Preventing HPTA Suppression with Adamantium (DAA)

[swollen87]

He didn't say what form of DAA he was using nor did he check free test. Sometimes overall test is lower because more is being converted to free test.

test doesnt "convert" to free test

[swollen87]

There is non responders, the link you sent me also showed someone who is on TRT with normal levels of 750-922 at various times of bloodwork and with added DAA with TRT it came out at 1322......I'm sure I could google up DAA and find tons of broscience stating DAA doesn't work, but the studies and results show otherwise.

right, dont misunderstand me please, i am not trying to bash adamantium or daa in any way...i have done plenty of research on daa, and most of the results i cannot argue with .. im just throwing it out there that i have tried using daa to prevent/minimize shutdown and it was marginally effective at best.....

good luck on the rest of the cycle kevin

[schwellington]

*note
just because you dont feel shut down- doesnt mean you arent

you run this and think "hey im not shutdown im gtg" and im going to laugh


really hard

[mnowak1228]

Will you be logging Adamantium during your cycle? if so let me know

If I do log it would be my first time logging. Still trying to decide exactly what I wanna use and how to use it. So far I have a bottle of 1-Andro, plan on picking up another bottle of that and two bottles of 4AD and double dosing at some point during the cycle. Rt now im running Erase+AT2 and I have one more month of these then I wanna start to gain and build. Im big on having a plan in place before I start anything.

[JudgementDay]

right, dont misunderstand me please, i am not trying to bash adamantium or daa in any way...i have done plenty of research on daa, and most of the results i cannot argue with .. im just throwing it out there that i have tried using daa to prevent/minimize shutdown and it was marginally effective at best.....

good luck on the rest of the cycle kevin

We appreciate the feedback on your expierence. It don't think DAA would be strong enough on any strong PH/DS cycle, but hopefully we keep hearing good feedback with the less harsh compounds.

[mnowak1228]

pretty sure hes not logging this, seeing as he JUST said he is 2 weeks into the cycle already..... but nice try buddy

Really dont know why you are so bitter man. I wasnt trying to offend anyone. You know what they say "if you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say it". There are PLENTY of threads that I can post on and bash something but, choose not bc I have better things to do with my time. Really hope you find some peace bro bc all this hate aint good for you! Lighten up a little.

[JudgementDay]

Well im two weeks into cycle with absolutely no signs of shutdown yet, and M-LMG according to PA is more suppresive than a testosterone derivative.


I'm not saying it replaces HCG or acts as an alternative. If it directly stimulates GnRH release, then it causes LH and FSH to pulse, which stimulates leydig cells. The question is how much you can get away with before the androgens take over. You guys are running longer cycles and harsher compounds, obviously it wont negate that, i said it right in my opening post. However, perhaps with something like halodrol or moderately dosed epistane/havoc it would be of use.

There are no studies to conclude this, but all studies are started with a hypothesis. Obviously DAA wasnt brought to the market with AAS users in mind, but perhaps eventually it will have its limits displayed.

Hey Kevinhy hows the cycle going?

[kevinhy]

Sorry for the delay in updates guys, been sort of busy but everythings back to normal now!


I'm about 3 weeks into this cycle of M-LMG at 100mg, androhard at 750mg, and andromass at 5 caps/day. Although i would love to get blood tests to show just how much i'm being suppressed, I cant this time around so im relying purely on conjecture. Typically around week 2-3 of a cycle the lethargy kicks in, testicle size decreases significantly, and i begin to get severe anxiety. On every cycle ive done to date, these signs were all conclusive of low testosterone (got bloods taken several times).

However, i havent noticed anything in terms of sides from this cycle. I'm up about ~6 lbs, and my balls are definitely still hanging in there. During the initial loading period of DAA, my balls increase in size by at least 15% (ballpark figure). Since ive been on this cycle size has not decreased at all. Its actually sort of annoying having to deal with larger than normal balls, but it beats dealing with little raisins!

[alvin1]

Nice ! Sub !

[JudgementDay]

Awesome update!

[mattrag]

I dono about HPTA levels, or actual levels of test. DAA on my currently AH/AL cycle keeps the boys full. I take it cause it's in my preworkout.

[JudgementDay]

I dono about HPTA levels, or actual levels of test. DAA on my currently AH/AL cycle keeps the boys full. I take it cause it's in my preworkout.

Good to hear! I plan on running it for my AH/AL cycle as well.

[JudgementDay]

Hows the cycle going buddy?

[BBB]

I have a couple of questions about Adamantium. First, I would like to hear from users what it tastes like? Most DAA formulations taste good. Secondly, why did you choose to use straight DAA when all the studies I have read are on Sodium DAA? I like the formulation and I personally have responded well to Sodium DAA in the past (TCF-1), I am therefore somewhat reluctant to try a different form.

[JudgementDay]

I have a couple of questions about Adamantium. First, I would like to hear from users what it tastes like? Most DAA formulations taste good. Secondly, why did you choose to use straight DAA when all the studies I have read are on Sodium DAA? I like the formulation and I personally have responded well to Sodium DAA in the past (TCF-1), I am therefore somewhat reluctant to try a different form.

How about this, I'll send you a tub of Adamantium on house and you tell me how it tastes? I think it's pretty damn yummy, we have had good feedback on the taste.

Now for the DAA, I've seen much feedback over and over they had just good results with the sodium DAA as they did with regular DAA. I myself have used the Sodium and had better results with Adamantium, now I don't believe it's because Adamantium contains better DAA, I'm not claiming that, I feel it works just as good, but the added LCLT really brings out the great effects imo. Let me know if you want a tub and I'll get it sent out Monday.

[kevinhy]

Adamantium tastes great.


The cycles over, I'll post my final thoughts later on tonight/tomorrow morning.

[JudgementDay]

I have a couple of questions about Adamantium. First, I would like to hear from users what it tastes like? Most DAA formulations taste good. Secondly, why did you choose to use straight DAA when all the studies I have read are on Sodium DAA? I like the formulation and I personally have responded well to Sodium DAA in the past (TCF-1), I am therefore somewhat reluctant to try a different form.

Glad you took my offer, be sure to let me know how you like the taste

Adamantium tastes great.


The cycles over, I'll post my final thoughts later on tonight/tomorrow morning.

Thanks! Looking forward to it!

[kevinhy]

Okay, so the cycles over.

For those that missed the first post, i was running a cycle as follows:

M-LMG 100mg/day wks 1-6
Androhard v1 750mg/day wks 1-6
AndroMass 4 caps a day for the second week, 5 caps a day for the last 4 weeks.

DAA was preloaded for about twelve days with cycle supports, and ran all the way through the cycle.

I dont exactly feel shutdown, i received none of my usual side effects from this cycle. Testicle size was unchanged, no lethargy, no anxiety, or lack of libido. I didnt, however, make the greatest gains in the world, only about 8 lbs. Of that eight pounds, some of it is most definitely water and fat weight. Perhaps I dont feel shutdown because these just arent strong compounds? Unfortunately bloods arent a possibility right now, so its all purely speculation.

Would I run DAA again on cycle? Yes. I feel like this cycle just wasn't strong enough to really get a good idea of its potential.

[John Smeton]

Okay, so the cycles over.

For those that missed the first post, i was running a cycle as follows:

M-LMG 100mg/day wks 1-6
Androhard v1 750mg/day wks 1-6
AndroMass 4 caps a day for the second week, 5 caps a day for the last 4 weeks.

DAA was preloaded for about twelve days with cycle supports, and ran all the way through the cycle.

I dont exactly feel shutdown, i received none of my usual side effects from this cycle. Testicle size was unchanged, no lethargy, no anxiety, or lack of libido. I didnt, however, make the greatest gains in the world, only about 8 lbs. Of that eight pounds, some of it is most definitely water and fat weight. Perhaps I dont feel shutdown because these just arent strong compounds? Unfortunately bloods arent a possibility right now, so its all purely speculation.

Would I run DAA again on cycle? Yes. I feel like this cycle just wasn't strong enough to really get a good idea of its potential.

only way to know is though lab results(bloodwork)

[JudgementDay]

Okay, so the cycles over.

For those that missed the first post, i was running a cycle as follows:

M-LMG 100mg/day wks 1-6
Androhard v1 750mg/day wks 1-6
AndroMass 4 caps a day for the second week, 5 caps a day for the last 4 weeks.

DAA was preloaded for about twelve days with cycle supports, and ran all the way through the cycle.

I dont exactly feel shutdown, i received none of my usual side effects from this cycle. Testicle size was unchanged, no lethargy, no anxiety, or lack of libido. I didnt, however, make the greatest gains in the world, only about 8 lbs. Of that eight pounds, some of it is most definitely water and fat weight. Perhaps I dont feel shutdown because these just arent strong compounds? Unfortunately bloods arent a possibility right now, so its all purely speculation.

Would I run DAA again on cycle? Yes. I feel like this cycle just wasn't strong enough to really get a good idea of its potential.

Thanks for the feedback.

Still good feedback about during cycle, there was a logger who used SuperDrol and did start feeling shutdown at the end of week 4, but he said he used it before and last time he was very shutdown beginning of week 3. Feedback has been positive thus far, it sure won't hurt to add it into the cycle. I'm using Adamantium right now for my 8 week cycle of AH/AL and Natadrol, again it's a mild cycle.