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    First of all thanks to the guys over at NeedToBuildMuscle and Rickrock for allowing me to log this product. I hope I can provide good insight on this product and my experience to others on the site.

    Starting Weight-187 lbs BF-9.5%

    Current max lifts:bench: 315 Max Pull Ups-23

    Other Supps:BCAA/Citrulline MalateFish Oils/Green Tea/RKísNa-RALA 2x daily

    DIET3000 Calís on workout days-260-280 gms protein100-120 gms fat200-250 gms carbs

    I only dabble with heavy weights on my legs due to multiple stress fractures in my back. I just got off a 1 week vacation, so I will be starting up a little slowly, since I slept very little and didnít eat great.

    My Goal-Increase weight over 6 weeks to 190-192 lbs and maintain BF or even lower. I also want to increase my mass, especially in my biceps and forearms.

    I have had mixed experiences with DHEA in the past, as I ran a cycle of dermacrine last year but had to stop a week in due to prostatitis. I had a great experience with Gaspari Halodrol MT, the crappy ones with DHEA in them. This supplement is very similar in ingredients to the old Dermacrine and could be a very good replacement. Since this is a dermal supplement, the DHEA will be more potent and absorbed better, and the other ingredients should keep estrogen at bay, allowing me not to bloat during this cycle.

    My training will consist of Trisets on many days where I work a major group and some minor ones to get my conditioning up, and I also do an occasional day of 8x8 with 30 sec breaks. I mainly do push/pull/legs with some variation

    Day 1

    I applied the lotion to my delts and noticed a cooling and it dried within 2 minutes. I have not noticed the tightening effect that some others have seen though. I did this after a shower and didnít shower post gym to ensure the lotion stayed on. The only concern I have is that I sweat a lot at the gym and could lose some through that.

    Pull Day
    Wide grip pull up 8x8 at body weight 30 sec rest between sets. Last set didnít complete my 8th rep

    1 Arm bentover BB Row-1 min between sets
    Bar+25 x10 reps
    Bar+50 x12 reps
    Bar+50x12 reps
    Bar+70x10 reps SS down with 50,25 at 8 reps each

    Row machine pull up grip
    130x10
    150x12
    170x8
    170x8 SS with 130x10 110x5

    Calf Raises
    45x25
    45x20
    70x10 for 5 sets with 30 sec rest

    BB Bent over row
    95x12
    95x12 115x12 115x10

    Close grip pull down
    150x12 150x12 170x10 190x9 SS at 150x5 and 130x6

    Biceps Curl
    60x12 4 sets 1 min rest

    Overall, a little sore post workout since it was my first workout in a week, we will see in the coming days how recovery goes and what gains will be made.

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    i just started using transaderm as well....good luck!
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    Good to see some people in on this.

    Today was my first chest/shoulder day since my vacation, and I hope to get back to my pre-vacation peaks next time around. Im also out of B-Alanine so I need to pick some up.

    Day 2

    I applied the lotion to my delts, 3 pumps one side, 2 the other, it dried quickly, and I still didn't feel the pump that others talk about.
    I hit the gym about 45 minutes after application.

    1st triset
    DB Bench---135x12, 150x12, 160x12, 160x12, 160x12
    DB Pec Fly 50x12 for 5 sets
    Hanging Leg Raise, 30 sec, 25 sec, 20, 20, 20 sec

    2nd triset
    incline DB Press, almost military press, 130x12 for 5 sets then superset down with 90x10 and 70x5
    wide grip push up, 4 sets of 15
    6 inches 4 sets of 45 seconds


    3rd triset
    upright row 45x15 warm up, 85x12, 95x10, 95x10, 105x8 SS down to 45 lbs
    cable pec crossover, 4 sets on 6th plate each side, not sure weight
    crunches 4 sets 25

    Triceps triset
    Bar push down 11th platex12 reps for 5 sets
    DB skull crushers 4 sets at 40 lbs
    1 arm 1 leg planks 4 sets 5 reps each side with 5 sec holds


    Overall, my numbers and my energy were down a bit. I put it down to post vacation and lack of B-alanine in my workout. So far the only issue I have had with the Transaderm is that I wake up earlier than normal and have issues getting back to sleep. Too early to determine if that is due to the Transaderm however.
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    I'm in. Best of luck bro! Give transaderm all you got
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    Great workout bud

    The effects probably wont come these first few doses, but should soon after
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    Thanks man, I figured it would take at least a week to notice anything from the transaderm, but that is no issue since I have probably 6+ weeks on it.
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    I agree it will take a little time for it to kick in but oh man when it does its going to be alot of fun wink wink
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    Day 3

    No workout because I had to attend a funeral. The only difference I have really noticed so far is an intense hunger. I need to start chomping on carrots or something because I want to eat everything in the house
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmes215
    Day 3

    No workout because I had to attend a funeral. The only difference I have really noticed so far is an intense hunger. I need to start chomping on carrots or something because I want to eat everything in the house
    That hunger increase seems to be a recurring thing with you guys running Transaderm. Makes perfect sense since your body is in an Anabolic state...so craving food is a good thing!
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    Yea I notice it more during the morning. After my sleep, I wake up with that feeling that I could clear a table ful of food, which I caan't complain about, I think I will \do some HIIT cardio a few days a week to help knock off some of these calories
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    Yeah man i've noticed a hunger increase as well....i'm on day 4 and it hits me first thing in the AM....I actually noticed it on day 2
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    Day 4

    Hit the gym after applying, and noticed I had a mean high BP headache at the gym today. I couldn't really do trisets the way I wanted because by the time I'd get to the 3rd exercise I'd have to sit down because I felt like ****. I can't use hawthorn berry because I have an allergy, so I will lower doseage for a few days. Either way my workout went well at a lower intensity.

    close grip pulldown
    8x8 30 sec break. Not sure weight b/c doesn't have labeling. Also on my last set couldn't get full reps on reps 6-8.


    Wide grip neutral pulldowns

    170x10
    180x10
    190x10
    200x10
    220x8

    Leg extensions
    90x15 warm up
    115x15
    140x15
    165x15
    180x15
    180x15

    hamstring curl
    45x15
    45x15
    45x15

    I do lower weights on legs due to my back issue

    MAchine row
    150x12
    170x8
    170x10
    170x8
    150x12


    Biceps curl with EZ bar

    60x12
    70x10
    70x10
    70x9
    70x8 forced reps 9,10

    still fell high BP about 4 hrs after workout, also wondering what people recommend for PCT?
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    Day 5

    Lowered doseage to 3 pumps to reduce high BP headaches, still had slightly high BP though.

    I have slowly noticed a little water retention in my pectoral and abdominal area just 5 days in.


    DB bench press

    5x12 last set at 180 lbs, so up 20 lbs from last lift, mainly because I got my endurance back from before vacation

    Did a triset with 6 inches and side planks



    Incline DB press Triset with hanging leg raise and decline crunches

    4x12 at 150 lbs


    Military press
    120x11
    120x9
    100x12
    100x12

    V bar triceps pressdown
    5x12

    DB skull cruchers
    4x12


    Felt good post workout and noticing some increase in endurance, but not feeling good about slight water retention. Also, my hunger seems to have subsided in the AM.
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    Yeh you will retain some water on Transaderm bro. Its pretty normal and if it bothers you too much you can add an AI to dry out some. BP issues can be helped by adding in some Hawthorne Berry. It can be had pretty cheap at any place that sells vitamins.

    As for PCT, a good test booster should be all you need with the exception of maybe an AI.
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    Yea I have Hawthorn Berry from a past cycle of H-drol but cannot use it because I get a wicked rash, I may just run the AI in PCT, what do you reccomend? Would Erase and say DAA work or a stronger anti-E needed PCT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    Yea I have Hawthorn Berry from a past cycle of H-drol but cannot use it because I get a wicked rash, I may just run the AI in PCT, what do you reccomend? Would Erase and say DAA work or a stronger anti-E needed PCT?
    You can definitely do that. Maybe even just keep it topical and do some formastanozol
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    yea I was thinking formestane possibly. I had half a bottle about a month ago but it went bad because it sat around for over a year
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    How about Novedex XT actually at a low dose? I know its a ****ty AI but as a side supp in this case at 1 cap a day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmes215
    How about Novedex XT actually at a low dose? I know its a ****ty AI but as a side supp in this case at 1 cap a day?
    Novedex XT is actually pretty effective at lowering estrogen....unfortunately its also pretty good at lowering libido too. I didn't want anything to do with my wife while on that stuff. If you already have it, then you could use it, but if you have to purchase something just go with Erase or Formastanozol
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    yea I may run Erase PCT, I am thinking low dose Novedex to combat estro on the cycle. And yea libido can be bad but I've used a high dose before and gotten by, so I will make do since its already on my shelf
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    yea I was thinking formestane possibly. I had half a bottle about a month ago but it went bad because it sat around for over a year

    i doubt it went bad, a common occurance with formestane products is that if they sit for a long time they tend to go out of solution[ingrdients will seperate]...if you hold the bottle under really hot water for a few minutes then shake the hell out of it you should be good to go. the heat won't effect the product, btw.

    trust me on this, i have left bottles sit for well over a year and this has worked well for me!!!


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    OK, it was about 1/4 full anyway so I did chuck it a week back, it was having issues absorbing probably because of going out of solution, but either way I am going to run 1 cap Novedex per day. Today I kept the Transaderm at 3 pumps and dosed after my gym session. I still seem to be having more side effects than anything. High BP and increased HR when active are a killer along with a little water retention, but I will plow through and see in a few days how its going
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    Day 7

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    Pull ups (2 min rest between sets) kin between sets did weighted abs and decline crunches

    20
    15
    12
    12
    10


    1 arm BB bent over row

    bar+25x15
    bar+50x12
    bar+70x10
    bar+50x15 with downset


    chin up grip pull downs
    180x10
    200x10
    200x8
    200x7


    Wide grip pull downs (45 sec rest)
    150x12
    150x10
    160x9


    row machine
    150x10
    170x10
    170x12
    150x10

    Planks
    BW+45 x 1:15 and 1 minute

    BB curl
    75x10
    75x10
    75x10
    85x9


    overall a pretty good workout. Had a little headache but no big issue at 3 pumps, after my workout I put 4 on today so we will see how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmes215
    OK, it was about 1/4 full anyway so I did chuck it a week back, it was having issues absorbing probably because of going out of solution, but either way I am going to run 1 cap Novedex per day. Today I kept the Transaderm at 3 pumps and dosed after my gym session. I still seem to be having more side effects than anything. High BP and increased HR when active are a killer along with a little water retention, but I will plow through and see in a few days how its going
    Another thing is make sure you are getting plenty of water in, and plenty of fish oil too. Both of those things can also contribute to lower blood pressure. Bananas or a good source of potassium will also help. Its weird that this is the first time I've heard of BP issues on Transaderm, but everyone reacts to things differently.
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    Yea it is odd because even a heavier ph cycle in the past didn't jack it up much. Yea I'm taking 4 gms of fish oils 1.5 gallons of water and some potassium in my multi
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    Day 8

    Chest and shoulders

    DB bench press triset with 6 inches and side planks

    130x12
    150x12
    170x12
    190x12
    190x12 ****PR for 12 reps with DB


    Incline Bench press triset with hanging leg raise and reverse crunch

    150x8 for 4 sets, shoulders felt shot for some reason



    upright rows triset with pushups and calf raises

    90x10
    90x10
    100x10
    100x8



    I felt great today during my workout but had to rush it because of a busy day, so I didn't get everything done, but progress is being made. I do need to cut back the calories a bit though, the last two days I ate 3300+ calories due to the increased hunger brought about by being on an anabolic. The water retention seems to have stabilized and maybe cut back a little bit with the addition of an AI.
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    Glad things are looking up for you. Transderm with a low dosed AI is the way to go IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    Day 8

    Chest and shoulders

    DB bench press triset with 6 inches and side planks

    130x12
    150x12
    170x12
    190x12
    190x12 ****PR for 12 reps with DB


    Incline Bench press triset with hanging leg raise and reverse crunch

    150x8 for 4 sets, shoulders felt shot for some reason



    upright rows triset with pushups and calf raises

    90x10
    90x10
    100x10
    100x8



    I felt great today during my workout but had to rush it because of a busy day, so I didn't get everything done, but progress is being made. I do need to cut back the calories a bit though, the last two days I ate 3300+ calories due to the increased hunger brought about by being on an anabolic. The water retention seems to have stabilized and maybe cut back a little bit with the addition of an AI.

    Nice numbers on the DB's bro. Adding in the AI is a good move, and that will reflect in drying out some. You should notice that in your appearance
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    Day 9

    Bi's tri's and forearms


    Felt good to finally do bi's and tri's by themselves for once. I did reach a new record for myself on the EZ Bar with standing curls and that was 8 reps at 115 lbs. Still have not noticed mass increase in the arms but wouldn't expect that in a week. Kept it at 4 pumps again today and not sure if I will go back to 5 or not.


    Day 10

    Legs (Sorta) and traps

    I am noticing that my cardio capacity has gone down a bit due to higher BP and heart rate. Pre-cycle I was able to do a 6:30 minute mile on the treadmill whereas now I struggle to stay at a 7 minute pace for over 3 minutes straight. I couldn't do traditional legs because I have a real bad know in my hip/glute, so I could not squat. I did however do 6 sets at 10 reps of leg extensions and 4 sets of hamstring curls along with some bodyweight squats to stretch. Traps I did about 12 sets of shrugs in various forms, I need to get my mid summer traps back as they have shrunk over the past month or so. Either way besides deminished cardio output the Transaderm seems to be doing a good job, especially with increasing hunger.
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    yeah, the increased appetite is for real....
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    Very nice bro! That appetite increase can be a good or bad thing I guess depending on your goal. Luckily for me when I start up Transaderm in a couple weeks I will officially be starting my lean bulking season.
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    Yea I was looking initially to recomp, I may turn it into a lean bulk then recomp the rest of the fall and winter so I can keep my strength gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by holmes215 View Post
    Yea I was looking initially to recomp, I may turn it into a lean bulk then recomp the rest of the fall and winter so I can keep my strength gains
    I would just bulk to feb-mar. I'm actually going to be bulking for the next year and a half. I'm tired of going back and forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf

    I would just bulk to feb-mar. I'm actually going to be bulking for the next year and a half. I'm tired of going back and forth.
    I'm with you on this one.... I wanna just be big already. After my transaderm log it's strength and size gains all the way lol.
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    Day 11

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    Behind the neck pulldowns triset with side planks and six inches
    5x10

    Cable Rows triset with hanging leg raises and 1 arm 1 leg planks
    4x10

    Machine pull up grip rows triset with good mornings and stationary leg raises
    4x10

    lat pulldowns
    2x15


    Overall a good day today as I was able to put up some very good numbers and maintain the strength through my workout. I also had good energy and was able to do so HIIT cardio at the end to keep my cardiovascular system in shape. I had a slight headache at the end of HIIT but nothing bad. Im hoping to do chest tomorrow and set some new PR's on 12 rep sets. I think I am going to run 4 day splits now and train my arms seperately so I can really hit em hard while they arent exhausted from other exercises. After my workout today I went to 5 pumps of Transaderm, so we will see how training goes tomorrow
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    Day 12

    Chest and Shoulders

    DB Bench Press triset with decline crunches and weighted crunch machine
    4x12 last set PR 100'sx11

    Incline DB Bench Press triset with planks and crunches
    4x12 every set with 75's. Last set could only finish 10 with 2 forced reps

    BB decline bench press
    3x15

    Shoulder shocker
    3 sets using 35's and 10's


    Day 13 Bi's Tri's forearms and shrugs

    Biceps routine

    seated EZ bar curl 4x12
    seated preacher curl 4x12
    standing curl 4x10

    Triceps
    rope pushdown 16, 14, 8, 6 reps
    straight bar pushdown 16, 14, 8, 6
    triceps extension machine 4x12

    Shrugs
    Jump shrugs 3x12
    behind back shrugs 3x15
    regular shrugs 3x10

    forearm curl 3x15


    Still having some some high blood pressure issues even with taking COQ10. Estrogen has fallen, but still some retention of water. My weight now is at 189 which is up 3 lbs from the start. Some may be water retention and some may be fat, with mostly muscle gain. My biggest issue is just the pectoral area where fat/water is beginning to show around the nipples again. My set maxes are up, and I have gained size so it is working in terms of strength though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    I'm with you on this one.... I wanna just be big already. After my transaderm log it's strength and size gains all the way lol.
    I used to be that way. Last year went from 170 to 200 in 5 months. Problem is getting big quick means getting fat even quicker. I spent 5 months after my bulk cutting to get to where I am now in my Avi. I hate bodyfat with a passion, so I will only lean bulk now. 9-10% bodyfat is as high as I will ever be again and no more big cuts for me.
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