KLEEN - Satisfies his Needtobuildmuscle with Transaderm - An **** Sponsored Log

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  1. KLEEN - Satisfies his Needtobuildmuscle with Transaderm - An **** Sponsored Log


    First and foremost, I would like to thank **** and RickRock13 specifically for the opportunity to run this!


    Most of us are familiar with Dermacrine, well this is the new improved version made by Needtobuildmuscle! It has a higher dose of DHEA, and an easier to apply transdermal carrier. It also supplies a full two months supply in the bottle for around the same price. For those of you who are not familiar with it I will provide a few links to the product announcement and some informational threads that you can look at for further information. The first is very basic terminology and the second will tell you the science behind how the product works.



    Dosing - I plan to run the Transaderm at 6-8 pumps a day gradually going up in dose. I am not sure if I plan to run it for 4 weeks or 6 weeks it just depends on how I feel. If I feel I am beginning to shut down more than I want to, I will stop the run at 4 weeks and pick it up later. I also had some bloods done at the doctors this past week which will show where I am at the beginning of this run. If **** wants to toss the cash for a testing kit at the end of it I will happily get bloods at the end before starting a PCT. Then thay can have some quantifiable bloods on the product from an unnafilliated person.


    Nutrition - I follow an Intermittent Fasting protocol very similar to Lean Gains. Basically I follow the 16 hours fasting 8 hours feeding window. I do sometimes deviate from this by an hour or two either way and when trying to lean up I will fast a little longer on what I call my Burn Days, which are cardio and rest days. I do not count calories or freak about macros any longer. I simply know what is good for me and what is not and I follow along with what I see happening in the mirror, and how I feel. The only two factors that are truly important to me at this point.I will not deviate from this or make special effort to cut up or add mass during this run. I will clean up if I notice I have let my appetite carry me too far from what I find aesthetically pleasing. However, that is the extent of adjustments I will make to my nutrition.


    Training - My training evolves as I go and I can not promise that I will be n the same program in 2 weeks that I am on now. However that being said I tend to stick with the basics when it comes to exercise selection. I always lift 3 times a week in some fashion or another. I typically set up all of my own training programs.Currently doing something along these lines.


    Tuesday and Saturday = 1 warm up 3 work sets with a single drop set after 3rd work set
    Thursday Accessory Day = 2x15 on most exercises


    Tuesday - BB Bench, Hammer Strength Rows, Dips, Squats


    Thursday - 3x15 DB Swings - 2x15 Lateral Raise Machine - 2x15 Face Pulls - 2x15 Wall Crawls - 2x15 Thigh Abductors - 2x15 Calve Raises - 2x15 Side Bends. 2x15


    Saturday - Pull Ups/Chins, Standing Shoulder Press, Curls, Dead Lifts


    Goals - I plan to just to keep going at it as is for now. I can add a little mass or get leaner or recomp. Just gonna eat as I have been and work hard because it is fun and treating me nicely right now. I feel pretty good, look pretty good and eat mostly what I want. I am more working out for pleasure and the love of it right now. Any and all progress will result from more of the same and the supplements, I run along the way. I think tha fact I am not making a huge change in any one thing I am doing for this log will be a huge factor in knowing what the product actually does for me.


    Other Supps - I take fish oils, a collagen product, prostate support, vitamin C, BCAA powder, and Whey Protein. I will be using Muscle Marinade for my pre workout and running another log for it highlighting just the effects of it. I will also be using DAA starting about the second week to try to avoid any shut down, or perhaps some fadogia product. I will add in an AI if I feel I need it.

    Progress Pics - I will post progress pics as I go my first set was taken a week ago and I have not really made any changes so they will be my before pics. More than likely I will post them up every two weeks but at a bare minimum you can expect some at the end of the run.

    Current Weight - I am weighing in a 198 lbs this has been a pretty consistent weight over the past 2 weeks. I am lean I am not going to worry about body fat percentage. The pics will tell the story better than the pinch.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/256911-kleen-cuts-back.html

  2. Progress Pics & Final Review


    9/25/2011 - 198 lbs
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/256911-kleen-cuts-back.html

  3. 1st in for the ride
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  4. In for yet another epic kleen log
    "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates

  5. IN FOR SOME KLEEN GAINS!

  6. i'll be watching!

  7. Thanks for following along guys!
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/256911-kleen-cuts-back.html

  8. I know this product it kickazz so here to confirm...
    LG Sciences sponsored athlete
    Use "walker35" for 35% off at www.lgsciences.com

  9. subbed! Looking great bro. Interested to see how transaderm treats you.

  10. I'll be "stalking" you too!

  11. In Chris, since you mention PCT what are you thinking of running? I would guess with this product you only need a light PCT if any, right?

  12. Still researching everything for runs in the future. In to see how this goes. Kill it man.
    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    We can't be affected we must just be injected. Injected with knowledge.
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  13. subd!!!! YEAH BUDDY!
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    DISCLAIMER: Anything that I post on this forum should not be taken as medical advice. Consult your doctor before starting new diets, supplements, training protocols, and/or if you have any concerns about your health.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I know this product it kickazz so here to confirm...
    Yeah I stasrted a Dermacrine run a while back and liked where it was going but got an opp to run the 5aOHP and took it. So far as far as putting the stuff on this is way easier. Not complaining about Derma but this drys so fast you almost wonder did I get it spread around enough. Although I feel like it is easier for me being bigger and not being able to reach much of my back it was definitely easier to apply. My traps and shoulders soaked up 6 pumps like it was nothing!

    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    subbed! Looking great bro. Interested to see how transaderm treats you.
    Me too! Than by the way!
    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy6s Chick View Post
    I'll be "stalking" you too!
    WooHoo!
    Quote Originally Posted by gwls View Post
    In Chris, since you mention PCT what are you thinking of running? I would guess with this product you only need a light PCT if any, right?
    Yes OTC should be good enough. I have some Phytoserms 347, some PCT Unleashed, a little formastanzol and if I can find a way to swing it I really want to try the Athletix Formula X that stuff looks sexy, 8:1 ratio BCAA, and 3 grams of DAA per serving in a non stim pre.

    Quote Originally Posted by NuclearLaunch View Post
    Still researching everything for runs in the future. In to see how this goes. Kill it man.
    I expect bang for you buck this is probably going to be the best DHEA supp around.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    subd!!!! YEAH BUDDY!
    Andres thanks for coming. I know input will be sporatic but feel free to chime in when you have time brother!
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/256911-kleen-cuts-back.html

  15. Thanks for understanding. But you know you will always have my support!!!

    By the way, looking on point! What's PCT looking like? I know you mentioned a few products there but are you going to run them in any order? Maybe formula X during the cycle to prevent shutdown?
    Olympus Labs R&D - check us out at Olympus-Labs.com
    DISCLAIMER: Anything that I post on this forum should not be taken as medical advice. Consult your doctor before starting new diets, supplements, training protocols, and/or if you have any concerns about your health.

  16. In for the madness. Let's see Kleen get ripped!!!

    Wait??? Kleen, you are already ripped! This stuff better create a bigger monster. The **** team picked a great logger!
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/193259-begins-morry-vs.html

  17. Subbed!

    Good job on getting the bloods too!
    RecoverBro ELITE

  18. In for the ride ... I have some but have not started yet ...

  19. Very honored and pleased to have you running this Kleen. I'm ready for another amazing log and this is one that I will be checking on quite often. I'm really curious to hear what you think of it. Myself and many others hold your opinion in a very high regard, so it will be very valuable to know what the Kleen machine thinks of Transaderm!!
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  20. No way I am gonna skip on a Mr. K log, in like flynn!
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve

    Recoverbro

  21. should be a good log here.def in

  22. You know I'm in! Thoroughly enjoy your precision and time you take during your logs!!!
    "THE DARK SIDE"

  23. Subbed to another one.
    Kleen, thou art the eternal never-ending logger!! lol

    Looking forward to another highly entertaining and informative thread.
    THE PAIN YOU ENDURE TODAY WILL PRODUCE THE POWER YOU ENJOY TOMORROW!!

    "Ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most High."

  24. In! Looking forward to this one. I love the original and I love the carrier this one is sitting in so I'm pumped to see how it goes.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    In! Looking forward to this one. I love the original and I love the carrier this one is sitting in so I'm pumped to see how it goes.
    Ditto, this is going to be good....
    LG Sciences sponsored athlete
    Use "walker35" for 35% off at www.lgsciences.com

  26. In for the ride.
    NSCA - CSCS

  27. Late as usual, but SUB'd for sure!!!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  28. Suuuubbbbedd!!!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  29. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Thanks for understanding. But you know you will always have my support!!!

    By the way, looking on point! What's PCT looking like? I know you mentioned a few products there but are you going to run them in any order? Maybe formula X during the cycle to prevent shutdown?
    Well I would be lying if I told you I have it perfectly mapped out. I am not going to allow a bunch of shut down so the recovery wont be too bad regardless. I will more than likely be running the Formula X in PCT. I really don't have the money right now to buy it. However I have bulk DAA to run during. I also have Bridge and contemplated running it but that would end up being a lot of pregnelone at once so I am just not sure about that. I know that I will be using DAA during my PCT as well at 3 grams per day. So I won't start up on the DAA until week 3-4 anyway. I will more than likely give PCT Unleashed a shot to see how well it handles the recovery. I have heard a lot of good things about it. I will also add in something to bind to SHBG and free up test if it is low I can still get the free test up to what it would be if fully recovered even while serum levels are still recovering.

    Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    In for the madness. Let's see Kleen get ripped!!!

    Wait??? Kleen, you are already ripped! This stuff better create a bigger monster. The **** team picked a great logger!
    Thanks Morry! Yeah I am hoping I get an lb or two out of this for sure. If I recomp and get leaner that is cool too. However I expect about 2 maybe 3 lbs of LBM.
    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Subbed!

    Good job on getting the bloods too!
    Well I was gonna get them anyway. I won't be getting them right after though unless someone else springs for them...

    Quote Originally Posted by bluerocket View Post
    In for the ride ... I have some but have not started yet ...
    Welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Very honored and pleased to have you running this Kleen. I'm ready for another amazing log and this is one that I will be checking on quite often. I'm really curious to hear what you think of it. Myself and many others hold your opinion in a very high regard, so it will be very valuable to know what the Kleen machine thinks of Transaderm!!
    Thanks Rick! So far not much to report. Great carrier, love how quickly it dries.

    Quote Originally Posted by taman6886 View Post
    No way I am gonna skip on a Mr. K log, in like flynn!
    Welcome Sir!

    Quote Originally Posted by mich29 View Post
    should be a good log here.def in
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    You know I'm in! Thoroughly enjoy your precision and time you take during your logs!!!
    Glad your here!
    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Subbed to another one.
    Kleen, thou art the eternal never-ending logger!! lol

    Looking forward to another highly entertaining and informative thread.
    Why thank you and yeah I like to log. Gives me a chance to share my passion, and keeps my accountable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rahl View Post
    In! Looking forward to this one. I love the original and I love the carrier this one is sitting in so I'm pumped to see how it goes.
    Hey Rahl long time!
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Ditto, this is going to be good....
    Gracias Doug!
    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    In for the ride.
    Volc gonna smash this thing good to have you here.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Late as usual, but SUB'd for sure!!!
    Fashionably Late... You arrived in style.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf View Post
    subbed!
    DH welcome bro, good to see you in here.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/256911-kleen-cuts-back.html

  30. I'm here and I have my notepad
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  31. Thought about using phytoserms, DAA, and sustain alpha for pct? I am running sustain alpha right now, into rs-transaderm, then back into sustain alpha and DAA. Subbed to see how it goes!

  32. sweet a continuation from last log with everything except the supplement.
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  33. Subbed for sure. I am def looking forward to your honest results on this product Kleen, I have also been following your logs/threads on here for a while and you always seem you tell it like it is. Thanks for running this..Take care..SJ

    I would def be interested in seeing after bloods so hhopefully someone can spring for them. Also, at this point have you decided that its just going to be DAA while you are on teh transaderm or do you have something else planned. I dont think PCT will require to many things. Good luck and again, I look forward to this thread..Take care..SJ

  34. Ok Brother Im in, and starting up tomorrow. I've been ridiculously busy lately, but Im ready to tear it up again.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443

  35. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Ok Brother Im in, and starting up tomorrow. I've been ridiculously busy lately, but Im ready to tear it up again.
    Ill be waiting for that log man! Your current log is crazy good. Results are definitely there from your dedication to your transformation.
    Hopefully my log is shaping up to match the detail and information on you and Kleen's logs.

    Kleen, you are definitely starting strong, page 2 already and I dont think you even made a post about using the product. This is going to be one crazy good ride!!!!
    RecoverBro ELITE
  36. Day 3 Workout 1


    Okay Ladies and Gents today was a great day. I had an awesome lift and put up more weight with my shoulder than I have since my surgery once again.

    Morning Supps No Ignite 1.5 Scoops.

    The workout went down like this.

    BB Flat Bench 135x8, 225x8, 245x8, 250x6 > 160x8 this was sweet I haven't held 250 in my hands in quite some time now. Last time I hit 245 I only got 6 reps. I can't say this is because of the Transa, more lingering effects from the lbm I put on with the EndoSurge but the intensity I had to get it done may very well have had something to do with Transaderm.

    HS Rows Pronated Grip - ( weight is per side) 45x12, 90x12, 92.5x12, 92.5x12 > 45x12 - I went a tiny bit lighter then last time so I could make sure form was more on point. I had a nice contraction with these and got exactly what I was looking for out of this.

    Dips - BW + 135 (=335) x 7, BW +90 x 8, BW +90 x 8 > BW x 15 - Yeah baby one more rep and after pounding chest like that. I was not unhappy. I pushed for 8 so hard I couldn't even do one more rep at 135 on second set. I am very happy with that.

    Squats - 135x12, 195x12, 225x12, 235x20 > 185x16 - Oh yeah I can already feel my legs starting to get sore. Up 20 lbs on last set of 12, and 10 on the 20 rep then added a strip set of 185 with a close stance to finish of the quads.

    Showered and then put 6 pumps of Transaderm on my traps. Then I used some skelly balm on my shoulder, hip and elbow to limit inflammation.

    I really love the fact I could use 6 pumps of transa on just my traps and as far down the center of my back as I could reach without actually having to rub it over the shoulder joints. This allowed me to use the skelly balm (which is awesome) right over the shoulder joint. So I got to get the benefits of both without having any transdermal competition in the same area. BONUS!

    As far as effects, I have not really felt too many, I think my test was pretty high from the EndoSurge so Alpha Male feel and what not hasn't increased however more importantly... It has not ceased either. I will continue to keep an eye on things and report back as quickly as I notice any changes.

    Also my work has gotten much busier recently so sorry for not being on as much. I will make sure to update as much as possible while things are busy.


    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I'm here and I have my notepad
    Welcome Sir, gonna have to try to give you something note worthy.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    sweet a continuation from last log with everything except the supplement.
    Yes Sir! I think it will give a good gauge without me changing too much.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Subbed for sure. I am def looking forward to your honest results on this product Kleen, I have also been following your logs/threads on here for a while and you always seem you tell it like it is. Thanks for running this..Take care..SJ

    I would def be interested in seeing after bloods so hhopefully someone can spring for them. Also, at this point have you decided that its just going to be DAA while you are on teh transaderm or do you have something else planned. I dont think PCT will require to many things. Good luck and again, I look forward to this thread..Take care..SJ
    No I don't think so but then again I did say I may go up to 8 pumps and if we get into a 6 week run at higher doses, I will be running a PCT that I can continue to make progress in.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Subbed for sure. I am def looking forward to your honest results on this product Kleen, I have also been following your logs/threads on here for a while and you always seem you tell it like it is. Thanks for running this..Take care..SJ

    I would def be interested in seeing after bloods so hhopefully someone can spring for them. Also, at this point have you decided that its just going to be DAA while you are on teh transaderm or do you have something else planned. I dont think PCT will require to many things. Good luck and again, I look forward to this thread..Take care..SJ
    Well holler at Nate and see if he wants to take me up on that offer for the bloods. I have already done half the work. ;0) Well as far as the anything but DAA while on I don't know. I don't have anything with Fadogia in it but a few bottles of Bridge. That has pregnenolone in it too so my concern is too much preg is not always a good thing. Your thoughts???

    I mean if I could avoid shut down completely by running the Bridge with no ill effects from the extra pregnenolone I would be all over it. I mean even taking a single dose would have me at about 25mg of pregnenolone a day. So what do you think? Maybe you can bounce that off of Nate and see what he has to say. While your at it tell him I said to get his azz in here and support me!

    Quote Originally Posted by BigKrabbe View Post
    Thought about using phytoserms, DAA, and sustain alpha for pct? I am running sustain alpha right now, into rs-transaderm, then back into sustain alpha and DAA. Subbed to see how it goes!
    You know I happen to have some Phyto, and I thought about using it if feeling pretty shut down. However I will save it for if I run a super DHEA product again. I am trying to save my PH runs to the DHEA type products and the Super DHEA treats me pretty nice.


    Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Ok Brother Im in, and starting up tomorrow. I've been ridiculously busy lately, but Im ready to tear it up again.
    Awesome this stuff spreads and dries so quickly you are going to be very surprised. Link it up in here for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Ill be waiting for that log man! Your current log is crazy good. Results are definitely there from your dedication to your transformation.
    Hopefully my log is shaping up to match the detail and information on you and Kleen's logs.

    Kleen, you are definitely starting strong, page 2 already and I dont think you even made a post about using the product. This is going to be one crazy good ride!!!!
    Thanks Mattrag, I have made some minor comments on the carrier and ease with which it is applied but other than that it truly is a bit early to say.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Current Log:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/256911-kleen-cuts-back.html

  37. Great first update Kleen. You hit some nice numbers there on the bench. Nice job killing it bro
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  38. Great start. Can't wait to see how you progress with this. I'm with Ripped, nice bench numbers
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/193259-begins-morry-vs.html

  39. Excellent workout, brother Kleen!! Outstanding progress being made post-surgery. Love it!!



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