMax in this, by lil but better.
    Especially vascularity, nothing crazy like Pbol but definitely it makes your
    blood flowing nicely and pump you up, especially during wo and it also
    kicks in pretty freaking fast.

    Energy: 8.5/10
    Best part of the product imo. NoShotgun at 2 scoops
    use to give me plenty of stimmed energy, jittery, nervous, snappy
    exactly what you need sometimes, I'm not after that kind of prewo anymore
    but energy-wise, this one delivers big time.
    Again, similar to SPMax it's great for hypertrophy and rage-driven kinda
    workouts, increases my aggression (big time actually) and
    you can feel bursts of energy during workouts. It also help with endurance,
    but make sure you time it well because as opposed to SPMax this one will give you
    a crash when it fades away, pretty noticeably too.

    Price/Serving: 6.5/10
    For today's standards is a bit pricey, stimmed prewo
    prices went down a bit with the "concentrated", considering I needed
    to run this at 2 full scoops is not the best deal.

    Overall Experience:
    NoShotgun was one of the first prewo I use to use regularly
    but as mentioned in the beginning, I built tolerance to it pretty
    quickly, I stopped using it at all for more than a year, maybe two
    and recently got a tub, I was running it at 3 scoops and got really
    lil out of it, it just doesn't work on me anymore.
    One very good thing to say about it tho', is that I noticed
    I *always* lean out with on it, even recently - despite the other
    effects were "watered down" - probably because that touch of Redline in it,
    dunno, but it gives plenty of vascularity and definitely helps with fat loss.
    Crashes are not too bad, but they are there, nothing compared to the 1,3 but
    still.. I remember working quite well with the No Synth, that happened years ago
    but I remember thinking they were more like one product split in two tubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I would like to see some Beast Mode in this review pm me your shipping info if interested and I will try and get the Beast guys to send some out to you.
    Sure thing Flex, thanks
    I actually tried to get the samples when there was the promotion going on
    but had a problem with the browser/cookies thing and never get to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47

    Sure thing Flex, thanks
    I actually tried to get the samples when there was the promotion going on
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    I'll see what I can do
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    Applied Nutriceuticals Lit-Up

    At the moment this is my favorite preworkout,
    and really what I'm interested here to see if
    Craze will take the crown against this one
    Let's break it down:

    Taste: Cherry (old) 7.5/10 Peach 7./10
    While I am NOT a fan of cherry flavored sups
    at all, and at first I didn't like this one so much
    either (wasn't offending but..) it totally grew on me.
    An acquired taste I'd say. I started to love it the more
    I used it and I found out adding just a lil but more water
    to it made it very good. That's the only reason I'm not giving
    it 8 on 10, since the new cherry is suppose to be less "strong"
    most likely that'll get a full 8.
    Peach is ok, it has some alcohol-y taste that I'm not quite
    sure about, but is ok. If you mix one scoop of each tho',
    they get surprisingly awesome try it!

    Mixability: 8/10
    It mixes well, no problems here,
    just a bit of residue but really nothing.

    Focus/Nootropic: 6.5/10
    As for right now I get the best nootropic
    effect from this one. I'm VERY sensitive to nootropics (see Ultima)
    and too much or some of them just fcuk up with my head
    instead of helping me. I wanna say what DOESN'T happend with Lit-Up: I
    don't get sleepy, paranoid, distracted, overfocused (staring at random things)
    Instead I'm very concentrated in a very natural way, and I STAY concentrated
    for the whole wo (2/3hours). It improves my aggression nicely without turning me
    into a walking weapon of mass destruction.

    Pump: 6/10
    Pumps are nothing noticeable on this one, but w/e as said
    before I care not about that.

    Energy: 9/10
    This is gonna be hard to describe as the energy you get from this
    is not a burst, not a rush that hits you fast and hard and then fades
    but instead it slowly enter your system, clearly making you feel plain stronger.
    And the *best* part is, it lasts. It lasts more than any other prewo I've tried
    and since my sessions are way too long, this is probably what makes it the best
    atm for me. Even at my last set I can still feel it working, well I can tell the difference
    when I'm not using it, so yeah, definitely.
    Good point also is NO crash at all, never experienced a crash from it,
    end up on the floor panting and almost passing out because of the great wo? Yes
    but that's what I'm after. It's a very versatile kind of energy too, I wouldn't say
    this one is for endurance more than hypertrophy, it works the same and it works well
    on all my workouts.

    Price/Serving: 7/10
    I use it at two scoops, that's also how you get the full daily
    dose of sodium DAA contained in it. Taken this way the price
    is slightly more then other prewo because one tub will only be 20
    servings but you also get the DAA not only a prewo, so it ain't bad.
    Now if you wanna lower it down a bit .. I'll welcome that

    Overall Experience:
    'nuff said I guess, this is right now my fav,
    I look forward a direct comparison with Craze as A) they are priced the same,
    but Craze (as I read around) is usually used at 1 scoop, 1.5 max, and it should
    be cheaper if that's the case, B) Craze seems to be a whole new game and of course
    I'm interested to see if it's gonna be better than my favorite.
    About the DAA in Lit-Up, in my book is a great addiction, it seems to really work well on me
    because the effects on strength seem to improve with use, alpha-male feeling,
    better mood and well, overall is just a great product that i miss when I cycle it off.
    Doesn't happen often.
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    Ive been looking arund for a good stim free product. Thanks for posting those reviews!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Ive been looking arund for a good stim free product. Thanks for posting those reviews!
    No prob bro
    for stim free you can't go wrong with Pumpbol, good stuff indeed
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    Im not a big fan of Lit Up cherry either but I may give it another try to see if it "grows" on me as well

    Thanks for the review bud!
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    Wow, sick thread, I'm in! Can tell your itching to try craze!! From my experience, it shouldn't let ya down! It's good stuff!
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    An Ultima sample I used put me to sleep too

    Excited for your thoughts on Craze, to me its the greatest discovery since I first ingested caffeine.

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    Glad to have you all here guys

    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Im not a big fan of Lit Up cherry either but I may give it another try to see if it "grows" on me as well

    Thanks for the review bud!
    Man, it totally grew on me! Like I really enjoy drinking it now with just a tad more water.

    Quote Originally Posted by evandem27 View Post
    Wow, sick thread, I'm in! Can tell your itching to try craze!! From my experience, it shouldn't let ya down! It's good stuff!
    I am indeed, I have probably 3 to 4 workouts with Pumpbol and then I'll pop it open
    I've loved all the DS products so far
    I cycle prewo constantly to keep 'em working, it'll be nice to have this one in the loop as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    An Ultima sample I used put me to sleep too

    Excited for your thoughts on Craze, to me its the greatest discovery since I first ingested caffeine.
    Yeah it was insane the sleepy feeling with that one, I couldn't believe it until I tried with/without (at just half scoop)
    for several days, the effect was repeatable every time. Big let down, I really wonder if one could benefit (since I still have 3/4 of a
    tub) of the ingredients before bed or something like that..

    Yep I'm itching badly to try Craze feedback left and right are nothing but great
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47
    Glad to have you all here guys

    Man, it totally grew on me! Like I really enjoy drinking it now with just a tad more water.

    I am indeed, I have probably 3 to 4 workouts with Pumpbol and then I'll pop it open
    I've loved all the DS products so far
    I cycle prewo constantly to keep 'em working, it'll be nice to have this one in the loop as well.

    Yeah it was insane the sleepy feeling with that one, I couldn't believe it until I tried with/without (at just half scoop)
    for several days, the effect was repeatable every time. Big let down, I really wonder if one could benefit (since I still have 3/4 of a
    tub) of the ingredients before bed or something like that..

    Yep I'm itching badly to try Craze feedback left and right are nothing but great
    Ultima makes me sleepy also. I feel strong in the gym with it but feel lethargic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    yeah it was insane the sleepy feeling with that one, I couldn't believe it until I tried with/without (at just half scoop)
    for several days, the effect was repeatable every time. Big let down, I really wonder if one could benefit (since I still have 3/4 of a
    tub) of the ingredients before bed or something like that..

    Yep I'm itching badly to try Craze feedback left and right are nothing but great
    Maybe at some point Craze + Ultima for super speed and strength?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Maybe at some point Craze + Ultima for super speed and strength?
    I mixed&matched before so I'm opened to the idea, but Ultima it was seriously making me feel like I was
    literally dragging myself thru the wo, and most important for me, it KILLED my aggression.. Man you take
    that away from me we have a problem :/ So unless Craze makes me SO hyper that I actually have to calm down
    lol, I can't see using Ultima prewo anytime soon (that would be pretty awesome tho' )

    I was under the impression that Craze wasn't much about stims, especially
    having only 80mg of caffeine x scoop, but I'm reading around some people
    really feel the stims in it, I guess is the PEA metabolites?

    Ah, just few days and I'll get on it (probably it'll fall on legs day or back..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    I mixed&matched before so I'm opened to the idea, but Ultima it was seriously making me feel like I was
    literally dragging myself thru the wo, and most important for me, it KILLED my aggression.. Man you take
    that away from me we have a problem :/ So unless Craze makes me SO hyper that I actually have to calm down
    lol, I can't see using Ultima prewo anytime soon (that would be pretty awesome tho' )

    I was under the impression that Craze wasn't much about stims, especially
    having only 80mg of caffeine x scoop, but I'm reading around some people
    really feel the stims in it, I guess is the PEA metabolites?

    Ah, just few days and I'll get on it (probably it'll fall on legs day or back..)
    The PEA makes you feel awesome. It is light on CNS stimulants(like caffeine) but they're also sympathomimetics(the different PEA structures in Craze)

    Its something else for me man, if you like volume(and I know you do) and if you respond well to Craze it will be your new favorite pre. I hear you on the Ultima though, the one time I used it I was mentally in the zone for like 30 minutes then caught myself literally falling asleep on the bench like wtf

    Craze is something else, I hope the Genomyx pre coming out soon(Protocol Evolved) surpasses it in the strength test for me though. Like PE on Power days, Craze on volume days. On Craze I'm too impatient and bust right into the next and sometimes it brings my strength down just because I can't give myself enough rest, my progress on it already has been stellar though. These 2-3 hour gym sessions are ****ing awesome on 2 scoops of Craze

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    Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    The PEA makes you feel awesome. It is light on CNS stimulants(like caffeine) but they're also sympathomimetics(the different PEA structures in Craze)

    Its something else for me man, if you like volume(and I know you do) and if you respond well to Craze it will be your new favorite pre. I hear you on the Ultima though, the one time I used it I was mentally in the zone for like 30 minutes then caught myself literally falling asleep on the bench like wtf

    Craze is something else, I hope the Genomyx pre coming out soon(Protocol Evolved) surpasses it in the strength test for me though. Like PE on Power days, Craze on volume days. On Craze I'm too impatient and bust right into the next and sometimes it brings my strength down just because I can't give myself enough rest, my progress on it already has been stellar though. These 2-3 hour gym sessions are ****ing awesome on 2 scoops of Craze
    Stop it! It's already hard not to try it right away lol
    but I need to stop leaving tubs open and yes you know, I do like volume indeed bro

    I read on FB about the new Genomyx prewo, and I'm looking forward to it big time
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    Stop it! It's already hard not to try it right away lol
    but I need to stop leaving tubs open and yes you know, I do like volume indeed bro

    I read on FB about the new Genomyx prewo, and I'm looking forward to it big time
    and always up for beta-testing and logging, I do trust Genomyx, no doubt
    I know of one member getting an opp to try it(even before me wtf) but if I'll aware the big guy upstairs that you'd be an excellent test for pre workouts. I myself love high volume training and beating the **** out of myself each day so I hope Protocol Evolved can help me shine there

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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    Glad to have you all here guys

    Man, it totally grew on me! Like I really enjoy drinking it now with just a tad more water.
    If price is a issue with Lit-Up, feel free to shoot me a message and I will give you my discount code for it

    The price isnt that bad I do think considering all the solid ingredients (TMG, DAA, Sam-E, etc). Only thing I wish was it had more serving per tub as I use it daily. On workout days for pre workout and off days I just drink two scoops in the morning when I wake up.

    Again don't hesitate to hit me up if you need a discount to get more
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    If price is a issue with Lit-Up, feel free to shoot me a message and I will give you my discount code for it

    The price isnt that bad I do think considering all the solid ingredients (TMG, DAA, Sam-E, etc). Only thing I wish was it had more serving per tub as I use it daily. On workout days for pre workout and off days I just drink two scoops in the morning when I wake up.

    Again don't hesitate to hit me up if you need a discount to get more
    Thanks man, much appreciated I don't know tho' how the discount code
    could work here in EU :/ would be nice if it was because well regardless,
    I don't see Lit-Up leaving my shelf regardless, like I said atm is my fav
    and I do cycle prewo, I can't imagine not getting more of it anytime soon

    I do take it everyday the 6 days on and lol the 1 day off
    seemed silly to stop the DAA for ONE day off

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    Sorry AK, I checked up on getting some product to you in Italy and they said it wold cost too much and might not even make it to you

    But for anyone else living in the US, check this out FL3X MAGNUM GTFIH
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Sorry AK, I checked up on getting some product to you in Italy and they said it wold cost too much and might not even make it to you

    But for anyone else living in the US, check this out FL3X MAGNUM GTFIH
    No problem bro and thanks for trying
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    No problem bro and thanks for trying
    For sure man. I'll keep you in mind though, and if I have any extra samples floating around next month I will try and get some out to you.
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    Driven Sport Craze: son of a b#@ch..


    Ok, first scoop of Craze. 1 scoop, flat.

    Nothing else. No creatine, no beta ala, no multi etc..
    Nothing but that one scoop 40 minutes prior the wo.

    15 minutes later my 10gr of BCAA bulk

    Sipped 2scoop of xtend during the wo as usual
    Traps/UpperBack/Shoulders day

    WO started at 11.06 AM and ended at 2.21 PM

    I will remember this day as the best workout I've ever had
    in 10+ years of training. No sh#t.

    I will get to the full review later on. I'm speechless right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    Ok, first scoop of Craze. 1 scoop, flat.


    I will remember this day as the best workout I've ever had
    in 10+ years of training. No sh#t.

    I will get to the full review later on. I'm speechless right now
    Craze is amazing.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AutoKal47 View Post
    Ok, first scoop of Craze. 1 scoop, flat.

    Nothing else. No creatine, no beta ala, no multi etc..
    Nothing but that one scoop 40 minutes prior the wo.

    15 minutes later my 10gr of BCAA bulk

    Sipped 2scoop of xtend during the wo as usual
    Traps/UpperBack/Shoulders day

    WO started at 11.06 AM and ended at 2.21 PM

    I will remember this day as the best workout I've ever had
    in 10+ years of training. No sh#t.

    I will get to the full review later on. I'm speechless right now
    That was 1 ****ing scoop too...

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    ^^ Bro 1 scoop is ALL THAT IS NEEDED, I agree this stuff is a little too good to be natural LOL. I am still in a good mood, in this about 24 hours from last dose.
    doing my own thang!
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    Damn it I need to get a tub of Craze for the New years sale now lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Damn it I need to get a tub of Craze for the New years sale now lol
    Do it, if you react to it the same I did/do is gonna really be a new beginning in the gym.

    To me Craze is a league on its own, the best prewo released to date.
    With that said, I will keep this 3d 100% honest and fair and keep trying the products
    I planned on trying with a completely open mind.

    and we start today with the following:

    BPI 1MR 1,3 FREE Version

    I have a sample of it, so I will take it today that is Biceps/Tris/Abs
    I train high volume on Tris on chest day but I need to improve my
    strength on those because they're holding me back on bench press,
    so I hit them today as well doing a bit of opposite wo on arm
    while focusing more on biceps.
    Abs routing is quite long and heavy, we'll see how this one performs.
    Never tried before as I stopped doing 1,3 years ago (and never again)
    I'm glad companies started to come out with 1,3 free versions and new product
    I wouldn't have tried it otherwise.
    Next one, will be AX UltraReps won it with the giveaway and just received it two days ago.

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