mattrag's first log! AnaBeta/PCT Black/ShredMatrix for a Lit-up Halloween

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  1. on the aspect of PCT.
    Week 3 ended well. I'm stopping my SERM. Just because I feel I don't need it really. THis PCT has been great so far and I felt completely recovered after week 2. Added in PCT Black revolution by FinaFlex and now i'm pretty much back.
    Also, was feeling kinda really low estrogenic with the addition of FinaFlex. Lower Libido, a bit drier than usual so I think my hormones have rebalanced. Which means~~~ I can start planning my next run

    I know I should wait...but honestly... I figure I'll wait about 4 more weeks then start it up instead of waiting the full 8.

    I don't drink, I take liver supps etc. Plus I know the risks. I should be getting my liver/kidney enzyme levels checked soon too. So i'll know if my LDL/HDL levels are too outta whack.

    Funds are low but I have enough stuff on hand to do mdrol, AndroHardv2, and run a PCT with a SERM (Yes, I am one of those guys who has EVERYTHING on hand hahah). Also, just got my order that I had shipped to hawaii from AI... so I have some goodies from them.

    If nothing else changes I'm plannin on either running 8 weeks of AH with 4 weeks of Mdrol pulsed on w/o days. OR just running Mdrol pulsed. Really depends on how I feel. I liked androhard's strength and feeling of being strong. It also would help with the mdrol's rumored lethargy. I have run Hdrol with no problems.... I wish I logged that run.... I was running hdrol stacked with oxyelite, AP.... too bad I didn't know how to diet correctly.(well not like now)

    Any advice/suggestions would be welcomed
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  2. Yeah stick with the time off is double the time on so you don't screw up your hpta. You should not be doing more than 3 runs in a year and 2 if they are really strong ones. Unless you plan on getting on TRT that is... Stay with your planned 8 weeks man if you cant then you need to think about the fact you are becoming compulsive about it.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah stick with the time off is double the time on so you don't screw up your hpta. You should not be doing more than 3 runs in a year and 2 if they are really strong ones. Unless you plan on getting on TRT that is... Stay with your planned 8 weeks man if you cant then you need to think about the fact you are becoming compulsive about it.
    yea i probably should give it a rest. stick to natty stuff for the extent of my off time.

    Any suggestions ? lol
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    yea i probably should give it a rest. stick to natty stuff for the extent of my off time.

    Any suggestions ? lol
    Maybe more Anabeta if you enjoyed it and I would add in EndoSurge for sure. Some DAA, and if still wanting more add in a good GH product like HGHpro or Ghenerate. Finaflex is coming out with one but has not been released yet but it looks promising as well.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Maybe more Anabeta if you enjoyed it and I would add in EndoSurge for sure. Some DAA, and if still wanting more add in a good GH product like HGHpro or Ghenerate. Finaflex is coming out with one but has not been released yet but it looks promising as well.
    Looked into endosurge. Looks good. I have never tried 3,4 div b4 but i have heard good things about it. I have HGHpro, might save it for when I run out of ZMA. DAA is in the lit-up I take. Maybe I should wait for the Finaflex GH booster. I like their PCT black.


    I short question on programming. I am currently training to compete in Judo. (87kgs atm) I want to drop to 81kgs. Should I just ditch all hypertrophy type workouts and just focus on like a 5X5? Or do more intricate programming like juggernaut or 5/3/1, or even olympic training programs?

    My lifts are now

    OH press 165X3
    Squat 265X3
    Bench 265X3
    Deadlift 315X2 (last time tested, before i blew my back about 4 weeks ago)

    Thanks for any suggestions.
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  6. To get my squat back up I decided to go with a 5X5 type workout with accessory on off days.

    Todays WO:

    Squat 185lbs
    OH press 135
    Pendalay Row 135

    2hrs of Tennis, 1hr of Judo.

    calories:

    1840

    Fat 70g
    Protein 197g
    Carbs 112g

    Cals pretty good for a burn day.

    Tomorrow im going to be doing some speed work.
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  7. Decided to add some more volume to the squat for form practice.

    5x5 OH Press 135
    5X10 Box Squat 135
    5X5 High Pull 115
    20, 10, 10 Ledge close grip pull ups BW


    Todays workout was done after judo. felt pretty good. Figure I am going to need a workout that incorporates speed, strength, and power. Also, gonna need some hypertrophy.

    Im really liking this one
    http://www.**********************/wor...h-workout.html

    since im cutting now I figure i dont need the hypertrophy.

    Todays cals~

    2100 cals

    175g protein
    144g fat
    20g carbs

    High fat diet. usually does me well.
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  8. quick update. The higher fat diet (came mostly from coconut milk, and the use of a fattier cut of meat) yesterday really seems to have made my muscles harder today... odd. But I like it. Today is going to be pretty rough. Got judo, then I am going to do a full body hypertrophy workout for a friend. Giving him some training. But he wants me to train with him as well. (for motivation)

    I changed the link, oddly it wasn't working before.

    here is it again, this is the workout that I think will be good for my next workout program. Gotta stop with the ADHD on EVERYTHING but Im using the 5X5 as a transition to a more strength related type of programming.
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  9. Yesterday hit 2 hrs of judo. Did a lot of conditioning so I decided to cancel the workout. Good because ill hit it today. Today's workout should be a ATG squat, shoulder press, pendalay row, and going to do a 5RM on sumo deads.

    Small question if anyone has a suggestion. I will probably start a cycle in 4 weeks (when I can start my next one again). Basically goals are to move up in strength/speed and lower my weight. Basically a cutting cycle. Has anyone had any type of experience with this? I've only run PH/DS on a more bodybuilding/aesthetic protocol not a strength/mobility protocol.
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  10. workout~

    8X3 DE squats 135
    5X12 Good mornings 45lbs (2s neg, controlled concentric)

    stair sprints 10 mins~

    Was going to do more but my lower back is still very tender and I dont want to push it. My neck also is very tired so I am probably going to just try get in some pull ups later today for some pulling movement.
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  11. worked out on Saturday. I'll post what I did later, I'm at work and the routine I did is at home.

    Anyway, had a wedding yesterday to attend to. Food was pretty healthy. small lean steak, some baked fish, raw fish, shrimp soup... (japanese course style menu). The after party was pretty bad though...because it was a burn day too...Today I'll make it up.

    Also, I think this log is coming to an end. I had higher hopes for this log, vid updates, pictures... but my home desktop broke and I only have my old slow work laptop. Also, this month I am extremely poor. Just attending my friend's wedding was $300 (in japan you usually give $300 to go to a wedding), and I already was in the hole.... So much stuff to do during the summer lol.
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  12. Final thoughts on AnaBeta, lit-up, and PCT revolution.

    As I said I stacked these three with my SERM for my PCT. I have been told I am looking leaner than when I was on AH+AL, though my weight is only around 1lb less.
    AnaBeta:

    Aggression: 5/10 Didn't notice any increase or decrease going into PCT or throughout PCT. Seemed to be the same the whole way.

    Mood: 8/10 Felt the same as the end of my AH/AL cycle. So pretty much stable mood. No fluctuations.

    Libido: 5/10 What's odd is when I stopped the SERM my libido dropped. So I am not sure if the libido boost in PCT was actually from the SERM.

    Strength: 7/10 Strength obviously tapered down a bit but I feel that my overall "push" was maintained. (Kind of hard because during PCT I started playing tennis and Judo almost daily towards the end).

    Recovery: 9/10 Oddly I feel that my recovery increased on this supplement. It just felt like everything I ate went to rebuilding my muscles. Makes me think this product would do well for those who enjoy long grueling volume style workouts. And can support it with enough food.

    Pumps: Pumps were great on this, not as "hard" as I was on AH/AL but even on low carb I don't feel I fell flat ever.

    Overall: AnaBeta for sure affects Blood sugar levels a bit. Probably has a nutrient partitioning effect. I find that not only carbs feed the beast, but simply by increasing food intake the hypoglycemic feeling people talk about do not manifest. If I had the money I would definitely run it again. I know that I said a volume based workout would benefit from this product but I also think that anytype of training would benefit from taking this product because of it's enhanced muscle synthesis.

    My dosing followed a lean gains diet of an 8hr window, 1 with the fast breaker, 1 b4 workout, 1 after workout and 1 b4 bed. I found that 2 before workout was too much and left my nauseated by the 45min mark. This dosing worked the best for me.
    RecoverBro ELITE

  13. Lit-up


    Aggression: 5/10 Could have been because I just didn't stop taking a pre workout (i.e. let my adrenals recover) that I really didn't notice any aggression from this product.

    Energy: 7/10 I actually like the "bam" that products like jack3d and C4 give. Lit-up is more for a sustained slow up, slow down type person. I am probably also way burned out and my stim tolerance is INSANE. Feeling anything at all from this product shows that it indeed works. I think one scoop for most people would be good enough.

    Libido: 7/10 Lit-up helped in the libido area I think. DAA seems to affect me really well. Sucked though, working out alone in my home... horny ... hhaha

    Strength: 6/10 I don't think it helped much with top end output, more it helped with maintaining my energy levels throughout the workout.

    Recovery: 9/10 Oddly I feel that my recovery increased on this supplement. It just felt like everything I ate went to rebuilding my muscles. Makes me think this product would do well for those who enjoy long grueling volume style workouts. And can support it with enough food.

    Pumps: Pumps were pretty good. I was pretty much pumped ALL THE TIME from AnaBeta that I think this product couldn't really show me what it could do in this area. I'll find out on my next log when I drop the AnaBeta and use the rest of this.

    Taste: 10/10 Over anything this is the single BEST tasting pre workout product I have ever tasted. I look forward to drinking this every workout. When looking for any new product taste is pretty important to me, especially when dieting. This stuff was great. Really sweet. Tasted like juice syrup. Hahah.


    Overall: Lit up definitely sets up a good environment for building muscle. Also, the no loss of appetite after working out really helps you get in the post workout meal. Many times I would not want to eat after working out because of the 1,3 dimm in most products (though when cutting that stuff is great!). I'd run it again.
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  14. PCT revolution black

    My dosing for this started one day 3 of my PCT but then I stopped it because I felt I was lowering estrogen too much. I started up again when I dropped my SERM on week 3. Started with 1 cap at night, then added one cap in the AM on day 4 (week 3 day 4)


    Aggression: 5/10 Didn't notice any increase or decrease going into PCT or throughout PCT. Seemed to be the same the whole way.

    Mood: 9/10 with the addition of the 2nd cap my mood increased. It could be related to the decrease in cortisol in the morning. Carrying me throughout the day with less blood sugar fluctuation.

    Libido: 4/10 What's odd is when I stopped the SERM my libido dropped. So I am not sure if the libido boost in PCT was actually from the SERM. When I added in the 2nd cap of PCT Rev my libido increased a tad bit. But still pretty low over all. It could be I need to keep my dosing of my DAA product to ED.

    Strength: 7/10 I haven't tested this just yet so I can't give a legitimate response but the addition of the 2nd cap seems to have made everything better.

    Recovery: 8/10 After working out my recovery seems to be good. I sleep better with this product. (Though it could be because I stopped taking the SERM)

    Joints: 5/10 unlike erase, where I have to keep the dosing at 2 caps (50mg of the AI). The addition of the 2nd cap (making it 100mgs) has had no negative effects on my joints. So I'm thinking that it could possibly that the last 2 times I have run erase I was simply overtrained (as far my joints go)

    overall: I must say this product has surprised me. Sadly With Erase being cheaper (in stacks) than this product for the main ingred I probably won't be running this again. But if I were to choose a product to run solo PCT Black would win hands down. It's cheaper, it works, and it has a legitimate PCT support complex included.
    RecoverBro ELITE

  15. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    Final thoughts on AnaBeta, lit-up, and PCT revolution.

    As I said I stacked these three with my SERM for my PCT. I have been told I am looking leaner than when I was on AH+AL, though my weight is only around 1lb less.
    AnaBeta:

    Aggression: 5/10 Didn't notice any increase or decrease going into PCT or throughout PCT. Seemed to be the same the whole way.

    Mood: 8/10 Felt the same as the end of my AH/AL cycle. So pretty much stable mood. No fluctuations.

    Libido: 5/10 What's odd is when I stopped the SERM my libido dropped. So I am not sure if the libido boost in PCT was actually from the SERM.

    Strength: 7/10 Strength obviously tapered down a bit but I feel that my overall "push" was maintained. (Kind of hard because during PCT I started playing tennis and Judo almost daily towards the end).

    Recovery: 9/10 Oddly I feel that my recovery increased on this supplement. It just felt like everything I ate went to rebuilding my muscles. Makes me think this product would do well for those who enjoy long grueling volume style workouts. And can support it with enough food.

    Pumps: Pumps were great on this, not as "hard" as I was on AH/AL but even on low carb I don't feel I fell flat ever.

    Overall: AnaBeta for sure affects Blood sugar levels a bit. Probably has a nutrient partitioning effect. I find that not only carbs feed the beast, but simply by increasing food intake the hypoglycemic feeling people talk about do not manifest. If I had the money I would definitely run it again. I know that I said a volume based workout would benefit from this product but I also think that anytype of training would benefit from taking this product because of it's enhanced muscle synthesis.

    My dosing followed a lean gains diet of an 8hr window, 1 with the fast breaker, 1 b4 workout, 1 after workout and 1 b4 bed. I found that 2 before workout was too much and left my nauseated by the 45min mark. This dosing worked the best for me.
    Appreciate the feedback Matt
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Appreciate the feedback Matt
    Thanks for bringing out a great product to the market
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  17. if you like the pumps from AB, try adding CN into the mix
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    if you like the pumps from AB, try adding CN into the mix
    CN as in Creatine Nitrate?
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    if you like the pumps from AB, try adding CN into the mix
    This guy loves CN, would it sound biased if i said I like Neovar better?

    CN is creatine attached to a nitrate, the nitrate gives it better absorption and increase pumps. My opinion on it is that the pumps go away after awhile so not really worth it unless your into that. I'm over it and use bulk mono and Neovar.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by WhatsaRoid? View Post
    This guy loves CN, would it sound biased if i said I like Neovar better?

    CN is creatine attached to a nitrate, the nitrate gives it better absorption and increase pumps. My opinion on it is that the pumps go away after awhile so not really worth it unless your into that. I'm over it and use bulk mono and Neovar.
    Ah I see. I liked neovar hehehe. I just use bulk mono as well.
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  21. 8/30 Workout

    DE bench
    8x3 135lbs
    Weighted pull ups
    5X bw
    5X bw+10kgs
    5X bw+10kgs
    3X bw+10kgs

    Kroc rows (1rm row, max rep set)

    10kgsX10
    10kgsX10
    45kgs X23 (each arm)

    CGBench/EZbar Curl

    50kgsX12/30kgsX12
    50kgsX12/30kgsX12
    50kgsX12/30kgsX12
    50kgsX12/0 (decided to stop curling)

    Wide grip pendalay row/upright row

    30kgsX12/30kgsX12
    30kgsX12/30kgsX12
    30kgsX12/30kgsX12
    30kgsX12/0 (again decided to stop)

    Planks
    60s for 3 sets.

    Also did 3X5 of leg raises... this was pretty sad. (toes to eye level and hold for 1s)

    Liking this style of workout.

    Notes: NEED to get conditioning in. In my supersets I was gasping for air.... Pretty good weighted chins. Have a 10kgs dumbbell in between my thighs and doing um outside on a ledge haha. Rugged.
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  22. ++ on the Conditioning -> I am going to stop the whole all out bulk thing and start doing some jogging again maybe 3 x per week

    those weighted pullups are looking good - do you use a belt for that or just hold a dumbbell with your feet
    Check out my training log @ http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/178943-ss-5x5-whatever.html

  23. Quote Originally Posted by shovelhead76 View Post
    ++ on the Conditioning -> I am going to stop the whole all out bulk thing and start doing some jogging again maybe 3 x per week

    those weighted pullups are looking good - do you use a belt for that or just hold a dumbbell with your feet
    I actually put the dumbbell between my thighs. Mimics having a person there for when I do Judo ground work.
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