KLEEN - Takes the Bull by the horns! Taurus Nutrition's w/ WYKED & Beta TNP

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  1. Yeah keep adding LBM and the maintenance cals go up while you lean up so effectively the same cals become a deficit in a true recomp to cut that would be the ideal. Curious to see how it all works out. I like doing the shorter one because then I can still have 100 grams of carbs during my fast breaking meal, and another 50 or so in my second meal. I have a basic guideline of about 150 grams carbs on non training days. I could go lower but I don't see the reason to right now. Since not in a huge hurry I am trying to see just how "lean"ient I can be here while still dropping fat successfully.

    Man that Dexaprine is a Godsend! Here we are coming up on noon and I am not even thinking about food. Not even a concern at this point. I will be going for a walk here in a little bit then will eat afterwards. Taking second dose for the day of the progestin now.
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    In order to not clutter your log, I started this thread if you don't mind brotha:

    Kleen Routine Q&A

    Thanks in advance
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    In order to not clutter your log, I started this thread if you don't mind brotha:

    Kleen Routine Q&A

    Thanks in advance
    Not at all!
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Use Kleen10 for a 10% discount
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah keep adding LBM and the maintenance cals go up while you lean up so effectively the same cals become a deficit in a true recomp to cut that would be the ideal. Curious to see how it all works out. I like doing the shorter one because then I can still have 100 grams of carbs during my fast breaking meal, and another 50 or so in my second meal. I have a basic guideline of about 150 grams carbs on non training days. I could go lower but I don't see the reason to right now. Since not in a huge hurry I am trying to see just how "lean"ient I can be here while still dropping fat successfully.

    Man that Dexaprine is a Godsend! Here we are coming up on noon and I am not even thinking about food. Not even a concern at this point. I will be going for a walk here in a little bit then will eat afterwards. Taking second dose for the day of the progestin now.
    if you are having success at 150 carbs, why not? when results start to play out then you can adjust.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  5. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    if you are having success at 150 carbs, why not? when results start to play out then you can adjust.
    I used to be of the opinion that if doing it a certain way helped then going to the extreme was even better including with diet. Now I am trying to find the perfect balance between life enjoyment and progress in my physique goals. Right now this is working perfectly. I am in no way unhappy with my progress considering the huge amount of freedom I give myself and still continue to get leaner or more muscular in phases.

    Sometimes I see people continue to restrict things until being unhappy is the only outcome. As if restricting themselves just to prove to themselves or others that they can show that level of dedication and restraint. I save that for competition prep only now. Even then if I know I can get away with a few things then I will.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Use Kleen10 for a 10% discount
    www.OrbitSupplements.com

  6. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I used to be of the opinion that if doing it a certain way helped then going to the extreme was even better including with diet. Now I am trying to find the perfect balance between life enjoyment and progress in my physique goals. Right now this is working perfectly. I am in no way unhappy with my progress considering the huge amount of freedom I give myself and still continue to get leaner or more muscular in phases.

    Sometimes I see people continue to restrict things until being unhappy is the only outcome. As if restricting themselves just to prove to themselves or others that they can show that level of dedication and restraint. I save that for competition prep only now. Even then if I know I can get away with a few things then I will.
    pretty much my thoughts also. life is too f'ing short-you have to live a little.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  7. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I used to be of the opinion that if doing it a certain way helped then going to the extreme was even better including with diet. Now I am trying to find the perfect balance between life enjoyment and progress in my physique goals. Right now this is working perfectly. I am in no way unhappy with my progress considering the huge amount of freedom I give myself and still continue to get leaner or more muscular in phases.

    Sometimes I see people continue to restrict things until being unhappy is the only outcome. As if restricting themselves just to prove to themselves or others that they can show that level of dedication and restraint. I save that for competition prep only now. Even then if I know I can get away with a few things then I will.
    I think more than anything you can shorten your heavy prep period.. I have used lean gains to get to about 7% (I have dropped more since last pics) and will continue to use it till I plateau and I don't even know if that will ever happen but I have the time to find out. My instinct is that a couple small adjustments in this diet will pretty much take me all they way. The last 3 weeks I will eat very clean.

  8. Kleen my man....you are becoming quite the celebrity here at AM with helping make Lean Gains take off and become the diet of choice for so many. There are Lean gains logs blowing up all over the place...and for very good reason too!! It works!!
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  9. Agreed....He's definitely become the AM guru!
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  10. Day 15 - Lower Body


    Todays lift so far, and a mid week weight update.

    First I want to just update you all on my current physique status. I weight myself this morning fasted and was 200 on the dot. Yesterday was a Burn day. So you can imagine I dropped some weight. I am going to weigh myself tomorrow morning after a Growth day and see what the difference is. I imagine a decent fluctuation. I am noticeably leaner to me anyway and I am thinking I will probably add 1.5-3 lbs today. I think since the weight will swing both ways I will just go with the median weight and call that my normal weight. Either way 200 and looking leaner still puts me around 1.5 lbs of LBM gained in 15 days. To give you an idea of what my intake looked like yesterday here is what I ate yesterday. I wanted to get in an earlier feeding if possible but work got in the way so I burned fat for a little longer. I would have loved to get in another 600-800 cals in but that just means I have some extra to toss on for my growth day today.

    I fasted until 6:45 PM then I ate
    8.5 oz lean pork loin 50 p, 6 f 0 c
    8 oz chicken breast 48 p, 3 f 0 c
    1 cup fat free cottage cheese 30 p, 0 f, 10 c
    1/2 cup of ranch style beans 6 p , 2.5 f, 20 c
    1 oz of almonds 6 p, 15 f, 6 carbs
    140 grams Protein - 560 cals
    26.5 grams Fat 238.5 cals
    36 carbs - 144 - was not trying to be low intentionally but protein was the focus and then I was just too full to add in whole food carbs.

    Cals for the day 942.5
    60% protien 25% fat, 15% carbs

    Well this morning I went with 2 scoops of Wyked, I really like the added energy between 1.5 and 2 scoops. So I think for the most part during the remainder of the log I will be using 2 scoops on lifting days and probably 1 for cardio. I actually found that I really still wanted to work out after my leg pressing this morning. However I have to save that for my Dead Lifts tonight. I will be going into new territory for my 20 reps. I am going to continue with the adding 10 lbs this week which will put me at 325 for my set of 20. That is gonna be a beast!

    Leg Press - 4p, 12p, 14p +60 lbs, 16 plates = 765lbs x12 - this actually seemed like it may have been easier than last week or exactly the same but definitely was not harder to perform. Last week I stopped at 735 which was the first real work set for this one. A 30 lb increase on the lift did not feel any harder. Now I did say before that I was not reaching my max for the rep range yet. However I don't really feel I got any closer to it this week as far as effort to complete the set goes.

    Calve Machine - 250, 300 Still not challenging but feels good to get blood into them. Although my calves are a tiny bit sore from running outside yesterday at lunch. Have only been walking or occasionally doing some hill sprints so actual running for a distance was a new challenge.

    Speaking of running. My calves and tibial muscle were both getting pretty pumped up during my run. Almost unnaturally so. I thought I might actually end up with a "calve pump" but it subsided when I stopped and walked it out so I kind of doubt that it was a calve pump. However it is definitely worth mentioning. If I get that feeling any where near my lower back with the high rep deads tonight I will be able to give a better assessment of if it was just a pump or an actual side effect.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    pretty much my thoughts also. life is too f'ing short-you have to live a little.
    AMEN! I am done trying to prove I can deny myself things that I want if I don't have to do so. If I can build a muscular and lean physique while HAVING MY CAKE, AND EATING IT TOO, THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM GOING TO DO! Not to do so would make me seem just a little bit .
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I think more than anything you can shorten your heavy prep period.. I have used lean gains to get to about 7% (I have dropped more since last pics) and will continue to use it till I plateau and I don't even know if that will ever happen but I have the time to find out. My instinct is that a couple small adjustments in this diet will pretty much take me all they way. The last 3 weeks I will eat very clean.
    For sure. Heck I think you will even have enough time while down below 7% to do several practice runs on peak week while you are lean enough to truly fine tune the process.
    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Kleen my man....you are becoming quite the celebrity here at AM with helping make Lean Gains take off and become the diet of choice for so many. There are Lean gains logs blowing up all over the place...and for very good reason too!! It works!!
    Well I just brought it out into the open a little bit more. That is all I can take credit for really. I am definitely pleased that people hold my opinion in high enough regard to give this a shot when it goes against everything we have been told regarding nutrition. That means quite a bit to me. However I just got excited and screamed about it from the roof tops. I am definitely happy that others are taking the chance with it and finding success with it. ssbackwardss has a log that I am definitely going to keep an eye on. He eats very clean and is already nice and lean and is using Lean Gains to add LBM now.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    ssbackwardss has a log that I am definitely going to keep an eye on. He eats very clean and is already nice and lean and is using Lean Gains to add LBM now.
    Can you post a link to his log?
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  12. 3 scoops of wyked even gets my old ass fired up, lol. i like how you are using the progestin, small but very maintainable gains-hey, getting leaner while adding a little lbm aint a bad thing, imo.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  13. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Can you post a link to his log?
    Absolutely! LeanGains Cycle
    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    3 scoops of wyked even gets my old ass fired up, lol. i like how you are using the progestin, small but very maintainable gains-hey, getting leaner while adding a little lbm aint a bad thing, imo.
    Definitely not a bad thing at all. In my opinion I look better right now at 200 than I have ever looked at 200 before. My abs seem more defined, vascularity is higher. Things are just going really well for me. I have to give a good amount of credit to the Lean Gains diet but this recent development of new lean mass or what appears to be anyway is definitely from the progestin. If not it is one awesome placebo effect that anyone should hope to replicate.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  14. Definitely not a bad thing at all. In my opinion I look better right now at 200 than I have ever looked at 200 before. My abs seem more defined, vascularity is higher. Things are just going really well for me. I have to give a good amount of credit to the Lean Gains diet but this recent development of new lean mass or what appears to be anyway is definitely from the progestin. If not it is one awesome placebo effect that anyone should hope to replicate. [/quote]

    I am diggin ur body for sure. You work your rear off at the gym! I am jealous. I need to build up to stack 8+ plates each side on leg press.. (turd) And I have to THANK YOU for being my motivator and flippin my flab into some sort of abs. lol. I refuse to diet like you.. You look freaking amazing babe!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by KleensQueen View Post
    I am diggin ur body for sure. You work your rear off at the gym! I am jealous. I need to build up to stack 8+ plates each side on leg press.. (turd) And I have to THANK YOU for being my motivator and flippin my flab into some sort of abs. lol. I refuse to diet like you.. You look freaking amazing babe!



    Well there you go guys the lovely lady has spoken. If any of you have seen pics of my wife you would roll your eyes at her mentioning 'her flab"... Her worst feature is probably her taste in men....

    Thanks Hun, doesn't matter how great of a compliment or what any of these guys tell me about my physique... a compliment from you is far better.

    No offense guys, that is my Queen, and you can't adore anyone more than I adore her. Just isn't possible.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
    Use Kleen10 for a 10% discount
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post



    Well there you go guys the lovely lady has spoken. If any of you have seen pics of my wife you would roll your eyes at her mentioning 'her flab"... Her worst feature is probably her taste in men....

    Thanks Hun, doesn't matter how great of a compliment or what any of these guys tell me about my physique... a compliment from you is far better.

    No offense guys, that is my Queen, and you can't adore anyone more than I adore her. Just isn't possible.
    hey, what the hell does it matter what guys think-when your woman digs your bod!!!!!!!!!


    GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU MRSKLEEN-POST MORE OFTEN!!!!
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  17. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    AMEN! I am done trying to prove I can deny myself things that I want if I don't have to do so. If I can build a muscular and lean physique while HAVING MY CAKE, AND EATING IT TOO, THEN THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM GOING TO DO! Not to do so would make me seem just a little bit .
    That's been me since forever, LOL, and actually being strict strict and regimented re diet has seen the LEAST progress with my body. Tightening things up a little not, though, more for health reasons and also because I DO want to see what I can do when I AM being a little stricter with everything.

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post



    Well there you go guys the lovely lady has spoken. If any of you have seen pics of my wife you would roll your eyes at her mentioning 'her flab"... Her worst feature is probably her taste in men....

    Thanks Hun, doesn't matter how great of a compliment or what any of these guys tell me about my physique... a compliment from you is far better.

    No offense guys, that is my Queen, and you can't adore anyone more than I adore her. Just isn't possible.
    I completely understand holding the wife's compliments in higher regard than anyone else. I know in my situation at home, if the wife says anything about my changes then it is going great, because she normally doesn't say anything even when asked. She does it to keep me humble she says. When she gives a nice compliment out of the blue, its like waving a victory flag!!
    Recoverbro Elite
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I was kind of thinking the new one might be a wet gain. I would not call this one a wet gain. I ate a lot of tortilla chips and salsa, had some ice cream and a whole lot of carbs so I was just really full and due to the extra salt was holding water.


    Going by what I was looking at in the mirror last night and this morning I think it is cruising along about the same, or the LBM is rising quickly enough that I can say I am leaning out as quickly. I haven't weighed myself but the water from the weekend has come off and I look good even through this mat of fur I am sporting right now.

    I don't attribute it to the progestin though. With the obscenity that I threw at my body this past weekend being bloated was an inevitability regardless of anything I could have been on. The fact that I did not increase my water intake to flush and have not spent much time in the sauna. Also not doing as much cardio this week and have already dropped the water weight tells me that this is not making me hold any water. I wouldn't say it has a major flushing effect either. Really, there is no effect on water retention from what I can tell so far.

    Thanks JD!



    Really guys, I just took a leap of faith with it after reading and the ease and effectiveness of it as well as additional freedoms in food choices... Well I just had to shout from the roof tops and let anyone I could know how awesome it has been for me. The entire Intermittent Fasting thing is awesome to me now. The more I read and what not the more I understand and love the idea. I tend to fast longer on my burn days, and eat less and then have a little more on my heavy days or do like I have the past two weekends and use them as both higher calories days. I think to really cut this up though I have to curb the weekends a bit. Although it is great for recomp so far.

    Good post. This is what I firmly believe. There will always be a 'trend' to notice, but it is more important to listen to your body. It will tell you which direction to head, you just gotta listen.
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    hey, what the hell does it matter what guys think-when your woman digs your bod!!!!!!!!!


    GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU MRSKLEEN-POST MORE OFTEN!!!!
    I only get on to check in on my man and my brother. I was adding in my weights and stuff, but it seems that is under maintenance.
    I am very proud of both of them. I didnt realize how hard working out really is, until, i started having awesome results and sore muscles. Then issues on buying new clothes in the juniors section, because women's clothes are too big. lol. That's an awesome feeling. lol

  21. Quote Originally Posted by KleensQueen View Post
    I only get on to check in on my man and my brother. I was adding in my weights and stuff, but it seems that is under maintenance.
    I am very proud of both of them. I didnt realize how hard working out really is, until, i started having awesome results and sore muscles. Then issues on buying new clothes in the juniors section, because women's clothes are too big. lol. That's an awesome feeling. lol
    Good for you Mrs. Kleen (Juniors )! Glad to make your acquaintance, hope to hear from you more on the forum. It appears the entire family "Kleens" house in the gym!
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Good for you Mrs. Kleen (Juniors )! Glad to make your acquaintance, hope to hear from you more on the forum. It appears the entire family "Kleens" house in the gym!
    You aren't kidding there. Well those of us who go. My son is 5'2" and 105 and can dead lift 245 having NEVER done it before. Just walked up in the garage, asked me how to do it with 135 on the bar and just started adding weight, he didn't stop until I made him at 245. It still went up pretty easily but I told him to much for a first time out. So naturally without ever doing it he is dead lifting about 2.4 times his body weight.

    The gorgeous wife can dead lift 140 for 5 reps and squat 145 for 5 reps. I think her max bench was 90x5 if I remember. Not bad at 118-122 which is where she normally hangs out.

    My other son has just recently told me he is interested in working out so I am going to try to get him started on a program of some sort too.

    My 7 year old daughter got excited about the fact we let her hold some 3 lb and then 5 lb hand weights when doing squats as punishment since she was up to like 200 body weight squats. She was like Oh now I can have muscles like you and Mommy! She did 50 squats holding the 5 lb dbs in one shot. Didn't even complain of being sore the next day... She has my genetics too, same structure, legs are tight and tone, already has a diamond to her calves. You can see a line where he shoulders meet her triceps, and where her biceps slope down into her elbow. Of course to my horror she has my bubble butt too. So now I have to fight off even more boys. Gonna have a blonde haired blue eyed Kardashian on my hands... OH NO!
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    My 7 year old daughter got excited about the fact we let her hold some 3 lb and then 5 lb hand weights when doing squats as punishment since she was up to like 200 body weight squats. She was like Oh now I can have muscles like you and Mommy! She did 50 squats holding the 5 lb dbs in one shot. Didn't even complain of being sore the next day... She has my genetics too, same structure, legs are tight and tone, already has a diamond to her calves. You can see a line where he shoulders meet her triceps, and where her biceps slope down into her elbow. Of course to my horror she has my bubble butt too. So now I have to fight off even more boys. Gonna have a blonde haired blue eyed Kardashian on my hands... OH NO!
    I have a beautiful little 7yr old daughter as well, so I am right there with you! She looks more like her mom, my ex-wife, thank God, she is beautiful! Not really pushing her in the weights arena, I will if she shows interest, but I'm just happy she likes to play soccer and throw the football around and participate in sports! She is definitely rough and tumbly, loves to go camping and play outside, and she plays hard, sometimes I have trouble keeping up, LoL, so hopefully I'm doing it right by not letting her become a little prissy girly..girl! I too worry about the boy-loving stage, not going to be happy when I hear how cute a certain boy is, or when she is asking to go on her first date, etc. etc. Every little girl's Father's worst nightmare!!!
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Of course to my horror she has my bubble butt too. So now I have to fight off even more boys. Gonna have a blonde haired blue eyed Kardashian on my hands... OH NO!
    That's why God made shotguns, then inspired the saw, to shave that shotgun barrel with. It's all in His plan.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    That's why God made shotguns, then inspired the saw, to shave that shotgun barrel with. It's all in His plan.
    "In the name of the Father... the Son, & the Holy Spirt.... AMEN!"
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I have a beautiful little 7yr old daughter as well, so I am right there with you! She looks more like her mom, my ex-wife, thank God, she is beautiful! Not really pushing her in the weights arena, I will if she shows interest, but I'm just happy she likes to play soccer and throw the football around and participate in sports! She is definitely rough and tumbly, loves to go camping and play outside, and she plays hard, sometimes I have trouble keeping up, LoL, so hopefully I'm doing it right by not letting her become a little prissy girly..girl! I too worry about the boy-loving stage, not going to be happy when I hear how cute a certain boy is, or when she is asking to go on her first date, etc. etc. Every little girl's Father's worst nightmare!!!
    Oh my daughter is already in love with Justin Beiber. Forget about it... She came home with a sign she colored the other day that said Kiss Me Justin!!! and another that said I Love you Justin Beiber!!!! At least it isn't a kid that is around here, just a celebrity crush. At my old fighting school there was a bantam weight champ that also worked at the after school program, and she had a huge crush on him. She is a major little crush-a-holic. I am okay with that so long as she develops morals and has a high enough self esteem not to allow the boys to manipulate her. We put her in karate so that at least we know she will be the one who decides what happens to her body. So the rest is just teaching her self respect and what those good decisions are.

    SOunds like you are doing great on the Dad side of things. I don't know if there is a rignt or a wrong. My daughter is into mostly girly things but also wants to do the weights. I never introduced her to weights and won't let her do anything but hold the 5s while she is squatting really but I see her grab the 3 lbs doing curls and stuff sometimes. Nothing that will hurt her, and I don't discourage it. There is nothing to the belief that lifting weights stunt growth as once believed. It is a hormonal change that hardens the platelets up in the ends of the bones not weight bearing exercise as once believed. As a matter of fact the stress to the bones and plates from a child running and jumping is greater than they generate by any weight they could lift at that age.



    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    That's why God made shotguns, then inspired the saw, to shave that shotgun barrel with. It's all in His plan.
    I love it!
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    "In the name of the Father... the Son, & the Holy Spirt.... AMEN!"
    Yeah someone will be getting the last rights done.

    I already have my speech for the boy she dates planned. It is very short and to the point. "Son I feel it is important that you know I have absolutely no problem going to prison to protect my daughter. Do we understand each other and exactly what that means for you?"
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  27. Kleen thats pretty impressive for your boy to DL'n that much!!! How old is he?


    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I already have my speech for the boy she dates planned. It is very short and to the point. "Son I feel it is important that you know I have absolutely no problem going to prison to protect my daughter. Do we understand each other and exactly what that means for you?"
    ^^^^^ Hahaha that's awesome!!!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I already have my speech for the boy she dates planned. It is very short and to the point. "Son I feel it is important that you know I have absolutely no problem going to prison to protect my daughter. Do we understand each other and exactly what that means for you?"
    I absolutely LOVE it.... That is some good stuff there, I'm going to have to program that into my memory bank and use that one!!!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
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    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Kleen thats pretty impressive for your boy to DL'n that much!!! How old is he?




    ^^^^^ Hahaha that's awesome!!!
    He is 17, he is that small because he has a Growth Hormone disorder. I told him with lifts like that he needed to approach his coach and see if he could get in on training for a powerlifting deal. At his weight with natural strength he may be able to get on a team or something do some competitions.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I absolutely LOVE it.... That is some good stuff there, I'm going to have to program that into my memory bank and use that one!!!
    Absolutely. I was also thinking of putting a sign over the front door that read. "Guns don't kill people, PROTECTIVE FATHERS DO!!!"
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  30. oh yeah, daughters are a lot of fun.......


    very happy i survived their adolescence.
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