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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I don't know if I like the sound of raspberry flavour BCAAs- I imagine them being very sickly?

    The lemon flavour is fine and very good value seeing as it works out to be the same cost per kilo as bulk 2:1:1 BCAAs here.

    Probably going to buy another tub. Waiting for the samples John kindly looked into sending me internationally. Does it include RecoverPro flavours?
    The sample kits do include both flavors of Maniac and RecoverPRO.

    I've been away for about a week...any chance for some bridge notes?
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49


  2. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    The sample kits do include both flavors of Maniac and RecoverPRO.

    I've been away for about a week...any chance for some bridge notes?
    Strength increasing steadily in Squat/Deadlift/Bench (despite jacked up shoulder), appetite and thirst in control, looking/feeling solid, RecoverPro tastes AWESOME and AnaBeta ROCKS!

    1st bottle AnaBeta almost gone, measurements and update pics this weekend.

    PES promised me a case of AnaBeta for free. AI Sports Nutrition offered me a sponsorship deal with a lifetime supply of RecoverPro.







    bdcc called me a bloody wanker, whatever that means...
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  3. LOL. Thanks for the update
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Strength increasing steadily in Squat/Deadlift/Bench (despite jacked up shoulder), appetite and thirst in control, looking/feeling solid, RecoverPro tastes AWESOME and AnaBeta ROCKS!

    1st bottle AnaBeta almost gone, measurements and update pics this weekend.

    PES promised me a case of AnaBeta for free. AI Sports Nutrition offered me a sponsorship deal with a lifetime supply of RecoverPro.







    bdcc called me a bloody wanker, whatever that means...

    Unbelievable.... Take care of that shoulder before you lose it.
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  5. Milas you are either blowing smoke, or you are the luckiest supplement whore ever....
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Milas you are either blowing smoke, or you are the luckiest supplement whore ever....
    Right.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Milas you are either blowing smoke, or you are the luckiest supplement whore ever....
    I may have embellished a little bit...
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  8. Good stuff! Nothing like a nice laugh after killing it at the gym.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    I may have embellished a little bit...

    Good job bro, I have been following along as usual. This lean gains diet has me intriuged (spelling). Anyway, I am thinking of giving that a run down the road. Now more importantly, I have a bottle of Anebeta already amd I am going to get another. That will be my next cycle when its time..SJ

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SuppJunkie View Post
    Good job bro, I have been following along as usual. This lean gains diet has me intriuged (spelling). Anyway, I am thinking of giving that a run down the road. Now more importantly, I have a bottle of Anebeta already amd I am going to get another. That will be my next cycle when its time..SJ
    Lean Gains seems alright, works better for some than others IMO. Worth a try.

    AnaBeta is great for a natty supplement, seems to be working very well for me!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post

    AnaBeta is great for a natty supplement, seems to be working very well for me!
    yeah, me too.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  12. I outright deny the previous allegation.

    I said he was a mighty pleasant fellow!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I outright deny the previous allegation.I said he was a mighty pleasant fellow!
    Caught me again...And you sir are an upstanding chap! I just have to keep you on your toes!

  14. Nice lift Milas, yeah running can take it out of your legs for sure and for a few days at that.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    Lean Gains seems alright, works better for some than others IMO. Worth a try.
    Just curious (in your opinion) is Lean Gains working for you? If so, is it working as well for you as it is for Doug & Chris? I have plans to give Lean Gains a fair shake when I am done getting ripped up for Halloween! They keep trying to talk me into starting now, but from what I've seen, it takes a few weeks to really dial it in and I have my diet dialed in as to what has worked so many times before, I just don't want to fix something that isn't broke when Halloween is so important to me! My goals are never really to get much bigger, always trying to increase leg girth though, so I'll probably try it out to see if I can gain lean mass only while staying around 6% BF, to me, if that is successful, then it will have more than proven itself!
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  16. I'd say honestly my results have not been as stellar as Doug or Chris on LeanGains. I believe you could attribute most progress to diet control versus timing and LG. Personally, I can manipulate my calories during the day and clean up things here and there to cut, or add in oats and I add weight (something about me and oats!). I wouldn't say I've had TONS more freedom than what I typically do.

    On the other hand, I've remained relatively lean and added muscle strength back after my last severe cut. I wouldn't say my bf% has magically gone down just through LG, or that I've miraculously built muscle/recomp. I think it's following the normal pattern of managed nutrition and exercise.

    Honestly, I will likely drop LG at the end of this in favor of my normal eating patterns. Missing morning meals really sucks on workout days, and my wife notices I'm more irritable/testy/on-edge when I don't eat in the morning.

    In my opinion, LeanGains is a way for people to control the amount of calories they take in, I feel it's really kinda hard to get enough calories to bulk on LG. With meals spread throughout the day, it's a lot easier for calories here and there to add up without people realizing it. With LG, you get a much shorter period of time and thus more controlled intake of calories.

    I've learned some things from it, but there are some tried and true methods out there that can be just as effective as another. It's really up to what works for you and what can you maintain control over. There's no "miracle diet" IMO, it's calories in vs. calories out and the macro/micro nutrients that go with it, and some slight play in timing (mainly around workouts).

    So, long story short is that it CAN work but it doesn't fit my preference or lifestyle, and my progress has been nothing out of the ordinary. IMO if you have something that works for YOU, stick with it until you stop making the progress you want, and try something different.
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  17. Day 23: 7/20 Back/Biceps

    1.5 Scoops Modern BCAA
    1 Scoop Maximize V2
    1 cap AnaBeta

    Deadlifts
    135 x 10
    225 x 10
    315 x 10
    405 x 7
    455 x 3
    405 x 6
    315 x 12

    WG Low Cable Row
    160 x 10
    200 x 10
    220 x 10
    240 x 10
    240 x 10

    CG Pull Down
    140 x 10
    160 x 10
    180 x 10
    200 x 10
    220 x 9

    Pull Down Machine
    130 x 12
    170 x 10
    210 x 5

    Straight Arm Pull Down
    30 x 12
    40 x 12
    50 x 10

    Rope Cable Curl
    55 x 12 (5 sets)

    Isolateral Curl Machine
    100 x 10 (5 sets)


    Well, deadlifts were stuck where they were at last week (actually 1 less rep at 405). My lower back was just feeling too sore. I may switch to do DLs every other week, I just don't feel like it was fully recovered today (maybe partially due to squats yesterday too). I'll probably switch to doing SLDL's on off weeks for hamstrings and stick with DLs every other week, that way I can get my fix without over-straining my LB.

    Other lifts felt good, excellent contraction and mind-muscle connection on the CG Pulldown and WG Low Row, I could feel the muscles I wanted to work. Biceps were so-so, got a good pump but nothing exceptional to report.

    Looking forward to lunch, I may go to the sushi buffet with wife/son, here's hoping!


    So, with AnaBeta, what would happen if I took 3-6 in one serving? Want me to find out?
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  18. Maybe you should cycle your posterior chain exercise in the same way the Westside Barbell guys do without the maximal lift aspect and keep a few of them on rotation.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    I'd say honestly my results have not been as stellar as Doug or Chris on LeanGains. I believe you could attribute most progress to diet control versus timing and LG. Personally, I can manipulate my calories during the day and clean up things here and there to cut, or add in oats and I add weight (something about me and oats!). I wouldn't say I've had TONS more freedom than what I typically do.

    On the other hand, I've remained relatively lean and added muscle strength back after my last severe cut. I wouldn't say my bf% has magically gone down just through LG, or that I've miraculously built muscle/recomp. I think it's following the normal pattern of managed nutrition and exercise.

    Honestly, I will likely drop LG at the end of this in favor of my normal eating patterns. Missing morning meals really sucks on workout days, and my wife notices I'm more irritable/testy/on-edge when I don't eat in the morning.

    In my opinion, LeanGains is a way for people to control the amount of calories they take in, I feel it's really kinda hard to get enough calories to bulk on LG. With meals spread throughout the day, it's a lot easier for calories here and there to add up without people realizing it. With LG, you get a much shorter period of time and thus more controlled intake of calories.

    I've learned some things from it, but there are some tried and true methods out there that can be just as effective as another. It's really up to what works for you and what can you maintain control over. There's no "miracle diet" IMO, it's calories in vs. calories out and the macro/micro nutrients that go with it, and some slight play in timing (mainly around workouts).

    So, long story short is that it CAN work but it doesn't fit my preference or lifestyle, and my progress has been nothing out of the ordinary. IMO if you have something that works for YOU, stick with it until you stop making the progress you want, and try something different.
    Thank You, that is exactly what I was looking for!
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  20. subd

    keep killing it bro
    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysgaining View Post
    I've also done fasting and doseing and felt grealt anabolicness , deffint hunger but I'm stronger than that keep full and vascular and strength gose up
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/177245-swollen87s-training-log.html

  21. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Maybe you should cycle your posterior chain exercise in the same way the Westside Barbell guys do without the maximal lift aspect and keep a few of them on rotation.
    Probably a good idea. I used to be able to hit squats day 1, DLs day 2, and SLDL day 3 without much problem. Now I can't even get through day 2! I'm getting prematurely old...

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Thank You, that is exactly what I was looking for!
    No problem. I am very direct and honest, but it's just one man's opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    subd

    keep killing it bro
    Thanks, I'm hoping for some new PRs soon, just gotta keep my body injury free (or close to it)! Maybe get some sleep too!!!
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    I'd say honestly my results have not been as stellar as Doug or Chris on LeanGains. I believe you could attribute most progress to diet control versus timing and LG. Personally, I can manipulate my calories during the day and clean up things here and there to cut, or add in oats and I add weight (something about me and oats!). I wouldn't say I've had TONS more freedom than what I typically do.

    On the other hand, I've remained relatively lean and added muscle strength back after my last severe cut. I wouldn't say my bf% has magically gone down just through LG, or that I've miraculously built muscle/recomp. I think it's following the normal pattern of managed nutrition and exercise.

    Honestly, I will likely drop LG at the end of this in favor of my normal eating patterns. Missing morning meals really sucks on workout days, and my wife notices I'm more irritable/testy/on-edge when I don't eat in the morning.

    In my opinion, LeanGains is a way for people to control the amount of calories they take in, I feel it's really kinda hard to get enough calories to bulk on LG. With meals spread throughout the day, it's a lot easier for calories here and there to add up without people realizing it. With LG, you get a much shorter period of time and thus more controlled intake of calories.

    I've learned some things from it, but there are some tried and true methods out there that can be just as effective as another. It's really up to what works for you and what can you maintain control over. There's no "miracle diet" IMO, it's calories in vs. calories out and the macro/micro nutrients that go with it, and some slight play in timing (mainly around workouts).

    So, long story short is that it CAN work but it doesn't fit my preference or lifestyle, and my progress has been nothing out of the ordinary. IMO if you have something that works for YOU, stick with it until you stop making the progress you want, and try something different.
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Thank You, that is exactly what I was looking for!
    Milas makes a lot of good points and several that I have mentioned before in the LeanGains thread. I don't think LG is magical as far as what it can do. I mean the science is there and it definitely works. It is MUCH easier for me, and I have more success on it than a typical diet.

    I will say that people with slower metabolisms really seem to do well on LG but the guys like Milas who need 4000 cals to make maintenance are may not have as easy of a time with it. I have not seen anyone actually bulk with it yet. Nor do I know of anyone who actually knows what the recommendations for bulking on it are. However for cutting / recomping it works excellently and takes very little planning, and food choices are definitely open. I think people who try to get everything in with clean foods have a harder time with it as well because it is very easy to get full on oats, and fibrous foods.

    I don't know that I would say that it is more effective than your typical body builder diet, however for me it is much easier to stick with much more forgiving on food choices and those things make it more effective for me. In other words for me I get more out of it than what I have to put into the making the diet work. I do think it is superior for keeping muscle during a cut, as well as keeping strength up. Muscle wasting and catabolism is going to be lower with this type of eating during a cut.

    As far as bulking which is what Milas has been doing I really don't know, and don't know how Martin has the macros and calories set up for a lean bulk so I can not make any comments on the effectiveness for that. I would have to actually know we were doing what we should before I could say anything about the effectiveness on a bulk.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Milas makes a lot of good points and several that I have mentioned before in the LeanGains thread. I don't think LG is magical as far as what it can do. I mean the science is there and it definitely works. It is MUCH easier for me, and I have more success on it than a typical diet.

    I will say that people with slower metabolisms really seem to do well on LG but the guys like Milas who need 4000 cals to make maintenance are may not have as easy of a time with it. I have not seen anyone actually bulk with it yet. Nor do I know of anyone who actually knows what the recommendations for bulking on it are. However for cutting / recomping it works excellently and takes very little planning, and food choices are definitely open. I think people who try to get everything in with clean foods have a harder time with it as well because it is very easy to get full on oats, and fibrous foods.

    I don't know that I would say that it is more effective than your typical body builder diet, however for me it is much easier to stick with much more forgiving on food choices and those things make it more effective for me. In other words for me I get more out of it than what I have to put into the making the diet work. I do think it is superior for keeping muscle during a cut, as well as keeping strength up. Muscle wasting and catabolism is going to be lower with this type of eating during a cut.

    As far as bulking which is what Milas has been doing I really don't know, and don't know how Martin has the macros and calories set up for a lean bulk so I can not make any comments on the effectiveness for that. I would have to actually know we were doing what we should before I could say anything about the effectiveness on a bulk.
    Hell Bro, this is starting to sound like a really good theme for a LOG, "ScottyDoc's experimental LG-Bulk... Come learn with Us!!!" Believe me Chris, from everything you tell me, it sounds like the perfect daily diet for me, I'm talking about my every-day 90% of the year way I eat, but unless next year rolls around and I'm below 6% BF, I'll still switch over to my pre-contest bodybuilder-esk diet, I just won't have to do it 16 wks out, more like 6-8 wks out at the most if I can maintain 6%! No worries, I'm totally in this for the long haul and I have heard enough to like Lean Gains and play with it for a little while and see what I can take from it!
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Milas makes a lot of good points and several that I have mentioned before in the LeanGains thread. I don't think LG is magical as far as what it can do. I mean the science is there and it definitely works. It is MUCH easier for me, and I have more success on it than a typical diet.

    I will say that people with slower metabolisms really seem to do well on LG but the guys like Milas who need 4000 cals to make maintenance are may not have as easy of a time with it. I have not seen anyone actually bulk with it yet. Nor do I know of anyone who actually knows what the recommendations for bulking on it are. However for cutting / recomping it works excellently and takes very little planning, and food choices are definitely open. I think people who try to get everything in with clean foods have a harder time with it as well because it is very easy to get full on oats, and fibrous foods.

    I don't know that I would say that it is more effective than your typical body builder diet, however for me it is much easier to stick with much more forgiving on food choices and those things make it more effective for me. In other words for me I get more out of it than what I have to put into the making the diet work. I do think it is superior for keeping muscle during a cut, as well as keeping strength up. Muscle wasting and catabolism is going to be lower with this type of eating during a cut.

    As far as bulking which is what Milas has been doing I really don't know, and don't know how Martin has the macros and calories set up for a lean bulk so I can not make any comments on the effectiveness for that. I would have to actually know we were doing what we should before I could say anything about the effectiveness on a bulk.
    I am just some sort of hyper-responder to this diet. To the point that it's freaking me out a bit... I mean it's easily changed me from and endo to a meso with less effort than I have ever used on any eating protocol. I'm leaner harder dryer (some of that is supps). This is the look I have been going for all my life and frankly I have pretty much already achieved it. Now I just want to see how far I can push it... man no extra cardio and I get to stuff my face!! You should have seen the look on the faces of people who were watching me chow down this weekend lol then I would say to them "Yah and I will continue to get leaner". They couldn't get their head around it. I did a lean bulk and gained 8 lbs in 4.5 weeks so I know it works that way too. Now it has always been easy for me to bulk up but now I can do it and lose a bit of fat while I do it leaving me bigger in the long run.
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  25. Maybe your injury is down to bad karma.

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