AK's Preworkouts DeathMatch! Craze, SPMax, Lit-Up, Pumpbol, Ultima, etc..

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So I just got my tub of DS Craze finally,

still sealed but I will pop it open soon enough.

Since I have a bunch of different prewo (and I tried *a lot* more)
I decided to do this deathmatch, mentally run thru them and just write down
my experience with them.
Also to do a small review of Craze since it seems a whole new game in
prewo dept. and compare it with my favorites prewo so far.
Would have been nice to add also Supersize and UltraReps (I won them)
but I didn't receive 'em yet, maybe I'll add them later.

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Disclaimer: no pimping is gonna happen in this 3d, only real, honest
opinion

So let's start with the one I've been using this month,
almost over:

Thermolife PumpBol
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Pbol is stim free, it became my favorite stim free
prewo.

Taste 7/10: It taste ok for me, doesn't bother me,
is not the best tasting prewo ever but I have no
problem keeping it in my mouth and squish it around
every sip (that's how you're suppose to take it).
It's a bit sour and it numb by tongue a bit but w/e

Mixability 9/10:
Keeping in mind that it has nitrates
in it, it mixes pretty well, quick shaking and it's done,
really lil residue at the bottom which you easily swallow
with the last sip

Focus/Nootropic effect 6/10: is not meant to
have much of a nootropic effect, this product
doesn't really help with focus BUT, with that said,
the crazy pumps that gives you do have - while not
a nootropic effect - a good drive and motivation as
consequence.

Pump 10/10: I never cared much about pumps,
never hunted down products that give you pump really
not I tried a lot of pump oriented ones, but
this thing is no joke: pumps on Pbol are just insane,
never experienced anything like it before.
Do they last for hours like TL claims? Hell yes!
They last the whole damn day and more, on leg day
is just painful for days (and I'm used to DOMS and i actually want
them every wo). But the pumps with this one are not just aesthetic
at least not for me: what I feel is a deeper muscle stimulation
since the very first warmup set. This is why it became my fav
stim free pwo and one of my top5 overall.

Energy 6.5/10: I'm spoiled with prewo, I train fasted and
I can tell the difference between a prewo that gives you actual
energy, it's a very important part of a prewo for me.
Pbol being stim free lacks of that energy that others give me,
same goes for endurance, doesn't really help with that, despite this,
once again, the muscle stimulation is so strong that somewhat helps
going on, at the same time pumps can get really painful

Price/Servings 8/10: I use this at 1 scoop,there are 42 servings meaning, it last a month and a half
for me working out 6 days a week. Pretty good if you ask me
and another thing to be notices is the packaging is amazing
and it comes with a mini plastic tub so you can bring your serving
in your pocket without taking the big tub with you.
I tried dosing it at 1.5 and 2 scoops, in both cases the effects
didn't change, at 2 scoops nitrates seem to give me a lil bit of headache.
Nice thing about stim free, you don't really need to overdose them.

Overall experience: Very good product, I like other products fromTL and this one is indeed very cost effective, stackable, and the perfect choice
for me when taking time off stims. I always keep a tub of it on the shelf.


all for now, I'll go on later ;)
 

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Nice review. I've never tried pump-bol but I've tried a similar PWO dosed higher in nitrates (creatine and BCAA), pump aspect is off the charts. I didn't recognize any tangible benefits beyond a pump unfortunately.
 
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I've never tried creatine nitrates, Pbol has beta ala nitrates and arginine i think,
like i said, it does lack in energy and focus really but the muscle stimulation is indeed
real, it last a ridiculous amount of time and considering I use to cut the prewo completely
when going off stims, this one is nice. I added in past 150/200mg of caffeine to it
and it does the trick. Cheap, effective.
 

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I've never tried creatine nitrates, Pbol has beta ala nitrates and arginine i think,
like i said, it does lack in energy and focus really but the muscle stimulation is indeed
real, it last a ridiculous amount of time and considering I use to cut the prewo completely
when going off stims, this one is nice. I added in past 150/200mg of caffeine to it
and it does the trick. Cheap, effective.
Glad it's working for you. I was able to put on a little size with the product I was using over the course of the last year. The pump attribute would last maybe 2-4 hours post workout, how that translated to other types of training, i.e. conditioning routines/sports was negligible at best from my perspective. I'm currently using Craze (no pimping bought it myself) and it's an entirely new stim experience and the best yet in my opinion. Looking forward to your thoughts on Craze.
 
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Gaspari SuperPump Max

I took more than one tub to understand this one
at first I wasn't too fond of it, but later on I discovered
the reason was because I was used to 1,3, which yes,
it works but f#ck that sideways.. I don't do 1,3 anymore,
I hate it.

So here we go

Taste: Grape 7.5 - Watermelon 8/10
Grape tastes pretty much like every other grape
sup, which I like.
Watermelon is pretty awesome, I'm a fan of
watermelon flavor tho', but this one is pretty good

Mixability: 7/10
It mixes ok, you need to shake it tho
but if you shake it too much it gets a bit foamy
which I hate. 7 tho' because there's no residue

Focus/Nootropic: 7/10
Not really where it shines, but it does give you
some sort of tunnel vision, I'll explain better later in
the energy part, but it does help with focus indeed.
Nothing crazy, but good

Pump: 7/10
Not much of a pump product for me at least,
once again, I don't really care I wouldn't even
put this as a "category" but I did because of Pbol
This one gives you some vascularity but is more
due to the energy that gives you, driving you to push more
than the product itself.

Energy: 8.5/10
Best part of the product.
The energy is jittery free, and it's quite a lot
A sup that you can indeed "feel" coming, it find it
great for strength and hypertrophy workouts,
it's the best you have to "call" a massive effort, ya know?
A short burst of power, that's when I find this one giving the
best performance, it does help with endurance too, but
more for big weights than higher/lighter reps
The energy lasts for all my 2+/3 hours workout
and I get no crash after.
It's pretty steady overall but once you know it
and pay attention you can feel the "curve" of the energy
going down a bit during time. I hit quite some PR on this one.

Price/Servings: 8.5/10
I use 2 scoops and even so, the product is not only well priced,
but I can't remember NOT finding a deal somewhere on this one
and you always end up paying it a lot less, and for a very effective product.
I'll admit it, it's a pretty good bonus

Overall Experience:
Prewo are not all the same.
Meaning - beside the obvious - some seem to be cut
for a specific kind of wo, or a situation
For this one I took 3 tubs to really understand it
but once I did it, it became one of my usual prewo (since I cycle them all the time)
I actually keep track of when I'm gonna use it vs workout program, because like I mentioned
i did hit some good PR on this one exactly due the most noticeable effects on hypertrophy
and power wo.
Never an issue with stomach or anything like that with it.
 
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Looking forward to your thoughts on Craze.
 
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Omega Ultima

This one use to me my fav stim free..
lately I found out it causes me such an odd
reaction that I can't use it anymore

let's get to it

Taste: 5/10
Better than the previous version but still
kinda bad. I'm not a fan of lemon/lime flavors
but - just to compare another one - Pbol
tastes better.
Especially considering that you're suppose to hold it
in your mouth before swallowing, well it's pretty bad lol

Mixability: 7/10
It mixes ok, it dissolves pretty quickly and
adding more water makes the flavor a bit better,
no residue

Focus/Nootropic: 2/10
Here's the problem.
Without getting into details the nootropic matrix on this one
is *hella potent*, too potent. Too weird.
In my opinion NOT meant for workouts. I use to take HALF
scoop of it and it was already quite a lot, why? Because the thing
makes me sleepy and "slowed down". You focus, but you focus on
EVERYTHING around you, not your workout. I focus on dust in the corner,
a fly in the room, a random thought.. But this last run, working out
fasted in the morning - while I usually have no prob waking up and be
full power within 40 min - after taking it had the hardest time getting started,
keeping concentration and the whole wo felt like I was dragging myself around.
I managed to have good workouts DESPITE it. I tried different dosing and timing
effect is the same.
The most annoying thing is this: it completely killed my aggression. You take
that out of me, I'm done. I couldn't care about the world when on this and couldn't
for the life of me reach that mind/muscle connection. Plus the more I took, the worse
it was, even in split doses.

Pump: 5/10
Not a pump product really, never noticed - nor expected - pumps from it.

Energy: 6/10
If you take a look at the formula, this thing is top-notch,
it has ALL the good stuff and more, I think it has the longest
ingredient list of any other prewo, but really it might be a bit
too much, or it might not be the one for me because well,
it ain't working that good.. Being stim free it lack on that energy rush
we're used to get from stimmed prewo, and there is really no much in
the "performance enhancement" either, how could it be when it makes you
sleepy? The only thing I might have noticed is overtime you get some endurance
going on but it's more like dragging yourself because you feel in this odd state
of mind.

Price/Servings: 9/10
It's not cheap at first glance, but the 40 servings EASILY turn into 80 servings for me
and the product has so many ingredients, dosed to high that you'd save on
probably 70% of your sups with this.. Would have been great, if it worked lol
Nonetheless, price/serving ratio is great on paper.

Overall Experience:
I use to mix half scoop of Ultima with pretty much any stimmed prewo
before (version V2) for concentration boost, I've never noticed the bad
sleepy effect that I'm getting with the V3 version, don't know if the formula
changed that much, or is me reacting differently for some reason, bottom line is
for me this one became a big no-no.
Maybe before bed when you have hard time sleeping, but def not prewo.
 
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VPX No Shotgun MHF-1

I liked this one quite a bit in past,
for several reason, but I built tolerance to
it quickly and despite I cycle prewo even month
or two, despite I took a year+ off from this one
it kinda stopped being effective like it was at first

Taste: Watermelon 8.5/10 Lime 2/10 Grape 7/10
Watermelon is one of the best tasting sup, I'd drink it
just for how much I liked it, grape taste like every other grape
sup, maybe a tad better, a fan of both, lemon/lime is just gawdawuful bad
I tried once and tossed the whole tub for how bad it tastes.

Mixability: 6/10
The product can be considered "old" somehow,
I think VPX came out with a new prewo recently,
this requires some work to be mixed well, and the scoops
are pretty damn big, a lot of powder and if you use it at
2 scoops like me it requires a lot of water to mix,
but there's one thing I've always hated about it:
when you shake it it gets *foamy*, like thick a## foamy
and the foam is nasty, you can toss it but you will toss quite some
product along with it, so whether you wait for it to die
or you swallow and try to keep the stuff down :/

Focus/Nootropic: 6.5/10
Not a nootropic/concentration oriented product,
it give you some "drive" but is more due to the stims
than some actual action on your brain, I wouldn't pick this one
if one's looking at that on a prewo

Pump: 7.5/10

Pumps on this are there, better than SPMax in this, by lil but better.
Especially vascularity, nothing crazy like Pbol but definitely it makes your
blood flowing nicely and pump you up, especially during wo and it also
kicks in pretty freaking fast.

Energy: 8.5/10
Best part of the product imo. NoShotgun at 2 scoops
use to give me plenty of stimmed energy, jittery, nervous, snappy
exactly what you need sometimes, I'm not after that kind of prewo anymore
but energy-wise, this one delivers big time.
Again, similar to SPMax it's great for hypertrophy and rage-driven kinda
workouts, increases my aggression (big time actually) and
you can feel bursts of energy during workouts. It also help with endurance,
but make sure you time it well because as opposed to SPMax this one will give you
a crash when it fades away, pretty noticeably too.

Price/Serving: 6.5/10
For today's standards is a bit pricey, stimmed prewo
prices went down a bit with the "concentrated", considering I needed
to run this at 2 full scoops is not the best deal.

Overall Experience:
NoShotgun was one of the first prewo I use to use regularly
but as mentioned in the beginning, I built tolerance to it pretty
quickly, I stopped using it at all for more than a year, maybe two
and recently got a tub, I was running it at 3 scoops and got really
lil out of it, it just doesn't work on me anymore.
One very good thing to say about it tho', is that I noticed
I *always* lean out with on it, even recently - despite the other
effects were "watered down" - probably because that touch of Redline in it,
dunno, but it gives plenty of vascularity and definitely helps with fat loss.
Crashes are not too bad, but they are there, nothing compared to the 1,3 but
still.. I remember working quite well with the No Synth, that happened years ago
but I remember thinking they were more like one product split in two tubs.
 
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I would like to see some Beast Mode in this review :) pm me your shipping info if interested and I will try and get the Beast guys to send some out to you.
Sure thing Flex, thanks
I actually tried to get the samples when there was the promotion going on
but had a problem with the browser/cookies thing and never get to it
 
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Sure thing Flex, thanks
I actually tried to get the samples when there was the promotion going on
but had a problem with the browser/cookies thing and never get to it
I'll see what I can do
 
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Applied Nutriceuticals Lit-Up

At the moment this is my favorite preworkout,
and really what I'm interested here to see if
Craze will take the crown against this one
Let's break it down:

Taste: Cherry (old) 7.5/10 Peach 7./10
While I am NOT a fan of cherry flavored sups
at all, and at first I didn't like this one so much
either (wasn't offending but..) it totally grew on me.
An acquired taste I'd say. I started to love it the more
I used it and I found out adding just a lil but more water
to it made it very good. That's the only reason I'm not giving
it 8 on 10, since the new cherry is suppose to be less "strong"
most likely that'll get a full 8.
Peach is ok, it has some alcohol-y taste that I'm not quite
sure about, but is ok. If you mix one scoop of each tho',
they get surprisingly awesome :D try it!

Mixability: 8/10
It mixes well, no problems here,
just a bit of residue but really nothing.

Focus/Nootropic: 6.5/10
As for right now I get the best nootropic
effect from this one. I'm VERY sensitive to nootropics (see Ultima)
and too much or some of them just fcuk up with my head
instead of helping me. I wanna say what DOESN'T happend with Lit-Up: I
don't get sleepy, paranoid, distracted, overfocused (staring at random things)
Instead I'm very concentrated in a very natural way, and I STAY concentrated
for the whole wo (2/3hours). It improves my aggression nicely without turning me
into a walking weapon of mass destruction.

Pump: 6/10
Pumps are nothing noticeable on this one, but w/e as said
before I care not about that.

Energy: 9/10
This is gonna be hard to describe as the energy you get from this
is not a burst, not a rush that hits you fast and hard and then fades
but instead it slowly enter your system, clearly making you feel plain stronger.
And the *best* part is, it lasts. It lasts more than any other prewo I've tried
and since my sessions are way too long, this is probably what makes it the best
atm for me. Even at my last set I can still feel it working, well I can tell the difference
when I'm not using it, so yeah, definitely.
Good point also is NO crash at all, never experienced a crash from it,
end up on the floor panting and almost passing out because of the great wo? Yes
but that's what I'm after. It's a very versatile kind of energy too, I wouldn't say
this one is for endurance more than hypertrophy, it works the same and it works well
on all my workouts.

Price/Serving: 7/10
I use it at two scoops, that's also how you get the full daily
dose of sodium DAA contained in it. Taken this way the price
is slightly more then other prewo because one tub will only be 20
servings but you also get the DAA not only a prewo, so it ain't bad.
Now if you wanna lower it down a bit :D.. I'll welcome that

Overall Experience:
'nuff said I guess, this is right now my fav,
I look forward a direct comparison with Craze as A) they are priced the same,
but Craze (as I read around) is usually used at 1 scoop, 1.5 max, and it should
be cheaper if that's the case, B) Craze seems to be a whole new game and of course
I'm interested to see if it's gonna be better than my favorite.
About the DAA in Lit-Up, in my book is a great addiction, it seems to really work well on me
because the effects on strength seem to improve with use, alpha-male feeling,
better mood and well, overall is just a great product that i miss when I cycle it off.
Doesn't happen often.
 
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Ive been looking arund for a good stim free product. Thanks for posting those reviews!
 
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Im not a big fan of Lit Up cherry either but I may give it another try to see if it "grows" on me as well ;)

Thanks for the review bud!
 
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Wow, sick thread, I'm in! Can tell your itching to try craze!! From my experience, it shouldn't let ya down! It's good stuff!
 
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An Ultima sample I used put me to sleep too :eek:

Excited for your thoughts on Craze, to me its the greatest discovery since I first ingested caffeine.
 
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Glad to have you all here guys :)

Im not a big fan of Lit Up cherry either but I may give it another try to see if it "grows" on me as well ;)

Thanks for the review bud!
Man, it totally grew on me! Like I really enjoy drinking it now with just a tad more water.

Wow, sick thread, I'm in! Can tell your itching to try craze!! From my experience, it shouldn't let ya down! It's good stuff!
I am indeed, I have probably 3 to 4 workouts with Pumpbol and then I'll pop it open :)
I've loved all the DS products so far
I cycle prewo constantly to keep 'em working, it'll be nice to have this one in the loop as well.

An Ultima sample I used put me to sleep too :eek:

Excited for your thoughts on Craze, to me its the greatest discovery since I first ingested caffeine.
Yeah it was insane the sleepy feeling with that one, I couldn't believe it until I tried with/without (at just half scoop)
for several days, the effect was repeatable every time. Big let down, I really wonder if one could benefit (since I still have 3/4 of a
tub) of the ingredients before bed or something like that..

Yep I'm itching badly to try Craze :) feedback left and right are nothing but great
 
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Glad to have you all here guys :)

Man, it totally grew on me! Like I really enjoy drinking it now with just a tad more water.

I am indeed, I have probably 3 to 4 workouts with Pumpbol and then I'll pop it open :)
I've loved all the DS products so far
I cycle prewo constantly to keep 'em working, it'll be nice to have this one in the loop as well.

Yeah it was insane the sleepy feeling with that one, I couldn't believe it until I tried with/without (at just half scoop)
for several days, the effect was repeatable every time. Big let down, I really wonder if one could benefit (since I still have 3/4 of a
tub) of the ingredients before bed or something like that..

Yep I'm itching badly to try Craze :) feedback left and right are nothing but great
Ultima makes me sleepy also. I feel strong in the gym with it but feel lethargic.
 
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yeah it was insane the sleepy feeling with that one, I couldn't believe it until I tried with/without (at just half scoop)
for several days, the effect was repeatable every time. Big let down, I really wonder if one could benefit (since I still have 3/4 of a
tub) of the ingredients before bed or something like that..

Yep I'm itching badly to try Craze :) feedback left and right are nothing but great
Maybe at some point Craze + Ultima for super speed and strength? :eek:
 
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Maybe at some point Craze + Ultima for super speed and strength? :eek:
I mixed&matched before so I'm opened to the idea, but Ultima it was seriously making me feel like I was
literally dragging myself thru the wo, and most important for me, it KILLED my aggression.. Man you take
that away from me we have a problem :/ So unless Craze makes me SO hyper that I actually have to calm down
lol, I can't see using Ultima prewo anytime soon (that would be pretty awesome tho' :D)

I was under the impression that Craze wasn't much about stims, especially
having only 80mg of caffeine x scoop, but I'm reading around some people
really feel the stims in it, I guess is the PEA metabolites?

Ah, just few days and I'll get on it (probably it'll fall on legs day or back..)
 
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I mixed&matched before so I'm opened to the idea, but Ultima it was seriously making me feel like I was
literally dragging myself thru the wo, and most important for me, it KILLED my aggression.. Man you take
that away from me we have a problem :/ So unless Craze makes me SO hyper that I actually have to calm down
lol, I can't see using Ultima prewo anytime soon (that would be pretty awesome tho' :D)

I was under the impression that Craze wasn't much about stims, especially
having only 80mg of caffeine x scoop, but I'm reading around some people
really feel the stims in it, I guess is the PEA metabolites?

Ah, just few days and I'll get on it (probably it'll fall on legs day or back..)
The PEA makes you feel awesome. It is light on CNS stimulants(like caffeine) but they're also sympathomimetics(the different PEA structures in Craze)

Its something else for me man, if you like volume(and I know you do) and if you respond well to Craze it will be your new favorite pre. I hear you on the Ultima though, the one time I used it I was mentally in the zone for like 30 minutes then caught myself literally falling asleep on the bench like wtf

Craze is something else, I hope the Genomyx pre coming out soon(Protocol Evolved) surpasses it in the strength test for me though. Like PE on Power days, Craze on volume days. On Craze I'm too impatient and bust right into the next and sometimes it brings my strength down just because I can't give myself enough rest, my progress on it already has been stellar though. These 2-3 hour gym sessions are ****ing awesome on 2 scoops of Craze
 
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The PEA makes you feel awesome. It is light on CNS stimulants(like caffeine) but they're also sympathomimetics(the different PEA structures in Craze)

Its something else for me man, if you like volume(and I know you do) and if you respond well to Craze it will be your new favorite pre. I hear you on the Ultima though, the one time I used it I was mentally in the zone for like 30 minutes then caught myself literally falling asleep on the bench like wtf

Craze is something else, I hope the Genomyx pre coming out soon(Protocol Evolved) surpasses it in the strength test for me though. Like PE on Power days, Craze on volume days. On Craze I'm too impatient and bust right into the next and sometimes it brings my strength down just because I can't give myself enough rest, my progress on it already has been stellar though. These 2-3 hour gym sessions are ****ing awesome on 2 scoops of Craze
Stop it! :D It's already hard not to try it right away lol
but I need to stop leaving tubs open :D and yes you know, I do like volume indeed bro ;)

I read on FB about the new Genomyx prewo, and I'm looking forward to it big time
and always up for beta-testing and logging, I do trust Genomyx, no doubt
 
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Stop it! :D It's already hard not to try it right away lol
but I need to stop leaving tubs open :D and yes you know, I do like volume indeed bro ;)

I read on FB about the new Genomyx prewo, and I'm looking forward to it big time
and always up for beta-testing and logging, I do trust Genomyx, no doubt
I know of one member getting an opp to try it(even before me wtf) but if I'll aware the big guy upstairs that you'd be an excellent test for pre workouts. I myself love high volume training and beating the **** out of myself each day so I hope Protocol Evolved can help me shine there
 
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Glad to have you all here guys :)

Man, it totally grew on me! Like I really enjoy drinking it now with just a tad more water.
If price is a issue with Lit-Up, feel free to shoot me a message and I will give you my discount code for it ;)

The price isnt that bad I do think considering all the solid ingredients (TMG, DAA, Sam-E, etc). Only thing I wish was it had more serving per tub as I use it daily. On workout days for pre workout and off days I just drink two scoops in the morning when I wake up.

Again don't hesitate to hit me up if you need a discount to get more ;)
 
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If price is a issue with Lit-Up, feel free to shoot me a message and I will give you my discount code for it ;)

The price isnt that bad I do think considering all the solid ingredients (TMG, DAA, Sam-E, etc). Only thing I wish was it had more serving per tub as I use it daily. On workout days for pre workout and off days I just drink two scoops in the morning when I wake up.

Again don't hesitate to hit me up if you need a discount to get more ;)
Thanks man, much appreciated :) I don't know tho' how the discount code
could work here in EU :/ would be nice if it was because well regardless,
I don't see Lit-Up leaving my shelf regardless, like I said atm is my fav
and I do cycle prewo, I can't imagine not getting more of it anytime soon

I do take it everyday the 6 days on and lol the 1 day off
seemed silly to stop the DAA for ONE day off :D

Yeah some more servings would be a great plus
 
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No problem bro and thanks for trying :)
For sure man. I'll keep you in mind though, and if I have any extra samples floating around next month I will try and get some out to you.
 
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Driven Sport Craze: son of a b#@ch..

Ok, first scoop of Craze. 1 scoop, flat.

Nothing else. No creatine, no beta ala, no multi etc..
Nothing but that one scoop 40 minutes prior the wo.

15 minutes later my 10gr of BCAA bulk

Sipped 2scoop of xtend during the wo as usual
Traps/UpperBack/Shoulders day

WO started at 11.06 AM and ended at 2.21 PM

I will remember this day as the best workout I've ever had
in 10+ years of training. No sh#t.

I will get to the full review later on. I'm speechless right now
 
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Ok, first scoop of Craze. 1 scoop, flat.


I will remember this day as the best workout I've ever had
in 10+ years of training. No sh#t.

I will get to the full review later on. I'm speechless right now
Craze is amazing.....
 
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Ok, first scoop of Craze. 1 scoop, flat.

Nothing else. No creatine, no beta ala, no multi etc..
Nothing but that one scoop 40 minutes prior the wo.

15 minutes later my 10gr of BCAA bulk

Sipped 2scoop of xtend during the wo as usual
Traps/UpperBack/Shoulders day

WO started at 11.06 AM and ended at 2.21 PM

I will remember this day as the best workout I've ever had
in 10+ years of training. No sh#t.

I will get to the full review later on. I'm speechless right now
That was 1 ****ing scoop too...
 
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^^ Bro 1 scoop is ALL THAT IS NEEDED, I agree this stuff is a little too good to be natural LOL. I am still in a good mood, in this about 24 hours from last dose.
 
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Damn it I need to get a tub of Craze for the New years sale now lol
 
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Damn it I need to get a tub of Craze for the New years sale now lol
Do it, if you react to it the same I did/do is gonna really be a new beginning in the gym.

To me Craze is a league on its own, the best prewo released to date.
With that said, I will keep this 3d 100% honest and fair and keep trying the products
I planned on trying with a completely open mind.

and we start today with the following:

BPI 1MR 1,3 FREE Version

I have a sample of it, so I will take it today that is Biceps/Tris/Abs
I train high volume on Tris on chest day but I need to improve my
strength on those because they're holding me back on bench press,
so I hit them today as well doing a bit of opposite wo on arm
while focusing more on biceps.
Abs routing is quite long and heavy, we'll see how this one performs.
Never tried before as I stopped doing 1,3 years ago (and never again)
I'm glad companies started to come out with 1,3 free versions and new product
I wouldn't have tried it otherwise.
Next one, will be AX UltraReps won it with the giveaway and just received it two days ago.

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Ok workout's over for today too
here's the report on BPI 1MR "The Original", meaning 1,3DMAA free

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BPI 1MR (sample)


Taste: 4/10 (Lime)
I don't like lemon/lime sups to begin with
unfortunately the sample I was sent was lime,
and it tasted pretty bad to me, not much at first
but the aftertaste was pretty horrible.

Mixability: 7.5/10
Mixed very well, no residue at all
a lil bit of foam (which I hate) but it wasn't much

Focus/Nootropic: 6.5/10
There is some help with "drive" but
is more the stimmed energy than a nootropic effect.
Not really concentration but more rage driven stubborness
which can be useful at times. Thing is, is kinda weak
I wouldn't expect to kick me in the ass in a bad day
and get me moving. At least at one serving.

Energy/Recovery/Endurance: 6.5/10
I was expecting the infamous stim slap from this one,
especially considering I've been ('cept yesterday that I took
1 scoop of Craze) completely stim free for over a month.
Energy rush arrived but it wasn't strong, hits pretty fast tho'
After not even 10min I felt it, typical stim "wave", jittery,
nervous but not too much, I didn't feel overstimulated in a bad
way despite the 300mg of caffeine in it (way too much imho), so it's a good point.
At first it got me hitting the weight earlier than I planned
which again is good. Effect lasted a lil more than half my wo
session (I have very long sessions to be fair), triceps went
great, good energy, good recovery, it did helped me
a bit with the recovery but half way thru the biceps
I started to feel it fading, and the "slope" has been pretty
steep. Didn't like that.
I'm infamous for being stubborn and never let a wo go down
unless I'm done, so I went on and finished all my routines for
biceps and then abs without skipping any sets or lowering my
usual weight. Now, today was a low volume day, if used on one
of my really heavy days (any of the other 5 in the week) it would
have been pretty hard not to.
Head started to feel heavy near the end of the abs session and
a *major* crash hit me few minutes after the wo.
I mean major crash, the kind of crash that would be ok
if the energy before was let's say twice as strong for twice
the time.
I crash to oblivion myself with the intensity of my workouts,
I couldn't use a product that adds such crash on top of it.
I guess the product did rely a lot on 1,3 for the energy, I can
understand that, but I hate 1,3.
So overall the energy was kinda weak, I finished my wo
*despite* the product instead of thank to it.
I can see it being good enough for short workouts,
definitely not for me

Pump: 4/10
Noticed no pump whatsoever on this one

Price/Serving: na
This was a 1 serving sample,
I'd probably use two scoops at least of this
to get the energy I get from others but I couldn't
stand the crash at once, left alone at two..
I think is priced in the range of the others
concentrated prewo but i find it less effective
so, yeah I'll leave it at na.

Overall Experience:
Not a fan, big a## crash for some
very jittery energy, I can get that with plain
caffeine at much cheaper cost.
Unfortunate timing indeed because I tried this right after
Craze, but I really did my best to keep it objective
without doing a direct comparison, just comparing
to the other products, it just wouldn't be fair to compare it to Craze.
I wouldn't buy this one.
 
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Do it, if you react to it the same I did/do is gonna really be a new beginning in the gym.

To me Craze is a league on its own, the best prewo released to date.
With that said, I will keep this 3d 100% honest and fair and keep trying the products
I planned on trying with a completely open mind.

and we start today with the following:

BPI 1MR 1,3 FREE Version

I have a sample of it, so I will take it today that is Biceps/Tris/Abs
I train high volume on Tris on chest day but I need to improve my
strength on those because they're holding me back on bench press,
so I hit them today as well doing a bit of opposite wo on arm
while focusing more on biceps.
Abs routing is quite long and heavy, we'll see how this one performs.
Never tried before as I stopped doing 1,3 years ago (and never again)
I'm glad companies started to come out with 1,3 free versions and new product
I wouldn't have tried it otherwise.
Next one, will be AX UltraReps won it with the giveaway and just received it two days ago.

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Checking in to see how UltraReps worked out for you :)

Loving the details so far on the reviews, keep the good work up!!
 
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Quick update, today was legs - destruction - day,
I was SO tempted to.. but I did stick to the plan and tried
AX Ultra Reps, at 1 and 1/2 scoop (hey, it was leg day, after two days stims..)
later on the review :)
 
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Here we go with the review of

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AX Ultra Reps

I went to 1 scoop and a half,
since the test it was about to take
was legs day, and being this one stim free
it did quite a nice job!
But let me start with the..

Taste: 8.5/10
There you go, the refreshing wild berry tastes pretty damn good!
And let me tell you I do NOT like berries flavored sups as a general
rule; this one was a real nice surprise.
Doesn't only taste good, but the texture is very nice,
totally unexpected, mixed with water it comes out
"silky", it does have a texture instead of being just colored
water and for me it was quite nice.
I'd give it 9 on 10 really but I just don't like berries :D

Mixability: 6.5/10
I don't really care about the mixability but to be fair,
the label says to mix for 30 seconds, now mixing for 30seconds straight
is quite some shaking lol, i did it and despite that
there was some noticeable residue, I think is one of the ingredients
that doesn't solve, like I said, as long as the ingredient makes the
product better, who cares. Taste was super nice and a lil bit of water
with the last sip gets the residue down.

Focus/Nootropic: 6.5/10
Doesn't seem to be a nootropic and focus-oriented
product really, I haven't noticed any direct effect on
my concentration, but I didn't even notice any side effect
in this field. I don't think the product aim at the focus,
there is some "drive" going on but is due to the overall energy
I think.

Energy: 7/10
Keeping in mind that is a stim free, the energy is pretty nice!
You don't have a "rush", and you don't really feel it coming,
but during the workout you can totally feel "tapping on its energy".
I'll tell you more, the kind of energy that this product gives has
a specific flavor: despite the name I feel like it's better for low reps/high volume than
for light, high reps/burn sessions.
There's no crash and that's nice, obviously is a stim free so the energy compared
to some of the stimmed prewo will not be as much, but at the same time
it gave me MORE than some other stimmed prewo, which is I think a first.
Defintely the best part of the product. Very clean energy, today
weights went up on squats, hack and front squats and leg curls.
It's fair to say I'm running the swole stack and I had an overall increase
in strength for the past 10/15 days, but still, weights don't lie.

Recovery/Endurance: 6/10

I wanted to put this one separately because it was better
to differentiate. While the energy is good, this one doesn't seem
to help with recovery nor endurance.
Time between sets were the same for me, actually towards the end
of the session I noticed a bit slower recovery, but probably also due
to the higher volume on pretty much every exercise like I mentioned before.
Still, I didn't notice help in this field.

Pump: 5/10
Didn't notice any pump to be honest.

Price/Serving: NA
Won the tub, I don't actually know how much is the product
priced.

Overall experience:
I haven't tried a lot of stim free prewo, but this one
is actually pretty good at delivering energy without stims.
Tastes good and it's a nice product to cycle between stimmed prewo
(or for whoever doesn't like stims) that still delivers an increase in performance.
I wouldn't use it for long sessions or like I said high reps days, but
hypertrophy and/or power, sure.
Overall a good product, very enjoyable :)
 
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Thanks for the review buddy! Very detailed and clean! Like your honesty and do really think that your reviews, all of em , will be a good source€to go to for many users when they are about to buy a new product!

A quesion though about UltraReps... When did you take it ? :) How far between the intake and the training ? Just curious and I'm not trying to ruin your review or anything.. But for me, UltraReps works best when supplementet around 45 min before workout..

Again! thanks for all the review and keep up the good work :) Really enjoyed reading all of your reviews in this thread!

Take care buddy!
 
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Thanks for the review buddy! Very detailed and clean! Like your honesty and do really think that your reviews, all of em , will be a good source€to go to for many users when they are about to buy a new product!

A quesion though about UltraReps... When did you take it ? :) How far between the intake and the training ? Just curious and I'm not trying to ruin your review or anything.. But for me, UltraReps works best when supplementet around 45 min before workout..

Again! thanks for all the review and keep up the good work :) Really enjoyed reading all of your reviews in this thread!

Take care buddy!
Hey bro,
no prob and thank you guys at AX for the tub
I try to keep the reviews as objective as possible :)
I took it 45 minutes prior training as well as I take 10gr of BCAA about 25 min before training
I rather have some time between the two. Especially when the label says 30-45 minutes before,
if I don't know already the product hits earlier, i tend to go for 45 min
 
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Great reviews. that is too bad you dont like Ultima more, I find it to be second to none results wise but the taste is a tad off and coupled with me having a hard time stomaching it, I have let my tub sit for a while. Pump-Bol I was let down by, but oddly enough loved C-Bol so if I wouldnt have sold off my P-Bol after a few servings maybe I would have come around to it.

As for stim preWO. Craze was cool, there is no doubt the feeling you get on it is unique and unforgettable. SP Max is a favorite of mine, but like you said the pumps on it are kind of weak despite a stacked profile. Oddly SP250 gave me amazing pumps, but the new one doesnt as much.
 
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Same here 250 was quick energy and "pumpy" but max gives me great endurance, no crash, and overall very productive workouts.
 
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Hey bro, no prob and thank you guys at AX for the tub I try to keep the reviews as objective as possible :) I took it 45 minutes prior training as well as I take 10gr of BCAA about 25 min before training I rather have some time between the two. Especially when the label says 30-45 minutes before, if I don't know already the product hits earlier, i tend to go for 45 min
No problem bro! Thanks for the info ! :) What more do you have in stock for us now ? :)
 

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