KLEEN - Takes the Bull by the horns! Taurus Nutrition's w/ WYKED & Beta TNP

[ScottyDoc]

I only get on to check in on my man and my brother. I was adding in my weights and stuff, but it seems that is under maintenance.
I am very proud of both of them. I didnt realize how hard working out really is, until, i started having awesome results and sore muscles. Then issues on buying new clothes in the juniors section, because women's clothes are too big. lol. That's an awesome feeling. lol

Good for you Mrs. Kleen (Juniors )! Glad to make your acquaintance, hope to hear from you more on the forum. It appears the entire family "Kleens" house in the gym!

[MrKleen73]

Good for you Mrs. Kleen (Juniors )! Glad to make your acquaintance, hope to hear from you more on the forum. It appears the entire family "Kleens" house in the gym!

You aren't kidding there. Well those of us who go. My son is 5'2" and 105 and can dead lift 245 having NEVER done it before. Just walked up in the garage, asked me how to do it with 135 on the bar and just started adding weight, he didn't stop until I made him at 245. It still went up pretty easily but I told him to much for a first time out. So naturally without ever doing it he is dead lifting about 2.4 times his body weight.

The gorgeous wife can dead lift 140 for 5 reps and squat 145 for 5 reps. I think her max bench was 90x5 if I remember. Not bad at 118-122 which is where she normally hangs out.

My other son has just recently told me he is interested in working out so I am going to try to get him started on a program of some sort too.

My 7 year old daughter got excited about the fact we let her hold some 3 lb and then 5 lb hand weights when doing squats as punishment since she was up to like 200 body weight squats. She was like Oh now I can have muscles like you and Mommy! She did 50 squats holding the 5 lb dbs in one shot. Didn't even complain of being sore the next day... She has my genetics too, same structure, legs are tight and tone, already has a diamond to her calves. You can see a line where he shoulders meet her triceps, and where her biceps slope down into her elbow. Of course to my horror she has my bubble butt too. So now I have to fight off even more boys. Gonna have a blonde haired blue eyed Kardashian on my hands... OH NO!

[ScottyDoc]

My 7 year old daughter got excited about the fact we let her hold some 3 lb and then 5 lb hand weights when doing squats as punishment since she was up to like 200 body weight squats. She was like Oh now I can have muscles like you and Mommy! She did 50 squats holding the 5 lb dbs in one shot. Didn't even complain of being sore the next day... She has my genetics too, same structure, legs are tight and tone, already has a diamond to her calves. You can see a line where he shoulders meet her triceps, and where her biceps slope down into her elbow. Of course to my horror she has my bubble butt too. So now I have to fight off even more boys. Gonna have a blonde haired blue eyed Kardashian on my hands... OH NO!

I have a beautiful little 7yr old daughter as well, so I am right there with you! She looks more like her mom, my ex-wife, thank God, she is beautiful! Not really pushing her in the weights arena, I will if she shows interest, but I'm just happy she likes to play soccer and throw the football around and participate in sports! She is definitely rough and tumbly, loves to go camping and play outside, and she plays hard, sometimes I have trouble keeping up, LoL, so hopefully I'm doing it right by not letting her become a little prissy girly..girl! I too worry about the boy-loving stage, not going to be happy when I hear how cute a certain boy is, or when she is asking to go on her first date, etc. etc. Every little girl's Father's worst nightmare!!!

[VolcomX311]

Of course to my horror she has my bubble butt too. So now I have to fight off even more boys. Gonna have a blonde haired blue eyed Kardashian on my hands... OH NO!

That's why God made shotguns, then inspired the saw, to shave that shotgun barrel with. It's all in His plan.

[ScottyDoc]

That's why God made shotguns, then inspired the saw, to shave that shotgun barrel with. It's all in His plan.

"In the name of the Father... the Son, & the Holy Spirt.... AMEN!"

[MrKleen73]

I have a beautiful little 7yr old daughter as well, so I am right there with you! She looks more like her mom, my ex-wife, thank God, she is beautiful! Not really pushing her in the weights arena, I will if she shows interest, but I'm just happy she likes to play soccer and throw the football around and participate in sports! She is definitely rough and tumbly, loves to go camping and play outside, and she plays hard, sometimes I have trouble keeping up, LoL, so hopefully I'm doing it right by not letting her become a little prissy girly..girl! I too worry about the boy-loving stage, not going to be happy when I hear how cute a certain boy is, or when she is asking to go on her first date, etc. etc. Every little girl's Father's worst nightmare!!!

Oh my daughter is already in love with Justin Beiber. Forget about it... She came home with a sign she colored the other day that said Kiss Me Justin!!! and another that said I Love you Justin Beiber!!!! At least it isn't a kid that is around here, just a celebrity crush. At my old fighting school there was a bantam weight champ that also worked at the after school program, and she had a huge crush on him. She is a major little crush-a-holic. I am okay with that so long as she develops morals and has a high enough self esteem not to allow the boys to manipulate her. We put her in karate so that at least we know she will be the one who decides what happens to her body. So the rest is just teaching her self respect and what those good decisions are.

SOunds like you are doing great on the Dad side of things. I don't know if there is a rignt or a wrong. My daughter is into mostly girly things but also wants to do the weights. I never introduced her to weights and won't let her do anything but hold the 5s while she is squatting really but I see her grab the 3 lbs doing curls and stuff sometimes. Nothing that will hurt her, and I don't discourage it. There is nothing to the belief that lifting weights stunt growth as once believed. It is a hormonal change that hardens the platelets up in the ends of the bones not weight bearing exercise as once believed. As a matter of fact the stress to the bones and plates from a child running and jumping is greater than they generate by any weight they could lift at that age.

That's why God made shotguns, then inspired the saw, to shave that shotgun barrel with. It's all in His plan.

I love it!

"In the name of the Father... the Son, & the Holy Spirt.... AMEN!"

Yeah someone will be getting the last rights done.

I already have my speech for the boy she dates planned. It is very short and to the point. "Son I feel it is important that you know I have absolutely no problem going to prison to protect my daughter. Do we understand each other and exactly what that means for you?"

[BarbellBeast]

Kleen thats pretty impressive for your boy to DL'n that much!!! How old is he?

I already have my speech for the boy she dates planned. It is very short and to the point. "Son I feel it is important that you know I have absolutely no problem going to prison to protect my daughter. Do we understand each other and exactly what that means for you?"

^^^^^ Hahaha that's awesome!!!

[ScottyDoc]

I already have my speech for the boy she dates planned. It is very short and to the point. "Son I feel it is important that you know I have absolutely no problem going to prison to protect my daughter. Do we understand each other and exactly what that means for you?"

I absolutely LOVE it.... That is some good stuff there, I'm going to have to program that into my memory bank and use that one!!!

[MrKleen73]

Kleen thats pretty impressive for your boy to DL'n that much!!! How old is he?




^^^^^ Hahaha that's awesome!!!

He is 17, he is that small because he has a Growth Hormone disorder. I told him with lifts like that he needed to approach his coach and see if he could get in on training for a powerlifting deal. At his weight with natural strength he may be able to get on a team or something do some competitions.

I absolutely LOVE it.... That is some good stuff there, I'm going to have to program that into my memory bank and use that one!!!

Absolutely. I was also thinking of putting a sign over the front door that read. "Guns don't kill people, PROTECTIVE FATHERS DO!!!"

[thebigt]

oh yeah, daughters are a lot of fun.......


very happy i survived their adolescence.

[AZMIDLYF]

51 with a 7 yr old daughter...lord help me when the teens hit!

[thebigt]

51 with a 7 yr old daughter...lord help me when the teens hit!

i would start the prayers asap, lol.

[Milas]

Boarding school, nuff said.

[KleensQueen]

You aren't kidding there. Well those of us who go. My son is 5'2" and 105 and can dead lift 245 having NEVER done it before. Just walked up in the garage, asked me how to do it with 135 on the bar and just started adding weight, he didn't stop until I made him at 245. It still went up pretty easily but I told him to much for a first time out. So naturally without ever doing it he is dead lifting about 2.4 times his body weight.

The gorgeous wife can dead lift 140 for 5 reps and squat 145 for 5 reps. I think her max bench was 90x5 if I remember. Not bad at 118-122 which is where she normally hangs out.

My other son has just recently told me he is interested in working out so I am going to try to get him started on a program of some sort too.

My 7 year old daughter got excited about the fact we let her hold some 3 lb and then 5 lb hand weights when doing squats as punishment since she was up to like 200 body weight squats. She was like Oh now I can have muscles like you and Mommy! She did 50 squats holding the 5 lb dbs in one shot. Didn't even complain of being sore the next day... She has my genetics too, same structure, legs are tight and tone, already has a diamond to her calves. You can see a line where he shoulders meet her triceps, and where her biceps slope down into her elbow. Of course to my horror she has my bubble butt too. So now I have to fight off even more boys. Gonna have a blonde haired blue eyed Kardashian on my hands... OH NO!

UHM OK HERE:*******:, EITHER I AM HAVING AN ANXIETY ATTACK OR I THINK I AM HAVIN A HEART ATTACK.. I WILL BE DAMNED IF SHE TAKES THAT ROUTE. I I WILL BEAT HER STRAIGHT.. I love the shows, but OH HELL NO. OH MY GOODNESS, IT AIN'T HAPPIN! KLEEN WE WILL BUY A GUN, I WILL ALLOW THIS AT THIS TIME. (i just can't have the permit, jus sayin). This isnt happening. What is wrong with you man, i should just smack you, we have the plan. we will bad boys 2 skit all up over that boy. Oh wow... I just gotta go hug her, my lil toothless wonder. lol. oh where's the tylenol.
and p.s., we will junk punch if a boy breaks her heart., Jus sayin.

[thundergod]

51 with a 7 yr old daughter...lord help me when the teens hit!

46 here (47 next month) with a 23 yr old daughter........it was all good. She has a very high standard of morals.

[RickRock13]

51 with a 7 yr old daughter...lord help me when the teens hit!

I feel ya there. I'm 37 with a 4 year old daughter. I'm sure I will be a nervous wreck when my daughter hits her teens!!

[ScottyDoc]

I feel ya there. I'm 37 with a 4 year old daughter. I'm sure I will be a nervous wreck when my daughter hits her teens!!

I am 37yrs old with a 7yr old daughter and I would not change having my beautiful little girl for anything, but I can tell you this much, she is going to AGE the $hit out of me when she hits her teens! I will never stop worrying about her!

[thebigt]

I am 37yrs old with a 7yr old daughter and I would not change having my beautiful little girl for anything, but I can tell you this much, she is going to AGE the $hit out of me when she hits her teens! I will never stop worrying about her!

this is exactly as it should be......i am very proud of the guys[and gals] on this forum. if all parents were this dedicated and responsible the world would be a much better place.




sorry for the rant, kleen.
back to the log!!!!

[ScottyDoc]

this is exactly as it should be......i am very proud of the guys[and gals] on this forum. if all parents were this dedicated and responsible the world would be a much better place.

Thank you for that... But you are so right, if more people took responsibility for their own actions and for their children's actions instead of pointing the finger in the other direction! I am sure most of you can agree it is getting ridiculous out there, I mean back in my day (I'm 37) the teacher was right, there was no disrespecting my teachers, if I got in trouble in school, I was in twice as much trouble at home! It is the teachers job to teach our children in school, not raise them for us, that needs to be done at home and only supported in the classroom! I mean am I right? I'll step down from my SOAP BOX now, LoL!

[MrKleen73]

Okay, I need to do a 2 week review and it is a little late but nevertheless... So this is just going to have my workout and not too many comments so I can start writing the quick review.

Bench - 135, 155, 185, 185x11 - Up 5 lbs, and up 1 extra reps on second set even with new 5 lb increase, also warmed up with 135 instead of 115.

Chin Grip Pull Down - 90, 120, 150, 155 - 155 5 lb increase was very hard will do it first work set next time.

Military Press - 65, 110, 110x8 5 lb increase on first set felt great but second set I lost 2 reps - Until I make my incremental weights I will stick here and let second set reps go up a little.

EZ Bar Curl - 90x13 +1 rep from last time.

Dips - BW +55

L-Fly - 12.5, 12.5

UHM OK HERE:*******:, EITHER I AM HAVING AN ANXIETY ATTACK OR I THINK I AM HAVIN A HEART ATTACK.. I WILL BE DAMNED IF SHE TAKES THAT ROUTE. I I WILL BEAT HER STRAIGHT.. I love the shows, but OH HELL NO. OH MY GOODNESS, IT AIN'T HAPPIN! KLEEN WE WILL BUY A GUN, I WILL ALLOW THIS AT THIS TIME. (i just can't have the permit, jus sayin). This isnt happening. What is wrong with you man, i should just smack you, we have the plan. we will bad boys 2 skit all up over that boy. Oh wow... I just gotta go hug her, my lil toothless wonder. lol. oh where's the tylenol.
and p.s., we will junk punch if a boy breaks her heart., Jus sayin.

LMAO!!!! See guys I don't have to worry... Momma is on the job!

46 here (47 next month) with a 23 yr old daughter........it was all good. She has a very high standard of morals.

This exactly! I try hard to keep her standards high, and make sure she knows her worth. Tell her not to settle for any one who doesn't treat her as good as she sees me treat Mommy every day. These and the ability to defend herself is going to be the biggest things I can do to

I feel ya there. I'm 37 with a 4 year old daughter. I'm sure I will be a nervous wreck when my daughter hits her teens!!

Or 7

I am 37yrs old with a 7yr old daughter and I would not change having my beautiful little girl for anything, but I can tell you this much, she is going to AGE the $hit out of me when she hits her teens! I will never stop worrying about her!

I know that training is heading down the track in my direction but quit making me stare at it's lights Al!!!

this is exactly as it should be......i am very proud of the guys[and gals] on this forum. if all parents were this dedicated and responsible the world would be a much better place.

We do seem to have an excellent group of guys here. I won't get on about dead beats. I think how I just refrred to them puts my opinion out there enough.

[MrKleen73]

So we are officially into day 18 of this bad boy if my calculations are right. However my first workout once I started it was on a Saturday and so were the pics I took so Saturday was the day I decided to take some pics for the review and to summarize the week. Rather than going on a long winded diatribe that encompasses all of the experience I will just put some factors down. Then post my pics and stats at the bottom.

Aggression / Alpha Male - I found myself a little more aggressive this week. Not much just I have a peeve with people walking and taking up an entire sidewalk or tunnel area. You know the guys I am talking about right? They walk 3-4 across on a side walk and don't want to step over to make room when you walk towards them. Yeah well if the aggression were a tiny bit higher you would hear that I had shoved some heads up some asses. However it is controllable so I only get to think creatively in my head how nice it would be to disembowel these idiots. TOO MUCH??? No really I have noticed these guys agging me more than normal and hoping one of them would decide not to move or say something stupid. LOL Not typical of me to hope someone gives me a reason. Also not so strong that if they did I wouldn't be able to remember I have a family at home that doesn't want to see me in orange jumpsuit for bitch slapping someone.

Appetite - I would say I have noticed some appetite increase it is gradual though not a rush of hunger.

Recomp - This has been SICK!!! My diet is awesome with recomp as well but the recent addition of LBM while leaning out is proof of the progrestin for sure!!!!

Strength - I would not call this a strength compound. I would say that the increase in strength comes from and is directly proportionate to the muscle it is adding. Instead of making the current muscle perform by having greater strength output it just adds muscle and strength increases with the new muscle.

Libido - I have had some fun in the libido area this past week. Was a definite jump however it seems it is erradic for me. I won't be thinking of sex at all for most of the day then be very horny for a while then not at all again. Not like sitting around thinking about it all day. Just major surges. Sexual performance seems up though.

Sides - Although minimal, I do have yellow urine if I slow down on my water at all. Also I noticed my testicles don't seem as full. Not a huge difference but still a difference worth mentioning.

Okay so now on the recomp and what not I am just going to let the stats and picture show the effects instead of trying to describe it all. Now keep in mind that I was 198-199 at the start but did not do a BF reading until or accurate weigh in 4 days after starting.

5-12-11 Between 198 and 199 could not get a good scale reading
5-16-11 199.5 Body Fat 9.5, LBM 180.5 lbs, Fat 19 lbs
5-28-11 200 Body Fat 8.4 LBM 183.2 lbs, Fat 16.8 lbs
Changes in last 12 days - 2.7 increase in LBM and 2.2 lbs of fat lost!

[RickRock13]

You are looking incredible Chris!! You are making some awesome changes man, and that back double bicep pose looks fantastic (no homo). It looks like this progestin has accelerated your gains quite a bit and your fat loss continues.....good stuff bro!!

[Rosie Chee]

Recomp - This has been SICK!!! My diet is awesome with recomp as well but the recent addition of LBM while leaning out is proof of the progrestin for sure!!!!

. . .

Changes in last 12 days - 2.7 increase in LBM and 2.2 lbs of fat lost!

Proof is in the pictures, Chris. Awesome recomp so far, and it's only going to get better! Amazingly detailed log as well, and I am enjoying following (and learning).

~Rosie~

[AZMIDLYF]

You are looking incredible Chris!! You are making some awesome changes man, and that back double bicep pose looks fantastic (no homo). It looks like this progestin has accelerated your gains quite a bit and your fat loss continues.....good stuff bro!!

Ditto, things are really tightening up in a very nice way. This compound in combination with your new diet regimen seems to be a nice synergy!

Back double bicep!!(very homo)

[MrKleen73]

You are looking incredible Chris!! You are making some awesome changes man, and that back double bicep pose looks fantastic (no homo). It looks like this progestin has accelerated your gains quite a bit and your fat loss continues.....good stuff bro!!

Thanks Rick! and yeah this has been great so far.

Proof is in the pictures, Chris. Awesome recomp so far, and it's only going to get better! Amazingly detailed log as well, and I am enjoying following (and learning).

~Rosie~

Thanks Rosie! I try to keep my logs detailed and as much an open forum as possible at the same time so it can go in a lot of directions. With everyones input I hope we all learn. I know I do.

The progestin has treated me well so far. Combined with the intermittent fasting it really is doing an amazing job adding lbm. I knew I was getting tighter but was really impressed with the differences.

Ditto, things are really tightening up in a very nice way. This compound in combination with your new diet regimen seems to be a nice synergy!

Back double bicep!!(very homo)

LMAO! Thanks AZ! For sure the combination of the two has really set the bar regarding a recomp strategy. However gaining muscle at 1.5 a week and dropping 1.1 lb of fat a week in 2 more weeks I could be ridiculous if I stay my course. Crazy thing is remember I didn't do as much cardio this past 2 weeks. More just fasted a few extra hours and only ate 2 large meals that day.

I think a rear double biceps can tell you a lot about your physique and I was happy with where mine is. It is better than I expected, I can see the Christmas Tree coming in a little which I was happy about. That and I placed the tattoo exactly where I wanted for it to line up and compliment the muscle. I can't wait to be shredded and see how that thing looks.

[thebigt]

i see what you mean about the tat in pic #1.


thanks, chris for really going the extra mile for this log, great job!!!!

[MrKleen73]

i see what you mean about the tat in pic #1.


thanks, chris for really going the extra mile for this log, great job!!!!

No problem at all. I have enjoyed the results for sure. I can't wait to see where it takes me either.

[TheLastRonin]

"I found myself a little more aggressive this week. Not much just I have a peeve with people walking and taking up an entire sidewalk or tunnel area. You know the guys I am talking about right? They walk 3-4 across on a side walk and don't want to step over to make room when you walk towards them. "

LOL this and people that walk or bike side by side on a road or highway so that they are on the road, bugs me on a normal daily basis haha.

[DreamWeaver]

So we are officially into day 18 of this bad boy if my calculations are right. However my first workout once I started it was on a Saturday and so were the pics I took so Saturday was the day I decided to take some pics for the review and to summarize the week. Rather than going on a long winded diatribe that encompasses all of the experience I will just put some factors down. Then post my pics and stats at the bottom.

Aggression / Alpha Male - I found myself a little more aggressive this week. Not much just I have a peeve with people walking and taking up an entire sidewalk or tunnel area. You know the guys I am talking about right? They walk 3-4 across on a side walk and don't want to step over to make room when you walk towards them. Yeah well if the aggression were a tiny bit higher you would hear that I had shoved some heads up some asses. However it is controllable so I only get to think creatively in my head how nice it would be to disembowel these idiots. TOO MUCH??? No really I have noticed these guys agging me more than normal and hoping one of them would decide not to move or say something stupid. LOL Not typical of me to hope someone gives me a reason. Also not so strong that if they did I wouldn't be able to remember I have a family at home that doesn't want to see me in orange jumpsuit for bitch slapping someone.

Appetite - I would say I have noticed some appetite increase it is gradual though not a rush of hunger.

Recomp - This has been SICK!!! My diet is awesome with recomp as well but the recent addition of LBM while leaning out is proof of the progrestin for sure!!!!

Strength - I would not call this a strength compound. I would say that the increase in strength comes from and is directly proportionate to the muscle it is adding. Instead of making the current muscle perform by having greater strength output it just adds muscle and strength increases with the new muscle.

Libido - I have had some fun in the libido area this past week. Was a definite jump however it seems it is erradic for me. I won't be thinking of sex at all for most of the day then be very horny for a while then not at all again. Not like sitting around thinking about it all day. Just major surges. Sexual performance seems up though.

Sides - Although minimal, I do have yellow urine if I slow down on my water at all. Also I noticed my testicles don't seem as full. Not a huge difference but still a difference worth mentioning.

Okay so now on the recomp and what not I am just going to let the stats and picture show the effects instead of trying to describe it all. Now keep in mind that I was 198-199 at the start but did not do a BF reading until or accurate weigh in 4 days after starting.

5-12-11 Between 198 and 199 could not get a good scale reading
5-16-11 199.5 Body Fat 9.5, LBM 180.5 lbs, Fat 19 lbs
5-28-11 200 Body Fat 8.4 LBM 183.2 lbs, Fat 16.8 lbs
Changes in last 12 days - 2.7 increase in LBM and 2.2 lbs of fat lost!

Yah it looks like you lost about a percentage or so body fat so those readings look right on the money... man we're going to be lean this summer !!

[thundergod]

Yeah, rear double bicep pic for the win. And I was gonna comment on the placement of the tattoo as well. Outlines the traps perfectly.
That pose doesn't hide any weaknesses. Your lower back is thick and defined.

Good work, home-fries!!!

[punthra]

Nice work Kleen...And to sound repetitive, the back double bicep is looking sick!

[TheLastRonin]

What is that tatty of anyway lol my eyes are not as good as these others. To me it looks like a swastika with a roofline above it? The roofline does line out the traps though. These guys kind of missed the mark a little bit

[MrKleen73]

Yah it looks like you lost about a percentage or so body fat so those readings look right on the money... man we're going to be lean this summer !!

Big time!

Yeah, rear double bicep pic for the win. And I was gonna comment on the placement of the tattoo as well. Outlines the traps perfectly.
That pose doesn't hide any weaknesses. Your lower back is thick and defined.

Good work, home-fries!!!

Thank you Brother Thunder!

Nice work Kleen...And to sound repetitive, the back double bicep is looking sick!

Thanks Jason, looking to improve upon that by the end of this.

What is that tatty of anyway lol my eyes are not as good as these others. To me it looks like a swastika with a roofline above it? The roofline does line out the traps though. These guys kind of missed the mark a little bit

Haha no definitely not a swastika. It is kanji for Destiny. Got if with the wife for our 8th anniversary. Destined to be together and all. That and we had him make it look like it was carved out so it could have a dual meaning. That you have to carve out your own destiny.

[RickRock13]

What is that tatty of anyway lol my eyes are not as good as these others. To me it looks like a swastika with a roofline above it? The roofline does line out the traps though. These guys kind of missed the mark a little bit

LMAO....those are great!!

[TheLastRonin]

Haha no definitely not a swastika. It is kanji for Destiny. Got if with the wife for our 8th anniversary. Destined to be together and all. That and we had him make it look like it was carved out so it could have a dual meaning. That you have to carve out your own destiny.

Ah kewl I compared it to one with a white background. Your just too tanned for me to see it on you properly lol. I like that idea though.

[celc5]

My secretary just got all sweaty lookin at your pics Kleen ...and she wants to know where you are from

[oufinny]

Awesome changes Chris, I am starting to see some myself but am not near where you are at the moment. Keep up the good work!

[thundergod]

My secretary just got all sweaty lookin at your pics Kleen ...and she wants to know where you are from

I'd be willing to bet that KleensQueen will want to know where your secretary is from now.

[AZMIDLYF]

I'd be willing to bet that KleensQueen will want to know where your secretary is from now.

Time for a Junk Punch! Lol

[carpee]

Time for a Junk Punch! Lol