Doc strips to 10% with Anabeta, erase and Alpha t2 (sponsored log)

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  1. Weekly weigh in.


    81.8kg (-.1kg)
    Bodyfat: 13.6% (-.4%) (i had 4 visible abs this morning)

    Nailed it! pure bodyfat loss this week. I'm very happy about that. Sure, id like to see more but at such little weight lost.....i'll take that any day of the week. I also felt like id put some mass on this week (i can see it in my arms-they're a little thicker) so this also indicates to me that this is true. PES and ANAbeta together are off the hook! I feel full pumped all the time, vascular and overall really confident. This feeling started kicking in 3-4 days ago. I like it! I didnt get this in my first run of AB.

    Changes i made: I started eating bananas (2 max a day)
    I started eating more nuts
    I reduced my cardio from 30 mins (post workout) to 10 mins HIIT and five mins cool down. I only sprinted for 20 seconds each minute.

    Funny thing is though i dont know if i trust my scales anymore. I took 7 measurements this morning. Each of them were different with bodyfat (and weight) changing each time. However i took the first measurement like always. Then, i found my fat calipers and took measurements trying to make myself as fat as i could (ie i wasnt trying to cheat) I got 11% bodyfat from them. Which to believe?

    Anyway, very happy with the results this week. Im going to try add in that in that sledge hammer workout this week.

    Edit:
    I've also broken out with a few zits this week. Im not concened about it, i just thought id note it. However, theyre actually quite sore which is different to usual. I dont know if this is stress related or from erase.
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  2. Day 40:
    I was so snowed down with uni work today i didn't get a chance to get to the gym. I had a funny feeling this might happened and got 20mins of hell in with the sledge hammer again. I also did a little home workout with what i have here. Nothing major though.
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  3. Congratulations on starting to nail the recomp. I would have ditched that type of cardio ages ago. Next stop Weetabix!

    I am pleased you are enjoying AnaBeta and have such high regards for PES. If there is anything else I can do for you please let me know.

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  4. Thanks Ben!

    Ive ditched the Wheetbix and moved on to an omelet. 7 egg whites +2 yolkes. Its giving me the energy i need. I gotta admit, a recomp is a lot harder than people make it sound. Hopefully now i've found somthing that works i'll see great results. If im still going strong at the end i'll get another bottle of anabeta+erase and add another 4 weeks.
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  5. Recomp difficulty is inversely proportionate with how high your body fat is. The leaner you get the harder it is.

    Keep in mind that the rules change as you get leaner. If you are low carbing the refeeds can become more frequent and the rest of your diet has to become more strict.
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  6. Day 43: Bi's, midback, delts

    Still feeling awsome and was rocking it in the gym today. I made a lot of visible progress this week. For example, my bicep is starting to separate from my shoulder and get that curve running behind it. Im nearly where i want to be visibly i think. Im just a light pull on the skin away in most areas.

    Heres my workout.
    Barbell upright rows 2sets:35kg x10
    Forward-lean laterals 1 set 6kgx20
    Barbell upright rows (X Reps) 1 set: 30kgx10 with 6 x reps
    Dumbbell presses
    (drop set; X Reps) 1 set: 24kg (each) x 8 >18kgx6 with 6 x-reps
    Incline one-arm laterals (drop set; X Reps) 1 set: 8kgx8>6kgx6 with 6 x reps
    Tcups (dropset; ) 1 x 8(6) 10kgx8 >8kgx6
    Machine rows 2 sets: 75kgx8 65kgx10
    Bent-arm bent-over laterals 1 set: 6kgx20
    Machine rows (X Reps) 1 x 8-10 65kgx10 with 6 x reps
    One-arm dumbbell rows (X Reps) 1 set: 34kgx10 with 6 x reps
    db shrugs 1 set 24kgx20
    Cable upright rows (X Reps) 2 sets 30kgx10 with 6 x-reps
    Dumbbell curls 2 sets: 14kgx10
    Machine curls: level 3 x20
    Cable curls (X Reps) 1 set: 11kgx8 with 4 x reps
    Incline curls (drop set) 14kgx8>10kgx6
    Incline hammer curls 12kgx8>10kgx6
    Reverse db wrist curls 4kgx12 2 sets
    DB Wrist curls 12kgx10 2 sets

    10 mins hiit on bike.
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  7. Good work so far man ! I'm looking forward to starting my anabeta erase titanium and daa!

  8. That should be an awsome stack man! enjoy. Is it a cut or bulk run?
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  9. Day 44: quads glutes, hams lower back.

    **** im loving this ride at the moment.Looking leaner again today, it feels great! Erase and anabeta are perfect together.

    BDCC: Ive been following your suggestion of only eating carbs in the evening-bar a few vegtables during the day. I think its working. And it makes sense too....you can burn more fat while your insulin levels arnent spiked (from carbs) during the day and get your glycogen back at night.

    Workout: I made gains on most exersises today.

    Hack squats 2sets: 80kgx10, 100kgx10
    Leg extensions 1 set: 30kg x20
    Hack squats (X Reps)* 1set: 100kg x10 with 8 x reps
    Leg press 1 set: 200kgx10 with 6 x reps
    Leg curls 1 set: Weight 9 (unknown weight) x 20
    Leg presses (X Reps) 1 set: 200kgx8 with 8 x-reps

    Superset
    Stiff-legged deadlifts 2sets: 60kgx10 (warmup) 100kgx10
    Hyperextensions x12

    Leg press calf raises (X Reps), 120kg x18, 120x15 6 x reps on both
    Standing calf raises
    (drop set; X Reps) 2 sets: 35kgx8>30 kg x8 (6xreps at the end of dropset.)

    Superset
    Seated calf raises
    40kg x12> 30kgx8 6 xreps
    Hyper extensions 1 set x12+10 kg.

    No cardio i tried...my legs couldnt even coordinate the bike. LOL
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  10. Day 45: Chest lats tris abs

    Every lift went up today except close grip bench press. My tris were exhausted by the time i got to them. It was a good workout
    Workout:

    Tripple superset
    Incline presses
    2 sets: x 30kg x10, x8

    Incline flyes
    1 set: 10 kgx20

    Incline presses (X Reps)
    2 sets: 30kgx6>4 X-reps

    Incline flys: 10kgx10 with 8 x reps

    Triple superset
    Dips
    x15, 10kgx7
    Cable flyes
    11kg x18

    dips (X Reps)x10> 8 x reps

    Triple superset
    Wide grip chins x10, x15
    Cable pullovers
    28kgx20>24x10
    Wide grip chins
    x 8 with 6 x-reps

    Dumbbell pullovers (drop set):
    34kg x7>24kgx7
    30kgx6>24x6

    Tripple superst
    Close-grip bench presses:
    50kgx10,60kgx8

    Pushdowns
    28kgx20

    Close-grip bench presses (X Reps)
    50kgx12> 6 X-reps

    Lying tricep extensions: (drop set)
    1set: 30kgx6> 20kgx6

    Triple superset x2
    Hanging kneeups x 10
    Crunches x20
    30 second bridge

    Full range crunches> bench v-ups

    10 mins hiit.
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  11. I am glad the blog post helped you out. I have been trying it recently as a method of 'carb' control.

    Keep up the good work my man.
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  12. Day 50:

    Sorry, i didnt update over the weekend, university has been really hard and i was getting 4 papers in at once. Fortunatly ive finnished for the year Over the weekend i weighed in and dropped to 13.4% fat at 81 kg. I did my sledge hammer workout on saturday and sunday and circuit work on monday

    It consisted of 20 mins pushups,shoulder press and ab work followed by 15 mins of bi and back work followed by box jumps and sprints followed by leg work. However, i probably shouldn't have done it... i had the worst game of basketball yesterday ive had in months.

    Today was Bi's, midback, delts,
    Here is the workout. I stepped up weight in a few exercises.

    Barbell upright rows 2sets:35kg x10
    Forward-lean laterals 1 set 8kgx15
    Barbell upright rows (X Reps) 1 set: 30kgx10 with 6 x reps
    Dumbbell presses: 26kg (each) x 8 >20kgx6 with 6 x-reps
    Incline one-arm laterals (drop set; X Reps): 8kgx8>6kgx6 with 6 x reps
    bent over laterals (dropset 10kgx8>8kgx6
    Machine rows 2 sets: 75kgx8 70kgx8
    Bent-arm bent-over laterals 1 set: 8kgx20
    Machine rows (X Reps) 65kgx10 with 6 x reps
    One-arm dumbbell rows (X Reps) 1 set: 34kgx10 with 6 x reps
    db shrugs 30kgx20>24kgx15
    Cable upright rows (X Reps) 30kgx10 with 6 x-reps
    Dumbbell curls 2 sets: 14kgx10
    Machine curls: level 3.5 x20
    Cable curls (X Reps) 1 set: 12.5kgx10 with 4 x reps
    Incline curls (drop set) 12kgx8>10kgx6
    Incline hammer curls 12kgx8>10kgx6
    Reverse db wrist curls 4kgx12 2 sets
    DB Wrist curls 12kgx10 2 sets

    10 mins hiit on bike. Funnily enough, while my legs were hurting throughout the sprint i was breathing easy. I could not get out of breath as hard as i tried, even at 140rpm. It made me question if it was worth doing haha.
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  13. Hack squats 2sets: 80kgx10, 100kgx10
    Leg extensions 1 set: 30kg x20
    Hack squats (X Reps)* 1set: 80kg x10 with 8 x reps
    Hammer streangth squat 2 sets: 180kgkgx8, 140kg x8 with 6 x reps
    Leg curls 1 set: Weight 9 (unknown weight) x 20 (should be able to up this one next time)
    Leg presses (X Reps) 1 set: 200kgx10 with 10 x-reps (ready to step this one up)

    Superset
    Stiff-legged deadlifts 3sets: 60kgx10 (warmup) 100kgx10, 60kgx10 with 6 x reps
    Hyperextensions x15 with 6 x reps

    Standing calf raises
    (drop set; X Reps) 2 sets: 35kgx20>30 kg x15 (6xreps at the end of dropset.)

    Superset
    Seated calf raises
    50kg x12> 40kgx8 6 xreps
    Hyper extensions 1 set x12+10 kg.

    Leg press calf raises (X Reps), 120kg x20, 160x15, 120x15 6xreps
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  14. Day 52:
    I had a good day on Friday! heres the workout

    Tripple superset
    Incline presses
    2 sets: x 30kg x10, x8

    Incline cable flyes
    1 set: 12.5kg x 16

    Incline presses (X Reps)
    30kgx6>4 X-reps

    Incline cable flys: 12.5kgx10 with 8 x reps

    Triple superset
    Dips
    x15, 10kgx7

    Cable flyes
    11kg x18

    dips (X Reps)x10> 8 x reps

    Triple superset
    Wide grip chins x10, x15
    Cable pullovers
    28kgx20>24x10
    Wide grip chins
    x 8 with 6 x-reps

    Dumbbell pullovers (drop set):
    34kg x7>24kgx7
    30kgx6>24x6

    Tripple superst
    Close-grip bench presses:
    50kgx10,60kgx8

    Pushdowns
    28kgx20

    Close-grip bench presses (X Reps)
    50kgx12> 6 X-reps

    overhead extensions: (drop set)
    20kgx6> 15kgx6

    Triple superset x2
    Hanging kneeups x 10
    Crunches x20
    30 second bridge

    Full range crunches> bench v-ups

    10 mins incline treadmill
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  15. Day 54 Weekly weigh in:

    I wasn't at home to do my weigh in today so i could not do it. however, on Friday i did a quick check and was 80.8kg at 12.9%. Since yesterday i have noticed my 5th and 6th ab start to emerge (they were nearly out yesterday but i was dehydrated. They should be out in another week or so.

    Ive been getting super hungry these last few days. I thought i had anabeta under control. Its been very difficult not to go crazy on the food. Im getting hungry 30 mins even after a meal. I havn't caved-in though
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  16. Day 54:


    Barbell upright rows 2sets:35kg x10
    Forward-lean laterals 1 set 8kgx15
    Barbell upright rows (X Reps) 1 set: 30kgx10 with 6 x reps
    Dumbbell presses: 26kg (each) x 8 >20kgx6 with 6 x-reps
    Incline one-arm laterals (drop set; X Reps): 8kgx8>6kgx6 with 6 x reps
    bent over laterals (dropset 10kgx8>8kgx6
    Machine rows 2 sets: 75kgx8 70kgx8
    Bent-arm bent-over laterals 1 set: 8kgx20
    Machine rows (X Reps) 65kgx10 with 6 x reps
    One-arm dumbbell rows (X Reps) 1 set: 34kgx10 with 6 x reps
    db shrugs 30kgx20>24kgx15
    Cable upright rows (X Reps) 30kgx10 with 6 x-reps
    Dumbbell curls 2 sets: 14kgx10
    Machine curls: level 3.5 x20
    Cable curls (X Reps) 1 set: 12.5kgx10 with 4 x reps
    Incline curls (drop set) 12kgx8>10kgx6
    Incline hammer curls 12kgx8>10kgx6
    Reverse db wrist curls 4kgx12 2 sets
    DB Wrist curls 12kgx10 2 sets

    20 mins low intensity cardio on treadmil. Incline of 7.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Day 54 Weekly weigh in:

    I wasn't at home to do my weigh in today so i could not do it. however, on Friday i did a quick check and was 80.8kg at 12.9%. Since yesterday i have noticed my 5th and 6th ab start to emerge (they were nearly out yesterday but i was dehydrated. They should be out in another week or so.

    Ive been getting super hungry these last few days. I thought i had anabeta under control. Its been very difficult not to go crazy on the food. Im getting hungry 30 mins even after a meal. I havn't caved-in though
    Congratulations on the progress. Almost there now.

    Don't be shy on bring strict and implementing a refeed rather than a consistent intake. I still kept my carbs as consistently low as I could on AnaBeta and tried to always save them for the evening. If I was cutting I would have implemented strict low carb days instead. The rules for lean people are not the same rules for those getting lean.
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  18. Ive really been struggling with hunger over the last three-4 days. Its been hard to control myself. Safe to say ive only had a bad cheat once-i ate an icecream after basketball-it was the only thing i could find in the house. It tasted good though! Other than that i have been increaseing carbs slightly to satisfy the hungar. Visually this doesnt seem to have harmed my progress and the 5th ab was out thismorning (flexed). Nearly there.

    I'll be finnishing anabeta soon. Probably two or three more days left. I still have a few more days worth of erase. Should i tapper down from three to two for the last week or just stop cold?


    Day 57: Chest lasts abs

    Tripple superset
    Incline presses
    2 sets: x 30kg x10, x8

    Incline cable flyes
    1 set: 12.5kg x 16

    Incline presses (X Reps)
    30kgx6>4 X-reps

    Incline cable flys: 12.5kgx10 with 8 x reps

    Triple superset
    Decline wide pushups
    x30
    Cable flyes
    12.5kg x10

    decline wide grip pushups (X Reps)x25> 8 x reps

    Triple superset
    pulldowns
    120kg x10,
    140kgx6

    Cable pullovers
    28kgx150

    Pulldowns
    100kgx8 with 6 x-reps

    Dumbbell pullovers (drop set):
    34kg x7>24kgx7
    30kgx6>24x6

    Tripple superst
    Decline diamons pushups
    Failure

    Pushdowns
    28kgx20

    Decline diamond pushups (X Reps)
    Failure+8 x reps

    overhead extensions: (drop set)
    20kgx6> 15kgx6

    Triple superset x2
    Hanging kneeups x 10
    Crunches x20
    30 second bridge

    Full range crunches> bench v-ups
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  19. Day 58

    Bi's, midback, delts,


    Barbell upright rows 2sets:35kg x10
    Forward-lean laterals 1 set 8kgx15
    Barbell upright rows (X Reps) 1 set: 30kgx10 with 6 x reps
    Dumbbell presses: 26kg (each) x 8 >20kgx6 with 6 x-reps
    Incline one-arm laterals (drop set; X Reps): 8kgx8>6kgx6 with 6 x reps
    bent over laterals (dropset 10kgx8>8kgx6
    Machine rows 2 sets: 75kgx8 70kgx8
    Bent-arm bent-over laterals 1 set: 8kgx20
    Machine rows (X Reps) 65kgx10 with 6 x reps
    One-arm dumbbell rows (X Reps) 1 set: 34kgx10 with 6 x reps
    db shrugs 30kgx20>24kgx15
    Cable upright rows (X Reps) 30kgx10 with 6 x-reps
    Dumbbell curls 2 sets: 14kgx10
    Machine curls: level 3.5 x20
    Cable curls (X Reps) 1 set: 12.5kgx10 with 4 x reps
    Incline curls (drop set) 12kgx8>10kgx6
    Incline hammer curls 12kgx8>10kgx6
    Reverse db wrist curls 4kgx12 2 sets
    DB Wrist curls 12kgx10 2 sets
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  20. Day 59 Ive been feeling a little over trained this week so i kept this session lighter than ususal. I figured somthing was better than nothing, but i didn't kill myself. I also skipped lower back as it was a little sore after basketball (i took a rough fall). Today was also my last day of Anabeta. Ive still got a few days left on erase. I'll post my final weight + pictures once im done.

    Hack squats 1sets: 80kgx10,
    Leg extensions 2 set: 30kg x20
    Hack squats (X Reps)* 1set: 80kg x10 with 8 x reps
    Leg press: 200kgx8, with 6 x reps
    Leg curls 1 set: Weight 10 (unknown weight) x 15
    Leg presses (X Reps) 1 set: 200kgx8 with 10 x-reps
    Leg press calf raises 120kg x20, 120x15 with 6 x reps

    Standing calf raises
    2 sets: 35kgx20>30 kg x15 (6xreps at the end of dropset.)
    Seated calf raises
    50kg x12> 40kgx8 6 xreps
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Day 59 Ive been feeling a little over trained this week so i kept this session lighter than ususal. I figured somthing was better than nothing, but i didn't kill myself. I also skipped lower back as it was a little sore after basketball (i took a rough fall). Today was also my last day of Anabeta. Ive still got a few days left on erase. I'll post my final weight + pictures once im done.

    Hack squats 1sets: 80kgx10,
    Leg extensions 2 set: 30kg x20
    Hack squats (X Reps)* 1set: 80kg x10 with 8 x reps
    Leg press: 200kgx8, with 6 x reps
    Leg curls 1 set: Weight 10 (unknown weight) x 15
    Leg presses (X Reps) 1 set: 200kgx8 with 10 x-reps
    Leg press calf raises 120kg x20, 120x15 with 6 x reps

    Standing calf raises
    2 sets: 35kgx20>30 kg x15 (6xreps at the end of dropset.)
    Seated calf raises
    50kg x12> 40kgx8 6 xreps
    I'm curious about your final thoughts on the Anabeta/Erase stack. I'm wondering if I should give anabeta another go or not. I'm about to finish up a Erase/Titanium stack and I've LOVED it.

  22. Hey Rahl

    I haven't forgotten. I finished erase today and got some progress pics. I just need to get someone to take a lat shot for me. I'll write a final review when i have all the pictures. It was a bit dark at the gym today because of the weather though, so hopefully they turn out okay. Otherwise ill have to take them again.
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  23. Photos!
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  24. Always! no log is truly a log without pictures. IMO pictures speak louder than words.

    I would have done it tonight, but i was seeing Xzibit live. I just got back from his show. It was off the chain.
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  25. Final results/review


    Okay id really like to thank pes for the opportunity they gave me here to log their product. I made my best effort the entire time to get the most out of this stack. Overall i dropped a good amount of body fat. I started on day one at 85 kg at 15.5% body fat and finished at 81.4 at 12%. My hips started at 37 inches and finished at 33.5. My waist was 35.5 inches and is now 31.5. However, i went and did a skinfold reading and measured 10% bodyfat as well.

    However, words dont mean a thing- i'll let the pictures speak for themselves.

    Ive decided i wont rate everything out of 10. However i will give pros and cons of each.



    Anabeta/Alpha-t2
    I had already been trimming down for about 5 weeks before i started this log. My strength had been declining slowly (understandably). So i thought these two would be a great way of kicking this stack off. While on this part of the stack i noticed that when i was in the gym i really worked hard-i pushed harder than ever before. I had not cut my calories as drastically at this point and was setting new pr's on every aparatus. My strength was through the roof and I was sweating like crazy. I was actually beating pr's i hit while i was bulking. I did notice a strength gain in my solo anabeta log as well, and it kicked in at about week 2 both times. My vascularity also started to become quite noticeable towards the end and i even got a few comments from people in the gym.

    I found the stims in at2 helped me keep going throughout the day and i did not need as much caffeine as usual. I also felt like i had to do a lot of cardio after each workout while combining these two supplements. I think this was detrimental and i lost some muscle mass towards the end as i was doing too much cardio after long weight sessions. Really i should have known better. The only real problem i had came from AT2. Sometimes(not all the time) it have me a strong rapid heart beat. This often made it difficult for high intensity cardio like basketball and i struggled in some games.

    Pros:
    Strength gain (while not reducing calories too much)
    Increased vascularity
    Strong drive
    Increased energy
    Very strong thermogenic effect.
    Cons
    Sometimes affected heart rate.



    Anabeta/Erase
    This was the second half od the stack which i started after a week break due to sickness. Both kicked in pretty quickly and i could feel a major difference on erase. I actually preferred this stack because i did get an increased heart rate and really noticed an increase in endurance. What i was really impressed with about this part of the stack is that i started to recomp even on a fairly large calory deficit. For example, one week i lost .6% of body fat, had the same hydration levels, but only lost 100 grams. I was very impressed.

    For comparison sake i'll mention that my strength went down while i was sick. While i was not eating as much as before i did notice my strength do back up. I was not setting pr's, but i was not disapointed non the less.

    The other prominent pros were the vascularity, and the positive emotional feelings this gave me. I woke up feeling like the f*cking man some days. And I really noticed the leaning effects of erase. I really noticed this in my face and mid section. After being off of it a few days though ive had a little water come back in to these areas. I wish i took the photos of my abs before today-lol.

    The only con from this that i can recall is acne. It wasnt bad, i just got a few big red zits. My joints also started getting a little tight towards the end of the bottle. I then started to tapper down.

    Pros
    Strong recomp effect
    Great sence of well being
    Flushes water
    Increased endurance
    Further increased vascularity

    Cons
    Acne
    Tight joints towards the end.

    Would i use this again?
    Yes. Id love to try them all at once but im a big fan of Anabeta/erase.

    In summary
    I'd like to Thank PES again for the opportunity for logging this. Thankyou natty for initiating the offer and Ben for your support and advice throughout-- If you are ever looking for someone to log any new products i would be more than happy too. Its been a great run.


    Pictures.

    Unfortunately I couldn't get a lat shot yet but i tried to do similar shots to the before photos. Ive got a few extras as well. I'll try get a lat shot up tomorrow. All photos were taken cold with no pump.

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    I filled these pants out prior to this log

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    ~Get shredded or die trying! The alphamine chapter~
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213632-get-shredded-die.html

  26. Pants tell the story. Great work.
    “Beastmode is when you can not possibly go any further, but then you make a conscious choice to move forward”.

  27. Thanks mate. It was hard work. Id like to get a little trimmer, but i dont think i want to loose much more weight. However i definatly need a break from dieting. Im going to try maintain for december with christmas and holidays comming up and then see what i can do in January.
    ~Get shredded or die trying! The alphamine chapter~
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213632-get-shredded-die.html

  28. Bigger in the arms bro.
    Looking meaner!!!
    Maintain for while?then lean bulk/recomp a bit later? Good work man. What was your average intake of carbs per day?
    ...::: Olympus Labs Representative :::...
    Crossfit - DEMIGOD -

  29. Thanks mate! My arms are actually smaller by 1/2 an inch but they look a lot better!

    I didnt count all of my carbs- i ate as many vegetabels as i wanted. I did count starchy carbs though. The most effective was when i limited to 1 meal post workout with 70gc arbs. I had a refeed every 4-5 days or when i felt i needed it if i went longer. I also threw in a bananna every now and then on weight days.
    ~Get shredded or die trying! The alphamine chapter~
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213632-get-shredded-die.html

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic
    Thanks mate! My arms are actually smaller by 1/2 an inch but they look a lot better!

    I didnt count all of my carbs- i ate as many vegetabels as i wanted. I did count starchy carbs though. The most effective was when i limited to 1 meal post workout with 70gc arbs. I had a refeed every 4-5 days or when i felt i needed it if i went longer. I also threw in a bananna every now and then on weight days.
    Killer man!!! Good work...if u strayed from
    Gluten you would probably got a little settling from any inflammation...
    ...::: Olympus Labs Representative :::...
    Crossfit - DEMIGOD -
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