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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    you are lucky then, i thought the androderm patches were effective but didn't like them for the reasons i said earlier, if these aren't issues for you then you are good to go!!!
    Awesome

    I admit the ONLY set back is needing to apply same time at night.. I was out with my gf Friday night and we had to cut it short to go home.. It's still new to me so i didn't think to plan ahead and bring a new one with me for a quick switch.
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    it seems dhea has a very god chance of converting to e2 especially oral versions.........not worth it, unless endosurge stop this conversion, but i dont think iw ant to risk it without something to counteract that
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Awesome

    I admit the ONLY set back is needing to apply same time at night.. I was out with my gf Friday night and we had to cut it short to go home.. It's still new to me so i didn't think to plan ahead and bring a new one with me for a quick switch.
    lol...you can carry patches to put on anywhere, 10 gms of androgel on the other hand-good lord that is a lot, takes forever to put it on!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    it seems dhea has a very god chance of converting to e2 especially oral versions.........not worth it, unless endosurge stop this conversion, but i dont think iw ant to risk it without something to counteract that
    you are looking at dhea being used by someone who is making their own test.

    google dhea and trt...special set of cicumstances for us on trt, we aren't making any dhea-or at least not enough!!!
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    thats exactly what was being discussed...........so you are sayin no sides with oral even?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    thats exactly what was being discussed...........so you are sayin no sides with oral even?
    no one can say you won't have sides on anything until you try it and see.....but what i will say is dhea is beneficial to those on trt, even those who don't recommend dhea to others will recommend it to those on trt. i have been using dhea for the last 3 years while on trt, i do quite a few cycles of otc ai's but not continuously and my estrogen level has never been out of the normal range, and i was on 200mg weekly of test cyp!!!


    i don't recommend over 50mg, hell you might even try 25mg to start and see if you do have any sides.
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    Big t- can I put the patch on the inside of my bicep? I don't have tats there.. But outer arm n tris I do.

    Edit- I did hah. It felt like it wasn't getting thru on my back. I wonder if that's why my mood has been declining the last two days and sleep has been very poor. Perhaps not getting good absorption.. I've had it on my thighs and they're VERY thick.. Dense muscle, lil bf, THICK skin.. My abs and arms r very thin skinned and seem much more permeable/porous. Usually I can feel my skin sucking it in and I hacent had that past two application sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    no one can say you won't have sides on anything until you try it and see.....but what i will say is dhea is beneficial to those on trt, even those who don't recommend dhea to others will recommend it to those on trt. i have been using dhea for the last 3 years while on trt, i do quite a few cycles of otc ai's but not continuously and my estrogen level has never been out of the normal range, and i was on 200mg weekly of test cyp!!!

    i don't recommend over 50mg, hell you might even try 25mg to start and see if you do have any sides.



    Listen to this man.

    Dhea will do wondrous things for those on trt but dose should be low to moderate. This will supply you with many of the beneficial metabolites not available from testosterone itself.

    An ai May need to be used, but such is the case with trt regardless.

    I honestly DON'T rec straight dhea use by otherwise healthy men with functioning endocrine systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    no one can say you won't have sides on anything until you try it and see.....but what i will say is dhea is beneficial to those on trt, even those who don't recommend dhea to others will recommend it to those on trt. i have been using dhea for the last 3 years while on trt, i do quite a few cycles of otc ai's but not continuously and my estrogen level has never been out of the normal range, and i was on 200mg weekly of test cyp!!!


    i don't recommend over 50mg, hell you might even try 25mg to start and see if you do have any sides.
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    While not on TRT myself, seasoned gents such as myself react nicely to DHEA. I get a tremendous bump of energy and a sense of well being while running it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    While not on TRT myself, seasoned gents such as myself react nicely to DHEA. I get a tremendous bump of energy and a sense of well being while running it.
    It has great neurological effects and DHEA is produced endogenously by the adrenal gland,
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Big t- can I put the patch on the inside of my bicep? I don't have tats there.. But outer arm n tris I do.

    Edit- I did hah. It felt like it wasn't getting thru on my back. I wonder if that's why my mood has been declining the last two days and sleep has been very poor. Perhaps not getting good absorption.. I've had it on my thighs and they're VERY thick.. Dense muscle, lil bf, THICK skin.. My abs and arms r very thin skinned and seem much more permeable/porous. Usually I can feel my skin sucking it in and I hacent had that past two application sites.

    Sorry for turning this into my little trt q&a thread btw!
    inner arms is a great spot, imo.....here is a tip i found with androderm patches. there was considerable amount of base inactive gel left in the patch when it took it off, so i used scissors and cut it in half, then squeezed out the remaining gel and rubbed it in on my shoulders...whatever active was left in the patch was fast acting when applied this way, i got a nice little bump right away-hell maybe it was placebo, who knows all i know is i liked it, lol..
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    also i found that if you want to make it last, even a half dose of dermacrine will be noticeable!!!

    but at least do the 25mg of oral dhea and see for yourself!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post



    Listen to this man.

    Dhea will do wondrous things for those on trt but dose should be low to moderate. This will supply you with many of the beneficial metabolites not available from testosterone itself.

    An ai May need to be used, but such is the case with trt regardless.

    I honestly DON'T rec straight dhea use by otherwise healthy men with functioning endocrine systems.
    damn...i really wanted to give you rep points, but i forgot that when you do the thanks thing you can't give reps also-next time!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt

    inner arms is a great spot, imo.....here is a tip i found with androderm patches. there was considerable amount of base inactive gel left in the patch when it took it off, so i used scissors and cut it in half, then squeezed out the remaining gel and rubbed it in on my shoulders...whatever active was left in the patch was fast acting when applied this way, i got a nice little bump right away-hell maybe it was placebo, who knows all i know is i liked it, lol..
    Alright cool.

    Lol @cutting it open, wouldn't that screw up the results? my dr will think I'm getting those numbers from just the 2mg rather than what I'm actUally doing.. All I know is today I feel like ****.. Very weak, foggy, did not sleep n didn't wanna wake up or work out.. But I always force myself. I believe this indicates a)shut down and b) I need a a higher dose
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    Extenze has dhea and pregnenolone.. On top of everything else ..Bad idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    damn...i really wanted to give you rep points, but i forgot that when you do the thanks thing you can't give reps also-next time!!!!
    i got him for ya.... :-)
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    i just started endosurge last night and today........alng with erase pro, is it ok to now add in dhea?
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    Just read that dhea can free up bound test while on TRT and help prevent hormonal cancers.. My main concern is that it can metabolize to estrogen... Would it make sense then to only run dhea at 8 weeks on/ 4 off with an AI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Extenze has dhea and pregnenolone.. On top of everything else ..Bad idea?
    lol...i actually like extenze-great boners if nothing else, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Just read that dhea can free up bound test while on TRT and help prevent hormonal cancers.. My main concern is that it can metabolize to estrogen... Would it make sense then to only run dhea at 8 weeks on/ 4 off with an AI?
    test aromatases to estrogen also, does that mean you are going to cycle it, lol. you are focusing too much on the negative, there are a ton of benefits from dhea-just use a low dose to start!!! using an ai is not a bad idea though!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    i just started endosurge last night and today........alng with erase pro, is it ok to now add in dhea?
    absolutely...do it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Alright cool.

    Lol @cutting it open, wouldn't that screw up the results? my dr will think I'm getting those numbers from just the 2mg rather than what I'm actUally doing.. All I know is today I feel like ****.. Very weak, foggy, did not sleep n didn't wanna wake up or work out.. But I always force myself. I believe this indicates a)shut down and b) I need a a higher dose
    b] i agree you probably need a higher dose, the patches i had were 5mg.

    i got good results putting the patch on my inner arm, try it there and see if that helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza
    Extenze has dhea and pregnenolone.. On top of everything else ..Bad idea?
    Hmmmm, extenze.... why?

    Cheaper and safer would be some research chemicals.... either tadalafil or sildinafil (viagra and cialis) or ask the doc for a scrip.

    No reason to take that jumbled up joke of a male enhancement pill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough
    Hmmmm, extenze.... why?

    Cheaper and safer would be some research chemicals.... either tadalafil or sildinafil (viagra and cialis) or ask the doc for a scrip.

    No reason to take that jumbled up joke of a male enhancement pill
    Yea lol just asking bc I had used it a couple years ago for a month or two when inwas having issues from Prozac. But I've been of anti deptessans over two years now
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz

    i got him for ya.... :-)
    Lol, thanks bro.
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    ordered dhea last night, jsut 100 25mg caps, wouldve gotten teh 100 100 mg caps but hats way too much although it was wayyyy cheaper
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    what do u guy think of age force dhea patches? think its a good idea, they got a sick 2 for 1 deal goinon till sunday....think i hsould jump on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    what do u guy think of age force dhea patches? think its a good idea, they got a sick 2 for 1 deal goinon till sunday....think i hsould jump on it?
    lol...other than this was[is]a bps sponsored log....i have been curious about those patches.

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    price is little hefty o i was only gonna get them if people thought highly of them cuz it seems like a good idea, especially since dermacrine is out on nutra
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    price is little hefty o i was only gonna get them if people thought highly of them cuz it seems like a good idea, especially since dermacrine is out on nutra
    i think bps is reformulating dermacrine!!!! there is a thread in bps subsection about it. i am kinda excited to see what they come up with!!!
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    hmmm im down for an introductory sale haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkretz View Post
    hmmm im down for an introductory sale haha
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    well....i couldnt resist, i bought the patches, i will run the pills i got first then try the patchesim getting a 60day supple for $40 which is pretty good andi signed up for the autoship in case it works well.........woudl thesehaveto be cycled?
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