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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    pre-loading started 2 weeks prior to today. definitely noticed energy increase from all the carbs, animal pak, and some placebo effect i'm sure. I'm looking forward to the next few weeks, if your log is any indication
    idk if i asked you this, but are you gunna be using p-5-p as a support supp? because this is the healthiest PH cycle i've ever had, and the only difference this time is the P-5-P and that I'm being more consistent with my cycle support (2 cycles i didn't use a cycle support, only liver care, and 1 cycle i had the powder form cycle assist and i always forgot to take it.)
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    Day 28: Bis & Cardio
    11min max incline @ 3.0-3.4 speed
    standing db curls: 30x10, 35x10, 40x10, 45x7, 50x5
    wide preacher curls: bar+20 x10, bar+30 x10, bar+40 x10, bar+50 x8, dropset all the way back down
    cable overhand curls: did a bunch of lightweight
    bent over db curl: 20x10, 25x10, 25x10, 20x10
    hanging leg raises/decline bench crunches/bosu ball leg raises/bicycle crunches
    15min bike @ 8-9 resistance

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    2 top ramen, bad idea, but oh well, was craving it.

    Notes: Week 4 is DONE! im up ~20lbs, but my lbm is slowly rising . Seems that I have experienced zero shutdown to this point. in the past it's usually been an issue, but i guess the support supps are helping. I plan on staying @ 120mg for week 5, and increasing my epi dose to 54mg/day. Took some pics. I feel like theres been some improvements not so happy about putting on some fat, but it'll be easy to shake off later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 808rebel View Post
    idk if i asked you this, but are you gunna be using p-5-p as a support supp? because this is the healthiest PH cycle i've ever had, and the only difference this time is the P-5-P and that I'm being more consistent with my cycle support (2 cycles i didn't use a cycle support, only liver care, and 1 cycle i had the powder form cycle assist and i always forgot to take it.)

    Actually i'm prescribing to jbryand101b's method of preventing prolactin sides by throwing in P-Stanz @ 300mg e/d with the pro dienolone and havoc. The p-stanz, which is essentially winstrol with an attached thp ether group, is supposed to bind with the prolactin receptor without reacting. This blocks the 19-nor from binding with the prolactin receptor, which otherwise, could potentially cause the sides.

    I will let you know about my progress and if this method worked for me for preventing the sides.
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    btw...you're getting amazing results through 4 weeks.

    I'm glad you can get such dramatic results in only 28 days on this stack...since I will not be doing weeks 5 and 6.

    Great Log man, keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    Actually i'm prescribing to jbryand101b's method of preventing prolactin sides by throwing in P-Stanz @ 300mg e/d with the pro dienolone and havoc. The p-stanz, which is essentially winstrol with an attached thp ether group, is supposed to bind with the prolactin receptor without reacting. This blocks the 19-nor from binding with the prolactin receptor, which otherwise, could potentially cause the sides.

    I will let you know about my progress and if this method worked for me for preventing the sides.
    that sounds like a good way to combat prolactin issues. would it be overkill to use p5p? stuff is only like 8 dollars. i'll leave it up to you, i'm just reccomending it because im having a good cycle with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    btw...you're getting amazing results through 4 weeks.

    I'm glad you can get such dramatic results in only 28 days on this stack...since I will not be doing weeks 5 and 6.

    Great Log man, keep it up!
    thanks man. i dont think anyone else is paying attention to this log lol :/ maybe i shouldve tried to come up with a more clever title, lol....nahhhhhh
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    Day 29: Shoulders

    Standing BB OHP: 95x5, 115x5, 135x5, 145x5, 155x5, 155x5, 135x5, 135x5, dropset 115x5, 95x6
    Upright BB Rows: 85x10, 95x10, 105x10, 105x10, dropset, 95x10, 85x10
    Seated DB OHP: 50x5, 60x5, 70x5, 75x5, 80x3 (some jackass walked infront of me and ruined my set), 80x5, 75x5, 70x5 dropset 60x5,
    Cable OHP/front raises: lightweight, trying to isolate my front delt
    Farmer's Walk (approx. 100M around the weightroom): 90s, 100s, 110s, 120s

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    Notes: Today was the first day @ 56mg of epi (3 pills Edge). I didn't notice much difference. I think I felt some joint discomfort, but idk. We'll see....aside from that the lifts keep going up
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    Day 30: Legs

    ATG BB Squats: 135x8, 185x5, 225x5, 275x5, 295x5, 315x4, 315x3, dropset 225x5, 135x10
    Deadlifts: 225x5, 315x5, 405x5, 455x1, 455x1 (wasn't feeling it today on deads)
    plate-loaded single-leg leg extensions: 45x10, 90x10, 115x10, 135x8

    Got some video of 2 of my squat sets.





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    notes: Things are going well. No gyno, no shutdown, no lethargy, nothing. Im continuing to make gains, and even if I were to end the cycle soon, I would be very satisfied with it. Also, I was 227 this morning and post workout, which is a to me because it looks like im shedding some of the fat that I put on in the beginning of the cycle...alll while Im still getting bigger and stronger
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    Not to hijack, but just a quick DAY 4 update...

    I am blown away by how quick this stack (specifically, pro dienolone) takes effect. Only 4 days in and I'm already seeing extremely quick recovery, better stamina, and slight strength increases....all of which are too pronounced to attribute solely to increased carbs/calories, so it has to be the compound. I can't wait until the havoc kicks in...

    Keep it up man, very impressive results so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    Not to hijack, but just a quick DAY 4 update...

    I am blown away by how quick this stack (specifically, pro dienolone) takes effect. Only 4 days in and I'm already seeing extremely quick recovery, better stamina, and slight strength increases....all of which are too pronounced to attribute solely to increased carbs/calories, so it has to be the compound. I can't wait until the havoc kicks in...

    Keep it up man, very impressive results so far
    it's a beautiful thing, lol.... best of luck to you man. kill it! It's gunna be a fun ride.
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    Day 31: Chest

    Flat BB Bench: 135x8, 185x5, 205x5, 235x5, 255x5, 255x4, 255x4, 255x3
    DB Floor Press: 85x5, 90x5, 95x5, 95x5
    Standing BB OHP: 135x5, 135x5, 140x5
    Weighted Dips: BWx5, BW+25 x5, BW+35 x5
    Skull Crushers: 80x12, 80x10, 80x8
    Lightweight Incline DB: 40, 50, 60, 65
    Single-arm sideways decline machine press: 3-4 sets real light weight burnout
    quick cable tricep extension burnout

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    Notes: So my lifts didn't improve this workout but boy did I have a good workout. Followed a buddies routine today, it was nice to do something different, and to have a spotter. Definitely worked the muscle better than the past couple workouts.

    sidenote: I may be starting to feel lethargic from the cycle. I know for a fact that Im feeling some mild shutdown. I may pull the plug at the end of week 5. hopefully not sooner. The increased epi dose is bothering my rotator cuff, i may go back down to 2 pills epi/day. matter of fact, yes, im going back to 2 pills..lol
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    Day 32: Back

    I was having trouble engaging the same muscles in my left lat/back that i tend to engage on my right side, so I worked on symmetry all day. Doing non stop sets for high reps and low weight.
    Bent over row BB and DB, Cable lat pulldowns, cable lat pushdowns, cable rows, single arm cable rows.

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    Day 33: Shoulders

    My rear delt was still sore from a couple days prior, so I couldn't go all out, but I did have another solid workout.

    Standing BB OHP: 95x5, 115x5, 135x5, 145x5, 145x5, 145x5, 135x5, dropset 115x6, 95x8
    Seated DB OHP: 60x8, 70x5, 75x5, 75x5, 70x5, 50x11, 50x12
    Upright BB Row: 65x10, x3
    Reverse Narrow Grip OHP: 45x15, 65x15, 65x15, 45x20
    Front Raises: 45x10, x6 (alternating grip)

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    Notes: My gains are beginning to slow down. But Im still making slow gains. I feel like im going to be able to keep these gains. My libido has taken a hit. I dont feel lethargic at all, so I can keep on going. But my junk aint really working. Sometimes he'll work, but randomly. My gf ain't diggin it. I may start my Titanium soon.
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    Day 34: Legs

    ATG BB Squats: 135x8, 185x5, 205x5, 225x5, 275x5, 295x5, 315x5 (FINALLY GOT TO MY 5-REP GOAL!!! ), 325x3, 225x5, 135x5
    Bulgarian Split Squat: 50x5 (each leg), 40x8, 40x10, 40x10, BW x12

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    Notes: Im completely stoked about hitting my squat goal. I was determined to get it before my cycle ended. On another note, my libido is screwed. Im starting my test booster today. Hopefully it'll help or else week 6 is gunna be miserable, or week 6 aint gunna happen.
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    You throwing in some daa or saving it for PCT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    You throwing in some daa or saving it for PCT?
    no daa. titanium was the planned test booster. I started it today and im gunna run it all the way through. Day 1 of Pct im starting the clomid, anabeta, and iForce reversitol v2.
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    Day 35: Rest/ Bis

    Planned on a rest day, but got too bored. went and hit my bis
    Assisted Chinups superset Overhand-grip standing curls (ez curl bar): 3 sets
    Standing DB Hammers superset Standing curls (ez curl bar): 3 sets
    Single arm cable curl superset cable curl: 3 sets

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    Week 5 Analysis: So my weight hasn't changed much since a couple weeks ago. Although my strength continues to slowly go up, and my body appearance continues to change. I truely feel like I won't lose much strength after this cycle, because I feel like i've solidified the rapid gains. I'll try n get a pic one of these days, but i've really been putting off cardio, so Im holding a bit of fat and some water.

    Bench: 225x5 ----> 255x5
    Standing BB OHP: 135x5 (barely, more like 125x5) ----> 145x5
    ATG squat: 225x5------> 315x5
    Deadlift 405x2 ------> 405x5 (with ease)

    Stength gains may not seem too impressive, but with strict form, the difference is night and day.
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    Day 36: Chest
    BB Flat Bench: 135x8, 185x5, 205x5, 225x5, 245x5, 255x5, 265x5 (4/5rep w/ spot), 245x5, 225x5, 135x10
    Incline DB Bench: 70x8, 80x5, 85x5, 75x6, 60x10
    Single-arm sideways decline machine: 45x10, 70x10, 90x10, 90x10, 45x12
    Cable incline fly superset cable decline fly: burnout, ~4 sets

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    Day 37: Back
    Deadlifts (Controlled Lift, w/ 5-sec controlled drop): 225x5, 315x5, 365x5, 365x5, 315x5, 225x6, 225x8
    Cable Lat Pulldown: 130-160 range, focussed on lat contraction, 10+reps/set
    T-Bar Rows: various grips, 1 and 2 handed, 25-90lbs for 10reps/set
    Standing DB Curls: 35x10, 45x8, 45x7, 45x6, 35x10
    Couple other bicep burnouts

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    Notes: Still going strong. Im happy i started my test booster because now everything is working, and I literally have zero sides even in week 6. My gains are slowing, but im not really seeking more gains, I just want to solidify what I've accomplished in the past weeks.

    Pics: These are from today, weighing in at exactly 227.0, looks like i shed some of the fat I put on.


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    Looking amazing man...

    Got a question for you...I'm only through day 11 here, and have been really impressed so far, though I am definitely noticing more strength (proportionally) in my compound lifts/large muscle groups as opposed to smaller muscle groups like chest and shoulders. Is this what you experienced or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    Looking amazing man...

    Got a question for you...I'm only through day 11 here, and have been really impressed so far, though I am definitely noticing more strength (proportionally) in my compound lifts/large muscle groups as opposed to smaller muscle groups like chest and shoulders. Is this what you experienced or not?
    Thanks.

    I experienced just about the same thing. My back and leg exercises sky rocketed, while i made slow and steady progress on my overhead press and my bench press. I really wouldnt want super-fast chest/shoulder improvement, because I know I wouldn't be able to keep it after the cycle, and theres so much risk of injury.
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    Day 38: Shoulders
    Standing BB OHP: 95x5, 115x5, 135x5, 145x5, 150x5, 150x5, 135x5, 115x5, 95x5
    Seated DB OHP: 60x8, 70x5, 75x5, 80xfail, wasnt feeling it, 70x5,
    Superset DB Front raises w/ DB Rear-Delt Row
    Burnout on Shoulder Press machine

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    Day 39: Rest

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    Day 40: Legs
    ATG Squat: 135x8, 185x5, 225x5, 275x5, 295x5, 315x5, 315x2 (wasnt feeling it)
    Bulgarian Split Squat: 40s x10, x3, 30x10, x2, BWx10

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    Day 41: Chest
    Flat BB Bench: 135x8, 185x5, 205x5, 225x5, 245x5, 255x5, 265x5 (w/ spot), 225x5, dropset 185x9, 135x12
    Incline DB Bench: 70x6, 80x5, 85x5, x2, 75x8,
    Sideways-seated single-arm Decline Bench Machine: 45x12, 70x10, x2, dropset 45x10
    Incline Cable Flyes superset decline cable flyes: 3-4 sets, lightweight

    Day 42: Back
    Bent Over BB Row (Overhand): 135x10, 185x10, 205x10, x2, 185x10, 135x15
    Single-Arm T-Bar Rows: 45x10, 55x10, 70x10, 70x10, dropset 45x12
    Machine Lat Pulldown: 90x10, 140x10, 180x10, 90x15

    I'll write a conclusion to it when I take my after picutre (probably later today).
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    Hey buddy, any updates, pics or at least final thoughts?

    I'm just about to enter my final week. Def loving it, but the havoc @ 40 seems to be drying my joints and affecting my lifts a bit.

    Already looking ahead, and thinking next time I may sub hdrol or pmag for the epi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    Hey buddy, any updates, pics or at least final thoughts?

    I'm just about to enter my final week. Def loving it, but the havoc @ 40 seems to be drying my joints and affecting my lifts a bit.

    Already looking ahead, and thinking next time I may sub hdrol or pmag for the epi
    = )
    thanks for reminding me! ever since i started my other log I totally forgot about summing it up. but I know what u mean about the epi drying out ur joints. That's the whole reason I stuck at 2 pills/day for the entire cycle, when i went to 3 pills/day it was just brutal. my mind was more concerned about the pain, and anything that takes away from my focus is
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    how long did it take you to notice the effects from the bump up to 120mg of the pro dienolone? I just (re)counted my x-tren and realized I have enough for 120 these last 4 days...was just wondering if it was even worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    how long did it take you to notice the effects from the bump up to 120mg of the pro dienolone? I just (re)counted my x-tren and realized I have enough for 120 these last 4 days...was just wondering if it was even worth it.
    mildly noticed it immediately. Id say go for it bro, why not? what else are u gunna do with a couple extra pills?
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    That's kind of what I was thinking. Best option probably to dose 60mg pre workout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gstavman View Post
    That's kind of what I was thinking. Best option probably to dose 60mg pre workout?
    u know, im not sure. I was dosing it 1AM, 1preworkout, 1post workout, and 1PM. U'll probably notice it most if u take 60mg preworkout tho...u should probably do that.
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