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  1.  09-10-2011  07:05 PM
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    Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Great review bud! I could see how taking it with a meal would make for a better libido boost due to the nettle being absorbed better.

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    Hmm I didnt even think about this. Im definitely going to take it with food tonight.

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    Resurrecting this bc Kleen told me u were on trt while using this, as I am and wish to use this soon... About how far apart are the doses? Would something like 11am, 6pm, 9pm work? Or Is there a 'minimum' time needed between doses ? Thanks, can't wait to try out what seems to be a forum favorite (will be using with erase and androderm patch)
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Resurrecting this bc Kleen told me u were on trt while using this, as I am and wish to use this soon... About how far apart are the doses? Would something like 11am, 6pm, 9pm work? Or Is there a 'minimum' time needed between doses ? Thanks, can't wait to try out what seems to be a forum favorite (will be using with erase and androderm patch)
    not sure how important timing is, that protocal should be fine, imo....together with erase and androderm should be nice, if you look at charts for free test while using androderm and androgel free test is very low percentage wise, i think endosurge will be of great benefit...
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    Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    not sure how important timing is, that protocal should be fine, imo....together with erase and androderm should be nice, if you look at charts for free test while using androderm and androgel free test is very low percentage wise, i think endosurge will be of great benefit...
    1 other thing, if you can afford it get some dermacrine, if not buy some dhea-50mg daily should be fine!!!
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  5.  10-20-2012  10:58 PM
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    Originally Posted by thebigt

    1 other thing, if you can afford it get some dermacrine, if not buy some dhea-50mg daily should be fine!!!
    What will these things do / accomplish?
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    im intertedin thi as well.........im runnin eraeright now, should i throw in endourge as welll..........im also on trt

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    Originally Posted by mkretz
    im intertedin thi as well.........im runnin eraeright now, should i throw in endourge as welll..........im also on trt
    What trt r u on
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  8.  10-21-2012  05:11 PM
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    What will these things do / accomplish?

    endosurge will free up test, looking at charts on trt products like androderm/gel and test cyp, most of the test is bound and very little is free or circulating where it it useful. as to the dermacrine when you are shutdown, which you will be on trt, you not only don't make test but also no dhea which is needed for a lot of beneficial things.
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    Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    im intertedin thi as well.........im runnin eraeright now, should i throw in endourge as welll..........im also on trt
    hell yeah, when you are on trt endosurge will make a really noticeable difference-even more so than for guys not on trt. i absolutely love endosurge as a compliment to my trt.
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    Originally Posted by thebigt

    endosurge will free up test, looking at charts on trt products like androderm/gel and test cyp, most of the test is bound and very little is free or circulating where it it useful. as to the dermacrine when you are shutdown, which you will be on trt, you not only don't make test but also no dhea which is needed for a lot of beneficial things.
    I'm sold on the endo but dermacrine I'm wary about, don't wanna use too much at once, ya know
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  11.  10-21-2012  05:38 PM
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I'm sold on the endo but dermacrine I'm wary about, don't wanna use too much at once, ya know
    i understand completely...if you are on trt and don't want to get dermacrine you should at least get some oral dhea-50mg daily should be plenty, imo. but i highly recommend the endosurge, there are graphs to be found that show how little of the test you get from trt is free, you would be amazed!!!!
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    What trt r u on

    100mgs test cyp per week..........you?

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    thanks alot for the info....... i think i have some 7-keto dhea still 50 mgs?..........im def gonna use endourge once my erase is out thanks again!! REPS!

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    Originally Posted by mkretz
    thanks alot for the info....... i think i have some 7-keto dhea still 50 mgs?..........im def gonna use endourge once my erase is out thanks again!! REPS!
    7 keto is way diff than dhea I'm almost positive.. And erase+endosurge is probably your best bet..

    I'm on a low dose androderm patch. I'm only a week in..
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    7 keto is way diff than dhea I'm almost positive.. And erase+endosurge is probably your best bet..

    I'm on a low dose androderm patch. I'm only a week in..
    i had a few sample androderm patches...effective, but a pain in the rear..1 they don't stay on very well i ended up putting them on my arm and using a wrap to keep them on.and 2 they cause horrible itching and patches.



    i agree that erase/endosurge are great addition to trt...but dhea should be included.

    do some research on dhea and trt!!!
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    so i need just dhea not 7 -ketodhea?

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    Originally Posted by thebigt

    i had a few sample androderm patches...effective, but a pain in the rear..1 they don't stay on very well i ended up putting them on my arm and using a wrap to keep them on.and 2 they cause horrible itching and patches.

    i agree that erase/endosurge are great addition to trt...but dhea should be included.

    do some research on dhea and trt!!!
    I will later on tn when I cant sleeplol. The patch does not irritate me at all actually, and it stayed on thru every workout including hiit cardio! I feel like it is most effective/absorbed when on my stomach and least effective when on my thighs, which I has to shave little spots into lol. I can't put on my arms bc there's tatts
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    Originally Posted by mkretz
    so i need just dhea not 7 -ketodhea?
    Yes
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Yes
    INDEED.
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    Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I will later on tn when I cant sleeplol. The patch does not irritate me at all actually, and it stayed on thru every workout including hiit cardio! I feel like it is most effective/absorbed when on my stomach and least effective when on my thighs, which I has to shave little spots into lol. I can't put on my arms bc there's tatts
    you are lucky then, i thought the androderm patches were effective but didn't like them for the reasons i said earlier, if these aren't issues for you then you are good to go!!!
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