KLEEN - Gets REDEFINE’D & grows to 6% w/ 1-Andro & PCT Revolution Black (Sponsored)

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KLEEN - Gets REDEFINE’D & grows to 6% w/ 1-Andro & PCT Revolution Black (Sponsored)

First I want to thank the hell out of Redefine Nutrition / FINAFLEX for hooking me up with all this LOOT!!! Look at it, kinda like a lifter’s wet dream isn’t it.

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Okay now that you have looked at the lifter’s porn and are a little excited lets talk about what makes this picture so damn sexy. Finaflex 1-Andro is one of the stronger dosed 1-Andro products out right now. On top of having extra milligrams of 1-Andro, it also has DHB, which is an “Anabolic Amplifier”. Basically what that means is that it will increase the effect of the already higher dosed 1-Andro. 1-Andro converts to 1-Testosterone in the body which is known to be more anabolic than testosterone itself. Not saying that this product is stronger than testosterone but that on a mg per mg basis 1-Test is stronger then Test.

FINAFLEX 1-Andro is a highly androgenic so I am expecting lots of ALPHA MALE feel and confidence as well as an increase in libido. Which will be very welcome considering I am bridging from a low androgen progestin run so my libido has dipped a little recently as I began to experience a little shut down. With it being so androgenic I am expecting further shut down however to combat that the nice people over at FINAFLEX hooked me up with multiple bottles of PCT Revolution Black.

FINAFLEX PCT Revolution Black is the newer version of the over the counter PCT from FINAFLEX. It has an interesting line up of ingredients that should both aid in overall health while on but also in recovering post cycle. Rev Black has Arimistane in it, this is the same ingredient also used in Erase however the dose is 50mg instead of 25mg so Estrogen and Cortisol should both be well under control throughout the run as well as afterwards. Keep estro low should help keep the testosterone higher. It also has DAA and Fenugreek 50% (Testofen) so you get a SERM type activity from the DAA and the SHBG affinity from testofen freeing up testosterone. I like that it also has some stuff in there for cholesterol, prostate and liver issues. Making PCT Revolution Black a full service PCT set to get the body back into good working order as quickly as possible.

Dosing Schedule -
Weeks 1-2, 1-Andro 4 caps, PCT Black 1 Cap
Week 3, 1-Andro 5 caps, PCT Black 1 Cap
Week 4, 1-Andro 6 caps, PCT Rev Black 2 Caps
Week 5, 1-Andro 7 caps, PCT Rev Black 2 Caps
Week 6, 1-Andro 8 caps, PCT Rev Black 2 Caps
Week 7, PCT Revolution Black 3 Caps
Week 8, PCT Revolution Black 3 caps
Week 9, PCT Revolution 2 Caps,
Week 10, PCT Revolution 1 Cap (log will probably end here)
Week 11, PCT Revolution 1 cap every other day.
Week 12, PCT Revolution 1 Cap every 3rd day.

Now that is the plan as it is right now however ERASE is already pretty strong and Arimistane is twice as strong as ERASE so I may have to cut back on some of the dosing on the PCT Revolution Black if I start having major joint issues due to drying out or uncontrolled inflammation due to lower cortisol levels.

Training is basic mostly compound movements. This time around I will be using an A&B Upper / Lower Body Routine on a 3 day a week lifting rotation. Cardio days are Monday-Wednesday-Friday, and lifting days are Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday.

So it will look a little like this.
Tuesday - Upper Body A, Thursday Lower Body A, Saturday - Upper Body B,
Tuesday - Lower Body B, Thursday - Upper Body A, Saturday - Lower Body A…

This will allow me to hit my body from all the angles I want too without trying to cram all the exercises into 1 workout. I don’t have it 100% down but these are the exercises I have planned.
Upper Body A - Bench Press 4, Chins / Pull Downs 4, Shoulder Press 3, EZ Bar Curls 1, Dips 1

Lower Body A - Leg Press 4, Trap Bar Dead Lifts 1x20, Calves 2, Roman Chair Hangs 2

Upper Body B - HS Incline Press 4, Seated Cable Rows 4, Arnold Press 3, DB Cross Body Hammer Curl 1, OH Tricps Extension 1

Lower Body B - Leg Press 4, Squats 4, Seated Calve Press 2, DB Side Bends 2x20 per side.

The overall goal here is to see if I can actually recomp my way to around 6% using these products in combination with Intermittent Fasting protocol strategies. I have been using Lean Gains as my template for the most part but definitely added in some of the pieces of the ADF or Alternate Day Fasting Protocol as well. Calorie intake will be estimated via loose tracking of macros. On Burn Days I will take in anywhere from 1000-2000 calories, on Build Days I will take in 2800-3500 depending on how hard I work out and also how the product is working regarding lean mass gains. If I get a lot of nutrient partitioning from it we will see more of the 3500's than the 2800's however getting leaner while keeping the scale relatively constant is my goal at first. Lets see how it all works out.

My current stats as of 6/10/11 - 203 lbs, 8% body fat, LBM =186.7 lbs, Fat =16.3 lbs

End Goal between 200-205 at 6% this does not sound huge but you have to remember my goal is to drop fat, and gain some muscle. I also just gained 6.8 lbs of LBM on the progestin run so not exactly sure how much is left in reserves for LBM gains. If I am able to end the run at the same weight I am now and 6% I will be more than ecstatic with my results. However ScottyDoc has faith in the product being able to produce more than this so we shall see just what we can squeeze out of this.
 
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6/10/11 - 203 8% LBM 186.7, Fat 16.3
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Looking sick already, Kleen! Definitely in to follow because Finaflex has some great stuff and ScottyDoc has really shown that.
 
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In for the win big guy; I will be starting my Epi-V in three weeks or so.
 
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I'm Obviously SUBd...

 
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Subbed! I've been looking into this product for sometime now, can't wait to see how it works for you :D
 
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I will be doing a similar bridge from EPI-Strong to Epi-V in 5 weeks... that is if I decide on October 15th as my go date...
 
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Wow,nice Redefine care package! Interested to see how you like the Andro.
 
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Looking Good Chris. In to see you get 6 %. your looking Great.
 
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Looking sick already, Kleen! Definitely in to follow because Finaflex has some great stuff and ScottyDoc has really shown that.
Yeah, I know their old school stuff was seriously legit too. I saw Scottys log and read some other andro products logs and am pretty happy with the set up I have here. I hope the escalating dosing really kicks it in gear nicely.
In for the win big guy; I will be starting my Epi-V in three weeks or so.
Nice, I can't wait to see how you shred up all that new mass.

I'm Obviously SUBd...

Good stuff Al, can't wait for the official kick in when I feel that Alpha Male action going on.
Subbed! I've been looking into this product for sometime now, can't wait to see how it works for you :D
Yeah me either. If it works well right now imagine how well it would work if I were fresh. I read a lot of other logs for another brand similar dose a little lower and it did not have DHB in it. So I am really curious to see what the addition of the DHB does since most of the people I say gained about the same amount of weight.
I will be doing a similar bridge from EPI-Strong to Epi-V in 5 weeks... that is if I decide on October 15th as my go date...
Yeah, what will be the deciding factor since you are already ahead of schedule?
awesome.

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Carpee! Glad to have you in here man.

Subb... Kill it Kleen!
Whats up beast! Gonna be fun in here.
Wow,nice Redefine care package! Interested to see how you like the Andro.
Yeah I read your log it looks like you enjoyed it but wanted more or higher dose. Was part of the reason for me to increase as I went on. I am really hoping to add a couple lbs of lbm and lean drop a couple lbs of fat then stabilize it. So I think this should more than do it.

Since when does Superdrol convert to Estrogen, it is known specifically for dry gains.
True, interesting. I am sure ScottyDoc will mention that to them since you brought it up.
 
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Since when does Superdrol convert to Estrogen, it is known specifically for dry gains.
I honestly don't know, I will have to get to the bottom of it by the creator of this advertisement, as it is scheduled to go out in one of the bodybuilding magazines very soon! Just give me a couple of days since it is the weekend!
 
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In for another Kleen & lean recomping machine log!!
 
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Subbed, my warrior-brother.
I wouldn't miss a Kleen log for all the nine worlds!!


Awesome care package, by the way. That's the way a company is supposed to hook a tester up. Shame on those cheap ass bastards that send a guy 1 measly little bottle that lasts only 2 weeks. That's no way to test out a product's efficacy. :nono2:


Kudos to Redefine Nutrition. :clap2:
 
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I honestly don't know, I will have to get to the bottom of it by the creator of this advertisement, as it is scheduled to go out in one of the bodybuilding magazines very soon! Just give me a couple of days since it is the weekend!
Just have them change the name to Phera or something so they don't have to change the entire layout.
So in for this!
Zama! Welcome Bro.
In for another Kleen & lean recomping machine log!!
Hey it's the Rock! So we should both be nice and cut up when it is all said and done. Recomping to 200 not bad at all. ;)
Subbed, my warrior-brother.
I wouldn't miss a Kleen log for all the nine worlds!!


Awesome care package, by the way. That's the way a company is supposed to hook a tester up. Shame on those cheap ass bastards that send a guy 1 measly little bottle that lasts only 2 weeks. That's no way to test out a product's efficacy. :nono2:


Kudos to Redefine Nutrition. :clap2:
Thunder glad to have as always. Yeah Redefine / FINAFLEX really came through with the loot. I love that they know that people will increase the dose and want to show what it can do when taken as consumers would. I can honestly say that they have supplied me the best care package I have received from any company providing me with supps for a log. Since they went over and above for this so will I. I will make sure to toss up some more pics, maybe a few videos, some libido checks. Try and keep this bad boy nice, effective, and fun.
 
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So does this mean you've started the 1-andro already?
 
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Yes Sir I took a total of 4 yesterday 2 in the AM and 2 in the evening. I am about to take this mornings dose then go to the gym in about an hour.
 
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ok, in for the win looking beast like already!
 
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Good luck man! I'm very interested to see how this goes.
 
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Yes Sir I took a total of 4 yesterday 2 in the AM and 2 in the evening. I am about to take this mornings dose then go to the gym in about an hour.
Cool!! Can't wait to see how it does for you!
 
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hey just dropping by real quick to sub in!! Catch up a little later!
 
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ok, in for the win looking beast like already!
Thanks and welcome!
Based on his schedule, I assume the answer to that is yes.
And you know this man!!!!
Good luck man! I'm very interested to see how this goes.
Me too! Welcome!

Cool!! Can't wait to see how it does for you!
It,s gonna be sweet! I'm gonna be huge and diced.

The Doc picked a good man for this log!
Thanks Staked!

hey just dropping by real quick to sub in!! Catch up a little later!
Andres glad you are here, expecting some great things from this run.

Thanks for joining!

Subbed for this ride!
Welcome Sir!
 
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Day 2 - Upper Body B Workout

Just swallowed 2 1-Andro, second dose for the day. I had my first two about 45 minutes before I worked out. Not sure if it added anything to the experience since they were all new exercises and I was kind of feeling my way along as far as strength goes I couldn't be really aggressive. After more consideration I am going to change the bulk of the exercises to dumbbells on B Workout days.
However today went as follows.
12 reps about a 2-0-2 tempo but will use rest pauses to get my reps on certain exercises

Hammer Strength Incline Press, 45, 70, 80, 90 Even 90 wasn't truly pushing me that much.
HS Dorian Rows - 45, 70 - Seated Cable rows 80, 150, 180
Arnold Press 40, 45, 50 Was butter baby! This ones range of motion is one that makes me just pay attention. Lots of planes of motion going on with the shoulder joint. Although the veins going over my left pec into my shoulder looked sick from the constant tension.
Cross Body Hammer Curls - 50x12 got them with both arms but form wasn't perfect by that I mean that I sped up a tiny bit toward the end of the set on the concentric portion and slowed it down on the negative just to be able to complete the 12.
O.H Triceps Ext 80x12 to light, need at least 90 next time.

I think the new B workout will be 30 Degree DB Incline Bench, DB Incline Bench Rows, Arnold Press, Cross Body Curls, DB Oh Tricep Ext

Maybe even switch the lower body one up a bit... I don't know though the lower body is set up pretty nice for me right now. Just dropped off my daughter for the week and my son is heading to his grand mothers tomorrow. So the wife and I get a week to ourselves. Right about the time we really start missing the heck out of them they will be back. :party:
 
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I wish I could get a break from my kids for a week. As much as I love them, the wife and I would be on cloud 9 with a week to ourselves! :woohoo:
 
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Meandered on over for the Redefined log, and I gotta say DAMN you got the HOOKUP! Al is certainly generous, and now I see there's "NO Limit!"

Best of luck with the run!
 
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This run should be a lot of fun for you!!
 
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I wish I could get a break from my kids for a week. As much as I love them, the wife and I would be on cloud 9 with a week to ourselves! :woohoo:
Yessir, my brother in laws wife is not working right now so she is staying with them for the week. They live in the country so she will get to do some cool stuff. Uncle Jeff will probably take her fishing too.

Thanks Beast!

Meandered on over for the Redefined log, and I gotta say DAMN you got the HOOKUP! Al is certainly generous, and now I see there's "NO Limit!"

Best of luck with the run!
Yeah the hookup is awesome!
This run should be a lot of fun for you!!
Yes I do believe it will be.
 
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Aggression Kicks in.

Okay, I am going to have to make a comment on mood so far. I am definitely getting some alpha male going on. I find it hard not to respond to posts or things I see online that I don’t agree with. Even if not solicited to do so. Just becoming overly opinionated. My opinions haven’t changed but the desire or impulse to voice them has definitely risen. You have to remember I haven’t felt much of any aggression in the past few weeks due to the anabolic nature of the progestin I just came off of. Anyway this behavior is very noticeable to me. I don’t want to be a douche bag, even when on supplements that make me more aggressive. So if I begin to act like one so I pick up on it real quick.
Okay, gather round kids its story time in Kleen’s Corner. I am driving up the parking lot between two restaurants, up ahead of me is a family. A husband, wife, 3 kids, walking between the two restaurants. I am still pretty gar back and the mother (who was nowhere near her kid neither was the father coincidentally) walks back into the driving area between the two restaurants and to grab her sons hand. No big deal. Then I see while I am at a complete stop 20 feet away from them that she is cussing me out and point at me just talking non stop trash. Not moving standing in my way. I start to inch forward my window down and she is cussing at me calling me all kinds of names saying I almost hit her kid. Mind you I was stopped like 20-30 feet away from the kid. I told her I wasn’t anywhere near your kid lady. I am still 20 feet away from him. She went on and on. Her husband sizing me up silently and trying to get her to walk away. I make the turn in front of the restaurant and she walks up the corner while I am waiting for someone to pull out and keeps talking crap. I told her to shut the f up this time, and pulled a little more forward. She walked over more and started talking sh*t again. I yelled out the car finally Look Bitch you’re the kind of woman that just keep talking **** until they get there mans ass kicked. She starts screaming you are gonna kick my ass, you are gonna kick a womans ass. I stopped made sure both she and he heard me and told them both. No I said I was gonna beat the sh*t out of your husband for not shutting your bitch ass up! To which I hear the husband who is now holding the door to the place say the first words he has spoken in the entire confrontation. “JUST GET IN THE DAMN RESTAURANT!!!”

Now typically I won’t get in a back and forth situation like that. I might tell her to shut up then roll my window up turn the AC on and ignore her. So this entire situation was a little out of character for me. I don’t have any problem with voicing my opinion, and am a very assertive person but not aggressive but this woman had me ready to twist my streering wheel into a pretzel. Just a grating biatch! Now I don’t speak of women like that too often but this one was just ridiculous and I was not in any position to put up with it. Was really funny to see the guys reactions as the thing went down. He went from bowing his chest out when she walked out talking mess to kind of ushering himself and the kids away from her when I told her to quit cussing me. To coming back trying to coax her to the restaurant and get her quiet, and finally straight up yelling at her to get in the restaurant when I let it be known I was going to hold him responsible for her mouth if she didn't shut up.

Anyway point in case being that aggression is definitely rising. It felt good to feel that again and it was under control. I was in no danger of actually wringing the guys neck unless he approached me with bad intentions. However as I said I am not one to run around acting like a douche bag so now that I have felt the aggression kick in I will be aware of it more and keep it from amplifying small things into bigger situations. It is all in how you react and your reactions are part of responsible use as much as taking support supps.
 
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Hahaha, awesome story, Kleen. You should have made him buy you lunch just for that.
 
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I wanna buy him lunch for that story, LoL! We've all had stuff like that happen, I think I had probably the worst experience in my life as far as a strange woman pushing my buttons in a movie theatre....

Let see this had to be like 7+ years ago, it was opening night of Matrix 3 and I went and bought tickets for me, my wife, her brother and 2 of his friends because I went hours early to make sure they didn't sell out. I also was meeting another couple there as well. My wife and I got to the movie theater like 45mins early so we could get us all good seats. So I waited in line and sure enough we got the majority of the back row. I sat on one side and my wife went and sat on the other side with the couple we know with the 3 seats in between us for my wife's brother and his 2 friends. People were come up asking if the seats were taken and I would say yes and they would go on their way. Well low and behold here comes this woman with her 16yr old daughter and I told her, "sorry ma'am those seats are taken," she looked at me and said by who, I don't see anyone there, you can't save seats, and continued to try and push past me. I stood in her way and said, "Ma'am, I said those seats are taken!" and at this time she started to really push and shove and try to get past me, so much so I was losing my balance, now let me tell you, she was not a small woman, she was at least 6 feet tall and probably around the same weight as me 210 Lbs. So I start to shove her back, and she screams at the top of her lungs, "Don't you touch me, get your hands off me!" I said, "Ma'am you are not taking those seats!" she continued to push and when I was off balance jumped up on my seat and walked over the seats to get around me. There was really nothing I could do minus yanking her ass down and risking her getting hurt, which I was not prepared to do! I was so pissed, so I went down and go the policeman in front of the theatre, explained what happened and he went in there with me and spoke with her about it. She told him that I was pushing and shoving her and that she wanted to press charges, the policeman knew better, but didn't want to get into it, so he just offered me a refund. I told him No and I sat next to this Bitch throughout the entire movie, I had to move over to the other side where there was still one seat left just so I could sit next to my wife! I still to this day cannot believe someone would actually have the audacity to do something like that! That was the closest I ever came to just knocking a woman out, it got to me so bad, I stewed on that for days!

Not trying to be a one-upper Chris, just had to share my similar story! I am feeling ya Brotha!
 
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Ha if she would have put her hands on me in that situation my firecracker of a wife would have pounced on her like a like a wounded antelope being taken down by a cheetah. No talking, would have just run up jumped on her, put her in a clench and start feeding her knees to the face. My Lil Fire Cracker would have definitely lost if if a woman put her hands on me. Regardless of her girth. LOL
 
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I wanna buy him lunch for that story, LoL! We've all had stuff like that happen, I think I had probably the worst experience in my life as far as a strange woman pushing my buttons in a movie theatre....

Let see this had to be like 7+ years ago, it was opening night of Matrix 3 and I went and bought tickets for me, my wife, her brother and 2 of his friends because I went hours early to make sure they didn't sell out. I also was meeting another couple there as well. My wife and I got to the movie theater like 45mins early so we could get us all good seats. So I waited in line and sure enough we got the majority of the back row. I sat on one side and my wife went and sat on the other side with the couple we know with the 3 seats in between us for my wife's !
Uh oh---- dont wanna run into you in a theater... I have been that lady before. PACKED theater, only 2 seats next to each other and I am going to sit with my girl and someone says "someone is sitting there"... my reply is "yeah, we are". I go by, you can save 1 seat rule... you trying to hold down more than that - not my problem.
 
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I would have sat next to that broad and ripped nasty protein farts the whole movie!!
 
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depends on the situation

If I was in this situation I would just found another seat and caused no trouble
 
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Uh oh---- dont wanna run into you in a theater... I have been that lady before. PACKED theater, only 2 seats next to each other and I am going to sit with my girl and someone says "someone is sitting there"... my reply is "yeah, we are". I go by, you can save 1 seat rule... you trying to hold down more than that - not my problem.
Yeah... I feel ya, I am just not a confrontational kind of person as far as doing that myself, because I respect that fact that someone got there before me and is holding seats for their friends, what not, so I would never do what she did to anyone, besides, I'm the guy who prepares and gets there early to avoid such situations. On the other hand, it would have been much easier if it were a Man vs. a Woman, because they he would not have passed me, I would have pulled a Man down and fought for my right to reserve a seat physically if that is the route he chose to go, being a woman, I can't hit a woman no matter how mad I get or bad I would like to.
 
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I would have sat next to that broad and ripped nasty protein farts the whole movie!!
That would have been FANTASTIC.... Especially if I had been eating a lot of Egg-Whites, she would have paid the PRICE!!!
 
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OK, so we got our response back from Patrick Arnold (The Master), who helped us clear up the confusion...


OK, so first and foremost, you guys are 100% right, Superdrol does NOT directly convert to Estrogen (Aromatise). The confusion lies in the fact that Superdrol causes a large amount of conversion of Testosterone to Aromatase (oxidation). Aromatase is an enzyme that converts Androgens in the body to Estrogen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatase). Therefore it does cause a large increase in Estrogen in the body, but Superdrol itself does not armomatize and/or turn to estrogen itself.

Sorry for the confusion and THANK YOU for bringing this to our attention as we do NOT want to be putting out advertisement and literature that is false, as you can see, we changed our comparison advertisement. So again... THANK YOU!!!
 
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Uh oh---- dont wanna run into you in a theater... I have been that lady before. PACKED theater, only 2 seats next to each other and I am going to sit with my girl and someone says "someone is sitting there"... my reply is "yeah, we are". I go by, you can save 1 seat rule... you trying to hold down more than that - not my problem.
It just depends on the situation. Someone with a bunch of people may have 2 people at the concession stand at a time. However for the most part if there isn't an object in the chair to let me know it is taken it is fair game.
I would have sat next to that broad and ripped nasty protein farts the whole movie!!
If only I could do that on queue. I would fart next to anyone who brought a young kid to anything over a PG movie. Actually I would prefer to take a dump in their drink if I had my way. Jus sayin... I have young kids too. Guess what if I want to go to a non kid movie I get a sitter or just don't go. Leave your talkative kids at home!!!
depends on the situation

If I was in this situation I would just found another seat and caused no trouble
If you were in a situation where you had went through so much trouble to make room for you and all of your friends you would have allowed a disrespectful and rude woman to just get away with that? No Way I would have allowed it to happen. I would have pushed to have her removed from the theater for touching me in the first place. I would have taken badge numbers if they took her side because she was a woman and told them I would be contacting their superiors regarding thier sexual discrimination against me.

Funny I am getting worked up just thinking about that. Aggressive Much Chris? LOL Honestly though a movie theater is a bad place for me. It can just set my blood to boiling. Like I said above people bring talkative children or crying babies to otherwise adult movies. I have been in a situation similar to this because I went to the Matrix too. HMMMM maybe a bad movie franchise for aggressive behavior.

Anyway, I am sitting there getting ready to watch a RATED R ACTION MOVIE FULL OF GONFIGHTS AND EXPLOSIONS!!!! When all the sudden this family comes up and sits next to me and my wife. It is a group of like grown men, and 2 womena with 3 kids ranging from 8 months to about 4 years old. Already being loud and obnoxious before the movie starts. I turn to my wife and mention that I really hope that they plan on keeping their kids quiet. Well ofcourse we are not even 5 minutes in when one of them starts talking. Momma,,, Mommma... so Momma starts talking. I look over and give a look to let them know this just ain't gonna fly. TO which I get one of the ptchhhshh! Looks you know like she wanted to put her hand up in my face and say whatever. I sit a little longer the kid starts talking again. I ask the father to please quiet his kid down or take them to the lobby. He runs his mouth for a second but shuts his kid up. No big deal. THen KaBOOOM Explosions. Guess who starts crying right in my ear. Yep the 8 month old with opera singer lungs. I wait for about 20 seconds and then turn and tell the guy. Hey take your baby to the lobby like it said at the beginning of the movie. Of course he didn't like what I had to day and started cussing me. Telling me he didn't have to and I was a bitch for telling him to take his kid to the lobby. Things are escalating a bit, tension is high and we sit in silence for another 2-3 minutes and his older kid starts talking and I turn to him again and tell him Alright man take your kids to the lobby now. You are ruining the movie for everyone. He and the other 2 guys start talking a bunch of crap and I tell them I don't have to deal with it. So I told him I was going to walk out and get the cops. Of course I did and he bame down like 30 seconds later with the kid. He the officer and I had a conversation basically stating that he could go back in and get his family or he could stay out there and wait but he was not going back in to sit and watch the movie with the kids. Well I walk back up and he finally comes back up and talks more trash as he gathers up the kids stuff and goes wherever he goes.
Well the movie is now over and I go to the bathroom. Guess who follows me in there and all hanging behind me at the urinal like they are about to jump me? Yep the two older guys and their teenage son. I turned to them after zipping my fly and told them I know there are 3 of you and I may not be able to whoop all of you but I promise the first one I get my hands on is going to the hospital. What do you wanna do? Then I walked straight toward all 3 of them and to my surprise they parted like the red sea and let me pass. I was sure I was about to get an azz whooping but instead things worked out alright. I won't lie I was a little frightened in that situation but no doubt someone was going to the hospital if that situation had gone down.

Either way I can not stand for people to go to a movie theater and be inconsiderate of the others who paid money to see the movie. It just makes me nuts. I wait until I have a sitter before going to an adult oriented film. Not drag kids out to ruin others adult time. UGH!!! THose people should be flooged and throttled.

On a good note. I think I am starting to notice what I like to call a Perma-Pump, kind of obvious in the meaning there but I am starting to look and feel like I have a pump all the time. I just noticed it after my walk at lunch. I took my shirt off to change and my arms and shoulders were really full of blood. My chest was too. Just everything seems more full and dense. My legs are staying full too. So far so good.
 
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It just depends on the situation. Someone with a bunch of people may have 2 people at the concession stand at a time. However for the most part if there isn't an object in the chair to let me know it is taken it is fair game.
Chris, I had two coats and my wife's purse, one object for each seat, she moved them when she got past me, I had my bases covered I even explained that to the policeman, he just didn't want to get into it with a fired up woman, like I said, she laid into him about her RIGHTS! "I paid for a tx just like he did, what gives him the right to reserve seats for his friends, that's not fair, etc. etc." The policeman caved!

If only I could do that on queue. I would fart next to anyone who brought a young kid to anything over a PG movie. Actually I would prefer to take a dump in their drink if I had my way. Jus sayin... I have young kids too. Guess what if I want to go to a non kid movie I get a sitter or just don't go. Leave your talkative kids at home!!!
I am so with you on both accounts, I can't fart to save my life if I want to, but if it is the last thing I want to do in certain situations, of course I have to so bad it hurts... Murphy's Law or something! Also, as far as the kids thing is concerned... I have a 7yr old daughter and for as long as I can remember I always swore I would never... ever take my child to a movie, unless it was a kid movie, until he/she was old enough to sit quiet throughout the entire movie, hell I even shush her when we are in Kid-Movies and explain to her it is RUDE to speak during a movie and that we can speak after unless she needs to use the rest-room which I of course accompany her! Oh... my point, I've never broken my word on that once, wouldn't even consider it!!!

If you were in a situation where you had went through so much trouble to make room for you and all of your friends you would have allowed a disrespectful and rude woman to just get away with that? No Way I would have allowed it to happen. I would have pushed to have her removed from the theater for touching me in the first place. I would have taken badge numbers if they took her side because she was a woman and told them I would be contacting their superiors regarding thier sexual discrimination against me.
Either you mis-understood John or I did, I took it as John would have walked away from the situation if he were in the woman who made the scene's shoes, as in not start a conflict with me or a person who is trying to reserve seats, vs. being in my shoes and moving after I had reserved the seats!
 
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Well we can just hope that someone somewhere puts a flaming bag of poo on her stoop!
 

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